Bill O'Reilly: I can't believe I am writing this...

You know that feeling you get, while watching a particularly awkward moment in a particularly enthralling film; a film where your willing suspension of disbelief is on max and you have developed a real understanding of the characters? You sort of cringe and pretend not to watch- feeling absolutely embarrassed for the character being destroyed emotionally by their foe.

Well, that's how I felt about Bill O'Reilly after watching Hillary completely destroy him with every word, at every turn. I know, I can't believe that I am writing this either. Hillary was absolutely amazing- so amazing that I actually had a touch, a very, very brief touch, of empathy for Bill O'Reilly. I know, I am probably going to regret writing this at some point ;) To state the absolute obvious, he deserves everything he got.

Aside from my own embarrassing empathy for O'Reilly, Hillary had some amazing points and a couple perfect lines that I think deserve further exploration- and a second laugh!

The tax code: for pete's sake BO, you sound like a complete and utterly selfish pig- thank you Hillary for pointing it out so succinctly to BO's audience! After BO had gone on ad nauseam about how Hillary was going to steal his money, she quite succinctly let him have it.

Concerning a return to the tax rates of the 1990s, she puts him in his place:

As I recall, you did pretty well in the 90s.

Ouch BO, ouch. To the point- it pretty much shut him up save some of his usual mumblings and harrumphs.

The harrumphing continued for a bit, something like this:

BO: that's socialism!

HC: Umm... was Teddy Rosevelt a socialitist then?

BO: Yes, yes I think he was! Indeed, Teddy Rosevelt was a commie!


Oh boy...

But then she said something very important- concerning the historical context of taxation in the United States. After BO had gone on for far too long about the wonders of the economy in the 60s and 70s, Hillary let him have it- with a bit of comparative example:

Well then, why don't we go back to what we had in the 50s and 60s then...[which was, btw, well above 50% for the top earners]


That's Hillary, always thinking ahead and looking towards the future. During this entire exchange Hillary wasn't speaking to BO, she was speaking to those Faux News viewers that are considering our ticket this fall. She wasn't worried about this primary; she was running for the end goal- appealing to those folks that appreciate our history and think it made or makes sense. This is why she is going to be the next POTUS- this is why we need her at the top of our ticket- she wants to win and she knows how to do it and she knows who do speak to about getting there.

And of course, she has given me something else to giggle about for the next week- it was a beauty- sarcasm ripe:
BO: Are you surprised that Fox news has been fair to you [than the other guys]?

HC: I wouldn't expect anything less than a fair and balanced coverage of my campaign.


Hilarious!

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Re: Bill O'Reilly: I can't believe I am writing th (2.00 / 1)

Hey, did you hear when she said "Rich people... God bless us"... that was hilarious, wasn't it?


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by lizardbox on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:47:07 AM EST

Oh go away (none / 0)

so what's your point?
by linc on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:48:28 AM EST
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Re: Oh go away (2.00 / 1)

to remind O'Reilly's viewers that their guy isn't a man of the people, as he portrays Hillary's tax plan as taking away from him AND ordinary Americans


"there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right in America"-William Jefferson Clinton, forty-second President of the United States
by DiamondJay on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:49:41 AM EST
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it was actually deadly to O'Reilly (2.00 / 2)

when you finish the full statement...."rich people like us can afford to pay more so that taxes can be lowered for middle income people...", wherein she takes the moral high ground regarding the responsibilty of having wealth and paying taxes.  And to that it extent, it was hilarious...to see Bill having his words stuffed right down his own throat, all from a woman who was smiling, articulate, and pleasant when she said it!


by 4justice on Thu May 01, 2008 at 01:14:20 AM EST
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Re: it was actually deadly to O'Reilly (2.00 / 1)

As an Obama supporter, you know what my opinion of the interview was...

I thought she did great.

Just please, have her stop this nonsense about the gas tax holiday.


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by lizardbox on Thu May 01, 2008 at 01:34:51 AM EST
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Re: it was actually deadly to O'Reilly (2.00 / 1)

We need one policy issue between them to show some contrast. The healthcare thing was getting stale. Public needed something new so let them fight it out.


by Sandeep on Thu May 01, 2008 at 01:51:37 AM EST
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She is being smart (2.00 / 1)

By not ceding a classic pocketbook issue to the repulicans--and she is not proposing a no-strings-attached gas tax holiday.  She stated that it will be paid for by a windfall profits tax on Big Oil.  Sounds fair to me (and politically smart).  We Dems have gotten beaten around the ears with these kind of issues for years.  She's being very savvy.  That's what I want out of my candidate.


Unity Ticket: The best damn way to kick John McCain's Ass in November!
by aurelius on Thu May 01, 2008 at 02:13:43 AM EST
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Deadly smart (2.00 / 3)

I can't believe Axelrod is choosing this to draw the line in the sand over.  This is political suicide.  

Impossible to overestimate the political impact of gas prices.

And despite all the bullhorned economist sighing, the plan won't damage the economy in the slightest.  Fuel demand and supply are both highly inelastic in the short run.  A 3-month gas tax holidy will have virtually no effect on fuel demand.  The political benefit is sheer gravy.

And she's hitting him with it just at the moment he is politically wavering.  It's brilliant politics; a joy to watch.


by Trickster on Thu May 01, 2008 at 02:27:58 AM EST
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Re: Deadly smart (none / 0)

Basically every expert in both the economic and environmental field, ranging from liberal to conservative, thinks that not only is this "Gas Holiday" a sham, it would likely cause more damage in the long run.

Even Krugman gets into the act!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/30 /expert-support-for-gas-ta_n_99474.html

This is nothing but populist political posturing.  

I'd consider myself a populist, but this is along the lines of Homer Simpson singing "The Garbage Man Can."


by doschi on Thu May 01, 2008 at 02:36:05 AM EST
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Re: Deadly smart (2.00 / 1)

Any expert who says this plan would do anything of significance is just posturing themselves.  Look, everybody knows the gas tax needs to go up, not down, but a short-term tax holiday is just meaningless from a policy perspective.  Given the timing, really, it ain't that bad because it does produce a smidgeon of fiscal stimulus at a time when some fiscal stimulus is much-needed.  That little smidgeon is pretty much its only effect.

But politically, it's not just posturing.  It's a body blow.


by Trickster on Thu May 01, 2008 at 02:59:13 AM EST
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Re: Bill O'Reilly: I can't believe I am writing th (2.00 / 2)

she was beautiful, tho I 1000 percent expected this. She was great even on Chris Wallace Sunday once, the same hit guy who went after Bill Clinton and got tossed. She kept her cool against bullshit really well. she has superb temperment, something John McCain doesn't have, tho that may be from going crazy in Vietnam. This has the potential to swing a lot of voters. Bill just kept trying to snipe her, and came off looking like the guy in Pulp Fiction who comes out of a door to Travola and Jackson, yells "NOOOO" and fires a handgun at pointe blank range and misses every single shot.


"there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right in America"-William Jefferson Clinton, forty-second President of the United States
by DiamondJay on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:48:22 AM EST

she knew exactly what she was doing (2.00 / 2)

She knows what she has to do to get us to the White House, she is more on the ball than any of us can even imagine.
by linc on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:50:33 AM EST
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Re: Intelligence, Toughness, Perseverance (2.00 / 5)

This woman is in a league of her own.

Intelligence, Toughness, & Perseverance.

That's a very rare combination to have.


by labanman on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:56:32 AM EST

that last line was CLASSIC (2.00 / 1)

and classy!

ps...already donated!


by 4justice on Thu May 01, 2008 at 12:58:38 AM EST

she is all class (2.00 / 1)

and then some. for sure. As for donating... I am considering another! Its not midnight where I am yet ;)
by linc on Thu May 01, 2008 at 01:00:41 AM EST
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I think she did pretty well (2.00 / 2)

and she turned him into an idiot by making him say "Yes, yes I think [Teddy Roosevelt]was a socialist! Indeed, Teddy Roosevelt was a commie!"

Can you believe this idiocy? Teddy Roosevelt a communist? Goodness gracious...she really proved that he is an idiot.

I think either of democratic candidates would destroy him. Senator Clinton did it and Senator Obama will do it next. Let us just hope that he gets over this Rev. Wright crap.

By the way, the CBS/NYT new poll features some bad trends for Senator Obama. Check it out.  


by likelihood zero on Thu May 01, 2008 at 01:05:23 AM EST

Re: Bill O'Reilly: I can't believe (2.00 / 2)

That was one of the single-most impressive performances I've ever seen.  She really did have him snivelling like a 3 year old.


99% perspiration
by DaveOinSF on Thu May 01, 2008 at 01:09:28 AM EST

Nah, he was lovin' it too! This (2.00 / 2)

is how the big boys and girls play.  

He's tough enough but don't cry for Bill.   He was respecting her while also enjoying himself.  Which made it a delight to watch IMO.


by miker2008 on Thu May 01, 2008 at 01:19:23 AM EST

Watching him (2.00 / 2)

I actually think she kind of won him over.  I almost think he kind of likes her.


Unity Ticket: The best damn way to kick John McCain's Ass in November!
by aurelius on Thu May 01, 2008 at 02:15:47 AM EST
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The women on afterward were ribbing him about that (none / 0)


by lombard on Thu May 01, 2008 at 03:16:23 AM EST
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I agree 100% (2.00 / 1)

I saw this as a rather friendly give and take.  He would strike his redneck, but good natured, devil's advocate pose, she would respond cheerfully, and he didn't dwell on points of disagreement.  Both of them seemed to be enjoying themselves.


by lombard on Thu May 01, 2008 at 03:15:06 AM EST
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Yes and THIS is what "reaching (2.00 / 1)

across the aisle" really means.   Hillary is a natural at the feisty give-and-take needed to win over the opposition.  

Ok, I know I'm biased, but how can anyone think Obama -- with his slightly snide and emotionally removed manner -- come anywhere close to Hillary's skill at disarming the opposition?


by miker2008 on Thu May 01, 2008 at 10:16:07 AM EST
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re (2.00 / 2)

Hillary would be 100 times the President her husband ever was. She is just that good!


by rossinatl on Thu May 01, 2008 at 01:36:47 AM EST

Re: Bill O'Reilly: I can't believe I am writing th (2.00 / 1)

My God...I know how you feel.  I just used O'Reilly as a keyword on my base blog Declarations of Pride and that is something I never imagined I would ever be moved to do.

She was excellent in the den of the enemy!

What I saw was a woman who looked very Presidential!

Bravo Hillary!  

Superdelegates and voters yet to cast, are you seeing the history that is Hillary's rise to the White House.  She is the only one electable against McCain.  As much as I hate to admit it (and I do...because I would love for America to face racism head on with Barack), he is damaged goods thanks to Wright.

It is time to rally behind Hillary and encourage all to vote for her.  They are listening, and waiting for the chance to love her.  Well pay attention America, Madame President has the mike!


Pride & Prejudice...The American Way!
by FISG on Thu May 01, 2008 at 01:37:15 AM EST

Love her (2.00 / 2)

Can we please have a president in the White House who is this smart!?  

She's incredible.  I am tired of Bush and Obama and all the other people who can barely string a sentence together without a teleprompter.  


2004 swing state margins: PA-2%, OH-2%, IA-1%, WI-0.5%, MI-3%, FL-5%, NM-1%; Alienating 50% of the party is a luxury we can't afford.
by BPK80 on Thu May 01, 2008 at 01:37:47 AM EST

Tell me about it (none / 0)

when did teleprompters become acceptable for politicians anyway?
by linc on Thu May 01, 2008 at 01:39:14 AM EST
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Re: Tell me about it (none / 0)

Good point!  Did this all start with Bush?

Do we really need presidents who have an extemporaneous speaking impediment?


2004 swing state margins: PA-2%, OH-2%, IA-1%, WI-0.5%, MI-3%, FL-5%, NM-1%; Alienating 50% of the party is a luxury we can't afford.
by BPK80 on Thu May 01, 2008 at 04:20:35 AM EST
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Re: Tell me about it (none / 0)

I believe teleprompters actually started with the Great Actor, Ronnie Raygun.


by aggieric on Thu May 01, 2008 at 09:33:21 AM EST
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Did you notice her response about OPEC (none / 0)

She is so very well versed on policy.  She schooled Bill on how we actually can have leverage over OPEC within the framework of the WTO (9 OPEC countries are members of the WTO).  This is the level of knowledge that I just don't see from BHO.  She understands the international landscape in a way that he just doesn't.  And this ain't no time for on the job training.  * years as Vice would give him enough experience to handle the job: he hasn't got it right now--but I have high hopes for him in the future.


Unity Ticket: The best damn way to kick John McCain's Ass in November!
by aurelius on Thu May 01, 2008 at 02:19:14 AM EST
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Re: Did you notice her response about OPEC (none / 0)

I wonder where he gets the sense of entitlement to seek the presidency based on no experience and no achievements of distinction.

"If George Bush can do it, so can I?"

Is that his thinking?


2004 swing state margins: PA-2%, OH-2%, IA-1%, WI-0.5%, MI-3%, FL-5%, NM-1%; Alienating 50% of the party is a luxury we can't afford.
by BPK80 on Thu May 01, 2008 at 04:30:13 AM EST
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He's probably thinking something dangerously (none / 0)

close to that (if not that).


Unity Ticket: The best damn way to kick John McCain's Ass in November!
by aurelius on Fri May 02, 2008 at 04:55:33 PM EST
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Hilarious! (2.00 / 1)

BO: Are you surprised that Fox news has been fair to you [than the other guys]?

HC: I wouldn't expect anything less than a fair and balanced coverage of my campaign.

Yes, it is. Yet at the same time, a little sad that neither you nor she can, or will, see why they are being so "fair" to HRC.


by BlueinColorado on Thu May 01, 2008 at 01:42:28 AM EST

What, no sense of humor? (2.00 / 1)

I can lend you some of mine?
by linc on Thu May 01, 2008 at 01:44:25 AM EST
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Re: What, no sense of humor? (none / 0)

You can use it to watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTGbI8pzv qk

Thank you, Karl!! mmm-hmm-hmmm

It's not like he's a criminal or anything. No reason not to giggle along with him.


by BlueinColorado on Thu May 01, 2008 at 01:47:48 AM EST
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Re: Hilarious! (none / 0)

Are you just being difficult or did Clinton's little snark really 747 over your head?

Makes me like her more.


by AlexScott on Thu May 01, 2008 at 01:49:18 AM EST
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Re: Hilarious! (none / 0)

This isn't her first appearance on Fox.

Was this "snark" too?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11bu-4RjG h0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64PRLw9nW 2U


by BlueinColorado on Thu May 01, 2008 at 01:56:28 AM EST
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Re: Hilarious! (none / 0)

"Hissy fits"? You people are a riot.

My apologies for bringing truth into the Hothouse of Delicate Feeling.


by BlueinColorado on Thu May 01, 2008 at 11:11:55 AM EST
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Re: Hilarious! (none / 0)

One is going through one's comment history? How flattering. Or creepy.

I don't know what's funnier: Being told to "chill" by someone who posts in all boldface , or being accused of candidate worship at MyDD, in a diary by alegre, Our Lady of The Overused Exclamation Point!


by BlueinColorado on Thu May 01, 2008 at 01:29:46 PM EST
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Re: Hilarious! (none / 0)

Those knee pads must wearing thin soon...

You were saying something about "childish"?

Pathetic.


by BlueinColorado on Thu May 01, 2008 at 02:05:07 PM EST
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No, he's just an unremmiting Obamabot (none / 0)


by lombard on Thu May 01, 2008 at 03:18:43 AM EST
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Re: No, he's just an unremmiting Obamabot (2.00 / 1)

Ah, my favorite pro-war Liebercrat.

You're more consistent than most Clintonites, I'll give you that.


by BlueinColorado on Thu May 01, 2008 at 09:50:14 AM EST
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Thanks. I always wanted to be somebody's favorite (none / 0)

Come to think of it, I never really did buy into Emerson's foolish consistency thing.


by lombard on Thu May 01, 2008 at 10:47:29 AM EST
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No, he's just an unremmiting Obamabot (2.00 / 1)

His reflexive nature is to throw dirt on anything favorable to Hillary rather than just abstain from the discussion.


by lombard on Thu May 01, 2008 at 03:20:57 AM EST
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Re: Hilarious! (none / 0)

so you admit they are being fair?  which implies i guess that others arent.  thank you for your honesty.

okay that being said - i agree that they want this race to continue as long as possible.  but see the problem with your implication, and we all here know what it means, is that it is not backed up with facts.  in reality - we are seeing 2 downtickets already being attacked by the rethugs tying them to BO.

none of us here have any illusions about billyboy, but she still creamed him!



"Me Fail English? That's Unpossible." Ralph Wiggum
by canadian gal on Thu May 01, 2008 at 02:13:28 AM EST
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I can't believe you need a clue phone (none / 0)

she was being sarcastic.  The republicans want to run against the weaker candidate.  The is Obama.  He can't even debate Clinton much less go on O'Really.  He is weak and getting weaker.


For Obama it now becomes: Faith, hope and CHANGE! And the greatest of these is Change!
by TeresaInPa on Thu May 01, 2008 at 08:16:47 AM EST
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Re: I can't believe you need a clue phone (none / 0)

she was being sarcastic.  The republicans want to run against the weaker candidate.

I agree. That's why they're boosting Hillary.

When the cluephone rings, you answer the toaster.


by BlueinColorado on Thu May 01, 2008 at 09:51:03 AM EST
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Re: Bill O'Reilly: I can't believe I am writing th (none / 0)

She was definitely fantastic in this interview. Well done.


by AlexScott on Thu May 01, 2008 at 01:45:28 AM EST

Re: Bill O'Reilly: I can't believe I am writing (none / 0)

The tax thing was a great moment for her but calling them fair and balanced?


Proudly joining the legions of people and states that don't matter on May 20th.
by Obama Independent on Thu May 01, 2008 at 02:53:01 AM EST

It was obviously (none / 0)

facetious.
by linc on Thu May 01, 2008 at 10:41:03 AM EST
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Re: Bill O'Reilly: I can't believe I am writing th (none / 0)

I would kill to see Obama do this. Can you even imagine Obama going on Oreilly?

He wont and he'll just say something the daily kooks told him to say!

Face it the woman is amazing! No tele just brains! That who I want in the white house!


by boxer4hrc on Thu May 01, 2008 at 08:41:09 AM EST


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