in 2002 on the invasion of Iraq.

So was I.

Now do I get to run for president?  I also earned a JD!

Well, yes and no.  Certainly "content of character" can be sold as image. I think that we were all familiar with that in 2000 and 2004. Now, as I near my dotage (or whatever), I do understand the reality of "character."  It has to do with a lot more than one vote.  It is a sum total thing that does include the type of life you actually live...and, that includes close associates and influences and patterns (here: Wright, Rezko, Ayers, and anyone else?)  Why should we care? Because it fills in the blanks about someone we really know very little about.  Thats what Presidential elections often are about in one way or another.

And don't forget gas prices!  The war did more to raise gas prices than any pandering gas tax holiday could possibly overcome.  And talk of obliterating Iran (and, presumably, all their oil) doesn't help either.

JoseyJ was right, you know.

I'm not an Obama supporter...not one whit.  I started out with a soft spot for Obama after the 2004 convention but that leaning was straightened out when I realized how little experience and leadership the man actually possesses.  

However, I have enjoyed watching the Democratic nomination process play out.  There is no better theater than politics.

That having been said, when I read accounts of Obama's presser the first thing that came to mind was "desperate".  

This primary season is over.  Barack Obama is hoist on his own petard.  

You know...noone "gleefully promoted" anything in the statement above.  Perhaps, that says something about your state of emotions.

Let me say, your logic is fallible. Your conclusion, untrue.

Oh man, that makes no sense at all!  

You Obama supporters think Wright is totally justified and quoted out of context - until Obama throws him under the bus - and then all of the sudden Wright deserves it?

Politics doesn't get any more entertaining than this!

I now understand why Barack thinks some people are bitter -- he has been conditioned to think that way by the bitterness of his former Pastor, to think that some people are bitter, although Barack was not subject to this bitterness himself but was able to overcome this conditioning and escape it rahter incorporating ther engery of  inspiration goodwill and hope instead!

Obama overcame Wright's mind control?  That comment really was fantasy.

Call Dr. Spokccfor a mind meld.  Quick!

Ah, the old blame Bill and Hill excuse is back.  I wondered how long it would take to trot out. The jig is up. Go take out your anger on Rev. Wright.

And Hillary wrote Rev. Wright's speeches too.

~yawn~  The Obama followers are really boring me now.

for "is it true?" with no links to back your allusions up.

group was enslaved for centuries.

I tire of the refusal of some to see racial oppression.

Hillary Clinton sees that racial oppression continues:

Q: Is race still the most intractable issue in America?

A: It is abundantly clear that race and racism are defining challenges not only in the United States but around the world. We have made progress. You can look at this stage and see an African American, a Latino, a woman contesting for the presidency of the United States. But there is so much left to be done. And for anyone to assert that race is not a problem in America is to deny the reality in front of our very eyes. You can look at the thousands of African-Americans left behind by their government with Katrina. You can look at the opportunity gap. So, yes, we have come a long way, but, yes, we have a long way to go. The march is not finished, and I hope that all of us, the Democratic candidates, will demonstrate clearly that the work is yet to be done. And we call on everyone to be foot soldiers in that revolution to finish the job.

Betsy, [Hillary's high-school friend], and her grandfather took Hillary to hear Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. speak at the Chicago Sunday Evening Club. King talked about racial segregation in the North and the South. It was the first time Hillary, then 14, grasped the notion of Negro children being the country's poorest and most vulnerable.
If there is a single developmental thread of Hillary's political, religious, and social development, it is her belief and determination that the tragedy of race in America must be made right. What in part first attracted her to Bill Clinton was her perception that he was an unusual, enlightened Southerner who wanted to go into politics and help right the country's greatest wrong. Hillary formed many of her closest friendships with blacks; her mentor was Marian Wright Edelman, founder of the Children's Defense Fund. Later, in the White House, Hillary chose several African Americans as senior aides.

Source: A Woman in Charge, by Carl Bernstein, p. 31 Jun 5, 2007

 1962: met MLK Jr. preaching a sermon in Chicago
In 1962, Don Jones, the youth minister at Hillary's church took Hillary and her class to hear a speech by Martin Luther King Jr. The civil rights pioneer preached a sermon titled "Sleeping Through the Revolution," and the experience gave Jones the opportunity to leave another indelible mark on his pupils. "I wanted them to become aware of the social revolution that was taking place. It was an opportunity for them to meet a great person. Park Ridge was sleeping through the greatest social revolutio this country has ever had."
In his speech, Dr. King said too many Americans were like Rip Van Winkle, snoozing through the changes happening around them.

That night was one Hillary would never forget, particularly because of the moment after the speech, when Jones shocked the teen and her comrades by arranging to have them briefly meet with King. Later in life, Hillary would remark that these experiences opened her eyes "as a teenager to other people and the way they live which affected me."

Source: God and Hillary Clinton, by Paul Kengor, p. 17 Jul 18, 2007

1965: brought black classmates to all-white church

In 1965, Hillary invited a black classmate to attend church services with her at the Methodist church, a move that raised eyebrows. Don Jones later recalled that the Park Ridge Methodist folks were bothered because Hillary seemed to make the move "not out of goodwill" but simply to shock a "lily-white church." She told Jones she was genuinely interested in her minority classmates, and today, schoolmates like Karen Williamson speak warmly of Hillary: "She was a friend. As a black woman going to Wellesley at the time friends were very welcome. All the black students felt we had a close friendship in Hillary." They also sensed something more: "A lot of us thought Hillary would be the first woman president," said Williamson later.
It was Martin Luther King Jr.'s assassination that produced one of the greatest shifts. The trauma seemed to catalyze Hillary's politics. Nevertheless, her classmates insist she was never a radical. Hillary was more willing to work within the system to change things.

Source: God and Hillary Clinton, by Paul Kengor, p. 28-29 Jul 18, 2007

http://www.ontheissues.org/Domestic/Hill ary_Clinton_Civil_Rights.htm

women outnumber men in most societies that do not practice female infanticide

"Every minority group faces opression. Women, Blacks, Gays...sure it's true but it's nothing new."

oh well in that case lets not worry about it then
lets just sweep it under the rug and pretend it does not exist good idea  

In what way are woman a minority?

wow what you said must either be really deep or
really stupid  
"We have to admit that the cemetaries have a role in bringing peace"

so all we have to do is wait until everyone dies then it will be peace?

Faaaarrrr out maaaaaaaaan!!!

The gas tax issue is your candidate in demo mode.

Clinton: repeal the gas tax, take a short term fix. Line the pockets of big oil. Similiar decision to her decision to support the war in Iraq.

Obama: No, don't repeal the gas tax. Work our way out of this as a country.  

Clinton and McCain are friends on the issue of what to do with the Federal Excise tax.

Do you think McCain will help her campaign in NC?

that all black people think as he does.

that has a whole bunch of people under it from what I am hearing... based on what Hillary supporters say Obama for some reason like to throw people under that bus which is odd... it can't be hard to find a big pile of people with a bus on top of it

It's a green bio-diesel hybrid, assembled in North America. There are some SDs on the bus, but there are more waiting at the stop ahead waiting to see if this accident prevents it from finishing its route.

This is how the gotcha game works...

Everyone calling for Obama to throw right under the bus can no pivot effortlessly into charging this was just politics and proves Obama weak willed.

What I thought was remarkable about today's press conference was how a) it was done in the context of journalists asking and answering questions -- hardly a controlled environment and b) how even when apparently throwin his pastor under a bus, he maintained a sense of nuance and candor.

Once again, it's nice to be talked to like an adult.

Well, he could have dropped out and endorsed Hillary. I'm pretty sure that would be unassailable :)

Hahaha, give me a break man. She won in a state where the demographics already favored a victory for her by 15%. Obama still closed the gap.

Money matters. Hillary had the nomination wrapped up before she even announced, and she blew it. You don't think that's an indication of incompetent leadership? You don't think Obama's ability to overcome Hillary freaking Clinton, whose nomination only six months ago was thought to be a given in this presidential race, says something about the quality of the campaign he's run?

How are those rose-colored glasses treating you?

I wrote nothing to imply that African Americans are idiots. If a voter (of any race) believes that there is nothing racially divisive about Wright's comments and hears Obama condemn those comments and throw Wright under the bus, that voter may be less likely to support Obama. If a majority of black voters are fine with Wright, it's reasonable to assume that Obama's condemnation may hurt him with those voters.

the fact that you find it prudent to try and inject this disgusting and off base analogy into the conversation is just gross. Desperate any?

I can't imagine they thought it was a turning point in favor of Hillary. I mean according fox news, Wright is an evil terrorist devil man himself, so I'd think that anything Obama does to distance himself from him would have to be good, right?

Then again, this is Fox News. Anything that a Democrat does is bad.

um. let me see if i have this right. two men, one named "little boy blue" and another named "spanky" are trying to interpret what church lady says ... about obama..?

wow. thats really something.