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The Bush Jr. of our party makes Frank Luntz so proud.

Oh come on, this is a front-page story?  Good lord.

Can't a candidate have a bit of a sense of humor?  And how in the world does posing as a joke for a couple seconds in an informal setting turn Obama into "our version of Bush"?

This is pretty much a new low for MyDD, sadly.

shot drinker and he's at the head of the class rather than bringing up the rear.

already saw that video once today, that's enough.

ugh.

Really running out of astute political commentary these days, aren't we?

His administration accomplished more neoconservative goals than could possibly be predicted.

So to answer your question, yes.

ps. he's the nominee, deal with it.

Jerome, when are you going to stop this?  Obama is most likely going to be our nominee, and I would really like to see him beat McCain.  Would you?  What do you plan to do to help our nominee win?

might want to cover that up once Obama is the nominee, for the sake of democracy

That's true, Obama really is just like W.  I mean, after all W was also raised by a single mom, got scholarships to the best schools, made his way to Harvard on his own merits, and then became the first african american to serve as head of the Harvard Law Review.  Before walking away from a guaranteed huge pay check to serve the community.  Yep, that's W all right.

Wait...

This diary disgusts me on so many levels.  I might as well be on Red State.

What's with this crap on the front page?  Some great diaries go down without anyone reading them, and you know this is going to get hundreds of comments.  Not sure about anyone's judgment these days I guess.  There's a whole diary with half the comments about Chapaquiddick.  There's this joke of a clip.  There're articles about the environment and criminal justice and the military that go down without a splash.  

I don't get it.

Do we really have to have to nominate our version of Bush?

Uncalled for.

Jerome, please elaborate with detail what you mean by this.

I assuming 20 different things.

Also, did I just hear you compare Obama and Bush?

Read this: http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/15/1427 30/254

I get the feeling that this is the post that's going to kill off whatever credibility you still had left as a serious commentator on American politics.

Totally.

attacking Jerome for this.  Pull the mote out of your own eye first.  It is the low brow way of the Obama supporters that destroyed reasonable progressive dialogue in the blogosphere.

In case you all need a primer - here you go

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/article s/2008/05/clinton_campaign_brought_sexis .html

At this point I think Jerome is literally trying to bail out a party that is about to hurl itself over a cliff with a weak nominee the year we should be trouncing the Republicans.  You think McCain's staff won't be using this video?

Jerome,

I have been a regular reader of MyDD for a long time. I am also an Obama supporter. Truth be told, for the most part I appreciate the fact that you and Todd and co. provide a perspective on the race that is not skewed by an overly idealistic view of Obama's candidacy.

But I have to be perfectly honest: I think your disdain for Obama has grown over the months to unreasonable proportions. I think it's the function of 1) what you perceive to be unfair attacks/criticisms/etc. on Hillary and 2) what you perceive to be unduly positive assessments of Obama and "the promise his candidacy holds."

Let's get real, though: "our version of Bush?"

Obama is not a dilettante. He is not a phony any more than Sen. Clinton is. They are more similar than they are different. He has a different organizational perspective and approach to politics in general (as in, she is more confrontational) and personal relations.

I think maybe you should revisit some of the core substantive things that drew you to Clinton in the first place. Perhaps make that a front page post: this is why I still believe this country needs Clinton. I know you outlined that rationale extensively a few months ago, but I think you are getting caught up in the process and losing your perspective.

Short of that, maybe just try to draw back a little and think--what would you say if Obama supporters were using similar issues (the jeans and a joking comment about flash) to criticize Clinton?

Sigh...
Whenever I hear their name I get a case of the weepies.  I haven't been the same since they closed up shop.

No one has succeeded in taking their place.

Comparing Obama to Bush?  I'd expect to see that in comments, but a FP?  Wow.

Is mydd still considered a top-tier progressive blog?  Maybe not.

words come to mind:

deluded. petty. small. paltry. meager. bereft. pointless. infantile. cheap.

you seem to have really, really run out of ideas.

Probably the same media trainer that coached him on this shot:

I can't wait!!!!

I got a "this video is no longer available"

Tense time. Lots of hot air around. Tempers flare. The party is combustible. They look for leadership...

One of the founders of the progressive net roots movement gets some cheap gasoline from youtube, a spark of an ad hominem attack and...

whoosh

Burns his own reputation.

Great stuff. Check out those Election Night Hillary supporter diaries where Obama supporters are congratulation Hillary supporters, and wonder whether you need to learn something from your own community.

Please ban me.  Thank you.

Have you noticed the childish ugly tone from the Hillary supporters that follows your every post?  Any guesses why that happpens?

Excuse me for saying this - but what the hell is wrong with you?

Obama was the editor of the Harvard Law Review. You have to be incredlbly smart and hard-working to hold that position. Normally the Editor gets a position right after law school working with a Supreme Court Justice. These are absolutely the best legal minds in the country.  And you're comparing him to Bush?

Junk sad diary. Grow up you whiner.

Why else would he post this damning diary.

I can't believe what I just heard, I hope this is Snark or some joke.

Maybe it is just for controversy just to make more hits or to bring peeps from other blogs here.

Maybe his account was hacked, I didn't think of that.

Read this: http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/15/1427 30/254

Bottom of Barrel, meet scraper. Scraper, say hello to the bottom of the barrel.

I don't think this diary, or this site, represent the best of what the Clinton campaign offered. Really, you guys are just pathetic right now. Try to lose with dignity, please. Your side ran a good race.

Heh, got all the Obama people's knickers in a twist Face it guys, those JFK/MLK/Lincoln/Jesus comparisons are made not begotten.

If you click on the About MyDD link on the bottom right of the page, here's the first sentence you'll find:

MyDD is a group blog designed to discuss campaigns, the progressive movement, and political power. We do polling, research, commentary, analysis, and activism.

A front page video post, supported by all of three full sentences--one of which compares the Democratic frontrunner to the worst POTUS in history--is somehow in keeping with what MyDD is supposed to be about?

What a joke you've become, Jerome.

I've avoided commenting on mydd for awhile (probably since Bowers left), but this is just over-the-top, Jerome.  It's being incendiary to remain relevant.

This diary really raises the question of MyDD's ability to be relevant should Obama become the democratic nominee.

There is No Way Jerome wrote this.

You can't tell someone who runs a blog and has been part of netroots for years would make a 3 line attack diary on his own site.

Either his account was hacked, or he lost his mind.

I mean, he broke his own rules with this diary.

Again, I can't beleive Jerome actually wrote this.

Read this: http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/15/1427 30/254

MyDD may have just jumped the shark with that one.

Comparing a non-blue dog democrat to Bush is like a subset of Godwin's law.  And that applies to Obama fans as well, for what its worth.

This is embarrassing. I'm sure you would be able to go run the show at RedState or LGF if the democratically elected nominee of the Democratic party is show disgusting to you, Jerome. What of those rumors that all this bitterness is because he wouldn't give you a job?

MyDD: A new low. Daily.

Well good job Jerome - you just lost a mydd reader. This was my favorite blog since Adam came to OH-1, but I'm done with you attacking the Democratic nominee.

I'll delete my account after posting this comment.

A new low. Even for this site.

Any more fashion tips?

cause i want that job.

It would be terrific if some of her supporters rallied around this being an ridiculous and inappropriate way of treating Obama, in the same way I would hope that if a similar piece on Hillary was presented, there would be Obama supporters of good will protesting it.  

Jerome is just a little behind the stages of grief....

Some here are in denial, i.e. "she STILL can win..."

Some are bargaining, "she can be VP?"

Jerome is seemingly in the anger phase, and as OR gets closer, he will probably even top this?

Really the kind of crap I expect on KOS against Clinton, but I guess it all evens out?

That this site isn't about getting a Democrat elected but rather driving up traffic with the sort of randomly mean things that get the attention of people off-site and which increase hits.

That this site isn't about being intelligent but being immature.

Where are the posts on the front page about tonight's special elections in Mississippi? Or the Kleeb primary in Nebraska?

Or half the things that an intelligent member would engage in rather than posting something I don't even understand.

What did Obama do that was so bad is what I don't get?

He twirled around? Did he say something? Or do something that makes him George W. Bush?

Last time I checked, people like to goof around. I lecture at a university but I still like goofing around.

I really don't understand this. I haven't been unfair to Senator Clinton when she does silly things - but you, someone who speaks for a site - has engaged in that.

I guess it's acceptable now to do that on this site.

Cool.

I'm not usually in the ---- Derangement Syndrome thing but I hereby nominate Jerome as the first once normal blogger who has come down with the dreaded ODS.  You should backup slowly from the keyboard and have a nice shot of whiskey.

You're going off the deep end Jerome.  Really losing it man, it's sad to see.  I know a lot of your readers here will hop on the Straight Talk express once Clinton concedes, but I'd hope that you at least would avoid joining them.

It's certainly easy to see where the nasty, dismissive, doomsday, condescending tone about Obama comes from on this site - right from the top.  

Jerome, I loved your book, but you've lost your marbles.

and appeal to superficial voters - NooooOoooooooOoooo. MUST BE ALL SERIOUS ALL THE TIME.

Your update is perhaps even more moronic than the original diary.  At least the original diary didn't pretend to be making a legitimate point.

Hey Jerome,

You own this sight right? You make money off of it I assume?

You just lost a loyal reader. This really sets the bar low, and you have really lost any credibility in my eyes. Commentary, criticism, etc are all valid, but this crap is deserving of a troll rating as far as I'm concerned. You can take your "our version of Bush" and shove it. You apparently have nothing of substance left to add to the debate.

Kiss my white working class ass.

RIP MYDD

This is not a diary becoming the supposed nature of this site.  Embarrassing.

I love that the update begins "Heh."  Pretty soon he'll be adding "indeed" and getting the linklove from Instapundit and Drudge.  

I'm outta here. There's not enough substance left to justify increasing Jerome's pagerank.

I've figured out based on this post what this site is going to be like for the next 8+ years.

Until the Convention - Clinton should be the nominee!!!  What if MI & FL would have counted!!!  Clinton would do better than Obama against McCain!!!  The SDs can switch anytime, there's still a chance!!!

After the Convention - Why isn't Obama doing this?  Why is he doing that?  Hillary would have done this and that better.  We're doomed in November with Obama!!  WHY? WHY? WHY?

After Obama is elected President until 2010 - Hillary would have done this better.  Hillary would done this.  Hillary's better!!!

Or After Obama loses to McCain because  thousands of Clinton supporters stay home - We told you so!!! We told you so!!!  McCain sucks.  He's running the economy into the ground, he's not getting us out of Iraq, he's not doing anything about global warming, he's appointed two more conservative supreme court justices.  But we told you so!!!!

Comparing Obama to arguably one of our worst Presidents is absolutely disgusting.  You should be ashamed of yourself.

Every Democrat should denounce and reject this diary!!!!

Jerome is obviously so proud of the intelligent discourse he just started Im sure he can't wait for the other blogs to see what the Site Admin is writing here.

I would like to see how other blogs view the brilliant discussion here.

Read this: http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/15/1427 30/254

Everyone relax.

Let Jerome get in his one liners, he only has a few more weeks to do it.  We can give him his last hurrah.

Oh, and when Obama officially wins the nomination, try your best not to throw it in his face.

   you've really lost it when it comes to this race.

  I swear, if Obama kissed his wife, you'd complain he was pandering to the family values crowd.

  Unbelievable!

I used to think this site was going down the toilet in spite of Jerome... now I think it's because of him. Seriously... he's our version of Bush because he does a bit of kidding around with the media?

I don't know if you realize this, Jerome, but presidential candidates need to ingratiate themselves to the reporters covering the campaign. Nothing worse then being followed by a bunch of people who hate you, whose job it is to tell everyone else what you are doing, saying and thinking.

You can bet your ass that McCain is running around trying to kiss some press behind. He invited them to his house for BBQ. It would be irresponsible of any candidate to not try to have some camaraderie with his press core. The fact that he's willing to show some humor, make fun of himself, and goof around with these people is a HUGE plus, and you're trying to spite him for it?

"it is what it is I'm afraid"

That line speaks volumes, Jerome, about you.  You posting this, and mocking Obama as similar to the vacuous Bush, certainly "is what it is."

You're like Jetblue Airlines: no class.

Yeah, Obama definitely gave Hillary the bird in this video.  What a childish jerk!  He knew what he was doing!

I watched the video 3 times and can't figure out why everyone is so pissed?

You hate him that much that anything he does brings out the hate even more?

Man, Jerome I loved Crashing the Gate and was inspired to become a PC in my district because of you and Markos. The day the nominee is selected that sign will be in my front yard and I'll be walking, and donating to the nominee.

But this crap doesn't become you or MyDD AT ALL! Obama is really so heinous a candidate that he needs to be destroyed?

I voted for Hillary in the AZ primary but she is losing the race and it's no one's fault but her own. She's the New England Patriots with all the talent and the cash to start and the guy who had the strategy and learned the lessons of Howard Dean and the failures of Penn, Shrum and the DLC is eating her lunch.

Blame the politicos in FL and MI for screwing with the primaries in a presidential election year. I think there should be a more equitable system of rotating primaries but let's work it out when there's a lot less at stake.

This video is grasping for straws and I expect more from this site.

Geez, chill out, everyone.

you are an ass.

Clearly this video proves that Obama is exactly the same as the guy who led the country into war based on lies.

Low Class Jerome.  I expect this crap from users on the site.  You are supposed to be a leader on the blogs and a leader in the progressive movement.... Yet you fail to act like it with crap like this.  YOU BLASTED the media and the republicans for saying and pulling this shit with Edwards then you give credence to this type of stupidity when you post crap like this.  

Quit acting like a petulant child, start acting like an adult and the progressive leader you are supposed to be.... not like a spoiled child who starts throwing a week long tantrum because he didn't get his way.

Waiting for Jerome to close comments, or even delete the diary.  This is an embarrassing post for him.

Also,

Let me be clear about something. This is an acceptable diary, but progressives discussing the reality of racism in this country -- an issue important to progressives for many decades -- is off limits?

Yuck.  We need some estrogen in the Whitehouse.

you are really trending towards Ben Smith territory,  is your dislike of Obama that strong that you are becoming a hack like he is?

want some input from noquarters?

"Michelle Obama needs to learn how to run her own house before angling for the White House. I guess hubby Obama is bored with Michelle."

"I know. Michelle Obama needs to learn to run her own house. Daddy is looking for some free press at Michelle's expense."

Sounds somehow strangely familiar...

This site is a now a joke. What a ridiculous smear post. All of a sudden I thought I was on Michellemalkin.com.

Have you lost your mind?  All I see is a homemade video of Obama talking on a cell phone.  No media, no preening.

Bye-Bye Jerome.  Good luck to Todd and Jonathan who are bloggers that I respect and who happen to be Democrats.  I can't imagine what the Clintons promised you but it must've been good.  

I stopped giving page hits to Taylor and I'm gonna stop giving them to you.  

by Lirwin2
'There is a word in Newspeak,' said Syme, 'I don't know whether you know it: duckspeak, to quack like a duck. It is one of those interesting words that have two contradictory meanings. Applied to an opponent, it is abuse, applied to someone you agree with, it is praise.' -1984

-When Barack Obama does it, it's reaching out, when Hillary does it it's pandering

-When Barack Obama does it, it's mis-speaking when Hillary does it it's lying

-When Barack Obama does it, it's bringing race to the forefront, when Hillary does it it's racist

-When Barack Obama does it, it's changing washington, when Hillary does it it's throwing long-time Dems under the bus

-When Barack Obama does it, it's because he's willing to work across the aisle, when Hillary does it it's because she's a conservative

You may now commence with the typical "Thoughtcrime against the party = death" crap that we've all come to expect from the nutroots these days.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/dis cuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum= 132&topic_id=5949984&mesg_id=594 9984

It seems when ever Jerome gets mad he starts restricting people witout any reason or warning.

Oh well, I am tired of being afraid of Jerome.

I see the trick in his "account restricting"

It allows him to keep getting hits and comment activity but keep his reclist pristine and to his agenda.

Read this: http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/15/1427 30/254

Another Bush trait: hubris.

Obama's supporters cannot understand how anyone could support Hillary and have no tolerance for it.

And btw, it's Obamans who need to get over her loss. They're pulling the Karl Rove "I don't want to just defeat them, I want to leave them bloodied" thing.

Gracious winning is a good thing.

Psst: telling someone to "grow the fuck up" seems contraObaman to me.

who will NEVER come to this site again.

where did they go?  You know there were rumors that it was Carville and Begalla running that site.

Funny.  I heard this was a progressive blog and that the commenters were actually people concerned about progressive politics.  

Turns out it is a website for poo-flingers.  Looks like I can leave now having wasted but a small amount of my time.

Yet another junk diary, except this is a front page one. Very sad indeed.

Man, Jerome, you really need to look in the mirror and question why your negative feelings are so personal? You really have stretched to interpret a totally innocuous 30 sec clip to being evidence of some serious parallel to Bush. You really need to take on some self-examination. I think you've been an awesome progressive leader but you're slipping.

Cynicism is a sorry kind of wisdom, Jerome.

Slow news day? A guy talking on a cell phone is news? And Obama=Bush? Get a grip.

Slow news day? A guy talking on a cell phone is news? And Obama=Bush? Get a grip.

Hey!

When Obama is called the equivalent of a "big fucking whore", THEN you can complain.

[crickets]

hillaryis44 and Taylor Marsh must be so proud.

This post is so incredibly lame.  I can't believe that an allegedly progressive blog would compare the Democratic Party's frontrunner for the nomination to the worst president in U.S. history and perhaps one of the stupidest humans alive.

If a similar post had been made about Clinton before today, I have no doubt that the diarist would have been banned.  But I guess rules only apply to the 'other guy'.  Both rules of the blog, and rules of the Democratic Party's nomination process.

Oh Mr. Shark -- you have been jumped.

Jerome,

your mia culpa is weaker than your orginial post.

Can someone help me figure out how to delete my account?

What am I missing? He's on his campaign plane making a phone call.

This is posted by a mod? Good lord, why don't the mods just quit pretending that this site is to promote the "democratic" party and start calling the intrapartisan garbage dump it's turning into.

And you guys think the rhetoric on Kos is in the gutter...