Journalism or Tabloids?

Folks, here we are again.

Yesterday was a rough day for our opponent.  Hillary is surging in all polls, particularly North Carolina.  And Barack's just had another public-relations disaster of his own making.  So, we know what that means, right?

Time for distraction.

And, since we're headed into the Deep South:

The issue of race is bound to come up.

Sometimes, what happens in the blogosphere is akin to the old telephone game.  What begins as reasonable reporting gets distorted by one partisan, then another, until the end result is a complete breakdown of truth and misrepresentation of the facts.  That is what Bob Johnson has done for us, in his most recent diary, here.

According to the other-Bob (my evil twin?):

Clinton backers are trying to disenfranchise black voters

The source for this was the following, as originally reported:

The call's suggestion that they're not registered has caused widespread confusion and drawn hundreds of complaints, including many from African-American voters who received the calls.

So, is the list actually targetting African Americans, as Bob Johnson says?  Or do we have a list that just happens to have some African Americans on it, some of whom have complained?  Well, the original piece at Facing South has the answer: "Wildly inaccurate mailing lists, supposedly aimed at 'unregistered single women,' but in reality reaching many registered voters as well as families, deceased persons and pets."  

For anyone to whom journalistic integrity were important, we would certainly need more information before fielding wild and inflammatory accusation that Hillary Clinton is attempting an evil scheme to disenfranchise Blacks.  Bob Johnson left his standards at the door.  And so, he took the liberty of morphing "wildly inaccurate" into "targeting Blacks."

In fact, here's the kicker!  The individual breaking the story?  The one that provided audio of the robo-call?  Yeah, he's white.  He also happens to be a Chair of the North Carolina DNC.  As he is a partisan player, it would be interesting to know which candidate, if any, he supports.

But this is the sort of information you only learn if you are concerned with the truth, rather than baseless drama-making.

As for whether this organization is being directed by Hillary, or anyone at her campaign?  That sure seems flimsy.  The evidence Bob Johnson offers us is as follows.  Exhibit A: Several people in this organization have ties to the former Clinton administration!  Debunk: so do most of the members of Obama's campaign.  Exhibit B: One of the women involved in this project donated money to Hillary's campaign.  Debunk: so have I.  That doesn't mean Hillary directs my action, nor does it mean that I speak for her campaign.  (The article also notes that another prominent member of this group has donated to both candidates.)

And this brings us to the ultimate litmus test: common sense.  How exactly does this scheme work?  According to Bob Johnson, we target people who have already registered to vote, and ask them to go register to vote.  This disenfranchises them because, apparently, they become so confused that they simply forget to vote (or are too depressed to vote?) on election night.

I'll be honest: I don't get it.

So folks, when the Obama campaign has a bad day, expect drama, expect distractions, and you can even expect a healthy dose of race-baiting (think of it as the salt and pepper sprinkled on top).  Rather than get angry, try to remain level-headed, focus on the facts, and find out what's really going on.

As for Women's Voice, Women's Votes, let me be crystal clear.  If they have done anything in violation of the letter or spirit of any law, they must stop at once, and they should be punished as appropriate.  If they have done anything deliberate to attempt to stop people from voting, they are to be condemned by all of us - Hillary and Barack supporters - alike.  From what I have read, it seems that what they are most guilty of is having terrible quality control and inaccurate calling lists.  The group was established in 2006, before either Sen. Clinton or Sen. Obama had announced their candidacies.

Putting it another way, if this group is intent on interfering with the Democratic process, if that is their objective, then I will join hands with the most rabid Obamite in the blogosphere in an attempt to bring them down.  But we aren't there yet - what we know for sure is that this group is very disorganized.  Could it be more than that?  Yes.  But that's why we ask questions and seek answers before we reach for our pitchforks.  To suggest that Hillary is trying to disenfranchise Black voters is insulting, baseless, tabloid-style writing, nothing more.  Hillary has devoted her entire public life, preceding even her years in the White House, to increasing voter turnout and fighting against forms of voter suppression.  To borrow a phrase from her opponent, it is simply not in her DNA.

Update 1: "Bob Hall tells us that Women's Voices is now cooperating and trying to stop the North Carolina mailing." (source)

Update 2:
"There are some arguing that this was a pro-Clinton conspiracy, rather than a disruptive mistake, as the group claims; those suggestions are based in part on the fact that Maggie Williams used to be on the group's board, and that it's staffed with other former Clinton types. This seems, so far, unconvincing to me. Also on the board, for instance, is William McNary, the president of the progressive coalition USAction and a leader of Illinois Citizen Action who has been, reportedly, a vigorous Obama supporters since his 2004 Senate race.
(source)

Update 3: WVWV is registering voters for the general election, not for primaries. Therefore it is impossible that this activity has anything to do with the battle for nomination between Hillary and Barack. Learn more here, thanks to debcoop's excellent work.



Display:


Funny how they always manage (2.00 / 2)

to turn it into an exercise in race-baiting, huh?


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 02:37:01 PM EST

It's FAR from funny (2.00 / 1)

This kind of crap makes me sick.  Shame on every single BHO supporter spreading this garbage.


Unity Ticket: The best damn way to kick John McCain's Ass in November!
by aurelius on Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 02:42:20 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: It's FAR from funny (2.00 / 2)

No, not funny as in "haha", but funny as in "peculiar". The "Hillary is a racist/race-baiter" line is the most offensive thing an Obama supporter can pull. Unfortunately, the majority of them can't help but bring it up occasionally.  Shame on them indeed.


Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 02:57:15 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Funny how they always manage (2.00 / 3)

There is zero evidence that these calls targetted African Americans in particular.  In fact, all evidence is to the contrary - they aren't targetted enough, all over the map, "wildly inaccurate".  So, what is the reason for injecting race?  That is my point.


by bobbank on Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 02:42:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Funny how they always manage (none / 0)

Easy with the counter accusations. The diary was double sourced, and it was the source that said MOST the complaints came from members of the African American community.

I took nothing from it other than it being NC, and an alleged attempt to suppress a pro Obama.

To call that race baiting is just pouring fuel on the fire, and it totally discredits your attempt to  gain a moral highground.

At that your diary slips from being justified to incendiary, and hypocritical.

By the way, the other diary to get bounced off the rec list was a heartfelt opinion by Mumphrey called Racism on this Site. I didn't agree with all of it, but then that's not the point of a progressive blog. And though I know there's been a concerted and clearly organised attempt to reverse the 'race-baiting' taint, I urge supporters from both sides to step back from misusing this.

You're playing with fire - as Mumphrey's diary so amply pointed out.  


Now Loose on the Moose
by brit on Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 07:32:30 PM EST
[ Parent ]

You're mistaken (none / 0)

Read the source again, please.

It never said that MOST (your emphasis) complaints came from members of the AA community.  Let me save you the trouble:

The call's suggestion that they're not registered has caused widespread confusion and drawn hundreds of complaints, including many from African-American voters who received the calls.

Hundreds of complaints.  100?  800?  Don't know.

Including many from AA voters.  15 out of 100?  265 out of 900?  We don't know.

These words are carefully contructed to suggest racism, to throw out the bait, without actually committing the author to something that may well be factually untrue.

Indeed, the one thing we know this organization is guilty of is "wildly inaccurate" call lists - not a notion that is compatible with some devious scheme to only target AA's.  And for that matter, if it were this carefully orchestrated plot to attack AA voters, why did they call Farmer, who is not only white, but a Chair of the NC DNC??

But because of the way Bob Johnson presented it to you, you walked away with "MOST [of] the complaints came from members of the African American community."

You see what I am saying now?  That is a textbook-case for race-baiting - injecting race in for the sake of starting a fire, when it may not have been warranted at all.

Bob Johnson must have been drooling.  Visions of evil conspiracy theories and the hideous racist enemy danced in his small mind.  So he launched a smear, completely to his discredit and any who recommended that diary.


by bobbank on Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 08:33:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Journalism or Tabloids? (2.00 / 2)

yep - bob my sentiments exactly.  BO as a unifier seems like a lifetime ago.


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 02:43:00 PM EST

Thank you for this Diary Bob (2.00 / 2)


Unity Ticket: The best damn way to kick John McCain's Ass in November!
by aurelius on Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 02:43:22 PM EST

Re: Journalism or Tabloids? (1.66 / 3)

I'm starting to think that was the only long term strategy B O camp has.


by LindaSFNM on Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 02:50:56 PM EST

Recced (2.00 / 2)

I hope sanity will prevail!!


If you follow history with a long enough arc, things always get better, and the truth always prevails...Gandhi
by SevenStrings on Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 02:54:18 PM EST

Re: Journalism or Tabloids? (none / 0)

Wait a minute - I thought the audio was provided by "Lamont Williams".  Is Farmer pretending to be someone else?  Can anyone clear this up?


by NewOaklandDem on Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 02:55:39 PM EST

Re: Journalism or Tabloids? (none / 0)

Whoops, now I get it - Farmer provided the audio of the call to reporters.  Good on him.


by NewOaklandDem on Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 02:59:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Journalism or Tabloids? (2.00 / 1)

Yes that's right.

Just to clarify my thoughts on this - I agree with you that Farmer did a good thing.  But I find it hard to reconcile the fact that this robo-call reached a caucasian DNC chairman if it were really such a carefully orchestrated plot against African Americans.

Again, it just reinforces the notion that this group has terrible quality control and that it's lists are indeed "wildly inaccurate", as originally reported by Facing South.


by bobbank on Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 03:05:07 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Journalism or Tabloids? (2.00 / 1)

Well, TPM is on the case (Some indicate that they have pro-Obama bias, but I don't) - I'm quite interested in what they find.  They did a great job with the USA scandal that lead to Gonzales' resignation.


by NewOaklandDem on Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 03:12:17 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Journalism or Tabloids? (2.00 / 1)

And that's fine.  I am happy to know that we have vigilant watchdogs working to safeguard our democracy.  I have been directly involved with some of them myself (not TPM, though).

What I resent is the notion that we're going to jump through all sorts of mental hoops and suddenly we're back to the "Hillary is a racist" attack.  It was totally out of line.


by bobbank on Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 03:17:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]

"Hillary is a racist"? (2.00 / 1)

It isn't about her being racist - it's about her pattern of dishonesty in her quest for the White House.

But you knew that.


by edmandspath on Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 05:13:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: "Hillary is a racist"? (2.00 / 1)

How does this organization, which has a prominent Barack Obama supporter serving on its Board, in any way indicate anything about Hillary Clinton?

Have any answers?


by bobbank on Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 05:23:06 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Second update (2.00 / 2)

Ben Smith reports that prominent at least one prominent Obama supporter serves on the board of this organization.

Recommend this diary if you want to say "no" to the tabloid-style smear campaign that Obama supporters on myDD are attempting to wage today.

Let's get facts straight before we start launching inflammatory attacks.


by bobbank on Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 04:56:21 PM EST

Re: Second update (2.00 / 2)

Hey don't lump me in with any smear campaign. I do not approve of the smear that has been spread on this site, even those directed at Clinton.  I have been vocal about by distaste for this kind of crap (Wright, Bittergate, etc included).

I find it offensive that you would associate me with this campaign.

I do not find it the least bit suprizing, however, that it is happening considering all of the smear tear down politics that has been waged on this site against Obama.

We reap what we sow.. so this will just contribute to the escalating war of words and to the election of McCain (why don't you people just admit that is what you want and donate to his campaign).

So please people:

STOP WITH THE SMEAR CAMPAIGNS


by Why Not on Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 07:05:56 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Second update (none / 0)

Right on.


by bobbank on Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 07:12:22 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Bob's Damage Control=Finger in Dike (2.00 / 1)

Uh-oh Bob...you better call ABC and let them know about this "smear campaign"

Their piece is titled: "Suspicious Phone Messages Target Black Voters in North Carolina"

How....awkward.... for Hillary and her Phone-Bots.
by edmandspath on Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 05:22:20 PM EST

Re: Bob's Damage Control=Finger in Dike (2.00 / 1)

And for Barack, I guess, since his supporters also serve on the Board of this company?

Stop lying.


by bobbank on Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 05:23:53 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Journalism or Tabloids? (2.00 / 1)

This diary would be fine. Factually, it may have some points. We wait and see from TPM.

But though Bob Johnson's diary may turn out to be based on factually dubious sources, there is a statement in your diary which turns it into something even worse than bad journalism

Time to play the race card.

That's not even journalism, that's not even good op-ed. It's just more of the inflammatory counter accusations about race which are poisoning this campaign, and your country.

Don't tell me who started it. Stand up. Prove you can help stop it. Just strike that line from your diary, and I'll believe the moral outrage of the rest of it


Now Loose on the Moose
by brit on Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 07:38:49 PM EST

Re: Journalism or Tabloids? (none / 0)

I do believe this is a clear case of race-baiting.  And I certainly believe that Bob Johnson's intention was to take that bait and ratchet it up some.

Clinton supporters are tired of this game, Brit.  We deeply regret the decision of Barack's campaign, greatly amplified by the media, to destroy a proud legacy - the Clintons have both been leaders in the areas of civil rights and election integrity.  Having seen how much damage our opponent is willing to do, our guard is up.

However.

I will edit that line, in the spirit of one side actually listening to the other.


by bobbank on Wed Apr 30, 2008 at 08:43:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]


You are not logged in.

In order to post a comment, you must be logged in. If you have a member account, please log in to comment.

If not, you can make an account right here. It's quick and free.