Taylor Marsh: Fraud or Hack?

I just can't help myself from spreading the word about this masterful article I just read.  If any of you have ever scratched your head wondering who the heck Taylor Marsh is and why she is given a mouthpiece, read on.

First of all, the article discusses Taylor Marsh's claim that she is an author. As it turns out:

My Year in Smut is THE Taylor Marsh book. I don't mean it's the best. I mean it's the only one. I mention that because she likes to occasionally mention her status as an author. Her background as an author and her "research" for the book create a kind of implied credibility. They probably shouldn't.

When your research is actually your job working for a porn site that's an issue. When you're book is printed by AuthorHouse, that's another issue.

AuthorHouse, previously known as 1st Books, served as publisher for My Year in Smut. Do you know what it takes to get AuthorHouse to print your book? Do you need a good literary agent who can sell them on your manuscript? Do you need a track record as an author? Do you need a knockout manuscript they just can't resist? No. No, you don't. You need a check. Or a major credit card.

AuthorHouse is a self-publishing vanity press. You pay them, they print your book. That's about it. I could take my four-year-old's assorted scribblings and Crayola pieces and transform them into a coffee table book, complete with glowing reviews of each drawing written in the tone of a serious art critic. I could do that for around $500. Would that make John Brown's daugher a serious artist? Not really, huh?

 

Next, to Taylor Marsh's claim that she is a "radio host":

Taylor Marsh is a radio host. She says so. Everyone says so. It's all over the fucking place. However, you probably haven't heard her in your car on the radio while commuting to work or going to the store. You see, Taylor Marsh isn't on the radio. No one has actually paid her for being on the radio at any time, based on what I can find.

Taylor Marsh has a website that looks like it belongs to a radio show host. It's illusion. She's a podcaster. She records a show like the ones they actually broadcast on the radio and makes it available for download.

There is something inherently silly about calling yourself a radio host and garnering credibility as a media figure from it when all you're really doing is taking a few calls from ass-kissing blog readers and converting results into MP3 format. That isn't a radio show.

Radio shows are broadcast. Radio shows, in most cases, have advertisers. Babbling into a $15 Radio Shack microphone in your basement and uploading the results to your website isn't running a radio show. Sorry, it just isn't. You are not a radio host if you do that. You're a podcaster.

But she DID have a radio show at one time, right? Well, sort of. I can understand the confusion. Occasionally she mentions wanting to find a "new home" for her radio show and she discusses her status as a screwed-over radio host when she makes crazily shallow comments about the Fairness Doctrine. Clearly, she had a radio show. Right?

Here's the deal. In 2002, Taylor Marsh went to Las Vegas and became a radio host... Sort of. Judy Proffer (Magpye Media) and Marsh came up with the cash to buy time on KLAV, a Las Vegas AM radio station. That's right. They bought time.

KLVA is to radio what Author House is to publishing. If you can't really get a job on a real radio station, you can go to KLVA and buy blocks of time. They give you the studio, provide production assistance, and you're on the air! Instant radio host status. If you'd like to become a talk radio host tomorrow, call your local AM vanity station and offer them some cash. That's all it takes. You can stutter. You can whine. You can say outrageously stupid things. You can be boring. It's on your dime. I could put my four-year-old in front of a mic and have her sing variations on "Row, Row, Row Your Boat" for two hours a day and, voila!, she'd have a claim equivalent to Taylor's as a "radio host".

 

So, what do you think? Are her claims to being an "author" and "radio host" misleading?


Poll
Is Taylor Marsh a Fraud and/or a Hack?
Fraud
Hack

Votes: 30
Results : Vote Link : Polls

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Re: Taylor Marsh: Fraud or Hack? (2.00 / 9)

What is the point of this diary? other than to indulge your paraniod mind and the ax you have to grind against someone you never met?


by americanincanada on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 10:59:09 AM EST

John Brown of Kansas (2.00 / 5)

He's the original author of this hit piece, and he's got a huge ax to grind.


I'm United Methodist. I already have a Messiah.
by KnowVox on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:04:32 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: John Brown of Kansas (1.00 / 0)

Just your friendly internet troll following you around. Can you serve me up another, sir?


by zep93 on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:05:50 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: John Brown of Kansas (none / 0)

Awesome! It's a slow day at work, so we can play the game all day long.


by zep93 on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:22:24 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Indeed...when you have to attack someone (2.00 / 2)

personally it means you're struggling to debate them on the ideas.

One would hope progressives were better than this.


by grannyhelen on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:21:13 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Indeed...when you have to attack someone (2.00 / 0)

Do you seriously think that Taylor Marsh, of all people, is open to a debate on the ideas?


"There's something horrible and undefeatable about people who have no life except the worship of power. People who don't want the meeting to end."
by campaignmonitor on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:28:05 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Try it yourself... (2.00 / 4)

...if she comes back on with a hit piece on "campaignmonitor" you can expect me to defend you against that type of personal attack as well.


by grannyhelen on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:30:40 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Try it yourself... (none / 0)

I don't see why I would need defending if what she said about me is true.


"There's something horrible and undefeatable about people who have no life except the worship of power. People who don't want the meeting to end."
by campaignmonitor on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:46:52 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Dehumanization is the first step (2.00 / 3)

toward hate, which opens the door to violence.

That's why I don't condone it.

Have to do some afternoon errands, but please reconsider the affects - both intended and unintended - of posting something written in anger with the intention to dehumanize.


by grannyhelen on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:52:23 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Dehumanization is the first step (2.00 / 0)

I have to take exception to your language there.  Dehumaniize is not the right word.  What are you really trying to say?


"There's something horrible and undefeatable about people who have no life except the worship of power. People who don't want the meeting to end."
by campaignmonitor on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:55:44 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Dehumanization is the first step (none / 0)

I dont think he dehumanized her. He gave us a pretty straightforward account of what he researched and what he was speculating about. I do not agree with everything he wrote but at least I know where to disagree.


by Pravin on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 12:17:49 PM EST
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Correction (2.00 / 1)

Campaignmonitor didn't research anything. The original author is an anonymous blogger who goes by the name of "John Brown of Kansas," a misnomer if there ever was one.


I'm United Methodist. I already have a Messiah.
by KnowVox on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 12:56:08 PM EST
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Re: Correction (none / 0)

Correct, although I don't get what your point is.


"There's something horrible and undefeatable about people who have no life except the worship of power. People who don't want the meeting to end."
by campaignmonitor on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 01:00:27 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Correction (2.00 / 1)

Fraud or HacK? That is the question.


I'm United Methodist. I already have a Messiah.
by KnowVox on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 01:26:06 PM EST
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Re: Correction (none / 0)

Oh, indeed. I say both.

"Fraud (noun): A person who makes deceitful pretenses."

"Hack (noun): A mediocre and disdained writer."

Fits the bill on both counts.


"There's something horrible and undefeatable about people who have no life except the worship of power. People who don't want the meeting to end."
by campaignmonitor on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 01:33:02 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Correction (2.00 / 2)

Intersting words to describe yourself.


I'm United Methodist. I already have a Messiah.
by KnowVox on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 02:26:20 PM EST
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Re: Correction (none / 0)

Without being a little snipe, I'm happy to respond to why you think me a fraud and a hack.  Although, I'm sure I understand why you consider me a hack ("A mediocre and disdained writer.").  Why the fraud part, pray?


"There's something horrible and undefeatable about people who have no life except the worship of power. People who don't want the meeting to end."
by campaignmonitor on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 02:36:42 PM EST
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Re: Correction (none / 0)

Are you kidding? You lifted this entire piece of someone else's work.


I'm United Methodist. I already have a Messiah.
by KnowVox on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 02:57:17 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Eeeek. (none / 0)

I'm not a fan of hers by any stretch of the imagination, but this strikes me as over the line. I mean, porn? Who the hell cares?

My guess would be that this won't be received well.


"This election is not about ideology, it's about competence." -Michael Dukakis
by MBNYC on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:00:04 AM EST

Re: Eeeek. (none / 0)

Her claim to be an "author" is based on her time working for porn site.


"There's something horrible and undefeatable about people who have no life except the worship of power. People who don't want the meeting to end."
by campaignmonitor on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:08:58 AM EST
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Re: Eeeek. (2.00 / 2)

And she wrote a book about it. Many people write books about their experiences.


I'm United Methodist. I already have a Messiah.
by KnowVox on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:12:11 AM EST
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Re: Eeeek. (none / 0)

I have nothing wrong with pron, but it was interesting to learn that her book and radio show were "vanity" projects.

Taylor seems like she would be the life of the party, and I look forward to her work for Obama in the Fall.

She has already come out in saying that he would make a great VP . . . and a great VP must also make a great President on Day 1.1.


NO 100 year WAR, NO McConnell run Senate, & NO GOP-led Supreme Court!!!
by Veteran75 on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:22:40 AM EST
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Re: Eeeek. (none / 0)

typo -

pron=porn

'-}


NO 100 year WAR, NO McConnell run Senate, & NO GOP-led Supreme Court!!!
by Veteran75 on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:23:06 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Eeeek. (none / 0)

I thought you were protecting us against the porn-bots.


unapologetic Obama supporter
by dantes on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 01:21:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Eeeek. (none / 0)

er... pron-bots.


unapologetic Obama supporter
by dantes on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 01:21:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Eeeek. (none / 0)

I reject and denounce pron-bots!

Now . . . porn-bots . . . hmmm???


NO 100 year WAR, NO McConnell run Senate, & NO GOP-led Supreme Court!!!
by Veteran75 on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 02:06:49 PM EST
[ Parent ]

I don't agree with a lot you have to say (2.00 / 2)

but this is disgusting. Shame on you.
by linc on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:23:11 AM EST
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Yeah, but... (2.00 / 2)

...who cares?

This primary is going to be over soon, and when it is, I'd like to be able to work with various participants on the other side of the fence, including Marsh. Having her damaged, objectively damaged in a way useful to the right, as The Porn Lady, isn't conducive to that goal.


"This election is not about ideology, it's about competence." -Michael Dukakis
by MBNYC on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:26:22 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Yeah, but... (none / 0)

Taylor Marsh is a hack.  I won't give what she writes any credence, no matter who the nominee is.  She's proven herself, time and again, incapable of rational thought.


"There's something horrible and undefeatable about people who have no life except the worship of power. People who don't want the meeting to end."
by campaignmonitor on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:29:12 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Yeah, but... (none / 0)

Cumbayah is great; but I would much rather we know who we're getting into bed with (no pun intended) in advance instead of allowing Rove to bring this up about a campaign advisor.  

I have to say, I don't have a problem with this diary.  Despite the acknowledgments of bias in advance; it presents a great deal of objective facts.  Maybe I've been hiding under a rock; but my political awareness of Ms. Marsh is barely recognizing of her name.  From this diary, however, I'm not inclined to seek out her advice or analysis.


Nos causidicus Obama , ergo nos non suadeo
by rb608 on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:51:02 AM EST
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Re: Eeeek. (none / 0)

Working for porn is legitimate and people do write about their work experiences and parlay that into a nice book contract. I do agree if that the book was self published and it did not sell any real copies to people not part of her friends and family network, then it is not a real published book.


by Pravin on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 12:15:44 PM EST
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Re: Taylor Marsh: Fraud or Hack? (2.00 / 4)

She has all of this up on her 'about' page on the website and had a whole blog post up on it.

So you know what this is....it's a hit piece, you hack AND FRAUDULENT political 'writer'.


by apolitik on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:01:17 AM EST

Re: Taylor Marsh: Fraud or Hack? (none / 0)

Actually, that's not at all true.  She does not have all of this up on her 'about' page.  That page, for example, states "In 2002 Marsh launched her radio show in Las Vegas." but it sure as hell does not mention the nature of the broadcast station.  Nor does that page mention that she paid to have her book published.  In fact, there's damned little if this background information on her page.  

Now if you want to argue the veracity of the piece, go ahead; but don't tell me that Marsh has been up front about any of this on her web page.

I'm kind of in agreement with the diarist.  Despite any of this info, good or bad, I agree she's done a hell of a job in packaging and selling herself.


Nos causidicus Obama , ergo nos non suadeo
by rb608 on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:59:49 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Taylor Marsh: Fraud or Hack? (none / 0)

She did mention all of this in a blog post. Her book is well known enough that you can easily find it.  This is a low brow kind of politics that is not even necessary. So someone did porn, who cares?


by apolitik on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 03:12:14 PM EST
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Re: Taylor Marsh: Fraud or Hack? (none / 0)

She did mention all of this in a blog post. Her book is well known enough that you can easily find it.
Why would I go looking for it?  Coming from the perspective of one who was not familiar with Marsh, I surely would not have read that particular blog post; and I'd never heard of her book.  All I knew of her was that she was some sort of blogger/commentator.  

I don't care about the porn thing at all.  If I could get money for my body (a huge hypothetical), I'd probably consider it myself.

The only things that bother me about these tales is the notion that she portrays herself as an author and a radio host when the basis for those distinctions was bought and not earned; and that information is not on her web page.  

I busted my ass getting a college degree part-time, at night while working a full time job; and I actually once broke up with a woman (partially) when I found out she had lied about having a degree to get her job.  I have expectations that accolades should be genuine and earned, not simply paid for as a marketing campaign.   Hell, I'm an ordained clergy by virtue of $20 and an online church; but I don't put "Preacher" on my resume.

If this diary is accurate on those two items, that substantially detracts from Marsh's character and credibility in my eyes.


Nos causidicus Obama , ergo nos non suadeo
by rb608 on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 04:36:16 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Taylor Marsh: Fraud or Hack? (2.00 / 0)

Well-said.


"There's something horrible and undefeatable about people who have no life except the worship of power. People who don't want the meeting to end."
by campaignmonitor on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 04:43:33 PM EST
[ Parent ]

CampaignMonitor: Fraud or Hack? (1.75 / 8)

The only "fraud AND hack" here is the diarist.


I'm United Methodist. I already have a Messiah.
by KnowVox on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:02:11 AM EST

Re: CampaignMonitor: Fraud or Hack? (none / 0)

Don't ad-hominen attack other posters. It is against the rules here and you'll be banned.


by Flapper on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:03:03 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re:Fraud or Hack? (2.00 / 6)

The entire diary is an ad hominen attack on progressive Democrats.

Taylor Marsh and the ass-kissing dittoes of her Hillary-backing fan club


I'm United Methodist. I already have a Messiah.
by KnowVox on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:09:41 AM EST
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Re:Fraud or Hack? (2.00 / 0)

How do you figure?  The article is an expose on Taylor Marsh, not on progressive Democrats.


"There's something horrible and undefeatable about people who have no life except the worship of power. People who don't want the meeting to end."
by campaignmonitor on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:10:20 AM EST
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Re:Fraud or Hack? (2.00 / 1)

Fine. I'll be glad to write a similar hit piece on Donna Brazile and make the same argument.


I'm United Methodist. I already have a Messiah.
by KnowVox on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:17:21 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re:Fraud or Hack? (1.00 / 1)

Are you in middle school?  Are you comparing Donna Brazille's credential's with TM?  The article shows how TM's claims to be an "author" and a "radio host" are misleading BS.


"There's something horrible and undefeatable about people who have no life except the worship of power. People who don't want the meeting to end."
by campaignmonitor on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:30:18 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re:Fraud or Hack? (2.00 / 1)

If you're arguing Taylor Marsh is a paid political hack, the same argument can be made about Brazile.  


I'm United Methodist. I already have a Messiah.
by KnowVox on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:39:29 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re:Fraud or Hack? (none / 0)

No it can't.


by Mostly on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:41:04 AM EST
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Re:Fraud or Hack? (none / 0)

Wow, take it to the next level, eh?  I never said she was a "paid political hack".  I said she was a hack, of which the definition is "A mediocre and disdained writer".


"There's something horrible and undefeatable about people who have no life except the worship of power. People who don't want the meeting to end."
by campaignmonitor on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:48:16 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re:Fraud or Hack? (none / 0)

many of your friends on MYDD keep attacking progressive democrats personally if they are not aligned with Hillary.


by Pravin on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 12:19:49 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Sorry - She's not a democrat (none / 0)

she's a freeper. Her website proves it. Just follow any anti-obama link there and you'll find it goes to other Obama-Hate sites or to Right-Wing-Hates sites. That make her a Freeper.

And you are attacking a Poster here... that is not the same as the poster putting up a diary about some sleazy-bag who pretends to be a radio host who cares about woman-issues.


by Flapper on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:12:14 AM EST
[ Parent ]

She's a Progressive Democrat (1.75 / 4)

And the only reason some so-called progressives are personally attacking her is because she's not backing "their" candidate.


I'm United Methodist. I already have a Messiah.
by KnowVox on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:18:50 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: She's a Progressive Democrat (none / 0)

No, because she's a biased, unqualified hack.


"There's something horrible and undefeatable about people who have no life except the worship of power. People who don't want the meeting to end."
by campaignmonitor on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:30:57 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: CampaignMonitor: Fraud or Hack? (none / 0)

Universal was banned.  She's not a poster here anymore.


NJ Hussein Independent
by NJIndependent on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 12:32:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: CampaignMonitor: Fraud or Hack? (none / 0)

Don't get too bent out of shape, I'm just passing it on.


"There's something horrible and undefeatable about people who have no life except the worship of power. People who don't want the meeting to end."
by campaignmonitor on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:09:42 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Personal attacks on folks who express ideas (2.00 / 2)

are probably not the best thing to "pass on". You'd have a lot more credibility debating her on what she says instead of attacking her life history.


by grannyhelen on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:24:10 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Personal attacks on folks who express ideas (none / 0)

Problem being, she doesn't engage in rational thought.  There is no defeating someone who won't have an honest debate.


"There's something horrible and undefeatable about people who have no life except the worship of power. People who don't want the meeting to end."
by campaignmonitor on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:31:40 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Have you tried? (2.00 / 3)

and I'll ask you this: do you really think anything in this piece you posted displays rational thought?

It was written based in anger by someone who has an axe to grind. Doesn't sound too rational to me.

If you want to spread rational thought - a laudable goal - why not spread posts written with that in mind, instead of ones written to dehumanize?


by grannyhelen on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:36:19 AM EST
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Re: Have you tried? (none / 0)

I do post a lot of diaries on topics that make rational arguments.  If you ever read TM's posts, you'd see that see doesn't engage in rational thought.  All she does is post blind Hillary support pieces and completely ginned up Obama hit pieces.

As to this "written to dehumanize", how is this written to "dehumanize", of which the definition is "Deprive of human qualities".  She's perfectly human, just a hack and a fraud.


"There's something horrible and undefeatable about people who have no life except the worship of power. People who don't want the meeting to end."
by campaignmonitor on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:43:06 AM EST
[ Parent ]

It is a hit piece (2.00 / 1)

written in anger to incite hatred toward the individual. That is dehumanization.

Again - have to run some errands. Consider the reasons why you support Obama, and then consider how those reasons stack up with posting hit pieces on people whose only sin is spirited disagreement.

Peace.


by grannyhelen on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:55:15 AM EST
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Re: It is a hit piece (none / 0)

As I noted above, I have to take exception to your language there.  Dehumaniize is not the right word.  What are you really trying to say?


"There's something horrible and undefeatable about people who have no life except the worship of power. People who don't want the meeting to end."
by campaignmonitor on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:56:50 AM EST
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Re: Personal attacks on folks who express ideas (2.00 / 2)

Doesn't engage in rational thought? SAys who? YOU?

Won't have an honest debate? You obviously have not talked to her.

All this steams frm jealousy of her audience and the fact that she doesn't back your guy and says so.

Who's the hack?


by americanincanada on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:42:09 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Personal attacks on folks who express ideas (none / 0)

Why would I have "jealousy of her audience"?


"There's something horrible and undefeatable about people who have no life except the worship of power. People who don't want the meeting to end."
by campaignmonitor on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:43:46 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Personal attacks on folks who express ideas (none / 0)

Can't agree here.  I don't see this as 'attacking' her personal history so much as exposing it.  I don't see it as attacking her personally so much as challenging her credentials to have that debate you suggest.  

I'm previously unaware of Marsh, so I don't have a frame of reference for what's behind the hubub; but I'd say that anyone who gains a national audience for their views may be rightly scrutinized to determine if they are who they say they are.  If Marsh is merely a marketing product of herself with zero academic or professional bona fides to speak on serious topics, I think that's relevant.


Nos causidicus Obama , ergo nos non suadeo
by rb608 on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 12:09:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Personal attacks on folks who express ideas (none / 0)

No, grannyhelen, I think it's important to know her background. Taylor is very personal in her attacks on Obama and others. I visited her website early in the primary to defend John Edwards and she attacked me personally, rather than the merits of what I wrote. She is pockmark on progressives. She exploited the Jeremiah Wright issue. It was disgusting. She needs to be exposed, then people can decide for themselves to support her or not.  I prefer not, hope this information about her gets wide exposure.  


by santamonicadem on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 12:45:19 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Taylor Swamp (1.33 / 3)

Taylor Swamp is a better name for this low-life smut-merchant.

How can she possibly pretend to be for Woman's Rights when she is involved in the Porn buisness?

I'm disgused by this person calling herself a Democrat, let alone Progressive!


by Flapper on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:02:16 AM EST

Re: Taylor Swamp (2.00 / 3)

Oh please. Put your faux outrage away. I know many women who are feminists who are in the porn industry.

Taylor, however, is not in the industry. You might want to read somethings and do some research before you hit post...


by americanincanada on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:07:54 AM EST
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Re: Taylor Swamp (none / 0)

She was in a porn movie but she worked for a porn site.  I agree with you that feminists can work in the porn industry.


"There's something horrible and undefeatable about people who have no life except the worship of power. People who don't want the meeting to end."
by campaignmonitor on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:12:26 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Someone seems jealous (2.00 / 4)

of someone else's audience.


by Mayor McCheese on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:03:23 AM EST

BINGO! (2.00 / 2)

From John Brown of Kansas, the original author:

I'd like an audience, too. Right now, this little new free blog brings me about 30-50 people per day. She gets 10X that many comments on every post because she's willing to pitch herself like crazy.

I could do that, but I don't. Now I'm wondering why.



I'm United Methodist. I already have a Messiah.
by KnowVox on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:34:01 AM EST
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Re: Taylor Marsh: Fraud or Hack? (2.00 / 4)

Obsess much?  Get a life, your tormented soul will thank you.


by Caldonia on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:07:15 AM EST

Re: Taylor Marsh: Fraud or Hack? (none / 0)

Just passing it on.


"There's something horrible and undefeatable about people who have no life except the worship of power. People who don't want the meeting to end."
by campaignmonitor on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:09:19 AM EST
[ Parent ]

"just passing it on" (2.00 / 3)

You keep repeating that.

I don't read Taylor Marsh, I have vague knowledge of who she is, but this is downright character assassination.

"Just passing it on" was the defense of folks who forwarded the "Obama / Muslim" emails.  Are you relegating yourself to their ranks?

Just because someone lets a fart in church doesn't mean that you are required to 'pass it on'.


Hell's bells, even the GOP didn't have to crucify Eisenhower's record in order to make Reagan their 'saint'. We can have two great ones, you know?
by emsprater on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:20:24 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: "just passing it on" (2.00 / 0)

Sigh.  If you actually read the above and think this is like the Obama emails, you're not playing with a full deck.  Even Hillary's supporters here say the content of the above is true.  The Muslim emails were NOT true.  Simple to understand.


"There's something horrible and undefeatable about people who have no life except the worship of power. People who don't want the meeting to end."
by campaignmonitor on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:27:23 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: "just passing it on" (none / 0)

Simple to understand.
Few mistakes have caused me more grief than assuming the above to be true.


Nos causidicus Obama , ergo nos non suadeo
by rb608 on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 12:13:05 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: "just passing it on" (none / 0)

If "Even Hillary's supporters here say the content of the above is true.  The Muslim emails were NOT true" this is not "simple to understand" for you, I worry.


"There's something horrible and undefeatable about people who have no life except the worship of power. People who don't want the meeting to end."
by campaignmonitor on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 12:15:11 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: "just passing it on" (none / 0)

You misunderstand me.  I agree it's simple to understand.  I've been frequently dismayed that others have not found it so.


Nos causidicus Obama , ergo nos non suadeo
by rb608 on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 12:34:48 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: "just passing it on" (2.00 / 0)

Oops!  Sorry, my bad :).  I find myself equally dismayed.


"There's something horrible and undefeatable about people who have no life except the worship of power. People who don't want the meeting to end."
by campaignmonitor on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 12:40:10 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Taylor Marsh: Fraud or Hack? (2.00 / 1)

lol wow, who ever wrote this really doesn't like Taylor Marsh does he?

lol yeah i don't agree with her either, I think she willfully misleads, or allows her audience to get misled and then not correct them.

but sheesh this was long and I didn't read it


Obama said, as Bill beamed. "Thank you, President Clinton."
by TruthMatters on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:10:00 AM EST

Re: Taylor Marsh: Fraud or Hack? (none / 0)

I'd read it.  It's interesting.  Two main points.  Her claim to be an "author" and "radio host" is factually correct but highly misleading.


"There's something horrible and undefeatable about people who have no life except the worship of power. People who don't want the meeting to end."
by campaignmonitor on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:11:21 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Taylor Marsh: Fraud or Hack? (2.00 / 1)

p.s. if most of this isn't yours just delete the diary, there is no point to post someone else stuff, you could have easily just linked it

and HRC supporters will stand by TM, and the rest of us already know her for who she is, so this diary isn't really necessary

seriously Both this site and that site don't even know what it means to oversample in a poll, that right there tells you how much she should be commenting on politics.


Obama said, as Bill beamed. "Thank you, President Clinton."
by TruthMatters on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:11:42 AM EST

Delete it cause Truth hurts? (1.00 / 1)

or doesn't truth matter?


by Flapper on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:14:24 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Delete it cause Truth hurts? (none / 0)

no delete because its not his diary, I already said if he has a problem fine say it in HIS own words.

I think Taylor marsh is a hack, and I wrote a diary about it at daily kos, and i used MY own words.

if she has a problem fine tell us why, don't just post someone else hit piece.


Obama said, as Bill beamed. "Thank you, President Clinton."
by TruthMatters on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:25:57 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Taylor Marsh: Fraud or Hack? (2.00 / 2)

There are standards as to who gets to comment on politics? Why qualifies KO to do commentary?


by Mayor McCheese on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:30:38 AM EST
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Re: Taylor Marsh: Fraud or Hack? (none / 0)

Why qualifies KO to do commentary?
Well, for starters, he has a Bachelor's Degree in Communication Arts, whatever the hell that is, (but I guarantee he didn't buy that online.)

He's been in broadcast journalism for 27 years, being paid to be there, not vice versa.  His background in sports journalism is well known, not obscured; and it is, despite the subject, journalism.  He's been covering "hard" news for 5 years, four of which passed before his first "Special Comment".  

What qualifies KO to do documentary?  Honesty, awareness, and a decades-long career as a professional journalist.

So since you brought it up, what qualifies Marsh?


Nos causidicus Obama , ergo nos non suadeo
by rb608 on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 12:23:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Taylor Marsh: Fraud or Hack? (2.00 / 7)

This is nothing more than a direct attack on another bloggers personal life because of her sincere beliefs. This is contemptible and totally out of bounds of American civil life.

"I'll be honest with you, though.  I wasn't motivated by pure curiosity.  I had an ax to grind.  Day after day, I find the ramblings of Taylor Marsh and the ass-kissing dittoes of her Hillary-backing fan club more and more irritating.  Her remarks are, in my estimation, another sympton of Hillary-induced soul cancer.  I think Taylor Marsh sucks."

This is contemptible and totally out of bounds of American civil life.

The MYDD community has to reject this. Please contact admins.


by EdgeCurrent on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:12:47 AM EST

Re: Taylor Marsh: Fraud or Hack? (none / 0)

By what measure would you find this "out of bounds of American civil life"?  The author simply addresses some of TM's claims to authority, e.g., that she's an "author" and a "radio host".  If you'll read the rules, this does not violate the terms of use.


"There's something horrible and undefeatable about people who have no life except the worship of power. People who don't want the meeting to end."
by campaignmonitor on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:15:50 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Taylor Marsh: Fraud or Hack? (2.00 / 3)

oh jeez, just delete the diary, none of it is your words anyway, you basically posted someone else's diary

if you have a problem with Marsh, fine but use your own words


Obama said, as Bill beamed. "Thank you, President Clinton."
by TruthMatters on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:18:49 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Taylor Marsh: Fraud or Hack? (2.00 / 1)

Taylor makes no claims of authority on anything other than what she believes. A blogger has no obligation to reveal any information about themselves, not even their name. Who are you campaignmonitor ? JohnBrown ?

I don't think I really want to know. Your post tells me enough.


by EdgeCurrent on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 12:04:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Taylor Marsh: Fraud or Hack? (2.00 / 1)

Why don't you check out her bio page before you type rashly.  She claims, as support for her aura of authority, that she is an "author" and former "radio host".   If this is false or misleading, it should be revealed.

As an earlier commenter said, she does not the accurate info up on her 'about' page.  That page, for example, states "In 2002 Marsh launched her radio show in Las Vegas." but it sure as hell does not mention the nature of the broadcast station.  Nor does that page mention that she paid to have her book published.  In fact, there's damned little if this background information on her page.  


"There's something horrible and undefeatable about people who have no life except the worship of power. People who don't want the meeting to end."
by campaignmonitor on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 12:07:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Taylor Marsh: Fraud or Hack? (none / 0)

PS.  To this "A blogger has no obligation to reveal any information about themselves, not even their name."  Of course they don't.  But when they do, it is perfectly valid to fact check their claims.


"There's something horrible and undefeatable about people who have no life except the worship of power. People who don't want the meeting to end."
by campaignmonitor on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 12:08:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]

No sir. (none / 0)

This is nothing more than a direct attack on another bloggers personal life because of her sincere beliefs.
This is an expose of her professional life.  I'll not deny the personal bias of the diarist, for he makes those clear in the beginning; but this diary attacks nothing but her professional qualifications to do what she has promoted herself as being competent to do.


Nos causidicus Obama , ergo nos non suadeo
by rb608 on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 12:27:07 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Well, yeah... (none / 0)

but he said so, quite clearly. Looks like full disclosure was made. It is what it is. Interesting how some flock to the defense of this gal and call it a "hit piece" - as though she should be immune from such things? - when damn near everything she writes is slavishly supportive of HRC or relentlessly bashing Obama (yes, those are "hit pieces", kids). What's good for the goose....


by SuperTex on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:17:10 AM EST

Thanks for the Info - spreading the word (1.00 / 3)

I'll be helping to spread the word about Taylor Swamp!

"Fraud, Fake and Filthy - Taylor Marsh : Who in the hell is this woman?"

http://www.jabberwonk.com/flinker.cfm?cl iid=1fqm0n

thanks for pointing out her sorid past.


by Flapper on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:18:50 AM EST

Troll Rating Abuser (none / 0)

Abusing the TR will get you banned here. Watch it or I'll turn you in to the GateKeepers.


by Flapper on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:25:34 AM EST
[ Parent ]

ken starr! is that you? (2.00 / 1)

i was wondering what you were doing these days.

taylor has responded to this drivel- go check out her site. basically, she says that this information has been publicly available forever, and she herself is the main source of it. she isn't trying to hide anything, despite the best efforts of this hatchet job's author to make it look like a vast conspiracy.  she also basically tells the author to blow it out his ass. in a ladylike manner, of course.


by campskunk on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:24:55 AM EST

blow it out... like a ping-pong ball? eom (none / 0)


by Flapper on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:26:16 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Next UP (none / 0)

This guy needs to do an expose on HillIS44 owner Alex R. - Most people don't know that he is a former Perot operative with no love for the Democratic party.


NO 100 year WAR, NO McConnell run Senate, & NO GOP-led Supreme Court!!!
by Veteran75 on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:25:37 AM EST

Hillaryis44 is a scammer site (none / 0)

Hillaryis44.org is front for on-line pharmaceutical scammer - view source to see hidden links

http://www.jabberwonk.com/flinker.cfm?cl iid=voaxc

It's quite funny. This dude is playing up the Obama-Hate not to promote Hillary but to make money from the site visitors by scamming them.

I think it is hillaryious!


by Flapper on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:28:22 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Hillaryis44 is a scammer site (none / 0)

I know . . . I am waiting for Al Giordano . . . or someone other than Ben Smith to expose Alex R..

I read the HillIS44 comments daily . . . and it is SOOOO obvious how Alex is manipulating the HRC partisans on there. I feel sorry for them.

Every know and then a level-headed HRC supporter calls them on the divisive/racist tone . . . and they get shouted down for being a troll.


NO 100 year WAR, NO McConnell run Senate, & NO GOP-led Supreme Court!!!
by Veteran75 on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:43:31 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Taylor Marsh: Fraud or Hack? (2.00 / 4)

so let me get this straight?  your ax to grind is that you don't agree with her, so you dig up her history and spin it in a negative way?  hhmm - thank goodness im in canada.


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:26:19 AM EST

Re: Taylor Marsh: Fraud or Hack? (none / 0)

"dig up her history and spin it in a negative way".  That is rich.  If you read the article, you'd note that it is debunking her "spinning up" her fake credentials.  You or I could be an author if we gave a site money to print our book.  You or I could be a "radio host" if we paid a radio station to play our tape.


"There's something horrible and undefeatable about people who have no life except the worship of power. People who don't want the meeting to end."
by campaignmonitor on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:39:24 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re" "John Brown of Kansas" (2.00 / 1)

That's also character assassination.


I'm United Methodist. I already have a Messiah.
by KnowVox on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:29:40 AM EST

Re: Taylor Marsh: Fraud or Hack? (2.00 / 2)

he has an ax to grind because she supports Clinton, period. That is all there is to it. All his other claims about her and her being 'biased' go from there.

She is a Clinton partisan and says so. If we are going after bloggers for being biased then we should start at Kos and go from there..


by americanincanada on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:40:02 AM EST

How utterly pathetic (2.00 / 5)

I'll be honest with you, though.  I wasn't motivated by pure curiosity.  I had an ax to grind.  Day after day, I find the ramblings of Taylor Marsh and the ass-kissing dittoes of her Hillary-backing fan club more and more irritating.  Her remarks are, in my estimation, another sympton of Hillary-induced soul cancer.  I think Taylor Marsh sucks.

You know, I don't even read Taylor Marsh.  I saw her once in a panel at YKos and that's about it.  So I have no dog in this fight.

But this is one of the creepiest and most pathetic diaries I've ever read.  God God, I find it so creepy when men decide to take down a woman and become obsessed with it.  


I'd like an audience, too.  Right now, this little new free blog brings me about 30-50 people per day.  She gets 10X that many comments on every post because she's willing to pitch herself like crazy.

I could do that, but I don't.  Now I'm wondering why.

You see, I am the author of countless published pieces (many ghostwritten for others, but what the hell).  I'm an award-winning blogger (not this one).

God God, go and do it man!  [ SHUDDER ]


by joanneleon on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:42:20 AM EST

Re: How utterly pathetic (2.00 / 0)

Wow is there anything you don't see through the prism of gender?


by XoFalconXo on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:52:49 AM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: How utterly pathetic (none / 0)

I think that if you got to know me, you would find that there is no such overarching bias or overused prism in my character.


by joanneleon on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 04:03:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: How utterly pathetic (none / 0)

Then how can you post crap like this "I find it so creepy when men decide to take down a woman and become obsessed with it."  So, because she's a woman, she's immune to scrutiny?  So, because she's a woman, we should just STFU and let her say whatever she wants?  My mother was a feminist pioneer and she cannot stand the disgusting strand of pre-feminist victimhood coming out from under the rug in simple defense of Hillary Clinton.


"There's something horrible and undefeatable about people who have no life except the worship of power. People who don't want the meeting to end."
by campaignmonitor on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 04:10:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: How utterly pathetic (none / 0)

There is an instinct in women that develops -- call it a survival instinct.  I'm not sure how well it's developed in all women and it might be more sensitive in women who have dealt with men who have issues with women, men who are abusive, etc.  That instinct caused my radar to go off when I read the words of this author.  He was out to utterly destroy this woman if he could, and for what exactly?  Does that seem like a rational and healthy reaction?

I'm not sure about your mother, her beliefs, her opinion on this particular author, etc. and I don't know why you bring her up here.  She can't lend you credibility.  You have to earn that yourself.  Let's just say that in my opinion, by promoting this article, IMHO, your creds aren't the best.


by joanneleon on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 04:46:09 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: How utterly pathetic (none / 0)

I bring her up because you're engaging in the same "oh no!  the boys are bullying me again!" victimology that HRC has been using, yes using, to manipulate and pull along her female supporters.  The feminism that my mother stood for is that a woman can be a woman, play and work in the world equally with a man, and not have resort to cries to feminine solidarity so replete in statements like "oh no!  the boys are bullying me again!"

The instinct you describe, if not kept in check, is exactly the same instinct that HRC is so masterfully strumming during this election.  Let yourself be your own voice.


"There's something horrible and undefeatable about people who have no life except the worship of power. People who don't want the meeting to end."
by campaignmonitor on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 04:52:31 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: How utterly pathetic (none / 0)

I disagree with your assessment that HRC is using "victimology".

I'm fully aware that women can work and play fairly with men.  My college degree and profession are male dominated.  I have many male friends and colleagues.

I agree that the instinct can be out of whack at times, but personally I think that this is not one of those cases.

Take a look at this YouTube video, for example, and tell me more about false claims of victimology: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcdnlNZg2 iM

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by joanneleon on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 05:36:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: How utterly pathetic (none / 0)

What, in particular, about the diary sent your "sexism" alarm a-ringin'?

I've read and re-read the article and there is no overt or implicit sexist comments in there.


by XoFalconXo on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 06:02:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: How utterly pathetic (none / 0)

The only thing I can figure is that TM is a woman.  No other indication as to why.  I guess it's just bad to criticize a woman.


"There's something horrible and undefeatable about people who have no life except the worship of power. People who don't want the meeting to end."
by campaignmonitor on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 07:50:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]

I think TM is just as batshit crazy as anyone else (none / 0)

But this diary is silly b/c the author should know it will backfire. TM will now play this for the next 6 months as the "sexist" blogosphere trying to shut women down.

I don't agree with 99% of the stuff she has on her website but she has a right to do it, and if people are crazy enough to think that she offers some special insight into the race or politics in general, then more power to them. I'd rather they be in their own little corner, than polluting everyone else's favorite blogs :)


by highgrade on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:42:32 AM EST

Re: I think TM is just as batshit crazy as anyone (none / 0)

True enough, we've seen enough of that victim terrorism in this campaign.


"There's something horrible and undefeatable about people who have no life except the worship of power. People who don't want the meeting to end."
by campaignmonitor on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:45:39 AM EST
[ Parent ]

She misspoke. (none / 0)

About the author thing and about being a radio host.

The day she gets a paying radio gig will be her first day as a radio host.

The day she sells the rights to her next book is the first day she'll be a published author.

So who is paying her? What does she do for a living?

The Las Vegas Sun asked during the Nevada caucus if she was being paid this election season through AFSCME, as she had been paid by AFSCME for some work previously. It is not clear if she is or has been on the AFSCME payroll.


by Bob Johnson on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:44:24 AM EST

Re: Taylor Marsh: Fraud or Hack? (none / 0)

She has an awfully funny way of being a "progressive democrat".  She digs up dirt on Obama and his wife, and then her readers email it off to Fox News.

A while back she had a diary entry to the effect of "this is who you're fighting against", and it linked to a youtube video of some obnoxious "Obama supporter" spewing sexist epithets at Hillary Clinton.  The whole exercise was to rile up her readers and make any kind of rational understanding impossible.

That being said, I don't understand the point of this diary.


by Mostly on Wed Apr 09, 2008 at 11:45:35 AM EST

Re: Taylor Marsh: Fraud or Hack? (2.00 / 2)

it is mighty strange that FleaFlicker and others have got banned for writing  diaries with attacks on the candidate and this guy writes this diary which is nothing but character assassination of a person this guy does not even know. Is this what Democratic unity from the Obama lens looks like? Character assassination? Ken Starr? Red State? Freeperville?