Clinton's Crushing Victory Enlightens Obama's Weaknesses

Hillary Clinton's overwhelming victory in West Virginia on Tuesday night, brings to light the significant problems that Barack Obama has with White Working Class and rural voters, not just in West Virginia, but across America in general.
Clinton Crushes Obama Across the Board
Results of West Virginia

There are many questions still unanswered by the Obama campaign as to why their candidate cannot close the deal on this nomination process. How can a "presumptive nominee" for all intents and purposes lose a primary in a major swing state by a humiliating 41%, and then boast about his prospects for winning a general election during a poorly worded speech in a conservative Missouri southeastern district on the eve of Clinton's smashing victory in West Virginia.
Obama in Missouri

There are many more questions that must be disturbing not only to voters but also to the superdelegates that will ultimately determine the nomination for either candidate. For instance, why can't Barack Obama connect with White working class individuals, especially Blue-Collar voters in those important swing states that any candidate would need in order to capture the White House. If Obama has any hope of winning over those voters than he will have to do a much better job of convincing them that he has their best interests at heart and will work hard for them every day.

Then there is the question of the demographics that make up particular regions of the country, especially in those all important rust belt states or swing states that could very well determine who our next president will be. Obama has a big problem with rural voters, possibly due to their distrust for an unknown candidate, but also because his recent comments towards "small-town" rural Americans were insulting, especially to those rural farming communities who "cling to guns" or attend church on a regular basis.
What the Exit Polls Say

Furthermore, Obama should be worried when exit polling is showing as it did recently in Pa, Indiana and West Virgina, that nearly 60% of Clinton's supporters will not vote for Obama in the Fall election, either voting for McCain or choosing to stay home on election day. Certainly these are troubling numbers for any candidate that will need their support in order to win on November 4th. Although some pundits and analysts will say that many of those defectors will come back to roost in the nest after the Democratic convention in late August, it is still discerning to consider the possibility that many will choose other options.
A Clear Rift in the Party

There is also the continued problem that exists with Rev.Wright. Early exit polling in West Virginia indicates that the controversial remarks made by Wright are still a factor for the Obama campaign. It is certain to be a continued factor raised by Republicans in the upcoming general election if Obama becomes the nominee.
Wright and Race are an Issue

It is now conceivable if not highly probable that Clinton will win the popular vote after the final tally is counted on June 3. Having erased most if not all of Obama's gains from the North Carolina primary in last evening's contest, she will now begin gaining on his overall popular vote margin, and will likely overtake his lead after the Puerto Rico Primary is completed. The Island primary which is scheduled for June 1, is reported to have more than 2.3 million registerd voters with at least 80% of those voters predicted to go to the polls. Clinton is favored to win that primary by a comfortable margin due to its overwhelming Hispanic and Catholic demographics, as well as Clinton's support among Puerto Ricans which make up a sizable voting block in New York. Hillary could very well come away with more than 500,000 more votes than Obama when all is said and done in that primary.
Why Puerto Rico Matters
Popular Vote Leads Directly to the Superdelegates

If Clinton should win the popular vote, and it now looks as if she will(exluding Michigan and/or Florida) it will be another valuable argument she can make to the superdelegates and party officials who are sitting on the fence until after June 3.  

Clinton's confidence is showing despite the media thrashing she endured over the past week, and the calls for her to quit. Her thumping of Obama in West Virginia indicates her strenghts and his weaknesses. Voters have sent a loud and clear statement that they want this race to continue and for every vote to be counted. Last nights primary results sent a message to the Obama campaign, as well as to their supporters, and especially the political pundits that it it very unwise to attack Clinton and denigrate her campaign, that it can cause voter backlash, as was evident in West Virginia.

Unwise to Attack Clinton

Clinton's continued persistence in spite of the odds to remain in the race, have overshadowed many of the gains made by the Obama campaign. She may be considered by some to be a thorn in Obama's side at this late juncture, but to many she is the candidate best poised to propel Obama into the White House. Without her help, his prospects are dim. To believe otherwise would be foolish and condescending.

It is safe to say that no candidate has won the White House without winning West Virginia since 1916, and the last Democrat to win that state not once but twice, was Bill Clinton. Hillary is by far the strongest candidate to go up against McCain not only in this region of the country, but in all of rural America.
So Goes West Virginia, So Goes The Nation

Next stop is Kentucky where Obama will face the same humiliation that he witnessed in West Virginia, which has to be embarrassing for the man who claims the label of "presumptive nominee." The candidate claiming the mantle of victory one week, but knocked down the next week in a major landslide, must explain himself to the American electorate. Obama if he expects to be the nominee which is still not his to claim, must act and demonstrate that he can win, even when the going gets tough. His lackluster performance in West Virginia and his willingness to write off a swing state as though it doesn't matter will only come back to haunt him in the end.
Kentucky, Another Clinton Landslide

Obama must soon come to a realization that the votes of all citizens are important if he hopes to win in November, and to overlook the wishes of those who don't support him can only lead to more trouble for him in his quest to be president. Being overconfident at this point in time, could cause a reversal of fortunes for the Obama campaign as the stakes are high and the road remains long and burdensome.

 


Poll
Can Obama Win the GE
No: White working class voters distrust him
No: Clinton Supporters will vote McCain or stay home
No: He is an unknown with too much baggage
No: America is not ready for a Black President
Yes: Nothng will stop him now

Votes: 24
Results : Vote Link : Polls

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Clinton's Failure (none / 0)


   to beat a political rookie only highlights her weaknesses, and why she'll get beat by McCain!!
by southernman on Wed May 14, 2008 at 12:56:56 PM EST

Re: Clinton's Failure (none / 0)

She won't get beat by McCain, actually.

She'll never have a chance to find out, b/c she won't be on the Dem ticket this Fall.


by Lawyerish on Wed May 14, 2008 at 01:00:14 PM EST
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Re: Clinton's Failure (none / 0)

Spot on.

1 million votes expected in Oregon. Obama romp is coming.


Obama/Warner 2008
by MissVA on Wed May 14, 2008 at 01:07:14 PM EST
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Re: Clinton's Failure (none / 0)

breaking 3 million votes expected in Puerto Rico. Hilary romp coming! Yes!


Steven Shaman Publisher Skywatch-Media News
by steve468 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 01:10:41 PM EST
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Steve (2.00 / 1)


   why did Hillary ignore so many of our citizens? All those states she ignored and dismissed Obama's wins as insignificant? You don't seem to have a problem with that. Kinda hypocritical.
by southernman on Wed May 14, 2008 at 12:59:44 PM EST

Re: Southernman (none / 0)

It is disheartening to hear Obama supporters souring over their humiliating loss last night, but facts do speak for themselves. It would be better for you and the others to read the stories and ponder the results before flaring up in your rage and disgust for Hillary remaining in the race, and wrecking havoc on poor Obama. It is rather he who is ignoring the citizens, as was evident in WV, a state he completely ignored and Kentucky another state he will dismiss next week. There is nothing hypocritical about reporting the facts, yet I know how you and the others would love to dismiss them as well. He even outspent her in WV, as has been the case all along, and still he can't defeat her. That says volumes about who Barack Obama is and why he cannot and will not win a GE.


Steven Shaman Publisher Skywatch-Media News
by steve468 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 01:08:57 PM EST
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Re: Southernman (none / 0)


  Hillary didn't show up in several states that Obama won. That's a fact. Yet, I don't see you criticizing Hillary. Drunk a little too much Kool-Aid have we?
by southernman on Wed May 14, 2008 at 01:10:43 PM EST
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Re: Southernman (none / 0)

I hereby propose that we suspend the use of the term "kool-aid" indefinitely.  By the way, I am an Obama supporter as well.


by the mollusk on Wed May 14, 2008 at 01:54:48 PM EST
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Re: Southernman (none / 0)

Anyone could have outspent hillary. She's 20 MILLION in debt, so your outsepent argument falls flat. As usual one must wear their tin foil hat to understand the arguments put forth by sky watch media. Spotted any UFO's recently?


by venician on Wed May 14, 2008 at 01:13:05 PM EST
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Healthcare Issue drives HUGE donations by industri (none / 0)

Its been shown in the past that whenever universal healthcare is on the ballot in any way shape or form, it
drives substantial donations
to its opponents. It was also shown as early as 1994 that the anti-universal healthcare forces were exceedingly skillful in funneling money to candidates without their names getting attached to it. (They realize that that being known hurts a candidates chances) In 1994, they backed a Tennessee congressman, Jim Cooper, who managed to float a proposal that allowed many influential conservatives to back a competing proposal (that then died as well) Now, Jim Cooper works for Obama and I think the same plan is going to get executed again. So, I think its understandable that Hillary is getting outspent by an opponent with a huge warchest.
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by architek on Wed May 14, 2008 at 02:47:33 PM EST
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Re: Southernman (none / 0)

Have you actually looked how much they spent in WV?
Half a million $.. COMBINDED! Nothing like PA were they both spent millions.

That actually should tell you something about the expectations and relevance of that state this late in the game


by standd on Wed May 14, 2008 at 01:27:55 PM EST
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Gimme a break (1.00 / 1)

there was nothing humiliating about Obama's loss last nite. West Virginia leads in every category used to measure poverty. A state that is very poor, very uneducated, very ill-informed, very old, and a high degree of illiterates. Those demographics vote overwhelmingly for Hillary. That's her base. That state is third in the nation with the percentage of houses that have incomplete plumbing for crying out loud. These are not latte.. or even dunkin donut coffee drinkers
we're talking about up in those mountains.

Do you really think the majority of those people knew anything about the issues anyway?


"Beauty, more than bitterness, makes the heart break." Sara Teasdale
by april34fff on Wed May 14, 2008 at 01:56:37 PM EST
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Re: Your Remarks are Dispicable (none / 0)

You have received a troll rating for your insensitive remarks. Take it up with the people of West Virginia, I'm sure they would love to tell you where to go! Even "dumb" people as you have referred to them, no the meaning of Up Yours!


Steven Shaman Publisher Skywatch-Media News
by steve468 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 04:23:32 PM EST
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By "Hillary's crushing victory," (2.00 / 2)

were you talking about Obama's humiliating defeat, chance?


That's it, baby; let's go win this election!
by Beltway Dem on Wed May 14, 2008 at 01:03:33 PM EST

Re: Clinton's Crushing Victory Enlightens (1.00 / 0)

It's the Electoral College map that elects presidents.  If Dems paid attention to that, Gore would be president, even Kerry.  Unfortunately, don't see an EC map that puts Barack in the White House.  


Purity! Or else!
by ChitownDenny on Wed May 14, 2008 at 01:10:16 PM EST

Hey, send an e-mail to the supers (none / 0)

they don't seem to have got the message...


by Fairy Tale on Wed May 14, 2008 at 01:14:17 PM EST
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She is going to use Puerto Rico to convince (none / 0)

the superdelegates? Wow, that's indeed an argument they are not going to be able to resist...


by Fairy Tale on Wed May 14, 2008 at 01:12:09 PM EST

Re: Clinton's Crushing Victory Enlightens Obama's (none / 0)

My final comment, as I have far more important matters then bickering with persnickety children. Your ludicrous outrage, far exceeds your common intellect. You may have your cake and eat it too, but the taste will be bitter when the story is finished and the results are made known. You have made your bed, so go lay in it. If you really believe you can win in November with only half of the democratic electorate, then I wish you the best for then miracles really do happen. With angels hovering over your candidate and trumpets sounding far and near, then how could it possibly be any different. Time will tell of course, until then I bid you adieu.


Steven Shaman Publisher Skywatch-Media News
by steve468 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 01:25:02 PM EST

Re: Clinton's Crushing Victory Enlightens Obama's (2.00 / 1)

And don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.


by venician on Wed May 14, 2008 at 01:34:53 PM EST
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Re: Clinton's Crushing Victory Enlightens Obama's (none / 0)

Are you really leaving, Steve?


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Wed May 14, 2008 at 01:39:09 PM EST
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Re: Clinton's Crushing Victory Enlightens Obama's (none / 0)

Not in your wildest dreams. Only from this diary, as I have many reports to get out today. Sorry to disappoint you. I will have more forthcoming after Kentucky and especially Puerto Rico. :)


Steven Shaman Publisher Skywatch-Media News
by steve468 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 01:56:15 PM EST
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You Phail. Dismally. (none / 0)

A noble effort, Steve, but an enormous truckload of phail nonetheless.

The good news is that Pat Buchanan is shouting a hearty "Amen!" You've stepped up into some rarified intellectual and analytical company there, Steve.

Just two Qs, since you have so much to teach us:

(1) WV was relevant in a general election when, exactly?

(2) If these HRC voters are leaving the D tent in droves and Obama will be limited to only half of self-IDed Dems in the general, then how on earth is he showing at just under 50 in GE trial heats right now? If your math were correct, should he not be in the low-30s? Hmm. Oh, that pesky math.  


by watchgeek868 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 02:17:28 PM EST

Re: No Rest for the Weary (none / 0)

I appreciate your philosophical comparison of my commentary and that of the highly regarded Pat Buchanan. It is an honor to be among the most noble and analytical minds of our time. But to reiterate for your less than attentive mind, there is no argument about the delegate math, it is the popular vote that is being discussed as an option that Hillary can use in her defense. And A good argument at that. As far as Hillary voters leaving the flock in November, that is yet to be determined, but the possibility of that occurring is quite real. Trusting in what national or state polling may show for the general at this early stage, is like a Yankee whistling Dixie while burning Atlanta, makes absolutely no sense and is meaningless.


Steven Shaman Publisher Skywatch-Media News
by steve468 on Wed May 14, 2008 at 02:56:03 PM EST
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