Yes, unless I change my mind [Take Action]

That was Jimmy Carter when asked whether or not he would, as a Super Delegate, support the candidate he voted for in Georgia's primary. His comment speaks volumes about the current state of the race; whether genuine or not, Carter summed up what is currently happening in the Democratic Primary race. Call it buyers' remorse, call it disenchantment, call it whatever you please, but it is obvious that the media, the punditry, and the voters are swiftly changing their minds.

We are starting to see the effects of this shift taking place, just as a reminder:

Easley, governor of NC, a state Obama is all but certain to win, endorsed Hillary. Letting every single Super out there know that this is very much a race to the end

Childers in MS has gone to lengths to distance himself from Obama. Cracks, cracks.

The media is turning and questioning and predicting. The Obama media, which is most of it, is all bulging eyeballs and red in the face ranting- the posture of desperation.

Now I know that Obama's campaign is drip drip dripping their endorsements out to make it seem like there is some sort of momentum behind his campaign- but its just a strategy- it is absolutely nothing to be concerned about. If Obama had the Super Delegates at this point, this race would be over. Supers are waiting for something.

Generally, I prefer to delve into some sort of introspective dialog of Linc past and present, but I will spare you today.

Instead I will beseech:

Write to your Super Delegates, your congress critters, your party leaders. Politely implore them to support Senator Clinton. You know the key points and you know, taking direction from Hillary, how to be gracious. We need a sustained campaign of contact with every. Single. Super. Delegate. Yes, include those that currently support Senator Obama. The theme is electability- we need... no we MUST win in November and Obama just isn't going to do it for us. In simpler terms, it's the electability, stupid.


Here is a very handy list of who is supporting who- Including those supporting Obama

Write to them- convince them that we need a candidate who will win in November. Jimmy Carter said it best- its `unless I change my mind'. Well, let's help our Supers out.

I will be writing to the Colorado Supers that have endorsed Obama or haven't endorsed at all. I will keep everyone updated on the dialog.

And since I have finally figured out how to post video in diaries (thank you Nobama, I think...), here is Easley's new ad for Hillary in NC! Its good.



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Write (2.00 / 7)

Hillary needs our best 210% effort and believe me, the campaign wants us to engage the Supers- with grace and politeness. Get to it.
by linc on Thu May 01, 2008 at 11:34:32 AM EST

I'm writing letters NOW!!! (2.00 / 4)

Thanks for the information to help make it easy.

Rise.  Hillary.  Rise!!!


by CoyoteCreek on Thu May 01, 2008 at 11:55:16 AM EST
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Oh, let's change Jimmy's mind, too!!! (2.00 / 1)


by CoyoteCreek on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:10:14 PM EST
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I am writing him too! (2.00 / 1)

in ink, hope he can read my handwriting ;)
by linc on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:11:40 PM EST
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Please PRINT the following... (2.00 / 1)

ENDORSE HRC...if he can't read your handwriting, he'll still get the message.


by CoyoteCreek on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:13:46 PM EST
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Ha! (2.00 / 1)

will do!
by linc on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:17:22 PM EST
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Re: Write (none / 0)

That's actually pretty accurate. Hillary needs abotu 210% of the remaining delegates to actually win.


by Democratic Unity on Thu May 01, 2008 at 01:44:52 PM EST
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Re: Write (none / 0)

Your pleas for the SDs to reconsider is being heard.  Former DNC chair Joe Andrew just switched from Hillary to Obama today.  I'm guessing that's not what you meant.  :)

In addition to being DNC chair for the last two years of President Clinton's Administration, he's also the former party chair in Indiana.  

That makes 5 SDs for him today, so far zero for her.


John McCain: Healthcare for Kids? In America? No way
by bosdcla14 on Thu May 01, 2008 at 01:52:53 PM EST
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Re: Write (none / 0)

Update: that was fast, she has 4 today now:

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsm emo.com/2008/05/hillary_picks_up_four_ne w_addo.php#comments


John McCain: Healthcare for Kids? In America? No way
by bosdcla14 on Thu May 01, 2008 at 02:04:34 PM EST
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Re: Write (none / 0)

"Supers are waiting for something"

EXACTLY!


"Me Fail English? That's Unpossible." Ralph Wiggum
by canadian gal on Thu May 01, 2008 at 03:42:37 PM EST
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Re: Yes, unless I change my mind [Take Action] (2.00 / 3)

I would like to point out that Sen. Salazar and former Gov. Romer are a)VERY POPULAR in Co and b) neither has endorsed a candidate.

The Obama campaign keeps (pathetically) touting Colorado as a state they can (possibly) win. If one of these two Super D's came out for Hillary, then it would be a clear message to the rest of the super d's that Obama is NOT electable.

Ken Salazar - http://salazar.senate.gov/contact/email. cfm

Gov. Roy Romer - no known email but you can contact him via his son Chris, a state Senator here. (who I know for a fact supports HRC, as does his wife and three daughters)
chris.romer.senate@state.co.us

PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO WRITE TO THEM!!!!!!!!!


by Misty Mountain Maggie on Thu May 01, 2008 at 11:43:06 AM EST

I am so on it (2.00 / 2)

I wrote Salazar a bit ago, but I am going to do it again. I am also planning a couple LTEs!
by linc on Thu May 01, 2008 at 11:44:47 AM EST
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Re: I am so on it (2.00 / 3)

Gov. Bill Ritter (POPULAR moderate Dem) is ALSO uncommitted. PLEASE WRITE TO HIM AS WELL!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.colorado.gov/cs/Satellite/Gov Ritter/GOVR/1177024890452


by Misty Mountain Maggie on Thu May 01, 2008 at 11:47:40 AM EST
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yep (2.00 / 2)

I am writing them all. Thanks for the great links!
by linc on Thu May 01, 2008 at 11:50:53 AM EST
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Re: Yes, unless I change my mind [Take Action] (none / 0)

Romer has said that the pledged delegate winner should receive SD votes. Good luck with that one.


by Democratic Unity on Thu May 01, 2008 at 01:45:53 PM EST
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Re: (2.00 / 2)

Obama supporters like to point out that he is catching up with Hillary in super delegates but that he's still behind is incredible.

The supers should be flocking to him, he's supposed to be the presumptive nominee. Something is holding them back, and its not simply loyalty to the Clintons.

Obama is now locked in a close fight for what should be an easy win for him.

What are the supers going to do if Obama somehow loses North Carolina? Could that trigger a mass movement to Hillary?


by liberalj on Thu May 01, 2008 at 11:57:55 AM EST

Re: (2.00 / 1)

Senator Clinton had a 100 superdelegates before the race even started. And to think here lead is only among DNC members, not governors, not representatives, not senators, says a lot.


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changiness
by lizardbox on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:00:49 PM EST
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Re: (none / 0)

She had a big lead, then she stopped being inevitable and Obama became 'inevitable' so why didn't he suddenly gain a big lead? His inevitability is after many results, hers was before the voting began. His 'inevitability' should be far more of a pull to supers.

I'd be interested to know if there is any historical parallel for supers being this reluctant to committ to the 'presumptive nominee' which is what many Obama supporters have called Obama.


by liberalj on Mon May 05, 2008 at 03:07:56 PM EST
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Re: Yes, unless I change my mind [Take Action] (2.00 / 1)

Here's your claim: "the media, the punditry, and the voters are swiftly changing their minds"

Here's the the reality of things: However, there's one important group whose support Clinton needs to win this nomination, the superdelegates. You don't seem to include them in the group of those who are changing their minds. In fact, they're still trickling in for Obama. In fact, one just switched to Obama. So what gives?


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changiness
by lizardbox on Thu May 01, 2008 at 11:59:25 AM EST

as you point out ... (2.00 / 1)

Super delegates aren't committed to either candidate, no matter what the say, until the final vote is taken in Denver.  Prior to that it's all posturing.


by Thirsty Gator on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:02:16 PM EST

Your argument (2.00 / 1)

doesn't hold water.  Clinton is getting superdelegates as well.  If Obama had won this (or at least won the SD's confidence) it wouldn't be a trickle, it would be a flood.


by izarradar on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:05:32 PM EST

that's my point (none / 0)

reread it, maybe I should clarify...
by linc on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:10:49 PM EST
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Maybe (none / 0)

you didn't mean that comment for me? oops, sorry!
by linc on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:12:54 PM EST
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They want to ignore that fact, izzy. (2.00 / 1)

No one can still answer the question...Why hasn't BO knocked HRC out of the race yet?

The answer is clear:  he can't.

And he cannot win against McCain in November.


by CoyoteCreek on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:12:29 PM EST
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Re: They want to ignore that fact, izzy. (none / 0)

The GE is six months from now.

Six months ago Clinton was far away in the lead, with a huge superdelegate lead as well.  

In July 1992, Bill Clinton was in third place.

You just can't know in May what will happen in November.


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:14:46 PM EST
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Not with Obama in the race (none / 0)

It makes a Democrat hold her/his breath as we wonder what new shit will hit the fan.  Just look at the last couple of weeks---from "bittergate" to "bitterwright," Senator Obama is turning into a loose cannon.  I shudder to think what awaits us between now and November, if he gets the nomination.  


by izarradar on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:27:14 PM EST
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My crystal ball is very clear... (none / 0)

...the real Obama has escaped from the bottle and he can't be put back in.  

The cork is out!!


by CoyoteCreek on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:28:31 PM EST
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Re: My crystal ball is very clear... (2.00 / 1)

Now that's some rigorous political analysis for you.


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:30:07 PM EST
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Yup. The best kind.... (none / 0)

Real.

Honest.

No spin.

Down to earth.

It'll get you everytime!  Try it sometime.


by CoyoteCreek on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:32:17 PM EST
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Re: They want to ignore that fact, izzy. (none / 0)

How about the reverse....  why didn't she knock him out of the race...?  I realize we keep moving the goalposts on this thing, but I am beginning to think neither of them can win in November as long as this race continues between the two of them and we keep defining them downward while McCain skates along merrily....


Like the nominee, don't like the nominee... Our nominee is still better than John McCain...
by JenKinFLA on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:17:26 PM EST
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Wellllll. It looks like she is just about... (none / 0)

to knock him out.

Even you have to admit that!


by CoyoteCreek on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:29:10 PM EST
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Re: Wellllll. It looks like she is just about... (2.00 / 1)

What's your scenario for Clinton knocking Obama out?


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:30:40 PM EST
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Just look around you and you'll (none / 0)

see it coming.


by CoyoteCreek on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:32:51 PM EST
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Re: Just look around you and you'll (2.00 / 1)

More rigorous political analysis.


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:38:31 PM EST
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Re: Wellllll. It looks like she is just about... (none / 0)

Are you kidding?

Obama is farther ahead now then he was before OH, TX and PA.  And he's picking up more s-d endorsements every day.

Hillary is on the ropes.  She's a strong fighter and Obama is having a hard time putting her on the mat.    But we're in the last few rounds, and if she can't knock him out for good, she's going to lose on points.


by Cycloptichorn on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:33:03 PM EST
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Re: Wellllll. It looks like she is just about... (none / 0)

What does "even you have to admit that" even mean...?

I'm supporting/defending Obama on this site, but I am voting for the nominee...

And I do not see her taking him out... she certainly could have/should have before.  She is suceeding despite how terribly her campaign has been un.


Like the nominee, don't like the nominee... Our nominee is still better than John McCain...
by JenKinFLA on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:38:00 PM EST
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Re: They want to ignore that fact, izzy. (none / 0)

The whole frame that's being used doesn't make sense. We have had past elections where one candidate gets the dominant position early and closes it out. This one is just not that pattern.

We'll just have to see what happens. I suspect that they will split the remaining contests, which means Obama gets the nomination. But since I have no crystal ball, I can't say for sure.  Politics is a funny business.


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:29:30 PM EST
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Re: They want to ignore that fact, izzy. (2.00 / 2)

Only HRC can choose to get out of the race and Obama won't ask her to get out.  Hillary backers are right to say she'll stay in until the end and wrong to suggest that Obama is somehow flawed if she doesn't decide to get out.  But how do you blame for him for something that is entirely up to her.

We've known for sometime that she is likely to lose the delegate count, supers and pledged, but it's her call to take it as far as she wants.  June 3, the race is probably over.

Now let's be big kids and vow to support the nominee.


by niksder on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:39:45 PM EST
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they both have weaknesses (none / 0)

Intellectual honesty would dictate that both candidates have weaknesses.  

A recent ABC News/Washington Post poll found nearly 60 percent of voters think Clinton is dishonest. Think about that: Only four in 10 voters do not think she lies when she needs to. A majority hold an unfavorable view of her.

Will those numbers improve if she wins the nomination and Republicans resurrect the scandals, the Bill Clinton sexual affairs and her Bosnia fib with the same intensity they brought to the Wright uproar? Unthinkable.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/050 8/10010.html


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:17:54 PM EST

Re: they both have weaknesses (2.00 / 2)

and despite near identical numbers in exit polling of PA voters, she still won by a big margin. People want a president that can do, not a president of pure persona. Also, Obama's favorability ratings have been dropping lately and he has only been in the national spotlight for how long?


by corunner26 on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:20:31 PM EST
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I think you (2.00 / 2)

have nailed it ;)
by linc on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:24:31 PM EST
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Re: they both have weaknesses (none / 0)

Sure, that's fine in the race for the nomination. But not necessarily for the GE.

And please go and read the whole article. There are lots of exploitable issues when it comes to Clinton. I can just imagine the ads that could be made about her stint at the law firm that defended the Black Panthers and her trashing of a very young rape victim when she defended an accused rapist in AK. Obama doesn't bring up those issues at all because he doesn't consider everything fair game, but they will be around in the fall.

Obama has taken a lot of potential attacks off the table.


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:27:45 PM EST
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Re: they both have weaknesses (none / 0)

Here is a very telling point about all this:
Joe trippi, who was Edwards' campaign manager wrote a piece saying that he is agonizing over the fact that he didn't push Edwards to stay in the race until the convention.  He was NEVER a Hillary fan. To me, it says that he sees now that Hillary has a really good shot at this, and too bad he didn't follow the 'stick it out until the end' strategy with his candidtae, Edwards. A bitter pill.
by rrs11215 on Thu May 01, 2008 at 07:48:10 PM EST
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You think BO's issues are off the table? (none / 0)

You need a quick cup of coffee so you can wake up.


by CoyoteCreek on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:30:53 PM EST

Re: You think BO's issues are off the table? (2.00 / 1)

Sorry if I wasn't clear.

What I was saying -- and what the Politico article and other analyses have said -- is that Obama has not gone after Clinton on lots of issues that Republicans will surely exploit were she the nominee.  

He has taken issues involving Clinton off the table. I think he has done that on behalf of party unity.

But the Republicans will talk about her trashing the reputation of a very young rape victim when she worked to free a brutal rapist, her involvement with a law firm that defended the Black Panthers, the financing of the Clinton library and foundation and a myriad of WH scandals.


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:45:14 PM EST
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which means ... (none / 0)

We. Are. Hosed.

Yes, there are many Clinton scandals the msm is waiting to remind us of.  There are also plenty more Obama scandals that haven't hit full media stride yet.  Sure, we could list all of them for both candidates here, but Joe Voter doesn't know most of them (or at least has put them out of his mind since the 90's).

They're both mighty vulnerable candidates.  We are NOT in a good place going into the general, regardless of who we select.


by Thirsty Gator on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:55:39 PM EST
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Awesome comment at RedState (2.00 / 2)

Let's just put it this way: If Hillary wins every contest from here-on-out, be afraid, be very afraid, regardless of the popular/delegate vote totals, because she'll not only be the nominee, but she'll be a very different person then the Hillary of January. The Hillary of January McCain would destroy. The Hillary of June might be a very different animal.


99% perspiration
by DaveOinSF on Thu May 01, 2008 at 01:58:53 PM EST

Re: Awesome comment at RedState (none / 0)

Whaddaya know... Even a Blind Red Hen sometimes can find a grain of insight. :-)


Grumpy, reluctant, sore-losing, unhappy, irritable Hillary supporter for Barack Obama 2008
by DemAC on Thu May 01, 2008 at 02:20:21 PM EST
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Re: Awesome comment at RedState (none / 0)

We're now relying on RedState commentators for a judgments of who is the better candidate?

I bet I could find a Freeper who thinks McCain should be very afraid of Barack Obama, but who really gives a crap?


Stop the racism. Fight the smears.
by CrazyDrumGuy on Thu May 01, 2008 at 02:52:01 PM EST
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Re: Yes, unless I change my mind [Take Action] (2.00 / 1)

linc, I don't understand why this is not on the rec list? You have recommendations off the page. And deservedly so :(


by linfar on Thu May 01, 2008 at 05:34:20 PM EST


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