by Student Guy, Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 11:39:24 PM EST
Tags: MI, delegates (all tags)
flow of faulty information.
"Michiganers for Obama"? Seriously?
Come on, you know it ought to be "Michiganders"! How disappointing. I wouldn't assign them any delegates either.
on my part and I'll fix it.
Oh really? Hee hee, and here I thought I was just teasing. It's really only "Michiganians" I can't stand.
about the name of the group it is Michiganders for Obama, not Michiganers for Obama.
Hey this doesn't help Hillary's case
But I believe that he probably got 23-30 of 36. I can't cry about democracy being done in Michigan.
The problem is that his caucus support has been clearly skewed and Hillary needed something to skew her way to balance it out.
Washinton, Texas etc are clear indications why none of the caucuses should exist next cycle.
I will not vote for him unless this skew is countered elsewhere prior to the nomination.
But I accept 23-30 out of 36 as fair.
I could find any results for two districts which have 5 delegates.
I think its important that Edwards gets some as he was very much in it at that stage.
If the caucus states were truely fair I would have been for him getting his fair share from the start.
But it really is too late.
If the election goes against the party the party goes against the nominee.
You know and I know the party voted for Hillary.
GOP and independents will have to work pretty hard for Obama to be president in 2008.
were originally Edwards supporters and might flip over to Sen. Clinton.
What was it about the piece from the local Detroit paper that you are trying to correct here?
From my reading, we have:
47 - Hillary 23 - Obama 13 - Unclear ------------ 83 - Total
Percentage-wise, that gives us:
56.6% - Hillary 27.7% - Obama 15.7% - Unclear ------------ 100% - Total
Let's say ALL of the "unclear" go for Obama, which according to your sources seems unlikely. That gives Michigan to Hillary 57/43.
I think the point of the previous article was that there is just no way that Obama could have done worse than a 14-point loss if he had simply allowed the otherwise agreed upon revote to proceed.
More to the point: if he had done that, not only would he be in a numerically stronger position, but this matter would be resolved in a way that satisfied both camps as fair. Instead, this remains an open, on-the-table issue at any possible convention showdown.
He was playing checkers and she played chess, basically. But, to the extent there is not clarity in the result, neither side truly "wins" here - meanwhile, Michiganders were not fully enfranchised because they essentially got a half-assed primary election.
Disappointing.
I saw people arguing for things such as 50-50 and all uncommitted to Hillary and I thought that I would link to what I read which is what is going on. I don't live in MI so I have no clue about local politics of the legislature.
give results from the 14th district?
Just to clarify - not my paper. I live in Virginia. But I assumed this was in response to the diary about Barack's cheap-o politics in Michigan coming back to roost.
It was in response to some of the inane arguments I've seen about MI's delegates. If it was in response to the roosting diary It would have been up shortly after that diary was up because I was online when that diary was posted.
when do you become DoctorGuy?
If it is pre residency then it is about 2 years, post residency it is at least 5, probably 6.
Will you change your name to DoctorGuy lol?
student. After all in a perfect world I'd be 2 years into my PhD in entomology wqith a focus on pismires (which reminds me I still have to finish up my diary comparing this years campaign tactics to trail-marking by ants). I plan to go back once I get my MD and get a masters or PhD in entomology.
nuero or Internal Med (and I would possibly specialize after the IM). But I have some time left to go before I decide, I haven't hard rotations yet.
*had instead of hard
FREEP had posted that union leaders got half the uncommitted in an organized matter. Their indication was that they've not endorsed either too.
Chris Bowers and the people at WestMichiganRising reported. to be honest, I'd trust Chris to be right over a traditional newspaper (but then again this is being posted by an idiot who could see that PPP was close in PA...)
I am guessing that the 7 weak Obama supporters are union members, but they did say at their conventions (according to people present) that they supported Obama.
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