Edwards to Endorse Obama

by Josh Orton, Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:20:47 PM EST

CNN confirms. Will likely be around 6:15-6:30ET tonight in Michigan.

Update [2008-5-14 18:4:24 by Josh Orton]: Looks like CNN will stream the endorsement rally here. Should start around 15 minutes from now. I'm told Edwards' plane just landed.

Update [2008-5-14 18:30:56 by Josh Orton]: Michigan Messenger is liveblogging the rally from the press area there.

Update [2008-5-14 18:38:41 by Todd Beeton]:Will be interesting to see how and whether John Edwards addresses the issue of his delegates. Will he ask them to support Barack Obama and will that then compel the Obama campaign to shift them to his column? Right now, without MI & FL, Edwards has 19 pledged delegates. That number goes up to 32 if MI & FL are fully seated. On CNN Jeffrey Toobin just suggested Edwards's delegates will put Obama within 100 votes of the nomination. Bill Schneider countered with confirmation that "they can vote any way they want. We're not going to put them in the Obama column right now, we'll call them first..."




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Edwards for Veep! (2.00 / 1)


by dystopianfuturetoday on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:21:40 PM EST

Re: Edwards for Veep! (2.00 / 1)

That would be my guess.

Good for Obama.


by souvarine on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:23:30 PM EST
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Re: Edwards for Veep! (none / 0)

I don't think so
Attorny general maybe...or what about a Supreme Court Justice?

Wow
what if Obama put Hillary and Edwards on the same court.
I know it won't happen.  But I would love it!


by gil44 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:26:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Edwards for Veep! (none / 0)

Yes, he's voiced interest in AG slot. I don't think he'll be the VP


"I'm all for the delegate battle, and now that Obama's campaign is too, I'm all giddy. It's going to be the supers as kingmaker." J.Armstrong 01/19/08
by obscurant on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:17:44 PM EST
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Neither has the chops (none / 0)

Neither has any constitutional law expertise, neither has been a judge.


McCain = Iraq. John McCain = overturn Roe.
by PantsB on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:17:49 PM EST
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Re: Neither has the chops (none / 0)

You don't need to have been a judge to be a great Supreme Court justice.  Historically political figures have made it on there and some have done well.  It's a good idea to have a justice or two who actually understand the political and legislative process from first-hand experience.

Chief Justice Warren comes to mind, but there are others.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:25:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Neither has the chops (none / 0)

You don't need to have been a judge to be a great Supreme Court justice.  Historically political figures have made it on there and some have done well.  It's a good idea to have a justice or two who actually understand the political and legislative process from first-hand experience.

Chief Justice Warren comes to mind, but there are others.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:25:37 PM EST
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Re: Edwards for Veep! (none / 0)

Really doubt Obama chooses the same guy who was VP nominee four years ago.


by snaktime on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:27:10 PM EST
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a VP who is proven Appalachian (none / 0)

vote getter....

John Murtha
Jay Rockefeller
James Webb
John Edwards
Robert Byrd


Rrrinnggg... Time to change the government.
by Carl Nyberg on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:01:00 PM EST
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Re: a VP who is proven Appalachian (none / 0)

John Murtha- no
Jay Rockefeller - no
James Webb - would be great if he would accept
John Edwards - no, already failed to do anything in 04
Robert Byrd - way way too old, has old dirt

Webb is on everyone's short list because of Virginia (WV is probably a lost cause) and because he reinforces his strengths (Iraq War opposition from the start, outsider/new politics) and gives foreign policy support and would reassure some rural whites.  


McCain = Iraq. John McCain = overturn Roe.
by PantsB on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:20:30 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: a VP who is proven Appalachian (none / 0)

YES to Jim Webb. Would be a great VP, perfect attack dog for McCain. Would definately make VA even more in play as well.


by politicalfan on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:51:31 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (2.00 / 1)

Well that's that.  Congratulations, Sen. Obama.  Hopefully Edwards got Obama to adopt Hillary's healthcare plan as part of the deal.


No politician ever lost an election because he underestimated the intelligence of the American public. - PT Barnum, paraphrased...
by jarhead5536 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:22:38 PM EST

Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (2.00 / 2)

Er, how about Edwards' health care plan, her plan was the primary reason I was against her....


by luckymortal on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:24:28 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (2.00 / 2)

Then why did Elizabeth prefer Hillary's plan?  John/Hillary was about the same, Hillary's just has a couple of additional steps on the path.


No politician ever lost an election because he underestimated the intelligence of the American public. - PT Barnum, paraphrased...
by jarhead5536 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:26:42 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (2.00 / 1)

We talk universal health care in the liberal blogosphere as it is a done deal come 2009.  In fact - none of their plans will pass filibuster-muster with 'MANDATES' as part of the equation.  Though I am in the minority, the non-mandated portion of Obama's plan is attractive to moderate REPUBS, and will help a Susan Collins or Arlen Specter with cover in their districts.  
Her plan is the most liberal, but the least malleable to Congressional politics.
'The only people for me are the mad ones, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing ...'
by stryan on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:32:57 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (none / 0)

Hence Hillary's more circuitous path.  She wants to take the time to build a political coalition, and wean the healthcare industry off all the money its choking on.  The political will to eliminate the insurance industry with the stroke of a pen does not yet exist, nor will it anytime soon.


No politician ever lost an election because he underestimated the intelligence of the American public. - PT Barnum, paraphrased...
by jarhead5536 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:40:31 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (none / 0)

... nor will it ever ...


'The only people for me are the mad ones, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing ...'
by stryan on Wed May 14, 2008 at 09:56:50 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (none / 0)

When did Elizabeth say she preferred HRC's plan?

I hope you're not refering to the debunked article from New York Magazine.


Unable to rec or rate Still supporting Obama
by astoria gooner on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:34:59 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (none / 0)

I saw her say that live, on TV.  She does prefer Senator Clinton's health care plan.  I don't, personally, but I don't mind disagreeing with her.

Not a big deal.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:26:51 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (none / 0)

I want to rec that comment ONE HUNDRED TIMES!!!!  Edwards would NOT endorse Obama without it.  I'll be praying over here...


by searchforsolidarity on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:35:18 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (2.00 / 2)

that's the final nails in her coffin. Most to all of his pledged delegates will transfer to her.

call her well done at this juncture. thank-goodness.


!
by alex100 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:23:01 PM EST

err (none / 0)

haha. transfer to HIM. not her.


!
by alex100 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:26:18 PM EST
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Re: err (2.00 / 2)

No, you were right the first time.

Dr. Freud, help him.


I proudly support Barack Obama for President!
by Zeitgeist9000 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:27:16 PM EST
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Re: err (2.00 / 2)

could be a prophetic slip-up


by moevaughn on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:28:24 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (2.00 / 2)

lol  We've heard this tired refrain since Iowa.


by Caldonia on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:29:52 PM EST
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So, I take it 2210 (2.00 / 1)

is when you expect her to become president.


by bookish on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:08:14 PM EST
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Re: So, I take it 2210 (none / 0)

I am sorry . . . but I had to say that I really did LOL when I read your comment.


NO 100 year WAR, NO McConnell run Senate, & NO GOP-led Supreme Court!!!
by Veteran75 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:34:10 PM EST
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Re: So, I take it 2210 (none / 0)

hahaha


by politicalfan on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:58:22 PM EST
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what does happen to Edwards' delegates (none / 0)

now?

Are they released to support any candidate?

Can he deliver his pledged delegates this way?


Rrrinnggg... Time to change the government.
by Carl Nyberg on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:03:23 PM EST
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Re: what does happen to Edwards' delegates (none / 0)

I think he can "direct" them, but as Hillary has tirelessly reminded us, delegates technically can do whatever they want.

On MSNBC right now, they're discussing exactly that, specifically the 18 from (lol) Florida.  It would be funny if they sat all the FL and MI delegates and that actually put Obama over the top!


by torrentprime on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:22:43 PM EST
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OK, I'm totally wrong (none / 0)

According to politico:
Pledged delegates aren't bound to their vote, so they can now switch to Obama -- as they will likely do, at Edwards' urging. But there's also nothing keeping them from choosing Clinton. As of now, their situation is analogous to that of superdelegates.

by torrentprime on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:49:43 PM EST
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Many of Edwards' delegates... (none / 0)

... have already committed, most of them (iirc) to Obama.


by Hudson on Wed May 14, 2008 at 09:05:23 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (none / 0)

eh, maybe if Edwards endorsed sooner, but now its just looks like he is going with the winner.

but I mean I guess everyone eventually needs to jump on the bandwagon, and Edwards himself doesn't think his endorsement isn't important.


Obama said, as Bill beamed. "Thank you, President Clinton."
by TruthMatters on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:23:02 PM EST

Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (2.00 / 3)

he does have 18 pledged delegates. this isn't just kind words that mean little.

Edwards has political might.


!
by alex100 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:24:32 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (2.00 / 1)

Edwards won one election with a bare plurality of the vote.

Mighty?

No.


I proudly support Barack Obama for President!
by Zeitgeist9000 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:25:58 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (none / 0)

What's mightier, The 18 delegates Edwards brings with him, or the handful that Clinton has won in the past month?


by haystax calhoun on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:38:35 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (2.00 / 1)

But he has 18 delegates that he can release to vote for Obama.  6 more than the net gain for HRC yesterday.

Master Stroke, with one endorsement the news cycle is changed and we are within 121 of the nomination.

Edwards for AG-Kick ass and take names


"You might well think that. I couldn't possibly comment"
by xenontab on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:38:36 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (none / 0)

I do think the timing was good because it changes the narrative but the endorsement itself isn't that big of a deal.  
Sec of Labor with an enhanced portfolio (say enforcement of new pension regulations?) sounds better to me but thats just me.  On the other hand I can't think of an equal candidate right now (Fitzgerald?)
McCain = Iraq. John McCain = overturn Roe.
by PantsB on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:33:25 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (none / 0)

It's still over, Jack. Just more over


If you are not voting Obama, please let me know so I can replace your sorry ass with another new voter.
by Darknesse on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:27:25 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (2.00 / 1)

18 dels equal to almost 4 WV!


Obama 08!
by comingawakening on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:43:35 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (2.00 / 2)

Plus his Florida delegates should they be seated.  Combined they almost negate Clinton's net gain in Florida.  It's over, even seating them according to the January results won't change the outcome.


by Skaje on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:54:20 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (2.00 / 2)

I think Edwards was genuinely dismayed at Hillary's comments about "hard working white voters".  I think that's when he turned.  

He will definitely help in Kentucky.


It profits a PUMA nothing to give their soul for the whole world... but for McCain? --Sir Thomas More (if he were here now)
by LordMike on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:29:09 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (none / 0)

I was thinking the same thing.  The first thing you've got to wonder is "okay, when did Edwards make the decision?"  Because any fool who sees how Obama operates knows that the campaign would tell him to hold off on his endorsement until the morning after West Virginia.


by Jordache on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:03:56 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (none / 0)

Come together, right now.  It's going to be a summer of love as we unite to beat McSame!


by howardpark on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:23:57 PM EST

Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (1.66 / 3)

Obviously, as a former Edwards supporter and currently an HRC supporter, I'm a little disappointed, but I'm not surprised.

Edwards is an opportunist.  Now is the opportune time to endorse Obama.  I'm over it.


No candidacy is more important than the right to vote.
by hornplayer on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:23:59 PM EST

Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (1.33 / 3)

Sour grapes.


We want to see Ivana [Trump] because we are so desperate in Alaska for any semblance of glamour and culture. - Sarah Palin
by spacemanspiff on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:25:02 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (2.00 / 2)

Honest assessment.  If you think I don't like John Edwards, or that there's a reason he didn't endorse until this last minute, you'd be wrong.

And I don't understand why Obama supporters get such gratification from this BS sniping at fellow Democrats.  It's sickening.


No candidacy is more important than the right to vote.
by hornplayer on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:27:39 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (2.00 / 4)

BS sniping? I'm not the one calling Edwards an opportunist.


We want to see Ivana [Trump] because we are so desperate in Alaska for any semblance of glamour and culture. - Sarah Palin
by spacemanspiff on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:29:52 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (none / 0)

It's not a flaw.  I knew John Edwards was an opportunist when I supported him in the '04 primary.  I knew he was an opportunist when he took the VP for John Kerry, whom he didn't get along with well.  It's the nature of any politician, and not a slur.


No candidacy is more important than the right to vote.
by hornplayer on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:34:04 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (2.00 / 2)

an opportunist definitely has a negative connotation thereby categorizing it as a "snipe at a fellow dem".

Otherwise, why did you say it?


Unable to rec or rate Still supporting Obama
by astoria gooner on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:37:47 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (none / 0)

I'm not going to argue with someone who is putting words in my mouth to directly contradict what I just said, thanks.


No candidacy is more important than the right to vote.
by hornplayer on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:40:21 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (none / 0)

Did you call him an opportunist or not?


Unable to rec or rate Still supporting Obama
by astoria gooner on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:45:40 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (none / 0)

btw I wasn't quoting you, I was putting a phrase in quotes.

If i quote you I will out it in blockquotes.


Unable to rec or rate Still supporting Obama
by astoria gooner on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:47:00 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (none / 0)

Look, I believe you that you didn't mean it as a negative, but that word absolutely is a negative in common parlance.

You can't get mad at him for taking what you said that way, given the context and the verbage.

No big deal, but he wasn't out of line.  Neither are your views - they were just inartfully expresses is all.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:31:08 PM EST
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"Opportunist" is most certainly (none / 0)

a pejorative.


by bookish on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:12:29 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (none / 0)

why do dems have to put each other down all the time?  

Edwards had his heart and soul working for us.  He lost. He was/is a great candidate and a wonderful man.  He and his wife are tops.  


by searchforsolidarity on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:37:55 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (none / 0)

Ouch. That's a little unfair to Edwards and Obama.... But I totally get it. I would have been just as upset if HRC was the nominee.


by luckymortal on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:26:44 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (none / 0)

I'm not trying to put anyone down here.  The clock's run out, and although Hillary has done pretty much as well as could have possibly been expected these last few months, it's not enough to overcome the swoon-effect this nation had for Barack Obama in February/March (barring unforeseen occurrences).  Things have changed since then, but the Democratic Party apparently lacks the mechanisms to correct this error, and has effectively tossed the candidate with the better chance to win in November to the side.

Edwards' endorsement at this point is meaningful far more as a way for him to help bring this process to a close and get on the Obama bandwagon at the last minute than it is any kind of statement about how John Edwards feels about the candidate.  I don't think that's sour grapes, I think it's looking at the situation, but I guess I'm incapable of having a legitimate perspective since I'm an HRC supporter...oh well.


No candidacy is more important than the right to vote.
by hornplayer on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:32:35 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (none / 0)

"apparently lacks the mechanisms to correct this error"

All due respect, but having voters prefer his message and his candidacy isn't an error on his part or their part.  It only becomes an error if we make two, as of yet, untestable assumptions:

1.  He will lose.
2.  She would win.

Neither is knowable or known at this point.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:32:46 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (none / 0)

Yeah, this is me too.  I like Edwards but I think his endorsement is pretty late in the game, and frankly now it looks like they are all working to shove her out before it is over.  If he is Obama's running mate it would really change my opinion of him in general.


by JustJennifer on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:26:45 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (none / 0)

You can(t have it both ways! If he endorsed Obama
earlier you would be saying what's the hurry?
by Politicalslave on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:00:27 PM EST
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Perhaps the message is (2.00 / 1)

the party needs to begin uniting behind a nominee, and Obama is likely going to be that nominee, so let's start prepping to do that in June.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:37:25 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (none / 0)

If Edwards was such an opportunist, he would have endorsed Obama long ago.  It's not like we're only figuring out today who the nominee is going to be.  We've known for over a long time.


by Jordache on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:20:11 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (none / 0)

So full of crap!

If Edwards would have endorsed Obama earlier, you would have bitched about how he should have stayed out of it and should not have reduced Clinton's chances in the primaries.  

He stayed out of until Clinton had ZERO chance of winning, and now you call him an opportunist!


by rf7777 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:34:23 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (none / 0)

If you thought Edwards would endorse Clinton you didn't understand Edwards.


John McCain on social security.
by heresjohnny on Wed May 14, 2008 at 08:47:28 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (2.00 / 2)

Nice. I wonder if the "great" Edwards will now be seen as a Judas by the Hillary supporters on this blog.

Jim Webb V.P.!!!


We want to see Ivana [Trump] because we are so desperate in Alaska for any semblance of glamour and culture. - Sarah Palin
by spacemanspiff on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:24:12 PM EST

Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (none / 0)

No.  I have always and will always be a John Edwards fan, I just didn't see how he could win so I went with Hillary.  Obama is going to be the nominee, and Edwards' signature issue, healthcare, needs to have the nominee's undivided attention.  If he was really trying to help Obama, he would have done this in March.  


No politician ever lost an election because he underestimated the intelligence of the American public. - PT Barnum, paraphrased...
by jarhead5536 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:32:26 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (2.00 / 1)

I disagree.  Edwards did not endorse until unity was required.  This goes for all the supers that you have seen unifying behind our nominee.


by haystax calhoun on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:36:57 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (none / 0)

He did it the day after West Virginia, as one HELL of a way to break the narrative, such as it was, about Obama's loss.

He did him a favor by waiting for the precisely correct moment.


by Reaper0Bot0 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:34:02 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (none / 0)


Why?  He's a moderate-conservative, part of the Southern/Midwestern Democratic establishment, and Left (rather than liberal).  He's in the half of the Party that is politically further to the Right.

That's the epitome of Obama support blocs, backroom helpers, and establishments.


by killjoy on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:10:17 PM EST
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I wonder what the 7% in WV think (none / 0)


I proudly support Barack Obama for President!
by Zeitgeist9000 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:24:38 PM EST

What will you think... (none / 0)

...when Hillary endorses Obama in June?


by JoeCoaster on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:29:49 PM EST
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Re: What will you think... (2.00 / 1)

I will think, "By Jove, he does make an excellent VP nominee, my dear Hillary!"


I proudly support Barack Obama for President!
by Zeitgeist9000 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:31:09 PM EST
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Re: What will you think... (2.00 / 1)

He can't be making an excellent VP if he's not making an excellent president. You can't have it both ways.


by Aris Katsaris on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:47:00 PM EST
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Dislike the attitude, but mojoed... (2.00 / 1)

b/c it's just too funny.


John McCain wants you to be poor!
by nklein on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:49:06 PM EST
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Re: What will you think... (2.00 / 1)

And then the nice man in white will bring you your meds.


by Capt America on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:51:35 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (2.00 / 1)

Great news along with Hillary's comments. With this party unified behind Obama, McCain is toast in November. He's hit his support ceiling already with no one campaigning against him. The Republican brand is toxic even in the deep South.

Good times are ahead!


by Reeves on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:25:22 PM EST

DREAM TEAM (2.00 / 18)






















"McSame: He's Constipated and Ready to GO!
by Al Rodgers on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:26:29 PM EST

Re: DREAM TEAM (2.00 / 5)

WOW, those pics make me think of John and Bobby Kennedy for some reason....NICE!


by kbuggy on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:29:36 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: DREAM TEAM (2.00 / 4)

It would be the best looking ticket in American history, no doubt...


John McCain
by Mandoliniment on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:33:50 PM EST
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Re: DREAM TEAM (1.00 / 2)

because that will make them such better leaders


"there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right in America"-William Jefferson Clinton, forty-second President of the United States
by DiamondJay on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:46:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Don't be bitter! (2.00 / 3)

Today is a good day for Democrats interested in unifying the party.


should we go outside? / should we break some bread? / are you'nterested?
by Firewall on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:48:13 PM EST
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Re: DREAM TEAM (2.00 / 3)

Wow. Just wow.
You're being wwaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyy tooo sensitive.
Unable to rec or rate Still supporting Obama
by astoria gooner on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:48:15 PM EST
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Re: DREAM TEAM (2.00 / 2)

Here, have a kitten:

Everybody loves kittens.


John McCain
by Mandoliniment on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:01:27 PM EST
[ Parent ]

You are right, (none / 0)

usually leaders that are confident in themselves inspire a confidence in others.  Now being  good looking and really intelligent would likely make a leader confident, I know from personal experience ("slap" - self high five).


Please don't associate moose with Palin, she likes to kill them.
by KLRinLA on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:46:02 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Line of the Day LMAO (none / 0)

"usually leaders that are confident in themselves inspire a confidence in others.  Now being  good looking and really intelligent would likely make a leader confident, I know from personal experience ("slap" - self high five)."

LMAO  I would mojo you if I could


PUMA: Particularly Undeveloped Mental Ability
by wellinformed on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:33:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]

They're tooo cute. (2.00 / 2)

This hetero male is kind of swooning over them.  Luckily they've got brains too.


by McNasty on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:49:29 PM EST
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Re: DREAM TEAM (2.00 / 2)

Did you see Dodd trying to hang in that one picture.  Obviously he was not a part of the conversation.  Poor Dodd.


John McCain isn't evil. He's just wrong about a lot of things. Vote Obama!
by proseandpromise on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:03:59 PM EST
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Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (2.00 / 1)

I'm interested to hear Jerome's take on this.  Didn't he say he was originally an Edwards supporter?


It profits a PUMA nothing to give their soul for the whole world... but for McCain? --Sir Thomas More (if he were here now)
by LordMike on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:27:13 PM EST

Re: Edwards to Endorse Obama (2.00 / 9)

I suspect it will take Jerome a few minutes to process his rage and discuss, and another few minutes figuring out how to word his response so that it argues that this endorsement helps Clinton.


by wasder on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:29:44 PM EST
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Spot on. n/t (none / 0)


by McNasty on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:50:22 PM EST
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You've got that spot on. You need to leave him time to cry after he processes it too.


by jadegirl on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:55:56 PM EST
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I meant rage and disgust...


by wasder on Wed May 14, 2008 at 09:19:37 PM EST
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I'm sure he will find a way to make this sound like a terrible development for Obama.  Haven't you heard?  We are all DOOMED if Obama wins the nomination.  :)

Also, I'm pretty sure the only candidate Jerome actually liked was Warner, who he worked for.  Edwards was just his first alternative.


by HSTruman on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:31:42 PM EST
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This is very good news and very well timed for Obama. I also wonder about the potential VP angle. I wonder if his presence on the losing ticket last time is giving anyone pause in the Obama camp?


by wasder on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:27:58 PM EST

Awww, what grand theater (2.00 / 2)

Well, I'm glad that Obama offered Edwards a deal that he could finally accept for his endorsement. Still don't think Edwards can plug Obama's hole that is now gaping after his thumpin' in West Virginia yesterday.


by grlpatriot on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:29:30 PM EST

Re: Awww, what grand theater (2.00 / 2)

lol!

More sour grapes!


We want to see Ivana [Trump] because we are so desperate in Alaska for any semblance of glamour and culture. - Sarah Palin
by spacemanspiff on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:31:00 PM EST
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Re: Awww, what grand theater (2.00 / 1)

no such hole. The WV race was below the fold. See how the superdelegates continue to align behind Obama?


by haystax calhoun on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:31:53 PM EST
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Almost landed!


by nwodtuhs on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:29:31 PM EST

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forgot the link:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N55AR


by nwodtuhs on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:29:58 PM EST
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Noooo. (1.42 / 7)

No flight information.  TexasDarlin or alegre might have a SAM.


Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win. ~ Sun Tzu
by Tumult on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:41:48 PM EST
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Re: Noooo. (none / 0)

OMFG.  Hilarious image.


Unseen, in the background, Fate was quietly slipping the lead into the boxing glove.
by fogiv on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:17:37 PM EST
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How odd to wait this long, with only a few primaries left.


by OrangeFur on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:31:58 PM EST

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It's called alignment and unity for the sake of the party.  


by haystax calhoun on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:34:43 PM EST
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All aboard!


by DeskHack on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:32:00 PM EST

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With this news I retire. Goodbye Mydd


by Hillarywillwin on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:33:44 PM EST

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So long and thanks for all the snark...


John McCain
by Mandoliniment on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:35:20 PM EST
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It was fun while it lasted, eh?  I was getting ready to leave this site until silly season was over, but it appears to have ended today.  People don't seem to realize that Edwards won a bunch of delegates in Florida too, if he directs them to vote for Obama even seating that state in full won't save Clinton.  Obama already won most of the uncommitted slate in Michigan.  Clinton has no trumps left.


by Skaje on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:57:40 PM EST
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Fantastic News.  It's more over than ever before.


by NewOaklandDem on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:34:54 PM EST

You're all missing the point here. (2.00 / 14)

This is smart, smart, politics by Obama. You've got to assume he had the Edwards endorsement in his pocket before N. Carolina, but he held onto it, not needing it in NC, but knowing he was going to lose big in WV. So he parcels out the Edwards endorsement the day after WV, utterly eating up the news cycle the day after Hillary's victory. Great patience. Smart tactics. So smart.


John McCain supports privatizing Social Security.
by Travis Stark on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:35:01 PM EST

Re: You're all missing the point here. (none / 0)

I don't understand how you could be so joyful over the manipulation implied in your statement.  I can't understand how someone like John Edwards, who allegedly detests those types of games, would play along with something like this.  


by JustJennifer on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:38:51 PM EST
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Re: You're all missing the point here. (none / 0)

How is this manipulation? What FACTS are being manipulated?

eh?


Unable to rec or rate Still supporting Obama
by astoria gooner on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:43:52 PM EST
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Re: You're all missing the point here. (none / 0)

Implying that Obama had the endorsement but saved it to trump Hillary's good press over her win in WVA is definitely an act of manipuation.


by JustJennifer on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:03:09 PM EST
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and Clinton (none / 0)

never did a damn thing like this before?

Please


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:07:58 PM EST
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Never said she didn't... but Obama is supposed to be for a new style of politics, right?  


by JustJennifer on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:14:51 PM EST
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"new politics" (none / 0)

is still politics and this is the type of thing you do to win.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:18:03 PM EST
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Re: "new politics" (none / 0)

So are you saying Obama will do or say anything to win?  LOL


by JustJennifer on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:42:00 PM EST
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So timing announcements is 'manipulation'? That's funny, when I look up 'manipulation' in your dictionary, I see: "Anything that doesn't help Hillary." Oh, wait, I guess a Democrat endorsing another Democrat *is* manipulation. (eyeroll) I suppose the superdelegate that endorsed Hillary today was also "manipulating" events?
by torrentprime on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:00:22 PM EST
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No, but if Edwards was endorsing Hillary right now instead of Obama what do you think his supporters would be saying about all of this right now?


by JustJennifer on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:07:31 PM EST
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IF IF IF (none / 0)

Nothing.

We're winning. The less said about her endorsements the better.


Unable to rec or rate Still supporting Obama
by astoria gooner on Thu May 15, 2008 at 01:38:41 PM EST
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Re: You're all missing the point here. (none / 0)

Umm. These are all politicians you know.


We want to see Ivana [Trump] because we are so desperate in Alaska for any semblance of glamour and culture. - Sarah Palin
by spacemanspiff on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:44:30 PM EST
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Are you kidding? (2.00 / 2)

With all the crap going on in this campaign you think the scheduling of endorsement announcements is bad somehow? Don't you think Obama's been scheduling the 5 or 6 a day that's been dribbling out? This is how it works. The endorser contacts the campaign and says I'm ready to endorse. How can I be the most help? And then the candidate and the endorser figure out how to make the most impact. Obama was always going to lose WV big, and so this was a brilliant time to schedule this announcement. Absolute political genius.


John McCain supports privatizing Social Security.
by Travis Stark on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:45:22 PM EST
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Re: Are you kidding? (none / 0)

In general what you say makes sense, but I don't think it makes sense in this particular instance -- I believe if Obama had Edwards support before e.g. Indiana, he'd have used it then, to tilt an extra few points to his favor.


by Aris Katsaris on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:51:17 PM EST
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2 or 3 net delegates in Indiana is nothing compared to winning the news cycle the day after Clinton sweeps (it's only one primary, but she didn't lose any to offset the spin).

Now the narrative shifts from "Clinton wins; could she stay in?" to "Obama/Edwards; West Virginia where?"


by Capt America on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:00:27 PM EST
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That sounds right.  He would have loved to have Edwards campaign for him back then.

This matters because it draws media coverage away from Clinton's WV win and because it's a clear signal that the tribe has spoken.  Edwards, for whatever reason, decided he wasn't going to take a side while the outcome was in doubt.  This is his signal that in his mind it's over.


by TL on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:01:36 PM EST
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Yes I agree Senator Obama has run an effective campaign against the Clintons


by Politicalslave on Wed May 14, 2008 at 07:25:49 PM EST
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Will be some nice speech making, wonder if we will get any policy shifts.


Victorious warriors win first and then go to war, while defeated warriors go to war first and then seek to win. ~ Sun Tzu
by Tumult on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:35:49 PM EST

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VP might well put NC in play...


John McCain
by Mandoliniment on Wed May 14, 2008 at 05:37:30 PM EST

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It didn't last time...


It profits a PUMA nothing to give their soul for the whole world... but for McCain? --Sir Thomas More (if he were here now)
by LordMike on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:06:19 PM EST
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Obama starts off considerably stronger in NC than Kerry was.


John McCain
by Mandoliniment on Wed May 14, 2008 at 06:25:28 PM EST
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