Everybody's favorite DINO

Jim Cooper, Obama's healthcare spokesperson's hit piece on Clinton was on the rec list on DailyKos. More info about Jim Cooper, Member of the "Blue Dog" Coalition of conservative Democrats.
  1. Banning partial-birth aborting - YES
  2. Constitutional Amendment banning same-sex marriage - YES
  3. Patriot Act Permanent - YES
  4. Constituonally deine marriage as one man, one woman - YES
  5. Prohib product misuse lawsuits on gun manufacturers - YES
  6. Prohibiting suing gunmakers and sellers for gun misuse - YES
  7. Build a fence along the Mexican Border - YES
  8. FISA Amnesty - YES
  9. Ban Gun Registration and trigger lock law in DC - YES
  10. Continue intelligence gathering without civing oversight - YES

Cooper is in the pocket of Insurance & Drug Companies. More about this at the end of the diary.

Progressive Punch ranked him in their bottom 9% of progressive candidates even though his district is a blue leaning district.

Mike Lux on Jim Cooper - link here.

Cooper, a leader of conservative Dems on the health care issue, instead of working with us, came out early and said universality was unimportant, and came out with a bill that did almost nothing in terms of covering the uninsured. He quickly became the leading spokesman on the Dem side for the insurance industry position, and undercut us at every possible opportunity, basically ending any hopes we had for a unified Democratic Party position. I was never so delighted to see a Democrat lose as when he went down in the 1994 GOP tide.

Unfortunately, he came back, like a bad penny.
It is such a huge mistake for Obama to use a guy like this to defend their position on health care. The signal it sends to reporters, organizations, and activists like myself who know something about the old health care battles is that Obama truly doesn't care about comprehensive health care reform or universal coverage, and that the health care package you would propose if President would be a conservative, pro-insurance industry bill. The campaign ought to be trying to reassure folks who care about this issue, and using a guy like Cooper does just the opposite.

Cooper about Murtha

"Congress has no business micromanaging a war, cutting off funding or even conditioning those funds," said Rep. Jim Cooper (Tenn.), a leading Democratic moderate, who called Murtha's whole effort "clumsy."

Cooper's email to Kossack jnhobbs

I voted against the House version of the FISA bill last Friday because I do not think we can risk our national security any longer.  The House version accepted nearly all of the provisions contained in its Senate counterpart.  It does not achieve more than the Senate version, but is instead the product of a partisan political contest.

The House version may not use the words "retroactive immunity" for telecom companies, but it does let these companies off the hook. Likewise, it will also not bring the Bush administration's wiretapping activities of the last six years out into the open. Anything the administration provides may only be reviewed in closed, secret court proceedings

Kossack McJoan about Cooper.

Could he sound more like Joe Lieberman in whining about partisanship? But at least Joe didn't just lie about what the bill does.

Jim Cooper is defending his bad vote by lying to his constituents. Don't let him get away with it.

UPDATED : From architek's comments below. NYT 1994 article about Jim Cooper.
It has also become a pocketbook issue for Mr. Cooper, and whatever the fate of his health plan, he is already a winner. In less than a year, the mild-mannered Democrat from the most rural House district in Tennessee has become the toast of health care providers and insurance companies, which have channeled tens of thousands of dollars of contributions to his campaign for a Senate seat. Mr. Cooper is only one of the many politicians benefiting from the fund-raising frenzy set off by the national dialogue over health care. Since drug companies, hospitals, insurers and doctors have so much at stake in the legislation that may emerge from the Congress, many are investing all they can in lawmakers whose proposals would be most favorable to them -- or the least damaging. They are showering millions of dollars in donations to members of Congress with prominent roles in the debate, like Mr. Cooper, whose plan is the alternative to President Clinton's proposal most often preferred by business because it neither requires employers to provide coverage nor limits insurance premiums.
This is similiar to why BlackAgendaReport feels Obama is Wall Street's Candidate - link here
Despite Barack Obama's claim that his campaign represents a mass "movement" of "average folks," the initial core of his support was largely comprised of rich denizens of Wall Street. Why would the super wealthy want a percieved "black populist" to become the nation's chief executive officer? The "Obama bubble" was nurtured by Wall Street in order to have a friend in the White House when the captains of capital are made to face the legal consequences for deliberately creating current and past economic "bubbles." Wall Street desperately needs a president who will "sweep all the corruption and losses, would-be indictments, perp walks and prosecutions under the rug and get on with an unprecedented taxpayer bailout of Wall Street." Who better to sell this "agenda to the millions of duped mortgage holders and foreclosed homeowners in minority communities across America than our first, beloved, black president of hope and change?"

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Re: Everybody's favorite DINO (none / 0)

yes we have blue dog democrats within the party, what is the point of this diary?


I would say at this point we're starting to see a little desperation on the part of the woman who I support... NY Governor Paterson
by obamaovermccain on Mon May 12, 2008 at 12:51:29 PM EST

Re: Everybody's favorite DINO (2.00 / 1)

I think the point is if Lieberman had come out early in favor of Obama then you would be singing his praises too.


by DTaylor on Mon May 12, 2008 at 12:53:13 PM EST
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Re: Everybody's favorite DINO (none / 0)

Not really, there are many people who support Obama who I don't get agree with on the political spectrum, but that doesn't mean I will not support Obama.  If Lieberman supported Obama great, but if he didn't I wouldn't use that against him.  In the end, Obama needs Hillary supporters and independents to win   


I would say at this point we're starting to see a little desperation on the part of the woman who I support... NY Governor Paterson
by obamaovermccain on Mon May 12, 2008 at 12:57:55 PM EST
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BO needs us...but he won't get us! (none / 0)


by CoyoteCreek on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:04:50 PM EST
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Re: BO needs us...but he won't get us! (none / 0)

You are irrelevant and do not represent the public at large.


by venician on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:08:08 PM EST
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In my immediate world, 25% of the (none / 0)

Dems I know won't vote for BO.

No, that's not 100%...but it's 25% that BO won't get.

Does he need those people?  That's a big YUP!


by CoyoteCreek on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:13:19 PM EST
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Everyone, PLEASE recommend this diary. (2.00 / 2)

I don't think Obama's fans have even the smallest inkling of things like this.

Jim Cooper is the guy who killed universal healthcare in 1994


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by architek on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:16:06 PM EST
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Re: Everyone, PLEASE recommend this diary. (none / 0)

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/05/opinio n/05brooks.html?_r=1&em&ex=12024 46800&en=71fcb9a2bceb4c8b&ei=508 7%0A&oref=slogin


I would say at this point we're starting to see a little desperation on the part of the woman who I support... NY Governor Paterson
by obamaovermccain on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:24:55 PM EST
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Re: Everyone, PLEASE recommend this diary. (none / 0)

Chris Bowers on David Brooks who is the author of the above NYT article.

Cooper is, of course, exactly the sort of Democrat that conservative, faux-moderate Republican elites like Brooks love. The sort of compromise that Cooper offers, which is basically sucking up to insurance companies, is exactly the sort of compromise that the national punditry demands from Democrats on a regular basis. Brooks arguing that health care reform field in 1993-1994 because Democrats didn't embrace Cooper's plan is exactly like the Washington Post's editorial page arguing that the failure to change direction in Iraq is the fault of congressional Democrats. Progressive failure is inevitably the result of not doing what Republicans and Bush Dogs want, after all.

by gaf on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:29:39 PM EST
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Archy...tell Susan, and Taylor and (none / 0)

riverdaughter, too.


by CoyoteCreek on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:29:40 PM EST
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No Hillary killed it (1.00 / 1)

because it had to be all about Hillary instead of about compromising to get a good bill.  That's quintessential Hillary - if it doesn't glorify her, she's not interested.


by JJE on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:53:51 PM EST
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Re: BO needs us...but he won't get us! (none / 0)

Not really, I have talked to many Hillary supporters over the weekend and the majority of them will vote for Obama.  Those who will not vote for him has a deep seated hatred for the man that even Hillary couldn't even change that.  That is sad but it is what it is.


I would say at this point we're starting to see a little desperation on the part of the woman who I support... NY Governor Paterson
by obamaovermccain on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:08:18 PM EST
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I don't hate BO. (2.00 / 1)

I'm angry that he put his ego over the needs of this nation and decided to run for POTUS when he is clearly unqualified to do so.

And this diary is a very big example of that inexperience.


by CoyoteCreek on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:14:30 PM EST
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Re: I don't hate BO. (none / 0)

First of all, they all have egos, or they wouldn't run for President, second of all no one had better experience than Cheney and Rumsfeld, and JFK, Lincoln, and Thatcher all had relative little experience, this is such a frivolous argument.  The presidency is much bigger than experience.  Temperance, judgment, the ability to listen to the other side, these are the things I want in a president.  Luckily the majority of the voters agree with me.


I would say at this point we're starting to see a little desperation on the part of the woman who I support... NY Governor Paterson
by obamaovermccain on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:21:29 PM EST
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But there is a candidate with all of the things... (none / 0)

you're looking for AND experience.

Why in the hell would you vote for one without it?  That's just - well, silly.


by CoyoteCreek on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:23:46 PM EST
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Re: But there is a candidate with all (none / 0)

Because in all my lifetime there has been only a Bush and Clinton in the White House and I think it is time we let others into the political process. She is a polarizing person and I belive we will have the same blue/red state division.


I would say at this point we're starting to see a little desperation on the part of the woman who I support... NY Governor Paterson
by obamaovermccain on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:31:34 PM EST
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BUT BUT BUT...in my lifetime... (none / 0)

she truly is the most qualified candidate we have ever had.  

You mean if she had changed her name to Smith you would vote for her but not because her last name is Clinton?

Oh, God, say it isn't so!  For the sake of this country!


by CoyoteCreek on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:34:11 PM EST
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Re: BUT BUT BUT...in my lifetime... (none / 0)

No that is not what I am saying she is not the best qualified for the job when it comes to experience.  She was the first lady for 8 years and US senator for 7 that's it!  If we were looking at experience as the main platform, Biden, Dodd, or Richardson would have won! Clinton is too polarizing (some not her fault.) Half of democrats don't like her, same with independents and republicans.  How can someone this hated lead a divisive nation?  Cooper is coming out publicly stating she had a personal vendetta against him and tried to drown him politically - gangster style.  How is that going to resonate with voters?  


I would say at this point we're starting to see a little desperation on the part of the woman who I support... NY Governor Paterson
by obamaovermccain on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:42:32 PM EST
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The exacat thing can be said about Obama! (none / 0)

"Half of democrats don't like HIM, same with independents and republicans.  How can someone this hated lead a divisive nation?"

So you will settle for someone unqualified who half the country dislikes, too.

Wow.  Just wow.


by CoyoteCreek on Mon May 12, 2008 at 06:57:56 PM EST
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Re: The exacat thing can be said about Obama! (none / 0)

sorry but you got your info wrong, independents voted for him overwhelmingly, his negatives are not as high as Hillary's and even one of McCain's managers will quit his team because his conscience will not allow him to campaign against Obama!  You know this, but your hatred for the man makes you blind. He is qualified enough for the position and that is why he is winning.


I would say at this point we're starting to see a little desperation on the part of the woman who I support... NY Governor Paterson
by obamaovermccain on Mon May 12, 2008 at 07:22:43 PM EST
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He is NOT qualified. (none / 0)

I don't hate Obama.  He's just another political ass who let his ego get in the way of the good of this nation.


by CoyoteCreek on Mon May 12, 2008 at 07:56:28 PM EST
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Re: BUT BUT BUT...in my lifetime... (none / 0)

so much experience.......not all of it good.

still waiting to hear about the lessons learned from being tricked by that clever georgie w.....oh wait.....obliterate iran.

i guess hawks and coyotes run together.


by citizendave on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:48:36 PM EST
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Oh please (2.00 / 1)

Two terms in the senate and two terms as the President's wife hardly makes one "the most qualified candidate we have ever had".  Her experience argument a complete joke and would get exposed brutally by McCain.  Thank God she won't be the nominee.


by JJE on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:51:58 PM EST
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Re: BUT BUT BUT...in my lifetime... (none / 0)

Really, the only large operation she has EVER been in charge of is her campaign. And we all know what a disaster that's been. She is now 20 million dollars in DEBT and you want us to believe that she can run the rountry? LOL


by venician on Mon May 12, 2008 at 03:28:52 PM EST
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neither of the remaining Dems have experience (none / 0)

so who cares?


by JJE on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:50:22 PM EST
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I care!!!! (none / 0)

A lot.


by CoyoteCreek on Mon May 12, 2008 at 06:58:49 PM EST
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Re: BO needs us...but he won't get us! (none / 0)

I'm not worried about a handful of angry people on mydd. Their view is not reflected in poll after poll that show Obama running quite well against McCain.  


"No matter what happens, I will work for the nominee of the Democratic Party because we must win in November." -Hillary Clinton
by fugazi on Mon May 12, 2008 at 02:58:47 PM EST
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you are in denial (none / 0)

Obama has been losing to McCain consistently for months.


For Obama it now becomes: Faith, hope and CHANGE! And the greatest of these is Change!
by TeresaInPa on Mon May 12, 2008 at 07:21:42 PM EST
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Re: you are in denial (none / 0)

really?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con tent/article/2008/04/15/AR2008041503586. html


I would say at this point we're starting to see a little desperation on the part of the woman who I support... NY Governor Paterson
by obamaovermccain on Mon May 12, 2008 at 07:25:29 PM EST
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Re: BO needs us...but he won't get us! (none / 0)

if you want to be responsible for the loss of life under McCain, go for it. I know, here in America we are so sheltered from the consequences of our actions, but what is mere abstraction to you and me is a grim, bloody reality to the people in Iraq.


John McCain hates terrorists, except the ones that hate women. Those are just swell.
by terra on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:15:36 PM EST
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Look at the logic.. (2.00 / 2)

This person is basically saying "Obama or McCain" Obama is the lesser of two evils, but he's still evil.."

I REJECT HAVING PEOPLE CRAM A CANDIDATE DOWN MY THROAT.


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by architek on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:17:42 PM EST
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Re: Look at the logic.. (none / 0)

Like I said, it's your choice. People will die under a McCain presidency by the hundreds of thousands, like they have under George Bush - and that's an UNDENIABLE fact. But if you want to reject and denounce saving lives because you're unhappy with the primary process, go ahead.


John McCain hates terrorists, except the ones that hate women. Those are just swell.
by terra on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:21:27 PM EST
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I won't vote for McCain - but not for BO either. (none / 0)

If McCain wins in November, IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBLITY, NOT MINE.


by CoyoteCreek on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:35:19 PM EST
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Re: I won't vote for McCain - but not for BO eithe (none / 0)

So do you agree that a McCain presidency means a horrific parade of needless deaths?


John McCain hates terrorists, except the ones that hate women. Those are just swell.
by terra on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:37:51 PM EST
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Your point is? (none / 0)


by CoyoteCreek on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:41:41 PM EST
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Re: Your point is? (2.00 / 1)

Not doing everything you can to elect McCain is being complicit at best and an ally at worse to the torture and death of THOUSANDS? I notice you DON'T disagree with me that McCain would be responsible for these things, but you STILL won't vote for him. that says a lot about you, but it also says a lot about America and our shameful apathy, our distance from the epicenters of atrocity and horror in this world, the way we can pull the wool over our eyes and slide on comfortably through our day. Because after all, that's a long ways away. An ocean separates us from Iraq. a long stretch of continent separates us from the Inuit people whose culture is being snuffed out by global warming, same as we tried so hard to snuff out the culture of the Ojibwe and the Dine.

This is a national shame, and YOU are perpetuating it. You need to ask yourself who is more important. Is it the Iraqi people or is it YOU?

These are not abstractions. These are not ifs or maybes. We are destroying lives AS I TYPE THIS, and McCain will do NOTHING about it. Will YOU do something about it, or will you sit idly by, content?


John McCain hates terrorists, except the ones that hate women. Those are just swell.
by terra on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:50:24 PM EST
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I will do something about it...I will vote (2.00 / 1)

for HRC and down ticket dems.

Obama has done nothing to end the Iraq War since he actually got in a position to do something.  HRC will bring the kids home sooner.  No doubt about it.

Obama now doesn't even have a plan to end that war but he will "get right to it" on Day one.  What bullshit.


by CoyoteCreek on Mon May 12, 2008 at 07:01:08 PM EST
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Re: Look at the logic.. (none / 0)

I REJECT HAVING MANDATED HEALTHCARE SHOVED DOWN MY THROAT!!


I can see Lake Erie from where I live, so can I please run the Navy?
by hootie4170 on Mon May 12, 2008 at 02:49:52 PM EST
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like when jerome (none / 0)

quoted ed koch to make his point

i think lieberman is a lot closer to hillary than obama.....(aipac)


by citizendave on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:32:32 PM EST
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Obama supported LIeberman (2.00 / 1)

even as he pretended to support New Lamont.

Obama is a Political Lurker...always in the picture, but never out front, never leading the charge.  Even his "famous" speech resulted in not a single attempt by BO to end the war once he got into the Senate.  But then, he was so busy on day one running for his next promotion he forgot that little issue, didn't he?

I remember reading about him running into committee members on their way to a press conference about something they had just accomplished.  He said, "What's up" and they told him and he said, "Can I come along"?  They said sure - they wanted people on the podium for pictures and then he had the audacity (whoops!) to take the mic and speak as if he had been personally involved in the accomplishment.  Staffers were pissed as hell at what he did.

He lurked in CT in 2006 (never really coming out and supporting Ned Lamont).  He lurks on pro-choice (using weasel words and voting present).  He lurks on race (demanding a dialog and now saying we should all move on - pun intended!).  Condemning the Gas Tax Holiday proposal when he supported other such proposals three times.  

Where in the world does he really stand on things?  I don't know.  And I'm not willing to take a chance.

If we elect a lurker then Repugs will rule the day anyway because he lurks right as much as he lurks left.

NOT what we must have for this country if we are expected to move forward.

Plus, he has destroyed any improvements we have made in race relations since 1960.  

He should be ashamed of himself.


by CoyoteCreek on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:45:17 PM EST
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Re: Obama supported LIeberman (2.00 / 1)

why should he state his position on anything when anyone interested can just ask you.

anyway, you're wasting precious time here, the mccain campaign is anxiously awaiting your support.


by citizendave on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:53:09 PM EST
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McCain's camp doesn't need me... (none / 0)

you guys are already handing him his victory.


by CoyoteCreek on Mon May 12, 2008 at 03:41:00 PM EST
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Re: Everybody's favorite DINO (none / 0)

His/Her point may be that some online supporters of Senator Obama have made it clear that they think people who support Senator Clinton and cannot see themselves voting for Senator Obama are not Democrats.  Or it may be that this blue dog Democrat has a background startlingly similar to John McCain's.

I suppose there might be other interpretations of her/his point.


by aggieric on Mon May 12, 2008 at 12:55:52 PM EST
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Re: Everybody's favorite DINO (none / 0)

Ok I understand what you are saying, but the difference here is that Cooper is a Democrat not a republican, and McCain is a republican and not a democrat.  It doesn't' get any simpler than that.  McCain's only interest is getting his party back in power.  He could care less what democrats do, as a democrat I care about this party and its principles and will everything in my power to see we get elected in 2008.  In summation, if you vote for McCain you are helping the republicans if you are voting for cooper you are helping democrats, regardless how similar their policies are.  


I would say at this point we're starting to see a little desperation on the part of the woman who I support... NY Governor Paterson
by obamaovermccain on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:04:01 PM EST
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Obama's healthcare spokesperson. (2.00 / 2)

Jim Cooper is Obama's healthcare spokesperson. His hit piece on Clinton was on the rec list on DailyKos.


by gaf on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:01:19 PM EST
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This disgusting Blue Dog is BO's (none / 0)

chief adviser on health care...you may remember...health care....the plan that Jim Cooper singlehandedly claims to have killed in the 90's.

With friends like this the nation doesn't need any more enemies.


by CoyoteCreek on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:03:17 PM EST
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Re: Everybody's favorite DINO (2.00 / 1)

This is the example of the Obama support.


by LindaSFNM on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:04:03 PM EST
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Re: Everybody's favorite DINO (none / 0)

And here are some other examples of Obama support: Ted Kennedy, Russ Feingold, and George McGovern.

This is all rather silly. You don't like someone who endorses Obama, so you use that as a basis to attack Obama?    


"No matter what happens, I will work for the nominee of the Democratic Party because we must win in November." -Hillary Clinton
by fugazi on Mon May 12, 2008 at 03:09:34 PM EST
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Not endorses...Cooper is a chief adviser (2.00 / 1)

not some asshat senator who can't find his ass from his elbow.


by CoyoteCreek on Mon May 12, 2008 at 07:03:11 PM EST
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interesting (2.00 / 1)

is this another supporter that Obama will distance himself from?  Or does he actually like the positions this guy is talking about?  Is this what "post partisan" means?  No thank you!


by 4justice on Mon May 12, 2008 at 12:52:24 PM EST

Re: interesting (2.00 / 1)

Post partisan is when democrats like me vote republican.

Trust me post partisan is not good for the democratic party.

When GOP voters think we have the most GOP friendly candidate something is wrong.


by DTaylor on Mon May 12, 2008 at 12:55:33 PM EST
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I think Cooper is the reason Obama has gotten SO (2.00 / 1)

I think Cooper is the reason Obama has gotten SO much MONEY

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.ht ml?res=9B00EEDD1431F93AA25757C0A96295826 0&scp=14&sq=%22Jim+Cooper%22& ;st=nyt

This is the first few lines of a story from 1994

" Health Debate Is Filling Campaign Coffers
By RICHARD L. BERKE,

Representative Jim Cooper offers a simple explanation for his putting forward a health care proposal: "This is a pocketbook issue. It really matters to every family."

It has also become a pocketbook issue for Mr. Cooper, and whatever the fate of his health plan, he is already a winner.

In less than a year, the mild-mannered Democrat from the most rural House district in Tennessee has become the toast of health care providers and insurance companies, which have channeled tens of thousands of dollars of contributions to his campaign for a Senate seat.

Mr. Cooper is only one of the many politicians benefiting from the fund-raising frenzy set off by the national dialogue over health care.

Since drug companies, hospitals, insurers and doctors have so much at stake in the legislation that may emerge from the Congress, many are investing all they can in lawmakers whose proposals would be most favorable to them -- or the least damaging.

They are showering millions of dollars in donations to members of Congress with prominent roles in the debate, like Mr. Cooper, whose plan is the alternative to President Clinton's proposal most often preferred by business because it neither requires employers to provide coverage nor limits insurance premiums.

At one breakfast in January at Cassidy and Associates, a well-connected Washington lobbying firm that has several drug companies as clients, Mr. Cooper collected more th"


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by architek on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:28:38 PM EST
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Cooper is the reason Obama has gotten (none / 0)

Great link - can I add this to my diary?


by gaf on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:40:57 PM EST
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Re: Everybody's favorite DINO (none / 0)

Jim Cooper is the adviser to the Obama campaign on his so-called health care proposals.


by colebiancardi on Mon May 12, 2008 at 12:52:26 PM EST

More than Ed Koch? (none / 0)

Ed Koch is a true DINO. He actually spoke for Bush in 2004. Yet he's out there making a case for Hillary.

Cooper is a very conservative Dem. And he doesn't need to be that conservative to win his Nashville district.


by elrod on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:02:49 PM EST

Ed Koch sucks (2.00 / 1)

for speaking on behalf of Bush, but I have great respect for Ed Koch for his efforts in passing legislation for the LGBT community while in Congress.

It was a taboo topic in the 70's and Ed still stood up with Azbug in trying to pass the first LGBT inclusive equality act way back in 1974.

Compare him to Cooper, who does everything he can to stick his fat foot on the LGBT community for political points stemming from homophobia and Cooper looks less like a man, even less than Ed Koch for speaking for Bush IMHO.


vote blue in 2008
by sepulvedaj3 on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:27:34 PM EST
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should read (none / 0)

in efforts to TRY TO PASS legislation


vote blue in 2008
by sepulvedaj3 on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:27:55 PM EST
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GREAT DIARY. Cross post EVERYWHERE! (none / 0)


by CoyoteCreek on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:03:41 PM EST

Re: GREAT DIARY. Cross post EVERYWHERE! (none / 0)

Don't know where else of x-post. Everybody, feel free to post this with or without attribution anywhere they want.


by gaf on Mon May 12, 2008 at 02:04:04 PM EST
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Re: Everybody's favorite DINO (none / 0)

Obama could have Dick Cheney as one of his advisors and his supporters would find a way to spin that as a positive.  


by JustJennifer on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:06:10 PM EST

Re: Everybody's favorite DINO (none / 0)

I thought Cheney was advising hillary?


by venician on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:09:00 PM EST
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Re: Everybody's favorite DINO (none / 0)

Why would Cheney be advising Hillary ...


"If we can't live together... we're going to die alone."
by VAAlex on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:11:18 PM EST
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Re: Everybody's favorite DINO (none / 0)

Because they have the same foreign policey beliefs


by venician on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:15:37 PM EST
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Re: Everybody's favorite DINO (none / 0)

Generally, sure 'protecting America' is something I think everyone can share. Beyond that, not sure what you're talking about, since they don't really.


"If we can't live together... we're going to die alone."
by VAAlex on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:48:21 PM EST
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Re: Everybody's favorite DINO (none / 0)

Supporting the Bush/Cheney war and threatening to destroy Iran to name two of the biggest.


by venician on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:57:27 PM EST
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Re: Everybody's favorite DINO (none / 0)

"Bush/Cheney" war? You mean the Iraq war? And read that quote again, she never threatened to destroy Iran.


"If we can't live together... we're going to die alone."
by VAAlex on Mon May 12, 2008 at 02:26:51 PM EST
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Re: Everybody's favorite DINO (none / 0)

Sorry I meant the Bush/Cheney/Clinton war. And yes she treeatened to respond with nuclear weapons if Iran attacked ANY middle eastern country.


by venician on Mon May 12, 2008 at 03:16:02 PM EST
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Re: Everybody's favorite DINO (none / 0)

Unlike some people on here, I'm not a huge fan of these little back and forths, so I'll leave you to your incorrect statements. Have a good day.


"If we can't live together... we're going to die alone."
by VAAlex on Mon May 12, 2008 at 03:30:50 PM EST
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And he could have Jesus (2.00 / 1)

as an advisor the Hillary crowd would still find some way to crucify him.


by JJE on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:46:24 PM EST
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Re: Everybody's favorite DINO (none / 0)

Jim Cooper worked with Hillary in 92 on Health Care, I believe


Matthew25Network.com
by cardboard 1 on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:10:59 PM EST

Re: Everybody's favorite DINO (2.00 / 2)

Cooper was Democrat in charge of killing Hillary's healthplan when she was the first lady.

Just like he was Demo in charge of killing Murtha's plan on Iraq.

Basically Cooper is both a Blue Dog & a Bush Dog.


by gaf on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:13:41 PM EST
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Re: Everybody's favorite DINO (2.00 / 1)

No, Hillary did that all be herself and has admitted she made a tactical error in the way she handled it.

In fact Cooper tried to help her but was soundly rebuffed by her.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/05/opinio n/05brooks.html?_r=1&oref=slogin


Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.
by jsfox on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:52:21 PM EST
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Re: Everybody's favorite DINO (none / 0)

Don't believe every thing David Brooks writes.
I have updated the diary about how Jim Cooper was the Insurance Company/Drug Company guy.

by gaf on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:57:36 PM EST
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Re: Everybody's favorite DINO (2.00 / 1)

Not saying I do. However, this is not the only article on this subject.

However, to blame Cooper for Hillary's loss of Health care back in the 90s is to ignore things she has said herself. She mishandled it and has admitted it.

Look I am not a Hillary supporter, but I will always give credit where credit is due. And she deserves credit for saying she mishandled and has learned from this mistake.

I am also one of those odd people who believe if and when Obama gets the nomination he will work with Hillary on health care and their plans will get even closer. Why would anybody ignore someone who probably has some of the deepest knowledge around this issue.


Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.
by jsfox on Mon May 12, 2008 at 02:14:53 PM EST
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Re: Everybody's favorite DINO (none / 0)

I'm not sure about the story... I do know from my days as a lobbyist that Cooper does a great Big Bopper at Congressional Karaoke Night


Matthew25Network.com
by cardboard 1 on Mon May 12, 2008 at 03:18:06 PM EST
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Re: Everybody's favorite DINO (none / 0)

Jim Cooper has a number of positions I disagree with, in fact all. However, I also notice he has a number of positions he disagrees with Obama on as well, in fact all.

Finally, is he in truth his policy spokesperson or just someone who endorses Obama's health care policy and speaks to that fact.

David Cutler, I believe is his leading health care advisor.

Now if what I say is true why would he endorse Obama. I think this story tells it all.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/05/opinio n/05brooks.html?_r=1&oref=slogin


Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.
by jsfox on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:24:41 PM EST

healthcare (none / 0)

is one of those things that will not be reformed without support from the gop, (not to mention the ama and pharm companies)

so....whats the point?
even if oj simpson was his healthcare advisor, the difference between the two plans is small.


by citizendave on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:43:22 PM EST

Re: healthcare (2.00 / 1)

The difference between the two plans is not small.  One provides for coverage for all.  The other does not.  HUGE difference.


by JustJennifer on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:51:09 PM EST
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Re: healthcare (none / 0)

but mandates don't work. that is huge.


by citizendave on Mon May 12, 2008 at 01:55:20 PM EST
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Re: healthcare (2.00 / 1)

Well then what does work?  Doing nothing?  Obama's plan has mandates.. for children.  Is that useless too?


by JustJennifer on Mon May 12, 2008 at 03:04:15 PM EST
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Re: healthcare (none / 0)

i don't think anyone knows what will work....i sure don't.

i just don't believe that the difference is big enough to spew the kind of venom i have seen from clinton supporters on this site (and i've heard that this is where the moderate supporters post)

....and as a senator, hillary can propose an ammendment to the plan when the vote comes up.


by citizendave on Mon May 12, 2008 at 04:15:11 PM EST
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Re: Everybody's favorite DINO (none / 0)

Ummmm  .... you DO know that Hillary is a proud member of the DLC  ... don't you?


"No matter what happens, I will work for the nominee of the Democratic Party because we must win in November." -Hillary Clinton
by fugazi on Mon May 12, 2008 at 02:52:29 PM EST


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