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John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread

by Todd Beeton, Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:39:49 PM EST

Barack Obama is taking the stage at his rally where John Edwards will announce his endorsement of Obama.

Update [2008-5-14 18:48:48 by Todd Beeton]:"During the course of this campaign, I have gotten to know the candidates very well." He first wants to address Hillary Clinton. Way to stay classy, Grand Rapids, booing Hillary in this context. Sheesh.

Speaking about Hillary Clinton, Edwards said:

"It is very very hard to get up every day and do what she's done. It is hard to get out there and fight and speak up when the odds turn against you. What she has shown is strength and character and what drives her is something that each and every one of us should appreciate. She cares about working people...men and women in Iraq...she is a woman made of steel and she is a leader in this country not because of her husband but because of what she has done...When this nomination battle is over, brothers and sisters, we must come together as Democrats and in the fall stand up for the future of America to make America better. We are a stronger party because Hillary Clinton is a Democrat...and we will have a stronger presidential nominee in the fall because of her work."

Update [2008-5-14 18:54:0 by Josh Orton]: Apologies for stating the obvious, but noticeably not on stage: Elizabeth Edwards.

Update [2008-5-14 19:1:52 by Todd Beeton]:"What all of us believe is in this America that we love so much, no matter who you are, no matter who your family is and no matter the color of your skin, none of those things will control your destiny and that one America that I've talked about is not only possible but it will be achieved under President Barack Obama starting in January, 2009."

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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (2.00 / 3)

What a perfect location, and a perfect time.

NO 100 year WAR, NO McConnell run Senate, & NO GOP-led Supreme Court!!!

by Veteran75 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:40:57 PM EST

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (2.00 / 2)

This excitement feels like a mini-convention!

NO 100 year WAR, NO McConnell run Senate, & NO GOP-led Supreme Court!!!

by Veteran75 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:41:47 PM EST
[ Parent ]

How can everyone say Obama 'has won' (1.50 / 2)

WHEN HE IS ONLY AHEAD BY 100,000 VOTES!?

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by architek on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:05:30 PM EST
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Re: How can everyone say Obama 'has won' (2.00 / 3)

Because he has? And your numbers are made up?

McCain = Iraq. John McCain = overturn Roe.

by PantsB on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:07:21 PM EST
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Re: How can everyone say Obama 'has won' (2.00 / 2)

in 2012 we can switch to 'votes'

Right now we have delegates chosen by various methods.

You can't remove the three-point rule in the middle of a basketball game. You can't switch to primary votes(ignoring caucuses) over delegates in the final weeks.

NO 100 year WAR, NO McConnell run Senate, & NO GOP-led Supreme Court!!!

by Veteran75 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:08:37 PM EST
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Re: How can everyone say Obama 'has won' (2.00 / 1)

But isn't it obvious? Obama has zero popularity in Michigan.

ummm, wait a sec.

If yer after gettin the honey, then you don't go killing all the bees.

by Fluffy Puff Marshmallow on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:40:59 PM EST
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when we switch to votes ... (2.00 / 1)

Can we try counting only the ones where both candidates are on the ballot?

McCain housing policy shaped by lobbyist.

by obsessed on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:58:28 PM EST
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Because one person willingly... (none / 0)

took their name off the ballot when not required to do so we must ignore the other person's success?

by JimR on Wed May 14, 2008 at 08:55:06 PM EST
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Re: Because one person willingly... (none / 0)

If making a case to the super delegates as to electability, it doesn't really matter why he took his name off the ballot because he's not going to take it off in November.

McCain housing policy shaped by lobbyist.

by obsessed on Wed May 14, 2008 at 10:56:36 PM EST
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Re: How can everyone say Obama 'has won' (none / 0)

Only die hard Clinton supporters buy that argument. The rest of us realize the popular vote doesn't matter.

Consider that everything which happens, happens justly, and if thou observest carefully, thou wilt find it to be so. -Marcus Aurelius

by Blue Neponset on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:29:32 PM EST
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DREAM TEAM !! (2.00 / 5)

"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!

by Al Rodgers on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:51:40 PM EST
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Re: DREAM TEAM !! (2.00 / 1)

A truly moving speech.

This is why my sister worked for Edwards.

That complete imbecile, Pat Buchanan says the Edwards endorsement is a victory for Hillary. No Really. What a delusional jerk.

"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!

by Al Rodgers on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:06:13 PM EST
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Re: DREAM TEAM !! (2.00 / 2)

That's his job.

Day before the Pennsylvania primary, he predicts Clinton will win by "6-12". She wins by 9, right in the middle. All night long he goes "WHAT IS THIS? HOW CAN THIS HAPPEN TO THE FRONT RUNNER WHAT A SHOCK!"

Now he's saying the test of whether or not the endorsement is going to work is... wait for it...

Kentucky.

Forget it Jake, it's Clintontown.

by Jordache on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:35:14 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (none / 0)

Yes, purposely stepping on HRC's WV win in the news cycle was "perfect timing."

If you're trying to create even more division in the party, that is.

by bellarose on Wed May 14, 2008 at 08:25:36 PM EST
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Looks like Michigan loves Obama :^) (2.00 / 4)

should we go outside? / should we break some bread? / are you'nterested?

by Firewall on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:41:45 PM EST

well (1.40 / 5)

There was a reason I never was thrilled with Edwards and this has to be it.

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by Robert Oak on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:42:40 PM EST

Re: well (2.00 / 10)

If he were endorsing Clinton right now you would be talking about how you always knew he was a great guy.

Oh Mammy Dear, we're all mad over here livin' in America

by JDF on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:48:21 PM EST
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Clinton Relativity (2.00 / 2)

by grass on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:49:56 PM EST
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Re: well (1.20 / 5)

Eat your hearts out, Clinton haters, at Edwards' gracious and generous words. Is Clinton an evil lair, as you say, or is Edwards?

by doyenne49 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:52:30 PM EST
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Re: well (1.80 / 5)

Don't be a douche.

John McCain defends Bush's Iraq strategy.

by recusancy on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:53:10 PM EST
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Re: well (none / 0)

Technically speaking, they both could be liars.

by Rationalisto on Wed May 14, 2008 at 08:52:11 PM EST
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I Just Unsubscribed from John Edwards (2.00 / 1)

I just unsubscribed from John Edwards' mailing list. He had the nerve to send a request for contributions to whatever gobbledygook he's cooked up now at the same time he's endorsing Mr. Hope.

by Zeitgeist9000 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:54:03 PM EST
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Don't be a jerk (2.00 / 3)

He is starting a college fund for the poor. He is remaining true to his values. Gosh you know you would be all over this if he was endorsing Clinton. Act like a democrat.

by sweet potato pie on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:17:52 PM EST
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Re: Don't be a jerk (none / 0)

They can't. No class.

Yawn.

by spacemanspiff on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:21:21 PM EST
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Re: Don't be a jerk (none / 0)

YUP, looks like the freaks from No Quarter have shown up here! YAY!!

I believe everyone should go to that turd of a blog to point and laugh at the freaks who call(ed) themselves Democrats. It's profoundly sad.....

by funknjunk on Wed May 14, 2008 at 08:02:22 PM EST
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Re: I Just Unsubscribed from John Edwards (2.00 / 2)

Excellent commentary. Thanks for sharing.

I agree, if there is anything we should all condemn, it's hope. F*ck hope.

Change is coming soon.

by jv on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:38:37 PM EST
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Do-gooder funds: who needs 'em (none / 0)

when HRC's campaign debt needs paying off?

/snark

Obama leads the popular vote too

by kellogg on Wed May 14, 2008 at 08:20:35 PM EST
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It's a beautiful thing! (2.00 / 2)

Motley Moose: Progress Through Politics

by chrisblask on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:42:54 PM EST

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (2.00 / 1)

That arena looks big for Grand Rapids. Does someone have a capacity number?

NO 100 year WAR, NO McConnell run Senate, & NO GOP-led Supreme Court!!!

by Veteran75 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:43:08 PM EST

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (none / 0)

Van Andel Arena: 12,000+ capacity

I'm as strong as a bull moose, and you can use me to the limit. - Teddy Roosevelt

by fogiv on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:03:11 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (2.00 / 4)

That place is electric.

Yawn.

by spacemanspiff on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:44:06 PM EST

This will play very well (2.00 / 2)

on the news tonight. It's almost as if that was the plan all along... :-)

by McNasty on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:53:33 PM EST
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Re: This will play very well (none / 0)

almost as if ;)

by haystax calhoun on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:10:04 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (2.00 / 6)

Gotta admit, this puts a smile on my face :)

by Djo on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:44:11 PM EST

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (2.00 / 10)

OK . . . we need to start coaching the boos out of our supporters. Stay classy people!

NO 100 year WAR, NO McConnell run Senate, & NO GOP-led Supreme Court!!!

by Veteran75 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:44:39 PM EST

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (2.00 / 3)

Yeah, I understand the're excited, but that's a shitty thing to do.

by PantherDem on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:45:38 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (2.00 / 3)

Agreed, we have to get beyond the vitriol of this uber-primary and focus on getting Obama to the WH, not tearing down other Dems.

McCain = Iraq. John McCain = overturn Roe.

by PantsB on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:47:47 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (2.00 / 4)

well wait till we see the Anti-Edwards diaries, they are being typed up right now!

Dream for tomorrow but fight for it today.

by TruthMatters on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:51:50 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (2.00 / 2)

It has already started in these comments.

Doesn't change that the people in the audience who cheered to drown out the boos were in the right.

McCain = Iraq. John McCain = overturn Roe.

by PantsB on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:52:56 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (none / 0)

Don't bother....most of us Hillary supporters will write her in in the GE...so continute thrashing her...please!

by Nighttrain on Wed May 14, 2008 at 09:49:49 PM EST
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Hillary's not gonna like that (none / 0)

Maybe you missed this from CNN.

Hillary said it would be a "terrible mistake" for her supporters to vote for John McCain over Barack Obama.

...

"Anybody who has ever voted for me or voted for Barack has much more in common in terms of what we want to see happen in our country and in the world with the other than they do with John McCain," Clinton said on CNN's "The Situation Room."

"I'm going to work my heart out for whoever our nominee is. Obviously, I'm still hoping to be that nominee, but I'm going to do everything I can to make sure that anyone who supported me ... understands what a grave error it would be not to vote for Sen. Obama."

by ruscle on Thu May 15, 2008 at 12:57:11 AM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (none / 0)

Michigan Obama supporters get a pass.

by grasshopper on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:07:47 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (none / 0)

Way to help build that bridge Senator Edwards!

:o)

NO 100 year WAR, NO McConnell run Senate, & NO GOP-led Supreme Court!!!

by Veteran75 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:46:47 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (2.00 / 5)

Edwards is doing the coaching right now. And the crowd is responding by cheering for her.

John McCain defends Bush's Iraq strategy.

by recusancy on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:49:26 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (2.00 / 3)

Agreed . . . and I already see him or HRC giving the keynote at a unified convention.

NO 100 year WAR, NO McConnell run Senate, & NO GOP-led Supreme Court!!!

by Veteran75 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:52:17 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (none / 0)

I know! I was sitting here shouting at the TV, "come on people, cheer, don't boo!" An unfortunate moment in an otherwise very positive and upbeat event.

Netroots Nation in Second Life!

by Progressive Witness on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:52:09 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (2.00 / 2)

Some people cannot help themselves.

And younger people often have no manners.

Neither is a revelation.

by reggie44pride on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:59:25 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (none / 0)

They weren't saying "Boooo." They were saying "Bruuuuuuuce." Cuz of the Springsteen.

by Rationalisto on Wed May 14, 2008 at 09:03:34 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (2.00 / 2)

I still have trouble getting over how much John Edwards loks like John Ritter. If Chrissy shows up in the background behind him, I will freak out.

by PantherDem on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:44:55 PM EST

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (2.00 / 5)

Classy. Mountains of praise for HRC.

I'm as strong as a bull moose, and you can use me to the limit. - Teddy Roosevelt

by fogiv on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:46:11 PM EST

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (1.00 / 1)

While he purposefully steps on the media coverage of her WV win. Yeah, real classy.

by bellarose on Wed May 14, 2008 at 08:32:33 PM EST
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lol (none / 0)

welcome to politics.

BHO/HRC 08

by omar little on Wed May 14, 2008 at 11:02:03 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (none / 0)

Please...continue thrashing her as usual...why stop now...haven't you heard: most of us Hillary supporters will write her in in the GE...

by Nighttrain on Wed May 14, 2008 at 09:52:42 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (none / 0)

Who let the Rush Limbaugh listener in?

by mjtosner on Wed May 14, 2008 at 10:38:50 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (2.00 / 10)

The crowd booing Clinton was pretty tacky - it's past the time to stop that.

by gcensr on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:46:51 PM EST

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (2.00 / 2)

Absolutely agreed. Now, booing waterboarding, as the crowd just did...a good thing.

Netroots Nation in Second Life!

by Progressive Witness on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:53:42 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (none / 0)

What do you really expect from them?

by doyenne49 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 09:34:36 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (2.00 / 19)

Congrats to the Obama campaign. This a great day for ya'all.

Hillary supporter for Barack Obama in 2008

by zcflint05 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:46:53 PM EST

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (2.00 / 9)

Us.

All of us.

Yawn.

by spacemanspiff on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:47:52 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (2.00 / 8)

You are a classy person. I doubt that I would be as gracious as you're being were our roles reversed, and I admire that. Kudos to you, sir or mam.

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by jaiwithani on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:49:41 PM EST
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Thank You. Class Statement (2.00 / 5)

Motley Moose: Progress Through Politics

by chrisblask on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:54:05 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (2.00 / 5)

It's also brings us closer to a very bad run of days for John McCain....

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by WashStateBlue on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:03:50 PM EST
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Image I didn't need (2.00 / 2)

Let's not talk about McCain and the runs, 'k?

"Mom, baseball, apple pie, and a unified Democratic juggernaut."

by Purplepeople on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:11:03 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (2.00 / 3)

Also, I'd uprate you if I could.

::invisible 2::

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Still not putting up with "preening" posts

by jaiwithani on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:17:45 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (2.00 / 3)

He is a very good peaker Edwards.

Obama/Warner 2008

by MissVA on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:48:44 PM EST

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (none / 0)

Do you really like the idea of Hagel on the ticket?

I kind of like the guy but I am uncomfortable with the idea.

Oh Mammy Dear, we're all mad over here livin' in America

by JDF on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:51:26 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (none / 0)

In a year when the Republican brand is in the gutter, it's unorthodox, to say the least.

I personally think a Democrat should be President and Vice-President, but that's just me.

by PantherDem on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:53:41 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (none / 0)

Agreed, and as I mentioned upthread, it means if he had to take over the presidency it would go GOP.

by mady on Wed May 14, 2008 at 08:09:46 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (none / 0)

What charity do you want me to donate the $20 to?

by Zeitgeist9000 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:00:36 PM EST
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NARAL (2.00 / 5)

They've been flamed unfairly by a certain group today.

-chris

Motley Moose: Progress Through Politics

by chrisblask on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:20:56 PM EST
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Re: NARAL (none / 0)

Good call.

I'm as strong as a bull moose, and you can use me to the limit. - Teddy Roosevelt

by fogiv on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:21:45 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (2.00 / 1)

Hegel on the ticket is absurd.

The idea of a VP is that you share at least some agenda, politically speaking.

Hegel's is no "moderate" Republican. He is rather conservative. Why would you want that ticket? Something happens to Obama, we have a Republican president. Brilliant thinking.

by reggie44pride on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:00:55 PM EST
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Indeed (2.00 / 2)

Hegel on the ticket is absurd :^)

"We live entangled in webs of endless deceit, often self-deceit, but with a little honest effort, it is possible to extricate ourselves from them". -- NC

by Trond Jacobsen on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:21:06 PM EST
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Hagel? (2.00 / 1)

No Way!!!

Washington Woman

Progressive Blue

by kevin22262 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:10:28 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (none / 0)

Hagel as a part of the cabinet? Definitely, for a lot of reasons.

Hagel as VP? No.

No Way. No How. No McCain-Palin!

by Texas Gray Wolf on Wed May 14, 2008 at 10:06:58 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (2.00 / 2)

I love, love the praise for Sen. Clinton. "Her hard work has strengthened the party for the fall contest" or something to that effect. Very true, very classy.

(even though Edwards has always struck me as a bit smarmy. I still feel that way. Just a gut reaction.)

I hope he talks about ISSUES.

What is The October Protocol?

by Koan on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:48:59 PM EST

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (2.00 / 2)

I loved the Jet Ski joke followed by the praise of Clinton. Let's bring it all together!

But in the unlikely story that is America, there has never been anything false about hope.

by thezzyzx on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:49:10 PM EST

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (2.00 / 2)

Wow. That's a big friggin' crowd. Van Andel Arena? Capacity 12,000+

I'm as strong as a bull moose, and you can use me to the limit. - Teddy Roosevelt

by fogiv on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:49:49 PM EST

Lots of thoughts (2.00 / 3)

a.) Stop booing

b.) This is fantastic for the party I think.

c.) Who will the first person be here to right an anti-Edwards diary?

d.) Its nice to hear the praise of Hillary even if the idiots in the crowd boo'd

I am sure there are more, but the point is that this is awesome and would be even better if there weren't people out there determined to ruin it.

Oh Mammy Dear, we're all mad over here livin' in America

by JDF on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:50:54 PM EST

Re: Lots of thoughts (2.00 / 4)

c.) Who will the first person be here to right an anti-Edwards diary?

Alege? (sp?)

That's my money.

by reggie44pride on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:01:41 PM EST
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Re: Lots of thoughts (none / 0)

c.) Who will the first person be here to right an anti-Edwards diary?

My money is on Linc.

Capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my uncle Jack off a horse..." and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse..."

by igottheblues on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:16:41 PM EST
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Re: Lots of thoughts (none / 0)

dtaylor for sure

by chewie5656 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:47:24 PM EST
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Re: Lots of thoughts (none / 0)

Please...let them boo (and hiss...and name call)..most of the Hillary supporters I know will be writing her in in the GE...

by Nighttrain on Wed May 14, 2008 at 10:01:32 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (1.14 / 7)

booing clinton? I wouldnt expect anything esle from Obama supporters!

by boxer4hrc on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:51:27 PM EST

You can expect a lot more from Obama (none / 0)

supporters.

And if you haven't seen more, now is the time to open your eyes.

-best

-chris

Motley Moose: Progress Through Politics

by chrisblask on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:53:07 PM EST
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Re: You can expect a lot more from Obama (2.00 / 4)

Cheers drowned out the boos.

You hear what you want to hear.

Yawn.

by spacemanspiff on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:55:58 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (1.66 / 3)

Well, all they did was boo someone who has been running a racist campaign. Is that completely unforgivable?

by torrentprime on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:19:01 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (none / 0)

Yeah...sure...racist....if that's what you take away from her campaign, then I feel sorry for you...but don't let me STOP you from calling her more names; I plan on writing her in in the GE...

by Nighttrain on Wed May 14, 2008 at 10:03:48 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (none / 0)

I'm sure John McCain appreciates your support.

by torrentprime on Thu May 15, 2008 at 12:41:46 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (none / 0)

::cheers Clinton::

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by jaiwithani on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:26:10 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (2.00 / 8)

The booing of a fellow Democrat is atrocious and needs to be ceased immediately, everywhere.

That being said, Edwards truly is doing this at a perfect time. Sweeps every WV Blowout off of the headlines and keeps the distractions to a minimum.

There will be a President Barack Obama. We need to start focusing on this now.

by AlexScott on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:52:47 PM EST

When people raise points about Obama's lack of... (none / 0)

substance or of viable solutions, the Obama people always come back with these loyalty arguments, and never address the point at all.

That makes me ill.

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by architek on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:18:37 PM EST
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Re: When people raise points about Obama's lack of (none / 0)

They never address your "points" because they don't exist. Half of the media coverage of this campaign has trumpeted that Obama and Hillary have nearly the same policy and prescriptions for the issues we face. So are you saying every single person covering the race is lying, or that Hillary is equally without substance? Are Hillary's solutions, universally described as nearly identical to Obama's not viable? Of course not. You're just repeating a GOP talking point: that Obama has no substance, blah blah.

by torrentprime on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:22:40 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (none / 0)

I was extremely disappointed by the booing. It was uncalled for an unnecessary. I've been very upset by the kind of negative campaign Hillary has run, but that was not appropriate.

by jadegirl on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:43:53 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (none / 0)

I was extremely disappointed by the booing. It was uncalled for an unnecessary. I've been very upset by the kind of negative campaign Hillary has run, but that was not appropriate.

by jadegirl on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:44:18 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Thread (none / 0)

Really? Seems in tune with Obama supporters to me...

by Nighttrain on Wed May 14, 2008 at 10:21:01 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (2.00 / 6)

Way to stay classy, Grand Rapids, booing Hillary in this context.

Not possible. Every single Democratic voter in Michigan voted for Hillary.

They were probably saying 'Bluuuuuue'.

by Wayward Son on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:53:14 PM EST

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (2.00 / 3)

. . . real classy what he said about Hillary. . .

"The Bumble Bee flies because it thinks it can."

by LadyEagle on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:53:21 PM EST

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (1.33 / 3)

why hasnt edwards or obama called for a stop to the booing?

I knew i never really liked edwards!

by boxer4hrc on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:54:02 PM EST

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (2.00 / 8)

The MSNBC shot showed Obama motioning for the crowd to stop booing the first time they started. They've been cheering her since then.

by jbessey on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:59:24 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (none / 0)

They have and they both did as it happened.

There is even a specific group on MyBO to try to sap that crap out of the crowds, but as we all know the emotions run high.

Most folks don't blog, don't volunteer. Most of them are just emoting, for better or worse (not that we here are always better or worse, myself included...).

-chris

Motley Moose: Progress Through Politics

by chrisblask on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:59:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (2.00 / 3)

They did.

And

I knew i never really liked edwards!

is comically predictable.

McCain = Iraq. John McCain = overturn Roe.

by PantsB on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:00:17 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (none / 0)

just so you know im in class and im not watching this on tv....so im going off of what everyone are saying...no one has said anything.....GOOD FOR THEM!!!!!!

But still i was never a fan of john and felt he didnt run a good campaign. so i still dont care who he supports. I do however love elizabeth and look forward to her endorsment of Hill!

by boxer4hrc on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:04:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]

You have no clue why Elizabeth couldn't make it. (none / 0)

Presumptuous to the extreme.

John McCain: He flunked ECON 101.

by Shem on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:11:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]

booing (2.00 / 3)

Obama was waving his hand and shaking his head in reaction to the booing.

Emily MacRae

by egmacrae on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:04:16 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: booing (none / 0)

thats great and i hope his supporters will follow his lead!

by boxer4hrc on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:05:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: booing (2.00 / 1)

Obama shaked his head and gestured with his hand to stop booing.

Obama/Warner 2008

by MissVA on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:08:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: booing (none / 0)

Just a comment on your signature line. Wouldn't having Hagel as VP turn the presidency back to the GOP if he had to take over as president. I really think that's a very poor idea.

by mady on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:58:38 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (none / 0)

Obama is listening very intensely to JRE.

Obama/Warner 2008

by MissVA on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:59:55 PM EST

As he should (2.00 / 1)

Obama needs to be a little bit more like Edwards and speak truth to power.

Washington Woman

Progressive Blue

by kevin22262 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:04:43 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (2.00 / 1)

No Elizabeth. Apparently she and John have agreed to disagree. I don't expect her to publicly endorse Hillary though.

No politician ever lost an election because he underestimated the intelligence of the American public. - PT Barnum, paraphrased...

by jarhead5536 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:00:13 PM EST

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (2.00 / 1)

Her number 1 concern IS health care. Hillary's and John's plans were closest to being the same.

Washington Woman

Progressive Blue

by kevin22262 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:02:57 PM EST
[ Parent ]

or maybe... (2.00 / 2)

...they couldn't find a sitter on such short notice.

Hey, it's possible, isn't it? :-)

by N in Seattle on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:19:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Or (2.00 / 1)

Or she's sick.

Or she had to be elsewhere.

Or who knows?

Let's not grasp at straws.

by Hudson on Wed May 14, 2008 at 09:07:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Update (none / 0)

Folks round here do not accept the obvious.

Government derives its power from those that it governs.

by lockewasright on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:01:15 PM EST

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (none / 0)

Obama is so the next President.

by Please on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:01:38 PM EST

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (1.50 / 2)

of the hair club for men?

:-D

by reggie44pride on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:03:19 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (none / 0)

There are alot of people on Redstate that share your opinion. Why don't you go crawl back underneath your bridge?

by Djo on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:26:14 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (none / 0)

Careful. Read thru more of Reggie's posts. You'll find he's quite balanced in his approach.

If yer after gettin the honey, then you don't go killing all the bees.

by Fluffy Puff Marshmallow on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:35:27 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (none / 0)

I was just making a joke.

Some people need a sense of humor!

Thanks FPM!

by reggie44pride on Wed May 14, 2008 at 08:12:22 PM EST
[ Parent ]

I like the hairclub joke (none / 0)

but I couldn't think of a followup.

I'd lend the guy some of mine, but he'd look silly as a blonde...

-chris

Motley Moose: Progress Through Politics

by chrisblask on Wed May 14, 2008 at 08:28:09 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (none / 0)

I think most people understood that. I nearly snorted milk out my nose, just cuz your comment flowed so well (although I think Edwards is the natural choice for HCM prez).

Obviously, you don't need me to stick up for you but I appreciate your posts. You help keep a lot of this in perspective and keep both sides honest.

But, hey, what do I know? I'm just a puffed up pile of sugar that supports Obama.

If yer after gettin the honey, then you don't go killing all the bees.

by Fluffy Puff Marshmallow on Wed May 14, 2008 at 10:31:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (none / 0)

Sorry man, I just got done looking at the edwards clip that somebody drudged up and posted. I guess I was a little sensitive on the subject. My bad!

by Djo on Wed May 14, 2008 at 10:57:46 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (none / 0)

No worries. I am thick skinned.

After that stint on American Idol, I am iron.

by reggie44pride on Thu May 15, 2008 at 01:36:10 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (1.00 / 1)

of the hair club for men?

:-D

by reggie44pride on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:03:20 PM EST
[ Parent ]

oh yes (2.00 / 3)

that is OUR John Edwards! This is the person that SHOULD BE President!

John Edwards is the ONLY one to truly speak the truth about what needs to be done and how he was going to do it!

Listen to his words as compared to Richardson, Kerry, etc. This man is the real deal!

Washington Woman

Progressive Blue

by kevin22262 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:01:41 PM EST

Re: oh yes (none / 0)

That is why it is kind of sad for him to be jumping on the bandwagon of someone who is far less deserving than he. Oh well, politics is politics I guess.

by JustJennifer on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:06:20 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: oh yes (none / 0)

Golly gee. What a Debbie Downer.

by Rationalisto on Wed May 14, 2008 at 08:54:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (none / 0)

Obama's got the flag pin today.

Obama/Warner 2008

by MissVA on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:02:17 PM EST

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (none / 0)

Hitting the health care topic right away

McCain = Iraq. John McCain = overturn Roe.

by PantsB on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:02:21 PM EST

re (none / 0)

Nope Elizabeth ain't there

by rossinatl on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:02:23 PM EST

are those VP chants I hear? (none / 0)

interesting...

John McCain wants to stay in Iraq for a century.

by jkfp2004 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:03:00 PM EST

Re: are those VP chants I hear? (1.00 / 2)

Edwards was a loser in 2004, and a loser again in 2008.

He was my candidate, but time to pick someone new.

by reggie44pride on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:04:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]

That would be too weird (none / 0)

Maybe it's just me, but I think seeing Edwards as VP again would freak me out.

"Mom, baseball, apple pie, and a unified Democratic juggernaut."

by Purplepeople on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:13:53 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (2.00 / 2)

Obama's looking so smart.

Obama/Warner 2008

by MissVA on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:04:10 PM EST

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (2.00 / 5)

Lou Dobbs is a douche.

Yawn.

by spacemanspiff on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:04:29 PM EST

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (2.00 / 4)

Also, a racist.

McCain = Iraq. John McCain = overturn Roe.

by PantsB on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:04:57 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (2.00 / 3)

Slamming the Democrats.

Biggest tool on TV.

Yawn.

by spacemanspiff on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:07:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (2.00 / 2)

Totally. Dobbs makes me punch pillows.

I'm as strong as a bull moose, and you can use me to the limit. - Teddy Roosevelt

by fogiv on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:13:05 PM EST
[ Parent ]

He may be worse than Buchanan (2.00 / 3)

..but that's a hard call...

("Would you like to have your teeth smashed out with a hammer, or with an ice-pick?")

Gosh, the choices...

Motley Moose: Progress Through Politics

by chrisblask on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:13:34 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: He may be worse than Buchanan (2.00 / 1)

Dobbs is worse. Pat's a xenophobic ass too, but he's a little like the crazy, embarrassing uncle every family has hidden away.

Plus, it's endlessly entertaining the way he holds the invisible grapefruit out in front of him when he talks, or checks his crotch area for notes.

I'd probably miss him if he were gone. I hope he sticks around awhile, if for nothing else but to be a punching bag for Rachael Maddow.

;)

I'm as strong as a bull moose, and you can use me to the limit. - Teddy Roosevelt

by fogiv on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:19:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (2.00 / 2)

Based on John Edwards' speech about HRC, it is obvious who he should have endorsed.

by observer11 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:10:33 PM EST

Another fainter? (none / 0)

That used to happen a bunch and some people thought it was staged.

by elrod on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:11:01 PM EST

Did you see... (none / 0)

... the way he threw that water?

Welcome to the future.

by Please on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:11:02 PM EST

I just can't agree with him (2.00 / 7)

But ah, this is a great country - able to withstand the MINOR differences between Democratic Party candidates - in contrast to the chasm between the Republicans and Democrats.

We will unite - but not tonight! Tonight I will do several stanzas of "Piss and Moan", think of the song about strong women, think of other women who have made this country what it is, think of Hillary and all her capabilities. I stand in amazement - I have no guts, no intestinal fortitude anywhere in my body that resembles hers. Bravo Hillary!

In the spirit of unity, I also offer congratulations to Obama.

by Southern Mouth on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:12:48 PM EST

:~) Give it all you got! (none / 0)

Of course I'm videotaping the thing, but I know what I would do in your position...

You can burn a picture of me while yer at it. I don't mind.

-chris

Motley Moose: Progress Through Politics

by chrisblask on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:15:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: I just can't agree with him (none / 0)

I would so love to give you mojo, but I lost my abilites recently. Not sure why.

Capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my uncle Jack off a horse..." and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse..."

by igottheblues on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:39:49 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (2.00 / 5)

It brought me to tears..........
........to hear John Edwards' endorsement, and to realize this is really happening......Barack Obama will be our nominee and our next President.

What an historical moment to experience!

Obama/Warner 2008

by MissVA on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:13:02 PM EST

what a traitor to me (1.50 / 2)

I'm sorry but she just had a blow out and Edwards is coming along and stomping on her parade.

I don't think for 2 seconds Obama magically adopted any of Edwards policies..

that was a pure political stomping.

Shame on him frankly.

NoSlaves.com | The Economic Populist

by Robert Oak on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:13:27 PM EST

"traitor" talk? (1.75 / 4)

take your rightwing talking points elsewhere

by Slim Tyranny on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:17:36 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: what a traitor to me (2.00 / 1)

Robert,

We are friends... so, I'll be nice...

The fact is, Obama was being very nice to Hillary... He gave her WV without any fight... it was a gift... How did she repay his gift? "Oh, I'm in it 'til the end.. I'm going to fight even harder against you, Barack."

So, no more Mr. Nice Guy. She had her chance, now Obama has to play hardball.

"This was never part of our arrangement, Specter" "I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!" "This deal keeps getting worse all the time!"

by LordMike on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:48:21 PM EST
[ Parent ]

no gift (none / 0)

Not at all, he poured money into the area and did campaign. I'm sorry, I think the treatment of Hillary Clinton is horrific, I think this is obvious timing and on top of it, she has the better positions, bottom line.

NoSlaves.com | The Economic Populist

by Robert Oak on Wed May 14, 2008 at 08:18:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: no gift (none / 0)

And I think her treatment of Obama is horrific... absolutely horrible! She has belittled him since the beginning, while he has always given her respect and deferred to her strengths. He put some money in WV, yes, but he only visited once... he was throwing a softball to Hillary for her to hit it out of the park and go out with a winning note.... and yes, the Edwards thing is obvious timing... the press wanted to bring up the dead horse that has been her campaign since February... Her campaign was pushing for a convention floor fight... Since she won't give up, neither will he...

She may have the better positions, but with her recent embrace of right wing talking points and endorsements by Pat Buchannan and Fox News post February, I don't see how any of her policies would ever see the light of day. She doesn't want to appear "leftist" anymore... In fact, I think she likes being the conservative. If she were to win the nomination, I'd bet she'd probably run to the right of John McCain and call him a flip flopping liberal!

I don't know where she stands anymore... She keeps changing her persona, stances on the issues... who is she? Her campaign keeps changing its message every week... I don't trust her... not in a nefarious way, but I just don't know what she stands for anymore... it keeps changing day by day...

"This was never part of our arrangement, Specter" "I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!" "This deal keeps getting worse all the time!"

by LordMike on Wed May 14, 2008 at 09:27:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Lord Mike (1.00 / 2)

you are a Hillary hater and probably, Im sorry to say, a misogynist. I've explained many times the positions and you don't want to hear it, you are just interested in hating Hillary and at this point I am truly disgusted by misogyny that I see on the blogs. I'm not kidding.

NoSlaves.com | The Economic Populist

by Robert Oak on Thu May 15, 2008 at 03:16:50 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Lord Mike (none / 0)

A misogynist? Really? How so?

Yes, I don't like Hillary... I don't like what her husband did to the party in the 90's. I don't like her sense of entitlement. I don't like that she validated Fox News. I don't like that she kneecapped other democrats. I don't like that she not only smeared Obama, but even Edwards early on using right wing framing (attacking him as a trial lawyer ). I don't like her running a republican-style campaign. I don't like her war vote. I don't like that she doesn't acknowledge progressives.

I don't like a lot of things, but ABSOLUTELY NONE of them relate to her gender. In fact, a year ago, I was a supporter of hers. I defended her vociferously at dKos. She's the one who lost me. And she lost me when she threw the kitchen sink. Then I started to realize why her negatives were so high... She's earned them. As time has gone on, I've really been disappointed in her campaign. It's excluded people like us. She doesn't WANT my vote, and she's made that very clear. I'm too educated, in her campaign's mind, to matter. Since she doesn't want my support, I'm not going to pretend to give it.

A lot of the stuff we talked about in regards to trade occurred after WI... when the nomination was effectively over. I had a tough call to make in OH. I took a chance at the new guy, 'cos he had essentially already won... I fully admit that I may have backed the wrong horse in regards to trade, but I made that choice and I'm all in. I have to be. If we lose the netroots will be purged by the DLC'ers... I'm taking a chance... but, I think it's chance worth taking... I think this guy is a realignment candidate that could give us another decade of total democratic rule. I'm willing to take a chance on the people powered candidate.

The race has been over for several months, now... the media has made it seem otherwise, but the fact is, the party needs to come together... and I think this guy can lead us to great things... I really do!

I know you are frustrated, Robert, and concerned.... I am, too. I'm taking a chance, just as you are, but I think that it's the right choice... (just as you do)... Let's stay civil. We still have a lot of jobs to fight for. A larger congressional and senate majority will help us reach that goal. We can at least agree on that, can't we? I hope so.

Peace,

Mike

"This was never part of our arrangement, Specter" "I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!" "This deal keeps getting worse all the time!"

by LordMike on Thu May 15, 2008 at 03:49:36 AM EST
[ Parent ]

you are (none / 0)

Because I've pointed out repeatedly that Hillary isn't Bill, her votes her legislation, per position statements her plans are more Progressive and Populist than Obama's and as you know obviously I dig deep and am highly critical as well.
Yet time after time, all you go and do is continue to post these lies and smears.

You're not alone, the misogyny against Clinton is astounding.

NoSlaves.com | The Economic Populist

by Robert Oak on Thu May 15, 2008 at 12:05:09 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: you are (none / 0)

Hillary claims her first lady experience counts, so I take her at her word. She's not running a progressive campaign. How can I trust that her policies are more progressive when they are praised by the likes of Fox News?

And how is ANY of this sexism? It has NOTHING to do with her gender.... nothing! I'd be saying the same thing if Joe Biden were in second place and doing the same things, and I'd be just as mad about it.

Are you actually saying that 'cos Hillary is a woman, I should approve of her surrogates going on Fox News day after day, of her meeting with Richard Scaife? That I should approve of her campaign tactics? I don't get what you are trying to say!

I know we've talked policy, but I'm talking campaigning. She's run a horrible campaign and one that does not inspire my trust, especially when she keeps changing the rules every two minutes. How you relate that to her gender, I don't know. I relate it to her being a sore loser... which is, again, nothing to do with her gender at all...

The general charges of sexism by Hillary supporters have no foundation. Unless you believe that Hillary should get special treatment (which she has, BTW, anyone else would have been declared the official loser long ago). Asking for favorable or special treatment for a candidate who certainly can stand up on her own is certainly not inline with feminist ideals. I know. I married one. She supports Obama and is very disappointed in Hillary. Is she a sexist, too?

These accusations have no basis in fact, only projections of your disappointment. Please stop, Robert. The idea that you are somehow contractually required to support a candidate based on gender or be labeled a sexist is fundamentally wrong.

"This was never part of our arrangement, Specter" "I am altering the deal! Pray I don't alter it any further!" "This deal keeps getting worse all the time!"

by LordMike on Thu May 15, 2008 at 01:02:56 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re:It's politics. (2.00 / 2)

And let's face it, it was a smart move. Somebody in the Obama camp knows what they're doing. They've run an outstanding campaign.

by half nelson on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:52:22 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Axelrod (none / 0)

I've been saying for some time, Axelrod makes Karl Rove look like a 2 year old in a sandbox.

But, I just don't like these kind of politics, but they win every time. I find these people frightening with their media manipulation, spin and so on.

NoSlaves.com | The Economic Populist

by Robert Oak on Thu May 15, 2008 at 03:18:35 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: I understand. (2.00 / 1)

I think we can safely put to rest the notion that there's something "new" and unique here. This is just the old politics, repackaged.

by half nelson on Thu May 15, 2008 at 09:11:52 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: what a traitor to me (1.50 / 2)

I hate to break it to you folks, but it's been obvious for a long time that Obama was going to be the nominee. If this was purely political he would have endorsed before North Carolina.

It's a move for unity.

by Jordache on Wed May 14, 2008 at 08:04:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Is Hillary toast? (1.50 / 2)

by Nobama on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:13:28 PM EST

Re: Is Hillary toast? (none / 0)

Somebody better call you a ....

WHAAAAAAAAMBULANCE!

Yawn.

by spacemanspiff on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:17:43 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Ah, the new politcs. Love it. (2.00 / 1)

by half nelson on Wed May 14, 2008 at 08:02:02 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Was it just me.... (none / 0)

or was it "V.P." that the crowd was chanting after Edwards finished?

In any case, great speech from Edwards...and crappy follow-up by Lou Dobbs. What a tool.

Wouldn't it be nice if there were no rhetorical questions?

by Elsinora on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:22:39 PM EST

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (2.00 / 1)

Update [2008-5-14 18:54:0 by Josh Orton]: Apologies for stating the obvious, but noticeably not on stage: Elizabeth Edwards.

Apologies for stating the obvious, but noticeably not on the front page of this blog: Jerome Armstrong.

by 08AMA on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:24:37 PM EST

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (2.00 / 1)

Anyone watching MSNBC?

Pat Buchannan has gone absolute beserker. Comedy gold.

I'm as strong as a bull moose, and you can use me to the limit. - Teddy Roosevelt

by fogiv on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:24:52 PM EST

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (2.00 / 2)

He has. I am laghing my ass off.

Path just said, " The Chris Mathews of the world" to Chris Mathews.

Pat is losing it. Big time.

Yawn.

by spacemanspiff on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:29:31 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (2.00 / 2)

I'm eating and typing. Typo City! lol!

Yawn.

by spacemanspiff on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:30:32 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (none / 0)

no worries. I'm having same problem with one eye on laptop and the other on the TV.

I'm as strong as a bull moose, and you can use me to the limit. - Teddy Roosevelt

by fogiv on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:34:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Buchanan has to go (none / 0)

Seeing this Anti-MLK fascist scum comment on Democrat primaries makes my skin crawl.

Who'll chip in for a plane ticket for me to go kick his ass?

-chris "already packing" blask

Motley Moose: Progress Through Politics

by chrisblask on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:24:57 PM EST

Re: Buchanan has to go (none / 0)

Fuck, I'm gonna beat the shit out of my TV right now listening to that shitwad Buchanan spout.

"The dream of Martin Luther King..." you fuck??? You, Mr. Buchanan, told Nixon not to visit the "widow King" on the first anniversary of his assassination. King was the most "despised and divisive person in America, right, Pat?

Pardon my french but I want to strangle that fat bastard right now. My step-dad knew Dr. King, you shit, and you aren't worthy to speak the names of either of them.

miserableshiteatingbottomgrubbing....... ..

-chris "time for a new keyboard" blask

Motley Moose: Progress Through Politics

by chrisblask on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:31:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Buchanan has to go (none / 0)

TIVO dude, TIVO. Was on time delay. Everytime the Patster started spouting, just ffwd on thru to Tweety. Which kind of raises the question, ummm, why am I watching Tweety?

If yer after gettin the honey, then you don't go killing all the bees.

by Fluffy Puff Marshmallow on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:37:32 PM EST
[ Parent ]

:~) TIVO Challenged atm... (none / 0)

That's what happens when you're too hooked on the live stream...

TIVO inside. In florida we tend to spend all our 'spare' time in the lanai (backyard screened porch thingy) eating, watching tube and talking. Having just moved (six months already?) from Dorset "it snowed April 30" Canada, I'm still a little gaga about the whole thing...

-chris

Motley Moose: Progress Through Politics

by chrisblask on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:55:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Buchanan has to go (none / 0)

Not worth it. Buchanan: irrelevant as ever, but with more dark hair!

by haystax calhoun on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:57:58 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Buchanan has to go (none / 0)

he completely nuts!

I'm as strong as a bull moose, and you can use me to the limit. - Teddy Roosevelt

by fogiv on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:32:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]

I'm an Obama supporter (2.00 / 2)

but I thought the endorsement was lame. he should have talked more about all of us coming together, about how Obama was the right candidate for the working class, and about Obama's qualifications. Instead he just gave his stump speech. Lame.

Much lamer however was the Obama supporters booing his gracious words about Hillary. Come on people, get a fucking clue. I don't care how much you have grown to despise her or whatever, that is just plain classless and also it's shooting ourselves in the foot. We need Hillary supporters to unify with us and being sore winners is even uglier than being sore losers.

by snaktime on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:25:36 PM EST

Re: I'm an Obama supporter (none / 0)

Agreed about Edwards' speech. Never cared for the guy myself, and I got real tired of his stump. But his endorsement cannot hurt. It can only help.

by 08AMA on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:28:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (none / 0)

I sensed that JRE had the fire in him to go out there and do it all again. He loved the stage and he obviously missed it.

Obama/Warner 2008

by MissVA on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:26:46 PM EST

I just read Edwards' speech and he was (2.00 / 1)

very very very gracious. At some point, i thought i was reading the wrong speech or maybe the headline was wrong and Edwards was endorsing Hillary.

A very gracious speech and a good endorsement. Maybe if he campaigns with Obama he can sell him to working class folks with whom Obama is having a very tough time and without whom he won't win.

I also think that Edwards has his time as a VP and i don't think he will make a good one to be honest with you.

If Obama has to pick someone from the democratic primaries, why would he pick someone who won only about 10% (maybe even less) of votes instead of someone who won 49%? If Senator Obama has to pick one of the democratic candidate from primaries so he does not have to introduce him to the American people, he has to pick Senator Clinton. I still believe that an Obama/Clinton is a unbeatable ticket and it would garner about 340 EV at least.

by likelihood zero on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:28:30 PM EST

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (none / 0)

being sore winners is even uglier than being sore losers.

I cannot agree with you more!

I thought the endorsement was lame. he should have talked more about all of us coming together, about how Obama was the right candidate for the working class, and about Obama's qualifications. Instead he just gave his stump speech. Lame.

This is precisely why I found it ironic while he endorsed Obama, his short speech about Hillary Clinton is far more substantive (about HRC's quality as a leader) than anything he said about BO. Lame indeed. People who were booing should realize that what they were doing is against everything BO had talked about. Lamer indeed.

by observer11 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:33:09 PM EST

Elizabeth Edwards (2.00 / 1)

Apologies for stating the obvious, but noticeably not on stage: Elizabeth Edwards.

What's the point? She's an adult, she gets to endorse whomever she wants, or nobody at all.

by joeldanwalls on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:33:15 PM EST

Elizabeth Edwards (none / 0)

Apologies for stating the obvious, but noticeably not on stage: Elizabeth Edwards.

What's the point? She's an adult, she gets to endorse whomever she wants, or nobody at all.

by joeldanwalls on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:33:36 PM EST

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (none / 0)

Michigan loves Obama.

Obama/Warner 2008

by MissVA on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:34:53 PM EST

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech (none / 0)

Michigan loves Obama.

Obama/Warner 2008

by MissVA on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:35:37 PM EST

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (2.00 / 2)

MSNBC has got to get rid of Pat Buchanan. Pundits are pundits and I don't want them all to agree with me but he is nothing but a Republican shill. They need to retire him. I'm so sick of watching him go along with the right-wing game of acting like they love Hillary Clinton...such bullshit.

by EJChamberlin on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:38:54 PM EST

Too little, too late, too fake. (none / 0)

Yes She Will!

by alright on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:40:22 PM EST

Re: Too little, too late, too fake. (none / 0)

heh. funny.

I'm as strong as a bull moose, and you can use me to the limit. - Teddy Roosevelt

by fogiv on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:58:47 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards (none / 0)

This spoils everything. I had a GREAT joke about "CSI/WV" and dental records and DNA, but now there's just no use in telling it...

Thanks, John. thanks a whole lot!

by xdem on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:41:25 PM EST

OBAMA 08 (2.00 / 1)

Thanks John now we have a chance in Kentucky.

Maryland Democrat

by jproctor on Wed May 14, 2008 at 08:00:28 PM EST

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (2.00 / 1)

how desperate obama people should be that they trying to distract from WV disaster?

The disaster of WV has nothing to do with impeding Obama's candidacy. It has to do with ugly, hateful ignorance. This, below, is what you guys are championing and identifying yourselves and your candidate with:

McCain housing policy shaped by lobbyist.

by obsessed on Wed May 14, 2008 at 08:08:17 PM EST

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (2.00 / 1)

That's scary. and sad...

I'm as strong as a bull moose, and you can use me to the limit. - Teddy Roosevelt

by fogiv on Wed May 14, 2008 at 08:36:47 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (none / 0)

Fascinating video. Thanks for that.

Obviously, ignorance and racism didn't motivate every West Virginian who voted for Hillary.

But to ignore their presence is to ignore a much larger issue. It's scary as hell to see lifelong "Democrats" so eager to move over to McCain because they're just "uncomfortable" with Obama.

"I am like a Rorschach test...even if people find me disappointing ultimately, they might gain something." -Barack Obama

by tastycakes on Wed May 14, 2008 at 11:05:26 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (none / 0)

John's speech was great as usual until one moment when he ruined everything he said and made me disbelieve IMMDIDEATELY.

Is that a typo? Did you mean IMANIDIOTLY?

McCain housing policy shaped by lobbyist.

by obsessed on Wed May 14, 2008 at 08:10:19 PM EST

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (none / 0)

In all seriousness, I'm here and frankly I like Obama AND Hillary, although in the end I chose Obama. I have to say, it's really odd to see a democrat not just critical but downright hateful of a candidate that's part of our party. I hope for your sake that you'll take some time to put things in perspective and perhaps take some time off to cool off. This stuff? Not helpful and not healthy.

Just, IMHO.

Obama 2008!

by lollydee on Wed May 14, 2008 at 08:18:04 PM EST
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I take it back (none / 0)

Whoa. I can't believe some of the stuff I'm reading.

Obama 2008!

by lollydee on Wed May 14, 2008 at 08:42:27 PM EST
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Re: The Booing (2.00 / 2)

I was there. Most of it was coming from the people closest to the stage. There was some cheering for Clinton too. It wasn't as bad as it sounds in the video. It certainly wasn't all 12,000 people there so take it easy on 'Grand Rapids.'

by TooFolkGR on Wed May 14, 2008 at 08:21:58 PM EST

"You lucky, lucky bastard!" (2.00 / 2)

Was it fun?

-chris

Motley Moose: Progress Through Politics

by chrisblask on Wed May 14, 2008 at 08:32:24 PM EST
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It Was Amazing (2.00 / 2)

I was on the main floor about 20 feet to the left of all the cameras, about fifty feet away from the podium. The crowd was electric. The mixed booing of Clinton was the low point, but overall two GREAT speeches... it really felt like a turning point in the campaign.

Obama proved to me why I support him. A big part of it is that he's classier than most of the people who advocate for him at dKos all day long.

by TooFolkGR on Wed May 14, 2008 at 08:40:37 PM EST
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Jealousy (2.00 / 1)

Overwhelms me right now. Congrats to you on seeing history being made.

Obama 2008!

by lollydee on Wed May 14, 2008 at 08:44:51 PM EST
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Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (none / 0)

Translation:

"Edwards didn't endorse my candidate, so he's completely and utterly different from the Edwards I supported prior to him giving his endorsement to the other candidate."

Users who are excessively bashing the Democratic Party, or being Republican trolls, will be banned.

by Massadonious on Wed May 14, 2008 at 08:25:31 PM EST

Re: John Edwards Endorsement Speech Thread (none / 0)

Err, this should be a reply to a different diary. Please disregard. :P

Users who are excessively bashing the Democratic Party, or being Republican trolls, will be banned.

by Massadonious on Wed May 14, 2008 at 08:26:24 PM EST
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KO is picking on the 'Change you deserve" (2.00 / 1)

GOP slogan!

God that was good!

Motley Moose: Progress Through Politics

by chrisblask on Wed May 14, 2008 at 08:30:57 PM EST

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