MyDD :: "Not a good idea"

"Not a good idea"

by linc, Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 10:33:25 PM EST

You wanna know what is not a good idea? I'll tell you- listening to the prognostications of Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and Howard Dean. Lest we forget, these are the folks that have brought us such wonderful works as "off the table," "how to capitulate and eat your cake too," and let's not forget "this amazingly well organized primary." The lack of actual leadership these three supposed leaders have shown over the last few years has been absolutely unbelievable. Just in case you have forgotten, let me give you a refresher:

Here's one where Reid and Pelosi thought it was a good idea to allow the administration to extend the troops' tours of duty.

Here is one where Nancy thought it was a good idea to completely derail any hopes of impeaching the criminal Bush.

And here is one where Howard thought it was a good idea to well... just not lead on settling FL and MI.

Repeat: it is NOT a good idea to listen to these folks concerning acts of leadership. We put them in place to lead this party and they have failed.

This is not a candidate diary, we all know that our supposed party leaders have their own, separate dogs in this fight. This is a get real diary. This is a stop the madness and quit propping up every word that these supposed leaders have to say about things. I think they have forgot that all of us are over their type of leadership and we are now looking elsewhere...

Please, do not take this as a totalistic indictment of Howard Dean. I am and always have been a Deaniac, but he has failed to lead this entire primary cycle

Tags: Nancy, Harry, Howard, leadership (all tags)

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For the love of leadership (2.00 / 1)

please, please Harry, Nancy, and Howard- please don't try to start now- it just makes you look silly.

by linc on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 10:35:13 PM EST

Re: Not a good idea (none / 0)

It it simply a coincidence that these leaders you mention appear to all favor either Obama, or circumstances that would support the Democratic primary system as it's set up, and therefore support his position by proxy?

I'm going to assume it is; just checking.

Hooray for John McCain!

by ragekage on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 10:36:08 PM EST

Harry Reid (2.00 / 1)

is Clinton's guy.

by linc on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 10:39:16 PM EST
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Re: Harry Reid (none / 0)

Can you back that up?

That's always been my sense but I couldn't tell you why.

by Mostly on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 11:12:34 PM EST
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Re: Not a good idea (2.00 / 1)

and if that's the case (and i am not saying it is, but it does seem that way) does that not say something about their leadership? they are after all, party elders and imo should not have a dog in this race (at least publicly).

"Me Fail English? That's Unpossible." Ralph Wiggum

by canadian gal on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 10:41:45 PM EST
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Re: Not a good idea (none / 0)

So, all the party leaders, DNC people, etc, some two-hundred some that went for Clinton in 2007 is okay?

Hooray for John McCain!

by ragekage on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 10:58:03 PM EST
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Re: Not a good idea (none / 0)

you mean before the outcome would hinge on supers? yes.

"Me Fail English? That's Unpossible." Ralph Wiggum

by canadian gal on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 11:04:27 PM EST
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Re: Not a good idea (none / 0)

Eh, the superdelegates are going to decide this things, and it looks like most of 'em have their minds made up on their criteria, per Jerome's post from awhile back. I'd say it's more likely they pick Obama, but Clinton's got a shot. We'll just have to wait and see, I suppose.

Hooray for John McCain!

by ragekage on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 11:08:07 PM EST
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Re: Not a good idea (none / 0)

They do have the opportunity to withdraw their endorsements you know.

by Mostly on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 11:13:43 PM EST
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Re: Not a good idea (none / 0)

is it ok if we listen to the clinton campaign?

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/4/17/1491 0/7915

Obama said, as Bill beamed. "Thank you, President Clinton."

by TruthMatters on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 10:36:08 PM EST

Re: Not a good idea (2.00 / 2)

not to mention Pelosi said this during a interview with Larry King, via BTD @ TalkLeft:

Larry King asks her "do you think a unity ticket is a good idea?" Now, suppose you think it is not. What can you say? Here is a simple one - "It will be up to the nominee." Nothing more. But can Nancy Pelosi say that? No.

Nancy Pelosi feels compelled, by some unstoppable divisiveness in her, to offer her opinion that it is "not a good idea."

she basically remains headstrong in her Clinton hate...

she sets such a great example for the rest of the party...

--++++Stay Gold, Ponyboy!++++--

by amde on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 10:44:10 PM EST

I am just so sick (2.00 / 1)

of hearing from all of them. Instead of being leaders, they are really just little kids stirring the hornets nest.

by linc on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 10:48:32 PM EST
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Re: Not a good idea (none / 0)

What hate? Explain.

We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.

by politicsmatters on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 10:48:58 PM EST
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Re: Not a good idea (none / 0)

i cant say for sure she hates clinton, i dont know Pelosi personally. but her unwillingness to stay neutral begs some questions... that and the whole hillary donor threats cant make her very happy (she must be pissed to realize even she too has a price)

--++++Stay Gold, Ponyboy!++++--

by amde on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 11:19:06 PM EST
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Re: Not a good idea (none / 0)

I'm really truly genuinely puzzled by Pelosi's continued insistence that the two of them wouldn't go together. Does she know something we don't? Have both camps told her they will definitively not run together?

I happen to agree with her, but she speaks with such certainty, it leads me to believe that she knows more than she's letting on.

"If we can't live together... we're going to die alone."

by VAAlex on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 10:52:16 PM EST
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Re: Not a good idea (none / 0)

Who takes second place? It's a step down from a powerful seat in the Senate for her, from the front-runner's position for him.

by BlueinColorado on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:21:16 AM EST
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Re: "Not a good idea" (none / 0)

It's cool...Barack can handle his two-headed opponent...McClinton...He's doing just fine...

A useless "Community Organizer" from Pennsylvania as noted by Republicans, Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin

by hootie4170 on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 11:01:20 PM EST

Re: "Not a good idea" (none / 0)

Here's one where Reid and Pelosi thought it was a good idea to allow the administration to extend the troops' tours of duty.

Here is one where Nancy thought it was a good idea to completely derail any hopes of impeaching the criminal Bush.

You've got links for the times Hillary Clinton stood up to Bush, right?

And her valiant attempts to rally the country behind impeachment?

'cause she's a leader and a "fighter". I know because she told me so. I never saw any evidence of either while she was in the Senate. But boy, she says it a lot!

by BlueinColorado on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 11:17:11 PM EST

I guess (none / 0)

what was really not a good idea was to post a non-candidate diary and just assume that we could all look past if for one instance... oops, my bad.

by linc on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 11:34:23 PM EST
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Re: I guess (none / 0)

or, your mistake was thinking that this wasn't a candidate diary because you said "This is not a candidate diary...."

by BlueinColorado on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:04:07 AM EST
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OK (none / 0)

Harry Reid is Hillary's man, don't forget that when June comes.

by linc on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:15:49 AM EST
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Re: OK (none / 0)

Yeah.... that kind of thinking got the Clintons in a lot of trouble with Bill Richardson and several others. There are a lot of us, from the Senate down to the grassroots, who see loyalty as a two-way street, and don't feel we owe the Clintons a damn thing.

I suspect Reid may feel the same way.

by BlueinColorado on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:19:59 AM EST
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Ok (none / 0)

you are quite vitriolic. Bye.

by linc on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:24:02 AM EST
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Re: Ok (none / 0)

Just trying to help you folks accept reality so we can move on to defeating McCain, which some of us think is the most important factor in November.

Good night.

by BlueinColorado on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:26:34 AM EST
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Re: OK (none / 0)

So first you slam Reid and then you claim him as one of hillary's champions???
Do you not read what you write? Or is talking out of both sides of your mouth a clintonite requisite?

"In the primary you should vote with your heart, but in the general, you should vote with your head" Hillary's husband

by venician on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:35:39 AM EST
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Since when do I (none / 0)

have to agree with everything a Clinton supporter does. Do you think Reid has been good at his job? I don't. Do I think we should be paying an ounce of attention to what he has to say about this primary process? Well, I don't. I am not a sycophant for Clinton or Reid and I clearly stated in the diary that this was not meant to be a candidate diary... sorry you missed that.

by linc on Fri Apr 25, 2008 at 12:39:10 AM EST
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