Millennial Makover Interview, Part 1

I wrote a few weeks back about how impressed I was with reading Millennial Makeover. If you don't have a copy of this book, I highly recommend it, and if you do, read up because I'm going to have multiple posts about this and next week. I emailed back and forth with the authors Morley Winograd and Mike Hais, then put together about 10 questions for them to answer about the book, and will be posting them on the blog. They've grouped the questions into three categories: About Political Makeovers, Millennials and the 2008 Election, Millennials and Public Policy. I've told them that there may be further follow-up questions in the comments, which they'll hopefully have time to reply too, and we can follow up then on each of these three sections next week. I've not read a book like this that fixed my political jones since 'Crashing The Gate'... thats a joke... actually, since John Judis and Ruy Teixeira  wrote 'The Emerging Democratic Majority', which was sorta my entry textbook into writing about politics between 2000-2002. I really dug reading this book, and imagine the enjoyment I've got to be able to follow-up with the questions it stirred, to the authors themselves. Here goes part I:

Part I: About Political Makeovers

Part II: Millennials and the 2008 Election

Part III: Millennials and Public Policy

About Political Makeovers

You've looked at historical political changes in a unique way with Millennial Makeover, overlapping political realignment data with generational conventions, to show over-lapping insights. What was the inspiration to do this?

Our book was inspired by the writings of the late William Strauss and Neil Howe, particularly their book that first established this theory of generational cycles, entitled simply, 'Generations', in the `80s and their even more powerful book, 'The Fourth Turning', in the late `90s.  As life-long Democrats who have been friends for the last thirty years, we vowed to one day write a book that applied this generational framework to the aspect of American life we were most passionate about--politics. When Mike retired from his role as Vice President for Entertainment Research at Frank N. Magid Associates, we finally had both the time and access to the data we would need for this book. At the same time, the rise of social networks had been a phenomenon that Morley had been actively studying in his job as Executive Director of USC's Institute for Communication Technology Management (CTM) and this helped us identify the historical intertwining of technological change with generational change that underlies the theory of the book.

Were previous electoral realignments forecast by major party shifts in congress in the midterm election preceding the realigning presidential election?

In a word, "yes."  All previous realignments, "idealist" or "civic" were preceded by major congressional gains in the midterm elections immediately prior to the realignment. Of course, these gains were most decisive in the House, due to its larger size and the fact that only one-third of the Senate is elected in any single election year.

Specifically, in the 1826 midterm elections, before the clear creation of the Democratic and Whig parties, the John Quincy Adams faction lost nine House seats and the emerging Andrew Jackson faction gained the same number. In 1858 midterm election that preceded the decisive 1860 realigning election, the Republican Party that had contested its first presidential election only two years earlier, gained 26 House seats, while the Democrats lost 36 and began the process of fracturing into several irreconcilable factions. Their 1858 gains enabled the GOP to take control of the House for the first time.

In the 1894 midterm elections Grover Cleveland's Democrats lost 125 House seats and the Republicans gained 130, thereby taking control of the House two years before William McKinley's 1896 presidential election victory. In the 1930 midterm elections, contested a year after the Stock Market crash that led to the Great Depression and two years before the FDR realigning election, the Democrats gained 52 seats. In 1966, the GOP picked up 47 House seats, setting the stage for Richard Nixon's presidential victory two years later.

All of this history clearly suggests that the Democratic Party's congressional gains in 2006 may very well be a harbinger of a coming electoral realignment.

There have been five previous realignments in U.S. history. The realignments of 1828, 1896, and 1968 were "idealist" realignments and those of 1860 and 1932 were "civic" realignments. You've said that 2008 will bring the third "civic" realignment.

Is it possible that 2004 election of George W. Bush actually produced a realignment based on a concern with terror, especially if John McCain is able to use the same issue to win again for the Republicans in 2008?

This is the outcome that Karl Rove hoped and planned for after 9/11. He thought George Bush's victory in 2004 was the modern day equivalent of William McKinley's victory in 1896. But the voting patterns of 2004 do not suggest that it was a realigning election or the start of a realigning era. For one thing, Bush won by the smallest margin of any incumbent president in modern history. The in-depth analysis of the 2004 election presented in Millennial Makeover suggests that if any realignment potentially began to take shape in 2004, it was actually away from the Republicans and toward the Democrats. This possibility stems, not only from Bush's narrow win, but also from the fact that the first young sliver of the Millennial Generation eligible to vote in 2004 actually gave a majority to Democrat John Kerry rather than supporting George Bush.

In addition, most realignments have resulted in a change in party control of the electoral process and government as the weaker party replaces the formerly dominant party in power. Many factors clearly indicate that the Democratic Party is the best positioned of the two parties to lead America's next "civic" realignment. The Democrats have a solid lead over the Republicans in party identification, especially among the emerging Millennial Generation. Large majorities of Americans perceive the country to be off course and rate the performance of President Bush negatively. Most voters, again especially Millennials, hold opinions on issues, including the economy and the Iraq war, which are compatible with the positions of the Democratic Party. The large Democratic primary and caucus voter turnout and the significant Democratic edge in fundraising has given that party a competitive edge over the Republicans and suggests that the Democrats are enlisting new voters and growing their party base. All of this points to the likelihood that the coming realignment will be led by the Democratic Party.

However, a Democratic realignment in 2008 is not inevitable. As indicated, after the realigning election of 1896, the Republican Party, which had controlled American politics after 1860, continued to do so until 1932. But, it was a "different" Republican Party that dominated politics after 1896 than before. For one thing the voting coalitions that supported the two parties changed. Specifically, the GOP gained strength in the Northeast and upper Midwest while losing ground in the Prairie and Mountain West. For another, the primary economic focus of the GOP shifted toward the laissez faire policies that characterized the GOP in the first three decades of the 20th Century. Finally, the Republicans, especially toward the end of the "idealist" era ushered in by the 1896 realignment came to focus on traditional values on the social issues of the day. In other words, in and after 1896, the GOP shifted from being a "civic" to an "idealist" party.  It changed its product, even though it didn't change its brand, in order to fit the transition from the preeminence of one generational archetype to another.

So, it is possible that the Republicans could continue to dominate American elections as they have since 1968, but the party would have to change in a drastic manner, just as it transformed or re-branded itself in 1896. Now, however, it would have to shift from being an "idealist" to a "civic" party. Based on his positions on economic and social issues, there is little evidence that George Bush did that in 2004 or has done that since.

John McCain, however, may be different. He is better positioned than any of the other potential GOP presidential nominees to lead a "civic" realignment. His strength on national security should aid him in appealing to the overall electorate and to Millennials, a generation seared by 9/11. His more moderate positions, or at least imagery, on social and some economic issues should also broaden his appeal. The concerns about McCain among social issue and libertarian conservatives reflect both his relatively moderate image and their fears that McCain may take the Republican Party in a direction they don't like.  Consequently, if John McCain is elected president, his victory could lead to a Republican realignment, but it would be a "civic" realignment, different from both the 1968 GOP realignment and George Bush's reelection in 2004.

Only third to half of the Millennial Generation will be eligible to vote in 2008. Wouldn't that point to 2012 as the election where this generation will have its greatest impact? On the other hand, if you look at the years of realignments, 1828-1860 was 32 years, 1860-1896 was 36 years, 1896 to 1932 was 36 years, and 1932 to 1968 was 36 years. Now, it's been 40 years since 1968. And we could be looking at 44 years if it winds up being 2012 for the realignment.

Certain fundamental demographical facts about Millennials make it likely that 2008 will be the realigning election. There are currently about 100 million Millennials ranging in age from 5 to 26 years old, making it America's largest generation. Millennials now comprise about one-third of the U.S. population, a percentage that will only grow in coming years as members of older generations pass from the scene. Given the fact that many Millennials will not yet be able to vote this year, it is certainly true that the full force of this huge generation will be most strongly felt in elections beyond that of 2008. Nevertheless, we argue that Millennials will have a decisive impact this year. This will be due, in large part, to the unity of the Millennial Generation. Millennials, unlike Gen-Xers and Baby Boomers, are not sharply divided along gender, racial, or ideological lines. Moreover, a clear majority of Millennials identify as Democrats, while the two next older generations are divided fairly evenly between the two parties. Assuming that the Millennial Generation retains its unity, it should provide the decisive balance between the more sharply divided older generations in 2008 and beyond.

Historically, realigning elections occur when a new group of voters enters the electorate in significant numbers for the first time and their unified attitudes tip the balance of power decisively to one party or the other. Keep in mind that in American presidential elections a 53/47 victory is considered decisive.  Consequently, a realigning generation's numbers don't have to be overwhelming to cause this outcome.  Normally, in the subsequent national election after the realignment, this shift in party fortunes and policy attitudes is ratified by an even larger victory for the newly dominant party.  For example, Franklin D.  Roosevelt won big in 1932, but the New Deal realignment was reaffirmed in a much larger landslide in 1936. Richard Nixon won relatively narrowly in 1968, but he won in a landslide in 1972, reconfirming the electoral shift to the GOP. Whichever party wins in 2008 will do so clearly, and then will likely win a landslide victory in 2012, bringing with it a mandate for sweeping changes in policy that will be debated intensely in the years between the first victory and the second.  

When I think about all the events that happened in 1968 (the last 'realignment' year', a truly pivotal year, and I compare it to 2008, the year we are in seems mild and calm in comparison. You mention that a "civic" realignment occurs around an epic historical event that shapes and galvanizes the political landscape. I'm not sure, in the same way that the civil war did for 1860, and the depression did for 1932, that 9/11 and the 'war on terror' does it for this realignment period. Maybe it does for the "9/11 changed everything" crowd like McCain, but among Democrats whom are being polled in the ongoing primaries, terrorism ranks in low single-digits as an issue, while the shaky economy (represented by nearly $4 a gallon gas) is a majority. Are you convinced that 9/11 and terrorism is the event and issue?

No, we are not convinced that 9/11 triggered the coming realignment. In our book, Millennial Makeover, we state that the country would, in a relative sense, be fortunate if 9/11 was the only catastrophe the country needed to experience in order to set off the change reaction inherent in  a political realignment. As you point out in your question, as bad as 9/11 was, it pales in comparison to events like the Civil War and the Great Depression.  The United States may have to live through a series of even greater and more devastating shocks than 9/11 before everyone will be ready to move in a new direction.  We suggest in Millennial Makeover that potential "triggering events" could range from an international crisis, perhaps even a nuclear "incident," a global environmental disaster, a pandemic, or a major  economic meltdown. Recent events suggest not only that any of these scenarios are possible, but that in every "mild case" of this  type of events that has occurred so far, the public's reaction has been to support increased governmental activism.  We hope, of course, that none of these major crises or disasters will come to pass and that 9/11 will prove, in hindsight, to have been the trigger for the next realignment. But, before its occurrence, we cannot confidently predict the exact nature of the event that will bring about America's next political makeover.  

After all, for those watching the financial markets, or calculating the odds of a new Mideast intervention, this time in Iran, the notion that this year has been "mild and c calm in comparison to earlier years of crisis" seems more like wishful thinking about the months to come than a certainty. Writing in The Fourth Turning in the 90's, Strauss and Howe suggested that there would be an initial shock to signal the beginning of a new era early in this decade, but that the real crisis would occur years later. So if 9/11 was only the foreshock of the emergence of a new era, there could be much worse things to come either in this year or later ones.



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Whoever wins the presidency in 2008 is going to face some overwhelming structural problems.  The American economy is teetering. Deficits, balance of trade, the quantity of treasury notes abroad, and the devalued dollar all point to a set of interlocking intractable economic problems.  In other words - Bushco cannot finance the Iraq War, tax cuts for the rich, and a general raid on the public treasury without the rest of us having to pay for it sooner or later.

What that means is that Americans face a real decline in the standard of living in the coming years.  In order to continue to finance the national debt, bearing in mind the weak dollar, treasuries will likely have to increase the interest rates offered which will push other rates higher, as well.  Inflation combined with economic contraction.  Not a pretty picture.

Whoever wins the presidency in 2008 will, unfortunately, likely be blamed for the economic mess even though it will be Bushco's fault.  Thus, I do not see a Democratic administration winning big in 2010 and 2012.  I fear that if the Dems win this fall, they will be lucky to hold on to whatever gains they made in 2006 and may make this year.

Apres Bush - le deluge.


by johnnygunn on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 03:47:41 AM EST

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I actually disagree with that: The American public is already convinced that the economy is in the tank now, and they pretty much know who is to blame. A President who is viewed as empathetic and trustworthy should be able to bring America together and keep them on board through the necessary sacrifices in much the same way as FDR did when faced with an economy which was even worse than ours is now.


by Ray Radlein on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:39:41 AM EST
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FDR - -

Won election in 1932 and took office in March of 1933.  That was three years after the market collapse and well into the Depression.  "Hoovervilles" had sprung up on the outskirts on nearly every city and town.  The Bonus Marchers had been attacked by MacArthur.

The 2008 election will take place only about a year into the current economic contraction.  The economic shocks of oil increases and food prices are only just now beginning to filter through the economy.  Much of the reckoning will take place after Bush is out of office.

In an age when lapel pins and the amount of sniper fire on a remote runway draw all the media attention in a presidential year, I fear that many Americans will blame whoever is the sitting president.  Not to mention that the days of listening to the president's fireside chats with reverent awe are long over.


by johnnygunn on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 06:01:43 AM EST
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by Ray Radlein on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 05:39:44 AM EST

Messrs. Winograd & Hais (none / 0)

In your opinion, has the strength of Barack Obama, his candidacy and specific appeal to and targeting of Millenials accelerated the realignment by four or eight years? (assuming that he beats McCain which seems more likely than not).  Do realignments need a singular national figure that embodies that realignment to occur?

It seems obvious that Obama is nearly a perfect Presidential candidate to appeal to Millenials (in his background, talent and message).  The Obama campaign knows this and have pushed Millenials to unprecedented levels of activism, energy and financial support, all using modern technology.  

Nevertheless, it was risky for Obama to run in 2008 because the Millenials full impact on politics is still at its beginning stages.  But they have already had a very important impact on the 2008 election.  In Obama's most important single contest win to date in Iowa, Obama was able to drive the under 30 vote up to 22% of the total vote, with these results: Obama- 57%, Edwards- 14%, Clinton- 11%.  Though the percentage of under 30's voting and the Obama margins have not reached that level in subsequent contests, Iowa established his viability which has allowed him to defeat (barely and imminently) a candidate as strong as Clinton.  


Our Moment Is Now
by mboehm on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 06:42:24 AM EST

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Well, there ya have it yer Hamiltonians vs. yer Jeffersonians. Frankly, if the gotdamned American citizenry cannot figure out who to blame by now.....

The answer of course is both. Kos and others may have become delusional about Barry but the idea of electing real Democrats not scum like Pelosi, Hoyer, Reid et. al. is the best idea we have at the moment. Rebuilding our infrastructure, with a priority on education, is a must while we still have 'cheap' oil to do that with.

This post reinforces my feeling that the Presidential race is important indeed. We must not let either of the Republicans into office.

This means no McSame and no Barry. Either would be a disaster for progressives and the nation.


by Pericles on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 09:27:48 AM EST

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Ugh. It's late for me and my brain isn't engaged fully and I shouldn't be commenting at this time. I read enough to know I should read Millennial Makeover but got from your questions to the authors that they believe the next realignment is civic and more likely to occur in 2012 or later and it might get real ugly (as we already know it's going to economically and hopefully not more catastrophic events on top). With this election cycle and the realignment estimate to be 4 years or more out it pretty much brings up the question of who emerges in 2012....the democrats or a changed, more adapted GOP.

I agree with the comments upthread that the next president will be blamed for everything and the victors will be the opposing party in 2012, which is pretty much how I felt before. The damage is great, the situation dire and the people are likely only going to feel it much more over the next 4 years. Not sure how much I will agree with the concept in the book but if 1968 was the idealist realignment it certainly took the direction of those 'idealists' and handed them to the changed GOP and not the direction we were expecting or going for. I can't wait for Part II or III and hope for a 'happy ending' but I haven't seen one coming anytime soon. Paint me cynical and sleep deprived.


by Justwords on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 09:39:05 AM EST

It's an excellent book, I agree, but... (none / 0)

it sure doesn't go along with your support of Clinton.  Obama is the obvious millenial candidate, in the exact sense the book uses the term, and Clinton the obvious old-line establishment one.

I think you may have been the one who recommended the book a month or so ago and got me to read it.  Thanks for this!


by Garret on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 10:20:12 AM EST

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It's funny how Obama supporters assume that if Clinton were not the nominee, that Obama would win over the white working class, even though there is not an indication that he would, but they have the belief that Clinton couldn't win over the youth, even though she beat Obama among the youth in places like  California and Massachusetts.

On the contrary, I do agree that Obama is the obvious millennial candidate in the youth sense, but I have my doubts about his ability to win the GE, and on this issue, as compared with Clinton-- which is something similar to what the authors have on their blog:

However, the close nominating contest between Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton puts the prospects of a Democratic realignment based on the Millennial Generation in real jeopardy. A large majority of Millennials prefers Obama over Clinton. That difference in candidate preference by itself would not cost the Democrats the support of Millennials should Hillary Clinton ultimately become the Democratic presidential nominee. If anything, Millennials are more loyal to their political party than older, more independent thinking Boomers. A recent Pew Research Center survey indicated that the Boomer-based Clinton supporters would be more than twice as likely to leave the Democrats than the Millennial-based Obama supporters should their favorite candidate not win the Democratic presidential nomination.
I happen to agree with what they said in that post, Is the GENder Gap becoming a GENeration Gap?  Clinton's turnout of women on her behalf swamps whatever Obama has turned out in terms of the youth vote. We'll get into this more. Of course, what they follow up on has the caveat:

But Millennials, raised on principles of fairness and consensus decision making, will be particularly influenced by how the end game that decides the Democratic nomination plays out Unless the rest of this year's primaries produce a decisive outcome, the most important generational choice confronting the Democrats in the first half of this century will be made over the next several months by the party's super-delegates. If Hillary Clinton wins "fairly" after receiving the largest number of votes and having the most pledged delegates, a large majority of Millennials will likely remain Democrats and Senator Clinton will have a very good chance to lead a Democratic political realignment. If, on the other hand, Barack Obama, the Millennials' preferred candidate, is denied the nomination in a way that Millennials see as unfair, the Democrats will almost certainly lose an historic opportunity to win the loyalty of this generation and control of American national politics for the next four decades.
In this regard, I think Clinton holding the popular vote lead gives her the moral highground for the nomination and that would assuage any feelings of it being unfair. Alot of posters have the misunderstanding that the popular vote is just another procedural count, its nothing of the sort. The process of counting delegates from the states is a legitimate issue of procedure, but the counting of whom voted is a principle, especially for the Democratic Party.


by Jerome Armstrong on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 11:10:15 AM EST
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Its sounds to me like you think 9/11 is the most recent realignment trigger.  Is that one of your reasons to support Clinton?


by gil44 on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 11:19:05 AM EST
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Parallels (none / 0)

Try this:  9/11 was "confirmation" that the Inner-driven Era of Reagan and Clinton from 1982 to 2000 was over.  As I see it, the actual trigger event that set off the current Crisis Era was the "outcome" 2000 election.  

Taking a look at the beginnings of previous Crisis Eras might be instructive:

The American Revolution
Trigger event:  Boston Tea Party (1773)
Confirming Event:  The "Shot Heard 'Round The World" (1776)

The Civil War
Trigger Event:  Dred Scot Decision (1857)
Confirming Event:  Lincoln's Election (1860)

Great Depression/World War II
Trigger Event:  Stock Market Crash (1929)
Confirming Event:  Roosevelt's Election (1932)


by Airpower on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 11:47:49 AM EST
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how about this... (none / 0)

The Iraq War
Trigger Event: 9/11 Attack
Confirming Event: Obama's Election

A large part of the appeal of Obama is his message and style which is more distinctly anti-Bush than Clinton or McCain.  Bush's low public approval (nationally and internationally) create a public mood for something much different and a greater tolerance for a candidate who has been on the national scene for a shorter period of time.

 


Our Moment Is Now
by mboehm on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 12:21:14 PM EST
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That might be.  The only observation I have is that the five years from the start of the Iraq War (2003) to the 2008 election runs a little bit on the high side.  The average time between "trigger" event and "confirmation" is three years.  But time will tell.  One thing is for certain:  historians 20 to 40 years from now will be doing a lot of interesting analysis of the times in which we now live.  


by Airpower on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 12:51:36 PM EST
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I actually questioned that thinking up above.

I voted for Clinton, after all my original choices were gone, because of the two, her and Obama, she's more likely to win.


by Jerome Armstrong on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 01:36:27 PM EST
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conjunctions count (none / 0)

...after receiving the largest number of votes and having the most pledged delegates...

Accepting and following the rules and metrics established at the beginning is also a principle.  Ask Al Gore.


Our Moment Is Now
by mboehm on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 12:36:37 PM EST
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Wave elections (none / 0)

I've done a little analysis of Congressional wave elections from Strauss and Howe's Generations that might give some insight:  

Generation           First Birth Year    Wave Election      Years to Wave Election
Lost                      1881                     1930                     49
G. I.                      1901                     1958                     57
Silent                    1925                     1974                     49
Baby Boomers     1943                     1994                     51

Now, for Gen X:

Based on minimum of 49 years from the First Birth Year to the year of the wave election:
                                                           2010                    49
Or, using the average of 51.5 years (skewed by the abnormally long 57 year time span of the G. I. generation):  
                                                           2012 (A)              51.5

The historical analysis suggests a Congressional "wave election" would be likely in either 2010 or 2012.  

But, something is different this time:

Subtract three years since the 26th Amendment granting 18 to 21 year olds the vote:
                                                           2008 (B)              47
or:                                                       2010 (C)              48.5

Notes:
(A) Rounded down from 2012.5 to the nearest election.
(B) Rounded up from 2007 to the next election
(C) Rounded up from 2009.5 to the nearest election

Accounting for the 26th Amendment seems to confirm that 2006 was the "wave election" and two years is a reasonable adjustment.  

It is easy to extrapolate to the Presidency for the first two waves of 1930 and 1958 with the White House changing over in the next election (1932 and 1960), but not as easy for the 1974 and 1996 waves.  Nevertheless, the historical parallel is the 1930 Congressional wave election and the 1932 Presidential election, since that time period corresponds to leading phase of a Crisis Era, as we are in now.  So, a shift of power in the White House should be likely this year.  Given the overwhelming size of the Millennial Generation, some extra "street hustle" can guarantee that shift this November.  


by Airpower on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 12:46:04 PM EST

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But there's an additional issue. People are living longer now than they were ever before in the last 230 years of the US. I think that might have something to do with pushing the wave back further.


by Jerome Armstrong on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 01:38:15 PM EST
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Much to the dismay of many, the first year baby boomers are 62 and will be voting strong another 25-30 years and the younger boomers much beyond. My parents generation is still going rather strong although not for long and this big block of millennials some aren't of voting age for another 13 years.


by Justwords on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 06:38:48 PM EST
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We are thoroughly enjoying the dialogue and the great contributions all of you are making to our analysis. We do believe that 2008 will be the realigning election. And some of the "wave" posts reinforce our confidence on that issue. As for the question of candidate influence on all that, please keep in mind, the candidates are the dependent variable here. They MUST react to the reality of Millennial voters, not the other way around. So far, the outcome of Dem contests to-date show Obama doing a better job from a messenger, message, and media perspective of winning their support, but Clinton has been catching on quickly (especially since Iowa) and beginning to win over Millennials in greater numbers as a result. For the Democratic Party to be successful in capturing this historic opportunity, it must make sure that ALL of its candidates learn how to win Millennial support. The convention would be a great way to demonstrate that we are capable of finding "win-win solutions" that Millennials prefer (dream ticket anyone?) but there will be many other opportunities during the general election to demonstrate our affinity for Millennial ideas, attitudes and behavior as well. One thing is certain: When a civic generation, as unified as this Millennial generation is, comes along, the power of its numbers and its perspective realign American politics for forty years. The electorate is so divided right now, without Millennials, that this generation's almost 2:1 allegiance to the Democratic Party  (so far) multiplied by the 35-40 million eligible voters they represent, will be the decisive difference in 2008.


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by mmakeover on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 03:57:11 PM EST

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I readily admit I have not read the book and so to try to critique it in any way or discuss it on any intellectual level would be grossly unfair. That being said, however, you point to the Millennials as aged 5-26 currently and state they are united. I agree in theory they are not or won't be divided along racial or gender lines and a little less so along idealogical lines but what points to them being united along any line as the younger ones are still in the world of the world revolves around me. Plus- there will be the usual divisions along socioeconomic and societal inequities that plague and divide the other generations and are the forefront of the presidential race today.

I do not think based on the age bracket or the current state of affairs that 9/11 or the Iraq war will be the unifying event. Those 18-26 year olds fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan will be as out of touch with same age and the younger Millennial's as the Vietnam veterans were/are with same age and younger boomers who have not been affected/nor understand and won't qualify as any uniting event among the 5-26 year old generation. I think the 'event' has not happened yet but see much potential in the next 4 years for something far greater that affects more of that generation and has more of a lasting impact and impression on them. (sad to say)

As I said I haven't read the book and sure the 'research' is sound but looking at it simplistically based on generational age and data I don't think 2008 is going to usher in any long lasting makeover at least not based on 9/11 or the two current wars. The economic issues may announce the beginning and building beyond but only if solutions are being seen and felt between 2008-2012. We haven't bottomed out yet and hopefully we raise our bottom before we do.  


by Justwords on Mon Apr 28, 2008 at 06:14:59 PM EST


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