John McCain Should Be Worried About MS-01 Result

Jonathan followed the results of that other race Tuesday night, the special election to fill the MS-01 congressional seat vacated by now Senator Roger Wicker. The result was fairly stunning: in an R+10 district, the Democrat Travis Childers almost defeated outright the Republican Greg Davis, winning 49% to 46%, leading to a run-off on May 13.

No matter what happens in 3 weeks, this result should be a wake up call to national Republicans and specifically John McCain for a few reasons. Not only was this a red district (it went for Bush with 62% of the vote against Kerry in 2004) but it's in the heart of the south, the GOP's last remaining stronghold, and their playbook didn't work there.

"Liberals are on the march," the narrator warned in one Davis advertisement, which described the Republican as a "pro-life conservative" and urged voters to "send a message to Washington liberals." [...]

At least in part, Mr. Childers was able to deflect Republican efforts to tie him to national Democratic figures held in deep suspicion here, like Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton. A nursing home owner as well as the chancery clerk, or county financial administrator, Mr. Childers, 50, styled himself a Mississippi Democrat, marking a distinction with the national party, which he said he disagreed with on some issues.

But while Childers effectively blurred the distinctions between himself and his Republican challenger, the issues on which he did distinguish himself, the issues that won him a plurality in a bright red southern district, should send shivers down John McCain's spine.

But the Republicans' hold is being unexpectedly tested by a self-described "Mississippi Democrat," a gregarious local courthouse official whose positions on social issues -- guns, abortion, same-sex marriage -- are indistinguishable from those of the other party. Democrats are hoping to add the candidate, Travis Childers, 50, to the raft of conservative "Blue Dog" Democrats elected in the 2006 midterm elections, due partly to economic appeals and doubts about the war. [...]

Up and down the rolling hills, black-soil prairies and small towns of this upstate district stretching north to Tennessee, Mr. Childers makes frequent appeals to what he calls "working folks" struggling in a weak economy, and expresses his opposition to a war policy he says is "not working."

So not only is this a reminder that, as Matt Stoller writes:

The public hates Republicans, and larger macro factors are at play...the economy and Iraq.  No one likes Republicans, even in R+10 districts.

But as Eric Kleefeld puts it, the result Shows Unpopularity Of Iraq War In Deep Red States.

So, John McCain and Republicans nationally who are continuing to run on the war, should be on notice; and as for any cautious Democratic challengers who still wonder if running against the war is politically perilous just because it's off the front page, they should take a lesson from the MS-01 race.



Display:


Re: John McCain Should Be Worried About MS-01 Resu (2.00 / 1)

It is utterly amazing how diaries about John McCain get little or no response but yet diaries about Obama's pastor are rec'd constantly.  Diaries that degrade African-Americans are rec'd.

Do you have any shame Jerome? You are just as bad as the racist diarists that you have allowed to take over your site.  The black blogosphere is enraged at you and Mydd for continuing such tactics.


by regina1983 on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 12:33:50 PM EST

Re: John McCain Should Be Worried About MS-01 Resu (none / 0)

Diaries about Obama's pastor speak to his weakenesses and have a ready audience of hand-wrining nattering nabobs of nagativism who are all too ready to throw the towel in at any flaw the Democratic Presidential candidates show.

They're also all too ready to scream "Diebold" in order to try and shout down encouraging posts about the Dems' chances.

This is positive news, which on the liberal blogosphere ususally gets overlooked.


by spirowasright on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 12:47:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: John McCain Should Be Worried About MS-01 (none / 0)

Huh? What the ever-lovin heck does Jerome have to do with this post (written by Todd) or with how many responses from readers various posts get?


by ColoradoGuy on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 12:48:10 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: John McCain Should Be Worried About MS-01 (none / 0)

Sorry, I got the name's wrong.


by spirowasright on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 02:40:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: John McCain Should Be Worried About MS-01 Resu (none / 0)

Diaries about the dem vs dem race get the most comments and recs. And to be fair, I wouldn't say racist diaries have "taken over"  but I do think that some of the Clinton folks get carried away in their spin on occasion.

Of course, they can't spin away the multitude of polls that show that the American public thinks HRC is untrustable and has a negative opinion of her...


by gil44 on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 01:20:22 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: What does R+# mean. (none / 0)

It is kind of like knowing how to interpret the plus/minus number in hockey.  I know it has a special meaning but I've never seen a definition.  Can anyone explain this R+ or D+ definition?


by Gilpin Guy on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 02:27:27 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: What does R+# mean. (none / 0)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cook_Partis an_Voting_Index


Walberg Watch - Following Radical Conservative Rep. Tim Walberg in MI-07
by Fitzy on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 05:31:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: John McCain Should Be Worried (none / 0)

The war is off the front pages, but it's been replaced by the economy, which is at least as much of a stink bomb for the GOP.  The Democratic Party can run on both issues.


NJ Hussein Independent
by NJIndependent on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 12:45:33 PM EST

Re: Local vs. Presidential (2.00 / 1)

That's great news.

However, always keep in mind that Local Southern democrats have always been competitive in many parts of the South.

Moderate/Conservative Southern democrats who can successfully DIFFERENTIATE themselves & almost CUT their ties to National liberal Democrats have always either been competitive or very successful.

There are so many Conservative/Moderate Southern democratic success stories both locally & statewide.

As long as they successfully DISASSOCIATE themselvs with the policies of the National Democratic leaders

Governors Beebe of Arkansas, Easley of NC, Henry of Oklahoma, Bredesen of TN. ALL VERY POPULAR CENTRIST DEMOCRATS.

Attorney General Mike Moore of Mississippi is another very popular Democrat who could very well win statewide office in MS.

Senators Lincoln & Pryor of Arkansas, Landriue of LA.

Almost two dozen moderate " Blue Dog" & "DLC" Democratic House members spread out across the South in almost every single southern state.

Winning locally has never been a serious problem for the right southern democrat.

Its the National Democratic tickets which are perceived as "Liberal" by southerners that have & will always have a problem for many years.

One thing rank & file white Southern democrats have successfully practiced for over 3 decades now is voting for Democrats in the local & state level but crossing over to the Republicans at the Presidential level.


by libdemusa on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 12:48:23 PM EST

That's fine (none / 0)

so they don't back us on abortion, gay marriage or guns...they will on SCHIP, healthcare and the environment.


The American people; they were for the war before they were against it.
by nrafter530 on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 01:18:29 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Moore isn't AG (none / 0)

He didn't seek re-election in 2003.

His successor Jim Hood does fit the mold though.


Please visit Cotton Mouth to support Mississippi progressives.
by cottonmouthblog on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 02:17:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: John McCain Should Be Worried About MS-01 Resu (none / 0)

Over 1/4 of PA Republicans sent McBush a message...


"If you want to end war and stuff, you gotta sing loud"...Arlo Guthrie
by nogo war on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 12:56:41 PM EST

McCain is Vulnerable in the Deep South (none / 0)

This post dovetails with my abiding suspicion that McCain is actually vulnerable in not only the Upper South but also the Deep South. He's viewed as a maverick, not a real Republican. And you have to remember that Huckabee carried the Deep South, not McCain. When you couple down ballot conservative, folksy, populist Dems running for Deep South House seats and a maverick Republican like McCain at the top of the ticket, it spells a recipe for disaster!


I proudly support Barack Obama for President!
by Zeitgeist9000 on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 12:57:54 PM EST

What? (none / 0)

McCain is up in the polls by over 25 pts in Mississippi.  He is leading by over 35pts in Kentucky, 25 pts in Tenn., 15+ pts in Missouri, ARK, W.V. etc. He is a solid 10 pts up in Virgina and will carry it with ease.

Your statement that McCain is vulnerable in the "Upper South", also known as the "border states" simply isn't supported by the facts.  In point of fact, Obama is very weak in the south and border states, with Florida already in the Republican column.  McCain has a strong electoral college foundation from which to begin the campaign to say nothing of his strength in Penn., Michigan, Ohio, and other rust-belt states.  It's not looking good right now.


by minnehot1 on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 01:27:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: What? (none / 0)

I don't know where you're getting your information. I'm obviously speaking from the point of view of a head-to-head match-up against Clinton. I'm pretty sure she's competitive in WV, AR, MO, TN and KY. So I don't know where you're getting your information.

As far as the Deep South states, once the GE campaign gets under way, the numbers could switch to  her favor.


I proudly support Barack Obama for President!
by Zeitgeist9000 on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 01:38:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: What? (none / 0)

And I could suddenly find a million dollars under my sofa cushion, too.

But it would seem to me that if we're to believe that Clinton's solid wins in OH and PA make her the more electable candidate in those states in the general election, logic would also dictate that Obama's 61-37 win in Mississippi makes him, by far, the stronger GE candidate there.

Do I believe Obama can actually win MS in the fall? Certainly not (any more than I think PA will end up going to McCain, regardless of which Democrat he's running against.)

But do I believe that Obama's demonstrated strength in MS creates stronger coattails for a Democratic candidate like Childers in a swing district like MS-01? You bet I do - and that's equally true in places like CO, WY, NV, even AZ.


Ceci n'est pas une <<snark>>
by ipsos on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 01:53:27 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: What? (none / 0)

If you don't think Obama can win MS, then I don't understand how he would help down ballot candidates....


I proudly support Barack Obama for President!
by Zeitgeist9000 on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 02:56:06 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: What? (none / 0)

Are you being disingenuous, or do you really not get how this works?

It's all about voter turnout and motivation. We know Obama is especially strong among African-American voters, who make up a huge voting block in MS. We know ANY voter is more likely to make the effort to come to the polls and cast a ballot in the GE if they're motivated by the candidate at the top of the ballot, and the hard evidence from the primary is that 61% of Mississippi Democratic voters in general, and about 90% of Mississippi AA voters, are more motivated by Obama than by Clinton. We know, anecdotally, that some number of AA voters, probably a fairly large number, will stay home in November rather than come out to vote for Clinton.

Now, look at the raw numbers from the special election in MS-01 Tuesday. Childers came within about 400 votes of hitting the 50%+1 he needed to avoid a runoff.

Fast forward to November and imagine the difference in voter turnout in a district like MS-01 between an energized Democratic electorate that's pumped about Obama, and a Democratic electorate less motivated by Clinton. It's very easy to see how that difference in turnout can swing a close race like MS-01, even if it doesn't change the statewide vote at the top of the ticket.

That's what the whole concept of coattails is all about. You really don't see that?


Ceci n'est pas une <<snark>>
by ipsos on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 04:31:08 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: What? (none / 0)

Here is the information you requested.

Scroll down to the bottom and it list all polls taken by each state.  Focus on the 'border states' and you will see they are out of reach.  No Democrat has ever won the Presidency without winning Tennessee and Missouri. Not looking good.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/


by minnehot1 on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 02:27:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]

John McCain will be roundly defeated (none / 0)

I am just waiting for the main event to begin! How anyone would consider McSame a serious threat is beyond me. Americans are really not interested in all the Repiglican Flag pin nonsense. The rev wright smear didn't effect the Democratic vote. They are all Beltway none issues. The 06 elections made it obvious these clowns are all obsolete. I really believe except for that diehard wingnut 28% and the beltway talking heads Americans are sick of Repiglicans and that includes McSame. That is why I'm waiting for this primary to end and excluding some stange catastrophy, Obama can systematically destroy McInsane!


by eddieb on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 01:28:07 PM EST


You are not logged in.

In order to post a comment, you must be logged in. If you have a member account, please log in to comment.

If not, you can make an account right here. It's quick and free.