ME-Sen: Elect Tom Allen and Make Joe Lieberman Irrelevant

Jonathan and I seem to be in a senate state of mind today - Todd

In addition to electing a Democrat to the White House, the other dream result for November is to gain 9 seats in the senate for the magic filibuster-proof 60-seat majority (this is, of course, still counting Lieberman as part of our majority, which lately has become more and more questionable.) I've felt for a while that we should set 60 as our goal no matter how unlikely it seems. Hell, if we got that elusive 6th seat for the majority in 06, anything's possible. But now, looking at Chris Bowers's rundown of our winnable seats, it's remarkable to see just how doable 60 seats actually is.

Likely Democratic Pick-ups

  • 1. Virginia: Warner (D) 55%--37% Gilmore (R)
  • 2. New Mexico: Tom Udall (D) 54%--40% Pearce (R)
  • 3. New Hampshire: Shaheen (D) 51.5%--41.5% Sununu (R-inc)

Current Toss-ups

  • 1. Colorado: Mark Udall (D) 45.0%--43.5% Schaeffer (R)
  • 2. Alaska: Stevens (R-inc) 46%--45% Begich (D)

Competitive Seats, Republicans Favored

  • 1. Oregon: Smith (R-inc) 45%--42% Merkley (D); Smith 47%--41% Novick (D)
  • 2. North Carolina: Dole (R-inc) 47.7%--44.0% Hagen (D) (see also PPP)
  • 3. Texas: Cornyn (R-inc) 47.5%--43.5% Noriega (D)
  • 4. Minnesota: Coleman (R-inc) 51.0%--42.5% Franken (D) (see also Survey USA)

There's your nine right there, either ahead or behind within single digits. That is phenomenal. But why stop there? Let's make Lieberman irrelevant, let's get that tenth seat. I'd argue the most likely candidate for that tenth senate seat is the one held by faux moderate Bush enabler Susan Collins up in Maine. She's also one of Joe Lieberman's best buddies, so how sweet it would be if her defeat sealed his irrelevancy. But is it doable? Hell yes. Check out these new numbers from Rasmussen, which show her Democratic challenger, Rep. Tom Allen, gaining 6 points since their previous poll released April 1.

Susan Collins (R-Inc.) 52 (54)
Tom Allen (D) 42 (38)

Gerald at Turn Maine Blue puts this in perspective:

Still a lot of work to do (especially in the 2nd District), and it is unlikely that Allen will be able to chip away much at Collins' GOP base (despite their disgust for her), but the two are even amongst Independent voters now and hopefully Dem's will see the fallacy of supporting her, and this can be turned as the myth of her "moderation" is dispelled.

Collins is still winning 34% of Democrats. That will decline as Allen continues to make stark distinctions with Collins on Iraq, as he has done both on funding...

“After more than five long years, there is still no end in sight in Iraq. Yet President Bush, Vice President Cheney, Senator Collins, and other supporters of an open-ended commitment still have no plan for bringing our troops home,” Allen said. “During a time when the middle class is struggling to pay for things like fuel, groceries, healthcare, and education, we continue to spend $12 billion every month in Iraq. America can’t afford to stay in Iraq indefinitely. For that reason, I will oppose any funding bill that doesn’t include a firm, responsible deadline to bring our troops home.”

...And on Collins's tragic lack of oversight when she was chair of the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee...

"Allen...said the then-Republican-led Congress and Collins in particular should have done more before 2006 to investigate the military’s preparation for the reconstruction effort. The Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee was supposed to oversee the work of contractors who wasted billions of taxpayer dollars in Iraq, he said, but for 3½ years Collins "refused" to hold hearings on the issue.

"If she [had] only held a few hearings, it would have exposed that the administration’s oversight was woefully inadequate," Allen said. "The consequence of that has been to make what happened in Iraq a lot worse, a lot worse than it needed to be."

The media has even picked up the story. Check out this devastating news piece that aired on CBS local news in Portland:

So, as you can see, there's reason to be optimistic about the possibility of winning the magic 60-seat majority in the senate, but if we really want to have a true filibuster-proof majority of ALL Democrats, we need to help elect Tom Allen to the senate and send perhaps the most egregious example of a Bush rubberstamp posing as a moderate that we have in the senate packing.

So, do me a favor and throw Tom Allen some love over at Act Blue today. I know we have an embarrassment of riches in terms of our candidates this year and many of us are already tapped out from the presidential campaign, but we need to step up for each and every one of our challengers, even if it's a little bit. I'm in for $20. Who's with me?



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I'd love nothing better (2.00 / 1)

than seeing Lieberman made irrelevant. However, seeing him lose his next bid for re-election would come in a close 2nd.

Thanks for the good news Todd.


by phoenixdreamz on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:02:15 PM EST

Re: I'd love nothing better (none / 0)


Let's have both.

We can lose Traitor Joe in 2012, but it's a long 4+ years till then. Let's help to neutralize him in the meantime.

Joe is actively CAMPAIGNING for Collins. Losing Collins is therefore a good way to get revenge on Lieberman, too.


by admiralnaismith on Fri May 16, 2008 at 11:55:26 PM EST
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Make Joe Lieberman Irrelevant (2.00 / 1)

Can we, please?  The more that man speaks, the more his pisses me off.


by NewOaklandDem on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:02:18 PM EST

contributed to Allen yesterday (2.00 / 1)

through Act Blue

I watched that clip with both him and Collins arguing about the way her committee handled the contractor fraud and immediately donated.

Making Joe irrelevant would be wonderful but getting rid of Collins on her own merits is just as important.

http://actblue.com/


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by obsessed on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:06:05 PM EST

There are worse Republicans (none / 0)

than Susan Collins.  I could live with more like her on the other side of the aisle.  Now, Inhofe, HE needs to go, big time...


No politician ever lost an election because he underestimated the intelligence of the American public. - PT Barnum, paraphrased...
by jarhead5536 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:06:49 PM EST

Re: There are worse Republicans (2.00 / 1)

I disagree. Collins talks a good moderate game, but that's all it is - talk. It's the same with all those so-called moderate Republicans from blue states. Yes, they'd probably do things differently if they ran the party, but they don't, and they never will, and when push comes to shove, they carry the far right's water. Every. Single. Time.

We need to get them out and replace them with good Democrats.


by Angry White Democrat on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:17:33 PM EST
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Re: There are worse Republicans (none / 0)

If we knock off Collins, we got that seat for the foreseeable future.  The GOP has no up and coming bench in Maine, even after Allen retires, it favors us as an open seat.

If we take Inhofe (or any other red-state seat, like Roberts, Cornyn, Dole, McConnell, Wicker) we'll have to pour in money every six years to hold it down, and when the incumbent eventually retires we'll be hard pressed to hold the seat (remember what happened in the South in 2004?  We lost five Southern Senate seats due to retirement).

Building up a large, SAFE majority is the path to keeping it.  Plus we tend to end up with a more progressive coalition when more of our representatives and senators come from blue districts and states.


by Skaje on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:30:37 PM EST
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Re: There are worse Republicans (2.00 / 1)

Yeah we'll have to pour money into some of those you mention .. but that is what it takes .. to take seats back from Republicans ... and to hold them in   a 50 state strategy ... no one said it would be easy .. besides .. no one ever said it would be easy .. beating Republicans and their corporate masters


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by Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:47:01 PM EST
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We'd need 10 seats to make Lieberman irrelevant (none / 0)

And that's only if we could hold our entire caucus together on every controversial cloture vote, which is practically impossible.


by Angry White Democrat on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:15:34 PM EST

Mississippi (2.00 / 1)

I can't find any polling on the Mississippi race, but would think Musgrove has a good chance.


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by soccerandpolitics on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:21:59 PM EST

Re: Mississippi (none / 0)

If he gets 30% of the white vote he wins.  Simple as that.  If Obama can bring out a record turnout of African-Americans Musgrove could beat Wicker with only 25% of white voters.  This seat is definitely one to watch.


by Skaje on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:32:19 PM EST
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Re: ME-Sen: Elect Tom Allen and Make Joe Lieberman (none / 0)

Maine is completely doable.  And let's not count out Nebraska.  While Scott Kleeb's got his work cut out for him, it's definitely a race to watch.


by The Distillery on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:24:35 PM EST

Re: ME-Sen: Elect Tom Allen and Make (none / 0)

I got to think that even in Nebraska, being a former member of Bush's cabinet has to be a negative.  Kleeb already beat one wealthy candidate, you gotta believe he is getting some press for that.


by Skaje on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:33:43 PM EST
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Re: ME-Sen: Elect Tom Allen and Make (none / 0)

And it helps being an open seat


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by Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:48:24 PM EST
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Dems fortune looking better and better (none / 0)

Have all of the senate seats even been polled yet? Maybe something out of Kentucky, Tennessee, Nebraska or Mississippi will look good as well. Also, we're only 12 points behind in Kansas too. So this may look more and more in the realm of possibility as time goes on.


by swimmercrat on Fri May 16, 2008 at 06:56:50 PM EST

MN (none / 0)

Jesse Ventura might run for Senate in MN

If he wins, he will be on the blue side for a lot of votes.

Who knows if that helps or hurts Al Frankin...


by gil44 on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:15:27 PM EST

Re: Make Joe Lieberman irrelevant (none / 0)

I am all for making Joe Lieberman irrelevant, but consider this: Progressive Punch gives him a 79.76 rating for '07-'08, placing him 46th among current Senators. If you want to throw darts, throw them at Mark Pryor, Mary Landrieu, Evan Bayh, Ben Nelson, or the inexplicable Tim Johnson. In fact, darling Barack Obama, at 82.77, rates only a few places higher than Lieberman. Even when the "chips are down," Lieberman rates as high or higher than those unholy 5. The real puzzle is Tim Johnson. What is he, or his staff, thinking?

http://progressivepunch.org/members.jsp? member=HI1&search=selectScore&ch amber=Senate&zip=&x=25&y=9

Bob in HI


by Bob Schacht on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:35:04 PM EST

Thanks for this, Todd. As a Mainer, one of the (none / 0)

things I long for, oh so very much - besides the right to marry my partner (thank you Calif. for bringing us one step closer) - is to see Susan Collins go down in flames. She irritates me more than our natural tourist repellent, the voracious black-fly. Tom is the one to bring her down. It's good to see him go right at her and tie her to Bushco's failed venture in Iraq. She is an enabler of all things Bush and she can't run from that...


Obama supporter working to defeat McCain.
by Rumarhazzit on Fri May 16, 2008 at 07:44:07 PM EST

Re: Thanks for this, Todd. As a Mainer, one of the (2.00 / 1)

"besides the right to marry my partner (thank you Calif. for bringing us one step closer)".
Congratulations on your marriage to-be, in advance. It will happen. :)
by DeanOR on Sat May 17, 2008 at 03:37:37 PM EST
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Make Joe Lieberman Irrelevant (none / 0)

Maybe I'm just stuck in the past, but is a democratic victory in a state wide elction in Texas really possible?

Also, while I will concede the possibility that there are less liberal Democrate Senators than Lieberman, they didn't run as independents.  They probably don't represent states that could easily elect Democrats willing to pull out of Iraq or be depended on.  I have sympathy for moderates from moderate areas, kinda a benefit of a doubt thing, but Lieberman has no excuse.


by goodleh on Fri May 16, 2008 at 08:00:38 PM EST

Texas (none / 0)

Not necessarily likely, but possible.  Remember the Dem mayor of Dallas who almost made it in 2002 for the same seat?


by admiralnaismith on Fri May 16, 2008 at 11:53:39 PM EST
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Replacements for Obama? Clinton? Maybe Webb? (none / 0)


As we count up possible Dems in the Senate after the election, are we overlooking the fact that at least one Democratic Senator will probably be President next year, and a second one possibly Vice President?  Just asking :-)

-- TP


by Rethymniotis on Fri May 16, 2008 at 11:37:49 PM EST

Re: Replacements for Obama? (none / 0)

Illinois is safe Dem.

Only way we lose that one is if Blagovich appoints himself and then has to face the voters.

Same for NY. No Rethug's gonna win a Senate race there for a long time.

VA, not so sure. I'd think hard before giving up that precious Senate seat to have him as VP. I'm not sure he's even such an avid campaigner as to help Obama.


by admiralnaismith on Fri May 16, 2008 at 11:52:46 PM EST
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I would be very surprised that Stevens loses in (none / 0)

that seat. That is a tough state for the democrat and Ted Stevens is very well connected, has a huge electoral machine, vast networks of patronage, and they kind of love him up there because he really brings the bacon home. He is also known for extreme radical negative campaigning behind the scenes, everything stealth, nothing in the open and street money is the most important factor in winning election up there, no street money, no victory as simple as this.

However, all the indicators are in the red for the republicans (and Ted Stevens has a financial scandal on his hands) and if there ever were a year to flip that seat, it would be this year. Plus, McCain hates Stevens and Stevens hates McCain. So you can bet that there would no general elections residual impact on Alaska.

That would be a good sweet seat to have. Stevens, 40 years in the Senate get defeated. That is a headline i would love to read. It's got to be realigning election in order for us to win that seat.


by likelihood zero on Fri May 16, 2008 at 11:53:55 PM EST

Re: ME-Sen: Elect Tom Allen (none / 0)

I'd love to see Aleen succeed... but I have to say, people who expect Maine to come along for the Northeast's general swing to the Democrats miss how disconnected Maine is from the region, and the country. Snowe and Collins, as a team, already don't fit the GOP profile; trying to attach either of them to the anti-Bush train is a stretch, and not, I think, what Mainers really go for. If Collins is to be replaced, I'd say you'd have to show her not performing for Miane... and that seems unlikely. Absent that, it seems to me she and Snowe have strong support systems and an established base. I could be wrong; I'm really a casual observer and only an occasional visitor to the state (relatives on the coast towards Rockland). But I don't get the massive antipathy that's out there, say, for Gilmore in VA or Sununu in NH (and also, from a demographic standpoint, Massachusetts liberalism has moved into NH, not Maine). I suspect Collins will stay... but as a fairly liberal Republican, I too wonder if thats such a bad thing.
by nycweboy1 on Sat May 17, 2008 at 12:41:11 AM EST

Oregon Smith-Merkley (2.00 / 1)

The Oregon Smith vs Merkley contest actually belongs in the "toss up" category since it is within the margin of error. Reporters like to say that 'candidate x is ahead, but it's a "statistical tie"', which is nonsense. Such results mean the two are indistinguishable based on the data. And the trend favors the Dems. Both Merkley and Novick are solid liberal/progressive. Smith is running scared. He gave an anti-war speech a while back when it became clear that he was going to be in trouble in November, which was a total flip flop and not convincing to some people. He is another one who cultivates a "moderate" image but votes with the Bushies where it counts. He has a lot of money, so it may take some out-of-State financing to beat him. If he's ever to be unseated, this is the year. Frankly, I think taking the Senate is as important as taking the White House. We will need to tie him to Bush relentlessly.


by DeanOR on Sat May 17, 2008 at 03:30:11 PM EST

I can count to 12 competetive races (none / 0)

including MS (Musgrove) and KY.  NE, ID, and KS are longshots, but not impossible.  So we don't necessarily need exactly the 10 races the diarist listed, though I agree they're the best-looking 10 as of now.


by lilnev on Sat May 17, 2008 at 03:43:37 PM EST


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