MyDD :: It's official, the blograce is over

It's official, the blograce is over

by hebi, Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 05:28:45 AM EST

If the blogs on the campaign websites are an indicator for the state of the race, the Clinton campaign is in dire straits.

From the start the Obama campaign has been better integrated with the web, but the current activity-level on the two candidate websites is strikingly different.

Whether it's a lack of funding, or simply lack of good news, the blog-page on Hillary's website is not updated very frequently. But the few entries on the blog that are made generate a fraction of the comments posted on Barack's website

The last entry on HRC's blog is from 5:46 PM, the only entry on april 8. Grand total of 40 reactions.
The first two posts on BHO's blog on April 9 generated a grand total of 1667 comments (and counting). Of course there's no science involved in this netpoll. It's just possible that Hillary's team is at this moment busy creating a completely new strategy. Maybe all HRC's supporters are out there working up a sweat calling and making signs. But to me it is starting to feel like a campaign near it's end.

Another websign is the new donation gizmo they've put front and center on Hillary's website
It's been up a couple of days now, but at the current rate Hillary will have her door hangers (15 K) and vans (25K), she probably will get her signs (50 K), but she'll have to shrink her plans for web (100 K), radio (500 K) and TV (2500 K) adds dramaticly.

Well maybe I'm reading to much into this, but without something drastic happening in the next two weeks I wouldn't be surprised if HRC looses the PA primary and gets out soon after.

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Re: It's official, the blograce is over (2.00 / 3)

uh i think its pretty clear obama has a larger internet presence.

but kudos to you obama fans for reading hillarys demise into everything. Shame you havent killed her yet, and she is about to pwn you in PA

by zane on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 06:37:01 AM EST

Re: It's official, the blograce is over (2.00 / 0)

Meh. Everyone expects her to win there.

by mikeinsf on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 06:39:33 AM EST
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A lot of American families are in dire straits too (2.00 / 2)

Unlike those happy, prosperous Obama folk.

Don't worry, it will never happen to you. You are immortal. Who cares if his healthcare plan shifts all the expenses to you, you can afford it.

Give till it hurts. Don't worry, be happy. Progress is our most important product. Less is more. War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength, You will be assimilated

Universal healthcare IS a core Democratic value
Comprehensively cover 100%, not only the healthiest 80%

by architek on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 08:41:12 AM EST
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Re: A lot of American families are in dire straits (2.00 / 0)

What does this have to do with what I said?

by mikeinsf on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 08:59:49 AM EST
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Re: A lot of American families are in dire straits (none / 0)

well, people who don't have the resources to play online all day are still allowed to vote. is that ok with you?

by campskunk on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 10:50:45 AM EST
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Re: A lot of American families are in dire straits (none / 0)

strange

by mikeinsf on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 02:23:52 PM EST
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Another new METRIC!!! (2.00 / 1)

If Clinton wins any state where she is expected win, then that doesn't count.

And if she doesn't win by the margin the press and Obamacrats say she "must", then she actually loses.

Sweet.

And sad. So sad.

by Shazone on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 10:11:07 AM EST
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Re: Another new METRIC!!! (none / 0)

Your absolutely right Shazone,

Let's get rid of all the BS and go right back to what matters, the delegate count.

Obama 1639 / Clinton 1503

Obama needs 42.5% % of the remaining delegates
Clinton needs 57.5% % of the remaining delegates

by hebi on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 10:34:12 AM EST
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Re: Another new METRIC!!! (none / 0)

What world do you live in? Clinton has been running around saying all kinds of states don't count: red states, small states, caucus states. I just said she was expected to win... meaning that this one state's not going to seal it for anyone. I swear it's like Bizarro world around here.

by mikeinsf on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 02:26:34 PM EST
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Re: It's official, the blograce is over (2.00 / 4)

Let's just put it this way: If the internet was a big deal, our general election opponent would be Ron Paul and the current President would be Howard Dean.

PEEYAW!

Hillary supporter for Barack Obama in 2008

by zcflint05 on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 07:13:58 AM EST

Re: It's official, the blograce is over (2.00 / 0)

I think the internet is a big deal. In general, but also in this race.
I think her website and the online donations kept HRC going after super tuesday, without the on-line donations she would have been bankrupt.

by hebi on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 07:39:04 AM EST
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Re: It's official, the blograce is over (2.00 / 2)

For folks who used to visit the Edwards site....
ya might want to visit...
http://www.eenrblog.com/

"If you want to end war and stuff, you gotta sing loud"...Arlo Guthrie

by nogo war on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 08:14:15 AM EST

How about subtracting the candidates names (2.00 / 0)

Say X has a bigger online presence
and Y has a traffic low site

Does it matter?

Four years ago you would have thought it mattered, (Kerry had a great Dean list and online support) and then it turned it that it didn't.

However, this primary, in financial turns, the ability to access over a million non-maxed-out donors has been phenomenal. It will probably become a model for future political fundraising.

But does this guarantee victory for such a dem candidate for nomination? Not yet. And as for the GE? Who knows.

The impact of dispersed power, of netroots taking over from the old machine, is still transitional. Maybe this is the time it takes over. It's certainly looking that way, but I'd appreciate insight from you guys on what you really believe (subtract the names of the candidates if it helps to discuss)

by brit on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 08:15:21 AM EST

Actually... (2.00 / 0)

...in 2004, Bush beat us like a drum online. For example, they assembled the largest email list ever created in politics up to that date, some six million entries, were far more sophisticated in using the web to organize volunteers and target voters, had much smarter ad buys and targeting, that kind of stuff.

The Democratic ascendancy online is a new thing. What you see today, from the sites to blogs to tools was basically created and/or matured post-2004.

:-)

"This election is not about ideology, it's about competence." -Michael Dukakis

by MBNYC on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 09:07:29 AM EST
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Re: It's official, the blograce is over (2.00 / 0)

What isn't mentioned is the Hillary for President site is the worst of the 3 candidates as far as censoring comments on their blog.

AnnMarie

by wiscogirl101 on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 08:52:01 AM EST

Re: It's official, the blograce is over (2.00 / 3)

I imagine your trolling there isn't welcomed, Ann. Then again, I'd rather have my canidiates blog censored than have the Obama example: an official website with blog comments referring to "Hitlery" "Hillary's a bitch" and trashing her because of Monicagate.

Hillary supporter for Barack Obama in 2008

by zcflint05 on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 09:48:55 AM EST
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say hello to President Dean (2.00 / 2)

DON'T COUNT THE VOTES, DON'T COUNT THE VOTES.... Obama and the Obamaettes... spring 2008

by TeresaINPennsylvania on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 09:37:43 AM EST

What Blog Race? (2.00 / 1)

Clinton never had much support in the blogosphere. Perhaps, if what ever support Clinton had on the blogs has collapsed over the last week or so, that would be a sign that the campaign is collapsing and coming to an end. But even then, the pro-Clinton bloggers represent only a small skewed part of her support.

Dizzy Zzyzzy

by Zzyzzy on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 09:58:54 AM EST

Re: What Blog Race? (none / 0)

I Agree. I don't think 'blog race' means much.
For a time, Edwards had more blog support than Hillary and even Obama, I think. But that never translated into traction to win pledged delegates.

Better indicators of support are numbers of people showing up at events, number of individual donors, and which candidate the super delegates are drip, drip, dripping to.

Let the children lose it Let the children use it Let all the children boogie

by toyomama on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 10:47:48 AM EST
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A better indirect indicator (none / 0)

Intrade provides a better indirect indicator of the direction of the campaign. Obama is trading at about 7:1 better than Hillary. If Hillary had a serious chance to win, observers would have a powerful incentive to bet on her campaign, but as you can see from the link below, few people seem to want to bet on her. And the perceived odds of her victory are steadily sinking.

Any contrarians who believe in Hillary's prospects should puts some money up!

http://data.intrade.com/graphing/jsp/clo singPricesForm.jsp?tradeURL=https://www. intrade.com&contractId=177134

by xtrarich on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 10:20:54 AM EST

Re: It's official, the blograce is over (none / 0)

I think candidates undervalue the Internet to their campaign's own peril, notwithstanding sarcastic comments about Dean/Paul it's quite obvious that Obama has leveraged his site to generate millions of dollars to spectacular effect.

All that said, yes you are reading way too much into this. :)

I agree that Clinton is having trouble raising some when compared to Obama. It might even be the case that her campaign is staying barely solvent -- hard to say until we know how much of the 20 million she raised in February was for the primary vs. the general. Still, I don't think you can really draw much in the way of conclusions from her web page.

by tessellated on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 10:41:30 AM EST

Re: It's official, the blograce is over (none / 0)

Yor're right the blog race, is over. But it's over because we on this site are not making any difference in this race. I believe most of us have already VOTED, and our votes are the only concrete evidence their is, that we have helped our candidate. The rest, how much money we donate, how much out reach we do, we will never have concrete proof that it made a difference. I don't believe the blogs are helping people decide who to vote for. I have yet to see any diary that will actually convince someone to switch sides before they've voted. Yes,some have switched, but if they've already voted it's not going to make a difference for their new choice.

by lion king on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 03:38:23 PM EST

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