In every election the one who is behind clamors for debates while the one who is ahead avoids them. The reasons are obvious. I think we need no more debates since we all know where both candidates stand on these issues. Plus, I sincerely hope this is all over long before Oregon.

What, she's not running on God and guns in Oregon?

Whenever I've read Obama's position papers, especially in contrast with hers, i's striking how much more original and fresh his are compared to hers. Read up on their climate change or net neutrality positions, two key issues that aren't as high on the radar screen as they should be.

So I'm just going to assume that Hillary put together a goodie bag with stuff popular with Oregon Democrats. Good for her, and good for all of us who like policy discussion more than the stuff she highlighted in PA.

... in Wisconsin. She even ran ads about it. And she got thumped.

I think this "strategy" will be just as effective this time.

I have news for Camp Clinton: voters are tired of debates, especially after that last train wreck that was universally panned. And just because we've moved on to new states, doesn't mean people want to see more debates.

I saw that this morning and Senator Obama was out here weeks ago campaigning already and speaking about solutions to Oregonians, he just didn't tie it up in a little bow and slap on some pandering nonsense phrase like "Oregon Compact" on it. I don't want a president who is going to trot out to me every four years with a little goodie bag of treats to get my vote.

I think candidates should say hope, change and page more often.  Not nearly enough of those monosyllabic words being repeated at every whistle stop.  Because, after all, THAT is what this election is all about - buzz words, not policies.  Right?  I mean, shouldn't that be sufficient to propel a candidate to the presidency of the United States. Platitudes, damn it!  We demand more platitudes!

Then again, maybe voters are sick and tired of being yammered at with robotic, empty phrases and are looking for real solutions to their every day, real life problems.  That is, if we still give a shit in this country for the people, upon whose backs, blood, sweat and tears, this country was built.

My assertion was simply that the most recent debate devoted more time to discussing issues than past debates.  That is different, for example, from asserting that it devoted the most time talking about issues, out of all the debates, which is what you are attemping to misread into my words.

So, I don't accept your strawman, and clearly this has nothing to do with the fact that Hillary Clinton's actions in Oregon are consistent with her campaign's pledge to focus on substantive solutions - she delivered 13 pages of them and the local media made note of it.

You may not have the last word because my involvement in this relatively useless tangent is now concluded.