I Want to Thank Hillary

I want to take a moment and thank Hillary Clinton.  I want to thank her for making Obama a stronger candidate through this primary process.  She is a true fighter, and one helluva Democrat...I feel sorry for the GOP when she and Bill set their full sights on them.

I also want to thank Hillary for coming to the defense of Obama regarding Bush's comments in Israel.

"President Bush's comparison of any Democrat to Nazi appeasers is both offensive and outrageous on the face of it, especially in light of his failures in foreign policy," she told reporters in Rapid City, South Dakota Thursday. "This is the kind of statement that has no place in any presidential address and certainly to use an important moment like the 60th anniversary celebration of Israel to make a political point seems terribly misplaced; unfortunately, this is what we've come to expect from President Bush.

"There is a very clear difference between Democrats and Republicans on foreign policy and that difference will be evident once we take back the White House."

She very easily could have piled on but she, a true Democrat, and defended one of our own.  And I thank her for that.

I know, personally, I have been hard on Hillary and unrightfully so.  I have never walked in the shoes of a woman and I have no right to question someone who fights for the average American, the poor, children, and is a stalwart to women every where.  For all of my wise ass cracks, I sincerely apologize.

I respect you Hillary Clinton, I respect your right to continue in this race, I respect how you've brought so many more people into our party and I respect how hard you have worked to make our country the best it can be.

Thank you!



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Re: I Want to Thank Hillary (2.00 / 8)

I should have never compared you to a Republican, you are more Democrat than I could ever hope to be...


Toot, thank you for raising such a terrific person...You done good and we will have you in our hearts.
by hootie4170 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:20:53 PM EST

if its sincere... (2.00 / 2)

this is a nice diary.

oh - and go pens!


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that word I reach for my feather Boa!" -- Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Fri May 16, 2008 at 09:18:19 PM EST
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Re: if its sincere... (none / 0)

3-1, we will win the series at home...Thanks:)


Toot, thank you for raising such a terrific person...You done good and we will have you in our hearts.
by hootie4170 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 11:34:39 PM EST
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Re: I Want to Thank Hillary (1.66 / 3)

HRC supporter throwing this back in your face in

5...4...3...2...1...



Lost rate and rec for issuing a '1' to a trollish comment. The troll, not so much.

by map on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:23:20 PM EST

Re: I Want to Thank Hillary (2.00 / 4)

Hey some can do what they want...Everything I said is true..


Toot, thank you for raising such a terrific person...You done good and we will have you in our hearts.
by hootie4170 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:25:48 PM EST
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Re: I Want to Thank Hillary (2.00 / 2)

Definately.  Great diary and I rec'd it.  I was trying to short circuit the inevitable call from some that this sort of effort is phony.



Lost rate and rec for issuing a '1' to a trollish comment. The troll, not so much.

by map on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:30:41 PM EST
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I hope they don't... (none / 0)

...I mean there's a diary on the rec list complaining that there isn't enough clinton respect from obama supporters.  Either they will see this and appreciate it, or dissmiss it as not fitting in with their views of what hateful bastards Obama fans are.

Sadly, I fear the latter is about as likely as the former.


by DawnG on Fri May 16, 2008 at 08:00:58 PM EST
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Re: I Want to Thank Hillary (2.00 / 3)

Excellent unity diary.

Democrats are coming together.

"When this nomination battle is over, and it will be over soon, brothers and sisters, we must come together as Democrats, and in the fall stand up for what matters for the future of America,"

John Edwards


by TomP on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:37:41 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Dems are NOT coming together... (1.00 / 2)

unless your mind is clouded by Kool-Aide!

We're separating more than ever this past week.  Sorry, but that's a fact.


by CoyoteCreek on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:18:33 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Dems are NOT coming together... (none / 0)

Get off my diary..you are not welcome here..


Toot, thank you for raising such a terrific person...You done good and we will have you in our hearts.
by hootie4170 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:21:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]

You're all a bit hysterical aren't you? (none / 0)

A little touchy about the truth?


by CoyoteCreek on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:26:11 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: You're all a bit hysterical aren't you? (none / 0)

You're not very good about hiding your true colors...People know more than you think concerning yourself..


Toot, thank you for raising such a terrific person...You done good and we will have you in our hearts.
by hootie4170 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:30:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Oh, do tell! (none / 0)


by CoyoteCreek on Fri May 16, 2008 at 08:20:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Oh, do tell! (none / 0)

Maybe a new handle would do the trick...


Toot, thank you for raising such a terrific person...You done good and we will have you in our hearts.
by hootie4170 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 08:34:01 PM EST
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Ah - you think I'm someone else. (none / 0)

Only CoyoteCreek.  Nobody else, so you're barking up the wrong tree there.

So, what else can you tell about me?


by CoyoteCreek on Fri May 16, 2008 at 08:39:52 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Ah - you think I'm someone else. (none / 0)

my bad then


Toot, thank you for raising such a terrific person...You done good and we will have you in our hearts.
by hootie4170 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 08:46:18 PM EST
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Re: Dems are NOT coming together... (none / 0)

Sorry, buddy, but you're wrong. I know it pisses you off, but we're going to kumbaya.

Besides, I'd think even if you still believe Hillary can get the nom, I'd think unity is in your best interest. Seems like you're more concerned about winning the nomination; we'll all just fall in line like good little boys and girls, right?


Serious question- Is This Snark?
by ragekage on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:31:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]

you talk like that's just how it is... (2.00 / 1)

...and you have no personal choice in the outcome.

The degree of unity we achieve as a whole will be no more and no less than what we as democrats WISH to achieve.  Those who wish to be divided will stay divided for no other reason than THEY WISH IT.

Some people (on both sides) don't WANT unity.  They want some dark and arbitrary "other" to hate.  But that doesn't mean any of us have to feed into that mindset.

It's your choice.  United we stand.  Divided we all fall.  


by DawnG on Fri May 16, 2008 at 08:04:18 PM EST
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Re: you talk like that's just how it is... (2.00 / 1)

I choose United...Death to the GOP


Toot, thank you for raising such a terrific person...You done good and we will have you in our hearts.
by hootie4170 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 08:05:37 PM EST
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eh... (2.00 / 1)

...I don't want to kill them.  I just want to bring about our own vision of their 100 year minority.

There is still a place in this country for republicans.  But they have got a LOT of cancer to cut out of their party before they can be anything close to "decent".


by DawnG on Fri May 16, 2008 at 08:10:02 PM EST
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Re: eh... (2.00 / 1)

Sorry...figure of speech...


Toot, thank you for raising such a terrific person...You done good and we will have you in our hearts.
by hootie4170 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 08:11:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Then we fall. (1.00 / 1)


by CoyoteCreek on Fri May 16, 2008 at 08:40:56 PM EST
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Re: Then we fall. (none / 0)

Whatever.  

You've already stated many times that neither you or your husband would ever, under any circumstances, vote for Obama.  

The nomination will be settled in a few weeks.  That's about how much time you have left to troll around.



Lost rate and rec for issuing a '1' to a trollish comment. The troll, not so much.

by map on Fri May 16, 2008 at 08:57:28 PM EST
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I'm not trolling. I'm supporting HRC. (none / 0)


by CoyoteCreek on Fri May 16, 2008 at 09:02:53 PM EST
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Re: I'm not trolling. I'm supporting HRC. (none / 0)

Hillary would find both your tone and your message disgusting.



Lost rate and rec for issuing a '1' to a trollish comment. The troll, not so much.

by map on Fri May 16, 2008 at 09:08:23 PM EST
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You are not supporting anyone... (none / 0)

...but yourself.

Even a 2 year old can throw a temper tantrum when it doesn't get their way.

Doesn't make you any more noble just because you're older.

Politics have REAL LIFE consequences for MILLIONS of people.  But oh no.  You can't get it your way and you're just gonna take your ball and go home.

It's a free country.  You're perfectly entitled to to so.  But don't expect anyone to respect you for it.  You're not taking a principled stand.  You're not defending a noble position.  You're being a spoil sport.


by DawnG on Fri May 16, 2008 at 10:45:03 PM EST
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You people won't listen, will you? (none / 0)

I believe that I am taking the most principled stand possible - I am reacting first as an American and second as a Democrat.

I truly do not understand - AND, BY THE WAY, have never had a sound dicussion with any member of the Obamanation as to how/why this person deserves the nomination - let alone the presidency.  All I am ever told is that I am stupid and a fool and that "the blood of thousands will be on my hands".

I.  Beg.  Your.  Pardon!

I am under no illusion as to what McCain means.  It breaks my heart to see what you are pushing this country into.  And I cannot, and will not, be a part of it.

You treat us as if we're idiots.  I can assure you that I am not.  And I will NOT vote for Obama.

If there's anyone to blame for that, it is Mr. Obama's ego and his desire to place himself before country.

Shame on him.


by CoyoteCreek on Fri May 16, 2008 at 11:21:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]

THAT is exactly the problem. (none / 0)

You THINK you are taking a pricipled stand, but you're not.

I don't CARE who wins the nomination.  Obama and Clinton are equally good as far as I'm concerned. That's why it's such a close race.  If one were OBVIOUSLY a bad choice while the other was OBVIOUSLY the right choice then this primary would have been over with months ago.  They are both GOOD choices and we would be fortunate to have either in the white house.

But the biggest, most pressing principal right now is that McCain can NOT be allowed to win the election.  He just can't!  I am not saying that the "blood of thousands..." will be all because of YOU.  I am saying that you laboring under the false assumption that Obama is no better than McCain and that is flat out Absurd!

And you labor under the false assumption that it's Obama's ego at the heart of your objection and that is shallow and offensive!  

This election is not about what OBAMA deservers or what OBAMA wants.  This is about what WE need!  We need a president that will listen to US for a change!  We need a president that holds OUR values!  What we need a democrat in the white house.  It is that simple.  You accuse Obama of putting his own desire ahead of his country but you are willing to do EXACTLY THAT YOURSELF all because you can't have your chosen candidate.  That is NOT PRINCIPLED.  That is NOT NOBLE.  That is not RIGHT.

Again, I say, you are absolutly entitled to vote as you please.  But you trying to convince US that you're doing it for some principaled reason is ridiculous and sounds more like you're trying to convince yourself.


by DawnG on Fri May 16, 2008 at 11:52:32 PM EST
[ Parent ]

You are one strange individual! (none / 0)

"You THINK you are taking a pricipled (sic) stand, but you're not."

I beg your pardon?  How did I ever exist before you came along.

Go Cheney yourself.


by CoyoteCreek on Sat May 17, 2008 at 12:13:40 AM EST
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And that's perfectly okay with you? (none / 0)

Because if we fall, the whole country falls with us.

Is that okay with you?  And if so, what the hell is the matter with you?


by DawnG on Fri May 16, 2008 at 10:41:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Sigh. you're all starting to sound... (none / 0)

h y s t e r i c a l.

I thought your guy had it all wrapped up?  Doesn't sound like you really believe that.


by CoyoteCreek on Fri May 16, 2008 at 11:37:41 PM EST
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I don't have a "Guy" you twit! (none / 0)

I have a party. And I have a country.  And that is what matters to ME.

I don't care who wins the nomination as long as a democrat is in the white house.

And if I sound hysterical it's because I know what will happen if WE as a country (meaning you as well) ALLOW McCain to win this election.  We can not afford 4 more years.  our very country is at stake and you stand there so blase.  

But you're too busy being a spoied brat to listen.  You'd rather just roll your eyes and dismiss people when they say things YOU don't like.

And you have the unmitigated GALL to claim it's out of "principal".


by DawnG on Sat May 17, 2008 at 12:03:18 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Learn to spell, please. (none / 0)

Principal.

Principle.

Dooh!


by CoyoteCreek on Sat May 17, 2008 at 12:15:13 AM EST
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Re: I Want to Thank Hillary (2.00 / 3)

M'kay...

Sorry to let you down, but, uh, nope.  I represent Clintonistas With Class.


No politician ever lost an election because he underestimated the intelligence of the American public. - PT Barnum, paraphrased...
by jarhead5536 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:27:28 PM EST
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Re: I Want to Thank Hillary (2.00 / 2)

You definately do.  My comment wasn't aimed at you, and while it might take longer than 5 seconds, my point stands.  I've read enough times here when we're trying to be gracious that we are just being phony, that we can shove it.  Thankfully that sort of talk only comes from a tiny (but vocal) fringe.



Lost rate and rec for issuing a '1' to a trollish comment. The troll, not so much.

by map on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:29:53 PM EST
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Problem is (none / 0)

that many times it DOES come across as phony.

It is always easy to put on a fake show of humility when you are leading, think you have it won or have won.

I am NOT saying that about THIS diary.

Your comment at the top should NOT have been givin kudos, it only adds to the fire.


Washington Woman

Progressive Blue

by kevin22262 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 08:06:24 PM EST
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Re: Problem is (2.00 / 1)

agreed


Toot, thank you for raising such a terrific person...You done good and we will have you in our hearts.
by hootie4170 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 08:07:21 PM EST
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Re: Problem is (2.00 / 1)

fair enough



Lost rate and rec for issuing a '1' to a trollish comment. The troll, not so much.

by map on Fri May 16, 2008 at 08:19:50 PM EST
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here is (none / 0)

a diary exposing some of the fake humility and the ever present anger towards Hillary and her supporters.

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/16/1924 17/873

This diary and the one I linked to above, should both be on the rec list!


Washington Woman

Progressive Blue

by kevin22262 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 08:12:39 PM EST
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Re: I Want to Thank Hillary (2.00 / 2)

Entirely predictable.  Must be one of the 400 paid bloggers.  ;)


I'm as strong as a bull moose, and you can use me to the limit. - Teddy Roosevelt
by fogiv on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:53:53 PM EST
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Re: I Want to Thank Hillary (2.00 / 3)

Excellent post.  Her candidacy has made Obama a much better candidate during the primary, and will make him a much better candidate in the general.  In the last 24 hours she's helped the Democratic Party enormously by getting behind Obama, and by aiming both barrels at Bush today.


by Pat Flatley on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:24:11 PM EST

Re: I Want to Thank Hillary (2.00 / 6)

And I thank you for your diary.  In retrospect, I do not hold it against Obama that he has defeated her.  She was unprepared for someone like him, indeed we all were.  There is clearly no match for his movement and message in Democratic politics today.  He has secured the nomination fair and square, but he is going to need lots of help to defeat McCain in November.  I'm still pretty damned disappointed, but I will be getting on board eventually...


No politician ever lost an election because he underestimated the intelligence of the American public. - PT Barnum, paraphrased...
by jarhead5536 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:24:48 PM EST

Re: I Want to Thank Hillary (2.00 / 4)

It's going to be so much fun to pound on McSame.  The elderly fool will be our pinata.


by Pat Flatley on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:27:51 PM EST
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Re: I Want to Thank Hillary (2.00 / 3)

If the rumors about his verbal abuse of his trophy wife are true, I'll be happy to take him down on her behalf...


No politician ever lost an election because he underestimated the intelligence of the American public. - PT Barnum, paraphrased...
by jarhead5536 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:31:49 PM EST
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Re: I Want to Thank Hillary (none / 0)

Hey, Marine- wanna help me "secure" the general election? In the Marine sense, of course.


Serious question- Is This Snark?
by ragekage on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:32:54 PM EST
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Re: I Want to Thank Hillary (2.00 / 2)

LIke an evil piñata filled with bitter candy.


by Jeter on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:32:15 PM EST
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Re: I Want to Thank Hillary (none / 0)

The word defeat is just not a necessary word to use, even after a nominee is chosen, IMHO.


by Jeter on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:29:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Hillary still has a BIG future (2.00 / 1)

► Secretary of Defense

► Supreme Court Justice


"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!
by Al Rodgers on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:29:56 PM EST
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Re: Hillary still has a BIG future (2.00 / 1)

I'm legitmiatly curious about what you think about her future in the Supreme Court as a possiblity? I haven't heard it anywhere but from you, but I happen to have thought about it and it wouldn't be a bad idea.


Hillary supporter for Barack Obama in 2008
by zcflint05 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:32:22 PM EST
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Re: Hillary still has a BIG future (2.00 / 1)

I don't know that the court would be that great a fit.  Her legal experience is as a corporate attorney specializing in contracts, regulatory compliance and white collar criminal defense.

If not the Oval Office, the Senate should be her permanent home.  She is the definition of a policy wonk, and is at her best up to her elbows in the minutae (sp?) of crafting legislation.  Her legendary arm-twisting gifts are suited to the Senate as well...


No politician ever lost an election because he underestimated the intelligence of the American public. - PT Barnum, paraphrased...
by jarhead5536 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:38:41 PM EST
[ Parent ]

From what I've seen in this campaign (none / 0)

she'll make a great Senate Majority Leader, we need someone with some backbone there and she does have it.

Also, (except for one horrible policy) she has been a wonderful liberal this campaign.


Student Guy=JoeMentum. No really Student Guy=JoeMentum, after all JoeMentum was an embarrassment so is Student Guy. This sig is FAIL!!
by Student Guy on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:41:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]

You just described ... (none / 0)

You just described former California Governor, and 1948 Vice Presidential candidate, Earl Warren.


"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!
by Al Rodgers on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:42:17 PM EST
[ Parent ]

she's as sharp as it gets (2.00 / 1)

1. she's as sharp as it gets

2. she's a Yale trained attorney (1 of 8 in a class of 150, and I friends with one of the other 7 women).

3. it would be a HIGH honor - with GREAT distinction.

4. much like LBJ becoming president, the position would free her from ephemeral constraints to be as liberal as she wants.

4. I want to see her KICK Scalia and Roberts in azz, day and nite, for the next 25 yrs.


"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!
by Al Rodgers on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:38:46 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Hillary still has a BIG future (2.00 / 1)

I too think its a great idea, but still I'd love to see her continue in the Senate as Majority Leader.


I'm as strong as a bull moose, and you can use me to the limit. - Teddy Roosevelt
by fogiv on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:58:16 PM EST
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Re: Hillary still has a BIG future (2.00 / 1)

Defense Secretary?  I hadn't thought of that.  What a concept.  And to think how far she's come from the aging flower child that hated the military, according to her early detractors...


No politician ever lost an election because he underestimated the intelligence of the American public. - PT Barnum, paraphrased...
by jarhead5536 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:34:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]

that's a myth/slur - she never hated the military (2.00 / 1)

I've read her valedictorian speech to Wellesley in 1969, there wasn't anything radical or negative in it.


"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!
by Al Rodgers on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:40:33 PM EST
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Re: I Want to Thank Hillary (2.00 / 1)

Brilliant Diary. Highly recommended.


by Jeter on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:25:54 PM EST

I'll tell you one thing. (2.00 / 3)

She made him a better debater. I think he'll wipe the floor with McCain, but the Obama in the first of the 90,000 debates was terrible.


Your old role is rapidly aging. Please get out of the new one if you can't lend a hand, for the times they are a changing.
by Travis Stark on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:25:56 PM EST

Re: I'll tell you one thing. (2.00 / 2)

She does kick ass in debates...No doubt..


Toot, thank you for raising such a terrific person...You done good and we will have you in our hearts.
by hootie4170 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:28:24 PM EST
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Re: I'll tell you one thing. (2.00 / 2)

Very true.  He was atrocious during the Summer of 2007, and HRC wiped the floor with him.


by Pat Flatley on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:28:26 PM EST
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Re: I'll tell you one thing. (none / 0)

he is still atrocious.

wasn't the abc debate the last one ?

That was actually was than when he started off.


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:29:50 PM EST
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Re: I'll tell you one thing. (none / 0)

actually worse


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:30:19 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: I'll tell you one thing. (2.00 / 1)

Name me any politician on either side who debates better than Hill.

I don't seem to see any. He was up against the best. Kinda hard to
hold your own with a policy wonk like Hillary.


Yawn.
by spacemanspiff on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:32:46 PM EST
[ Parent ]

well... (none / 0)

Howard Dean has always been the best.


"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!
by Al Rodgers on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:06:51 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: I'll tell you one thing. (2.00 / 1)

Yeah he looked foolish at times against HRC, but what do you expect going against the best.

I think he could speak pig latin and still crush McBush though:)


Toot, thank you for raising such a terrific person...You done good and we will have you in our hearts.
by hootie4170 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:33:09 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: I'll tell you one thing. (2.00 / 2)

She is going to be on the ticket , thats my belief.


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:35:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: I'll tell you one thing. (none / 0)

Respectfully disagree.  Honestly, I doubt she'd want it.  Her talents are better utilized elsewhere, and she knows it.


I'm as strong as a bull moose, and you can use me to the limit. - Teddy Roosevelt
by fogiv on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:00:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: I'll tell you one thing. (none / 0)

If she were on the ticket as VP, would that sway you to vote Dem for sure?


"As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where-where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border."
by fugazi on Fri May 16, 2008 at 08:11:27 PM EST
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Re: I'll tell you one thing. (none / 0)

yep.

If she was on the ticket , I would definitely be agonizing less over obama's foreign policy positions.


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Fri May 16, 2008 at 08:19:21 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: I'll tell you one thing. (none / 0)

Reagan was dreadful in debates, and it didn't seem to hurt him.  He had the whole soaring rhetoric/grand themes thing going on, same as Obama.  Only when I listen to Obama talk, I don't say to myself "what crap."


No politician ever lost an election because he underestimated the intelligence of the American public. - PT Barnum, paraphrased...
by jarhead5536 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:56:31 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: I'll tell you one thing. (2.00 / 1)

She's made him throw a punch, which I was terribly afraid he wouldn't be able to do (new kind of politics and all).  And he didn't look like a jerk while doing it, which actually says a lot about him...


No politician ever lost an election because he underestimated the intelligence of the American public. - PT Barnum, paraphrased...
by jarhead5536 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:29:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]

It's unwise to throw a punch within the party (2.00 / 1)

it creates a backlash

A general election is a different kettle of fish.


"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!
by Al Rodgers on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:33:21 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: I Want to Thank Hillary (none / 0)

hi honey


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:28:27 PM EST

Re: I Want to Thank Hillary (2.00 / 2)

Hey sweets (doh, hope I don't get in trouble for that)

Man I was completely wrong about HRC, she is the real deal...I just had to get some of this off of my chest and come clean.

I feel better though


Toot, thank you for raising such a terrific person...You done good and we will have you in our hearts.
by hootie4170 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:30:46 PM EST
[ Parent ]

She hit Bush hard again today... (2.00 / 1)

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/

From NBC/NJ's Mike Memoli
JUNCTION CITY, Ore. -- Hillary Clinton ratcheted up her criticism of President Bush today, mocking him for simply "begging" Saudi Arabia to increase oil supplies rather than having a real plan to deal with the energy crisis.

"I don't think it is a good energy policy to depend upon the kindness of the Saudis ... while businesses and individuals are trying to figure out how they're going to afford nearly $4 a gallon gas and nearly $5 a gallon diesel," she said. "The impact is really beginning to ripple dramatically through the economy."

Clinton's comments came during a roundtable discussion with local residents about a host of problems facing the country today, primarily economic ones.

"I think it's very important that we do something more dramatic than going to have tea with the Saudis," she said. "The Saudis may decide, well we better do something to help out President Bush, but that's a short term fix. It is not going to have any long-term consequences. And we just have to take a different approach if we're going to begin to get serious.

I would love if her supporters followed Hillary's lead a little
better. For all the talk of her being your leader, some are making her look bad on these blogs.


Yawn.
by spacemanspiff on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:30:08 PM EST

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Last 2 sentences are mine.


Yawn.
by spacemanspiff on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:30:39 PM EST
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Let's not go there on this thread, please...


Toot, thank you for raising such a terrific person...You done good and we will have you in our hearts.
by hootie4170 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:31:32 PM EST
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She's an incredibly tough woman who values all of her supporters greatly.  She obviously understands the reality of the situation, so she's shifted into "pound Bush/McSame" mode, because she's a damned good Democrat.


by Pat Flatley on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:34:32 PM EST
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Another wonderful diary Hootie. I look forward to joining our fellow Democrats and punishing the Republicans. My best to both of our candidates.


by Politicalslave on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:30:55 PM EST

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Great diary. Rec'd.


Hillary supporter for Barack Obama in 2008
by zcflint05 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:32:39 PM EST

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By the way I know Mccain is a pariah , but great closing at the NRA speech.

paraphrase I have served the country all my life and I would rather lose an election than take the political popular position on the war and endanger American national security.


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:41:32 PM EST

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By the way someone should tell Hillary Rodham Clinton to stop saying , I want to end the war in Iraq and win the war in Afganistan .

I have always hated it when she says that .

I want to win both.


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:44:07 PM EST
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Very nice (none / 0)

diary.  Recced.


Student Guy=JoeMentum. No really Student Guy=JoeMentum, after all JoeMentum was an embarrassment so is Student Guy. This sig is FAIL!!
by Student Guy on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:42:41 PM EST

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I would love to see HRC in a steel cage with Mark Penn...I'd pay to see her eff him up...


Toot, thank you for raising such a terrific person...You done good and we will have you in our hearts.
by hootie4170 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:44:11 PM EST

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Pay Per View.  Someone would make a ton of money.  I'd pay.  Mark Penn should be set adrift at sea...


I'm as strong as a bull moose, and you can use me to the limit. - Teddy Roosevelt
by fogiv on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:04:29 PM EST
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Now there's a way for her to retire her campaign debt... I bet all her supporters would love to see her kick the living daylights out of Mark Penn on their behalf for running the Clinton campaign into the ground.


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by mistersite on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:13:41 PM EST
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No doubt...No rules, and no Twinkie breaks for the Pennster.  I'm serious she would kick the living shit out of him, and rightfully so. Hillrod versus the Pennster....Odds 125 to 1 on HRC...


Toot, thank you for raising such a terrific person...You done good and we will have you in our hearts.
by hootie4170 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:17:31 PM EST
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I've said some things I regret too.  Hillary Clinton ran a good race.  It's obvious she has a lot of committed supporters who are willing to go as far as she asks.  Ignore the trolls, real Democrats will stand together no matter what happens.


by Skaje on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:50:32 PM EST

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In the Montana primary on June 3, I will proudly cast my vote for Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York to be the Democratic nominee for President of the US.  I ower her that much.  What happens after that is entirely up to her.  I have never been more thankful to be an American than during this campaign...


No politician ever lost an election because he underestimated the intelligence of the American public. - PT Barnum, paraphrased...
by jarhead5536 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:01:39 PM EST
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Kudos to you...


Toot, thank you for raising such a terrific person...You done good and we will have you in our hearts.
by hootie4170 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:03:27 PM EST
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I applaud you in your participation.

I respect anyone who's taken part in our primaries and caucuses and voted their conscience.  I don't have to agree with your choice in order to respect it.

I've felt this way throughout.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:07:34 PM EST
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Actually, I was pondering this today myself. Clinton has prepared Obama infinitely better for the GE. All the Rezko, Wright, etc, stuff has been played through, and all Clinton has to do is say somewhere publicly "Wow, look, you can tell none of that stuff is really about him" and the Republicans lost the majority of their attack lines.


Serious question- Is This Snark?
by ragekage on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:36:41 PM EST

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Spot on RK..


Toot, thank you for raising such a terrific person...You done good and we will have you in our hearts.
by hootie4170 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:47:27 PM EST
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Great diary, rec'd.

She's made him a stronger candidate.  I feel like she should use the next few weeks before it's official to push him even more on the issues--talk up her health care plan, etc, while letting him pivot to take on McCain.

I've always said that President Obama + Senate Majority Leader Clinton = an almost freakishly talented and powerful team . . . .


What is The October Protocol?
by Koan on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:50:57 PM EST


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