$10 Million

On MSNBC a few minutes ago Terry McCauliffe announced the Hillary Clinton campaign raised $10 million online "with 50,000 brand new donors" since the polls closed in Pennsylvania last night. "The biggest day we've ever had." An impressive amount by any measure and, as I wrote last night, a clear sign that people do not want this primary to be over.



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Re: $10 Million (1.00 / 5)

Pretty amazing. It will pay for a lot of ads in NC and Indiana. But I though outspending your opponent only to lose was a sign of weakness?


I know what will happen if Democrats don't win the presidency November 4th: we'll all regret the infighting, and it will be too late.
by DemUnity on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:05:06 PM EST

Re: $10 Million (1.83 / 6)

Outspending your opponent to lose is a sign of weakness, but Hillary won't outspend Obama, and she's not going to lose.


Our long national nightmare is over.
by Beltway Dem on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:12:51 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (1.00 / 5)

You're half right. No wait, you're wrong.


I know what will happen if Democrats don't win the presidency November 4th: we'll all regret the infighting, and it will be too late.
by DemUnity on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:14:57 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (2.00 / 2)

Wow.  The campaign sends a new meme out and it's parroted within minutes.


Stop H8
by mikeinsf on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:24:53 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

Did you just claim that Hillary's going to win NC and Indiana?  Nice.  Like Avistan (who on Sunday said Hillary would win PA 67-33), or gotalife (who on Monday predicted a 20 point PA win for Hillary).  

In all seriousness, its an amazing achievement to raise this much.  Hopefully, the campaign will start paying all the small businesspeople, rather than leaving them empty-handed.  


Saxby Chambliss
by bosdcla14 on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:57:21 PM EST
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On to Denver! (none / 0)

Blood in the streets....


by minnehot1 on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:15:47 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (2.00 / 1)

"she's not going to lose."

Not going to lose NC? Care to make a wager?


by rhetoricus on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:01:41 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

If obama loses NC then Hillary wins.

The problem is race and sex has become insane in this race


by kang5 on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 04:40:02 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

Are you sure??? This race hasn't gotten me laid  yet!!!:)


by Democratic Unity on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 05:35:38 PM EST
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You are being TRed (2.00 / 1)

for your own use of TR where it is not warranted...
Have a nice day!!
If you follow history with a long enough arc, things always get better, and the truth always prevails...Gandhi
by SevenStrings on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:25:33 PM EST
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Re: You are being TRed (1.00 / 4)

Returning the favor sir. You have been TR'd for coming to another diary and doing a drive-by.


I know what will happen if Democrats don't win the presidency November 4th: we'll all regret the infighting, and it will be too late.
by DemUnity on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:41:57 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

"People do not want this primary to be over"

Some people do - some people don't.


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:42:10 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (1.00 / 2)

Most Democrats WANT IT TO BE OVER The Clintonistas are the only ones that don't want it to end because they can't accept reality that in fact is really all over for Clinton. Sorry but true!


by eddieb on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:06:09 PM EST
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So Clintonistas aren't Democrats? (none / 0)

Way to build the party there pal.  You toss the Clintonistas out of the party and you're left a with a tiny LOSING party.


by Rooktoven on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 05:00:42 PM EST
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Re: So Clintonistas aren't Democrats? (2.00 / 1)

Well Hillary threw activists out of her "party" and slandered them with lies stolen from Karl Rove:

"Moveon.org endorsed [Sen. Barack Obama] -- which is like a gusher of money that never seems to slow down," Clinton said to a meeting of donors. "We have been less successful in caucuses because it brings out the activist base of the Democratic Party. MoveOn didn't even want us to go into Afghanistan. I mean, that's what we're dealing with. And you know they turn out in great numbers. And they are very driven by their view of our positions, and it's primarily national security and foreign policy that drives them. I don't agree with them. They know I don't agree with them. So they flood into these caucuses and dominate them and really intimidate people who actually show up to support me."
Hillary Rodam Clinton February 2007


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Read this: http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/15/1427 30/254

by GeorgeP922 on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 05:07:26 PM EST
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Re: So Clintonistas aren't Democrats? (none / 0)

Way to post an entire paragraph to get one word out of her that could be considered derogatory.

Pretty much pales in comparison to your blanket throwing of the 45%+ Clinton supporters in the Democratic party under the bus.


-- The Texas Blue: http://www.thetexasblue.com
by George Nassar on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 12:11:52 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (2.00 / 1)

Before buying new ads in NC and Indiana, I think they ought to pay the caterers and vendors they have been stiffing for the last few months.  

Penn can wait, but pay the little guys.


by smoker1 on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 04:10:46 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

MOJO!


I know what will happen if Democrats don't win the presidency November 4th: we'll all regret the infighting, and it will be too late.
by DemUnity on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 04:40:21 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

If you're concerned about outspending your opponent and still losing being a sign of weakness, maybe you shouldn't be looking away from Pennsylvania just yet.  After all, Obama outspent Clinton drastically there -- no surprise, he had more money.  "Narrowing the gap" to "only" a ten point loss is a pretty tough victory claim.


-- The Texas Blue: http://www.thetexasblue.com
by George Nassar on Thu Apr 24, 2008 at 12:13:28 PM EST
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Holy crap! (2.00 / 4)

Doesn't that beat all the other 24 hour records out there?
by linc on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:06:17 PM EST

Re: Holy crap! (2.00 / 1)

Except they HAVEN'T.

Terry M. said Clinton was ON TRACK to raise that much, not that they have raised it.  He's projecting based on very recent giving.

See http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsm emo.com/2008/04/hillary_on_track_to_rais e_10_m.php


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:10:40 PM EST
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Re: Holy crap! (none / 0)

They have.


While I could sit in church and pray all I want, I wouldn't be fulfilling God's will unless I went out and did the Lord's work ~ Barack Obama
by bowiegeek on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 10:47:01 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (2.00 / 2)

People want Hillary.  And they showed it last night.


by Caldonia on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:06:28 PM EST

Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

50,000 people donated an average of 200 each. That's not really a mandate, is it?


by Bipolar Disorder Democrat on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:17:27 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (2.00 / 4)

$200 was exactly what I sent so I must be one of the 50,000. This is typical of the comments of the Obama fans, anyway you cut the mustard raising 10 million in 24 hours is a hell of an achievement. I don't know whether she's going to be able to pull it around but I hope so because what the demographics of last night demonstrate as the demographics in all the big states have demonstrated, is that with Obama as the nominee we lose. We don't carry a single southern state, we probably lose two or three traditional democratic bastions in the Northeast and go down to defeat. You can ascribe the cause to any reason you like, and I'm not going to get into any of the whys, but it will happen with almost total certainty.  


by ottovbvs on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:52:12 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (2.00 / 1)

I guess Obama people can not read. It is 50,000 new donor people who have not donated before. She probably got donations from at least 200-300K people in the last 16-18 hours to make up that total.


by CMFost23 on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:58:09 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

Thank you for strengthening my point.


by Bipolar Disorder Democrat on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:27:24 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (2.00 / 1)

I dropped $250 to her last night.


by mashews on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:22:17 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

"People want Hillary."

Some people do. Some people don't.


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:42:37 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

And as it turns out, more people don't.


by kyle in philly on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:04:31 PM EST
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Except in PA (none / 0)

and NJ, and CA, and TX and NY, etc..., where more people do.


by Rooktoven on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 05:02:15 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (1.28 / 7)

I think you mean "Hillary's people" don't want this to be over, at least until they can completely destroy the party.  It IS over.


by MikeyB on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:07:09 PM EST

Re: $10 Million (2.00 / 5)

80% of those people were new donors.


Fight for Democrats in Congress.
by owl06 on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:08:33 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

Yeah, like I said, "Hillary's people."


by MikeyB on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:13:19 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (2.00 / 8)

you mean democrats?


--++++Stay Gold, Ponyboy!++++--
by amde on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:15:45 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (2.00 / 0)

I think it is foolhardy to say only Democrats are donating to Hillary....

It would not surprise me in the least if some of these new donors, who want this to continue, have a vested interest in making certain it continues... to the betterment of their party or candidate... which is neither Clinton nor Obama...


"If you ever post anything on that website again, I will shove a motherboard so far up your a$$...!" C.J Cregg
by JenKinFLA on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:17:58 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (2.00 / 6)

I think it's equally foolhardy to say only Democrats are donated to Obama.

Sheesh between the comments on this thread and the Axelrod comment about white working voters there sure is a lot of sour grapes today.


by JustJennifer on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:19:28 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

My grapes taste just fine thank you...

You tell me...  how could a campaign raise $10 million in one night when they raised $20 million in an entire month...?  What was so extraordinarily special about last night that was special about winning Ohio...?


"If you ever post anything on that website again, I will shove a motherboard so far up your a$$...!" C.J Cregg
by JenKinFLA on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:30:20 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (2.00 / 3)

I can only speak from experience...

I gave her more money last night (not a first time donor)

A co-worker of mine gave her money for the first time last night.

I think the excitement of her winning another big state just carried over to her supporters.  I don't see this as being a vast right wing conspiracy.


by JustJennifer on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:53:48 PM EST
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Its Obam who is destroying this party (1.83 / 6)

with his Quixotic bid- i.e. he can't win the general. I will not have another defeat. So please, kindly go feed on some rhetoric and be quiet about Hillary's people- its the majority of registered Democrats in this country, in case you forgot.
by linc on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:14:57 PM EST
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Queen Hillary (1.00 / 6)

Sorry that Obama and the voters in Democratic primaries and caucuses have ruined Queen Hillary's coronation. The entitlement among Hillary supporters is sickening.  Maybe she can take the money she conned out of her supporters and pay off Mark Penn now.


by elrod on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:17:29 PM EST
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Shush now (none / 0)

She needs to pay her employees' health care and the AV & catering companies that she's been stiffing before she gives Mark Penn a red cent.


You can't stop the signal.

President "That One"

by Dracomicron on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:04:04 PM EST
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Re: Its Obam who is destroying this party (2.00 / 5)

Neither of our candidates is "destroying the party," they are campaigning in a very close Democratic primary.  Enough with the melodrama, people.


And so, may evil beware and may good dress warmly and eat lots of fresh vegetables.
by thatpurplestuff on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:18:11 PM EST
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I know that very well (none / 0)

its fire with fire though, did you notice the comment I was responding to?
by linc on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:25:06 PM EST
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Re: I know that very well (2.00 / 1)

you know what happens when you fight fire with fire...?  

You burn down the whole house.


"If you ever post anything on that website again, I will shove a motherboard so far up your a$$...!" C.J Cregg
by JenKinFLA on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:31:37 PM EST
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Did you (2.00 / 2)

say that very thing to your fellow that I was responding to or are you practicing hypocrisy?
by linc on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:34:06 PM EST
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Re: Did you (none / 0)

Have not gone back and read through again... just responding to quotes...

But do you call out Clinton supporters for their vitriol or are you practicing hypocrisy as well...?  

Never mind, I can guess the answer.


"If you ever post anything on that website again, I will shove a motherboard so far up your a$$...!" C.J Cregg
by JenKinFLA on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:39:20 PM EST
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In fact (none / 0)

I do- especially the nonsense- most especially misinformation and particularly- racism.
by linc on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:42:11 PM EST
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Re: Did you (2.00 / 0)

Shall I presume that you are going to respond to every single post on these boards that accuses Obama of destroying the party or something similar?

Neither of them are destroying the party.  Although I am still waiting for them both to turn the heat up on McCain.


"If you ever post anything on that website again, I will shove a motherboard so far up your a$$...!" C.J Cregg
by JenKinFLA on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:41:36 PM EST
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Re: I know that very well (2.00 / 1)

Yeah the only reason I only responded to you was because you were the last one to comment.  Like I said, our candidates are busting their asses campaigning in a hard fought election.  There was a front page diary yesterday about the party actually being grown nationwide because both of our candidates are creating bases of support as they travel from state to state.  That sounds awesome to me.


And so, may evil beware and may good dress warmly and eat lots of fresh vegetables.
by thatpurplestuff on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:34:48 PM EST
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Its the greatest thing (2.00 / 3)

that could ever happened- and I wish I could give all the credit to my Howard Dean, but it really looks like the whole thing was unitentional...

I don't want this thing to stop until we have gone through every single state and engaged every single person possible- I want a sweep in November, a landslide, an earthqake.

You are right, I shouldn't have responded so reactively-
by linc on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:38:40 PM EST
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Re: Its the greatest thing (2.00 / 1)

No worries.  I know how easy it is to get caught up in the moment here.  There are a lot of people here that thrive on pissing people off, and it's easy to sometimes let them get to you.  I completely agree that this should go on until every state has voted and engaged everyone.  The right wingers are crowing about how this drawn out primary is hurting the Democrats, and I would love to shove it back in their faces when we've got party apparatus' all over the nation ready to kick the crap out of Republicans from the Presidential election down the ticket.


And so, may evil beware and may good dress warmly and eat lots of fresh vegetables.
by thatpurplestuff on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:46:36 PM EST
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There is some glee involved (2.00 / 1)

It's pretty ironic that, in helping Clinton continue in the primary, the Republican media is indirectly driving up Democratic voter registration and excitement all over the country.

They think we're vicious with each other, wait until they see what we do to them.


You can't stop the signal.

President "That One"

by Dracomicron on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:06:53 PM EST
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Running doesn't destroy the party (none / 0)

Agreed, by running still she is not destroying the party at all.

She will destroy the party if, in hopes of a 2012 bid, she works against Obama AFTER he gets the nomination (if he gets it), or if she pulls a Lieberman.


by rhetoricus on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:05:25 PM EST
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Re: Running doesn't destroy the party (none / 0)

It is funny that you bring up Liebermann becuase this race is looking like it is going to turnout the same way that one did. People got all excited about Lamont but when it came down to the GE the better candidate was Liebermann.


by CMFost23 on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:08:19 PM EST
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Re: Running doesn't destroy the party (none / 0)

This has got to be snark.

I've never seen so much voters' remorse since Nixon, coming from the people who voted Liebermann this time.

You do know he's on the docket for the GOP convention this year, don't you? But thanks for outing yourself as a closet Republican.


by rhetoricus on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:46:10 PM EST
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Enough with the pilory (none / 0)

Vote Hillary!


by activatedbybush on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 06:09:01 PM EST
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Enough with the pilory (none / 0)

Vote Hillary!


by activatedbybush on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 06:09:09 PM EST
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Re: Its Obam who is destroying this party (none / 0)

You're right, it is not the candidates it is:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2012/2437 547526_6d63f5b0be.jpg?v=0

Found this it dKos (it is not inflammatory, I promise).  Don't know how to embed the image, so sorry!  I just see these guys doing their best to make the dems attack each other on petty issues rather than discuss the real issues; all in the name for ratings.


Capitalization is the difference between "I had to help my uncle Jack off a horse..." and "I had to help my uncle jack off a horse..."
by igottheblues on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 07:35:19 PM EST
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Re: Its Obam who is destroying this party (2.00 / 1)

Doesn't deserve a troll rating.  Lame.


by reggie44pride on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:18:40 PM EST
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Re: Its Obam who is destroying this party (1.00 / 1)

mojo rated against the TR.  The same person TR-ed me.  Hmmmm, funny how the supporters opt for nasty tactics in the face of opposition, just like their candidate does. If you can't attack the argument, attack the person.  Nice.


by MikeyB on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:35:48 PM EST
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Re: Its Obam who is destroying this party (none / 0)

What happens if (more likely when, but I'll use if to not shift focus) Obama has more pledged delegates at the end, controls the committees, and wins the nomination?  


by quixote27 on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:18:54 PM EST
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He can't control anyting (none / 0)

the myth is that the one with the most pledged delegates 'controls the committee', but in fact it is rather the one who has already secured the nomination- 2025 delegates I believe? Neither candidate will have that and there is a good chance, given that MI and FL will have rep on the credentials committee, that the credentials committee will recommend that the delegates from FL and MI be seated.

There is not control in this primary- both will have to rely on Super delegates to determine the winner of the race.
by linc on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:27:39 PM EST
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Re: He can't control anyting (none / 0)

OK fine.  But what if?


by quixote27 on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:52:32 PM EST
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The SD's will have ended it by then. (none / 0)

..and then they'll be seated.


by rhetoricus on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:06:25 PM EST
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Re: Its Obam who is destroying this party (2.00 / 0)

Ummm... small problem... Hillary's still losing.  I'm know there's a whole set of rules agreed upon that are no longer considered fair, clever ways of doing math, states that "don't count"... but she's still losing.


Stop H8
by mikeinsf on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:27:20 PM EST
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I completely love (none / 0)

calling Obama's bid "Quixotic."  He is winning!  Absolutely hilarious.


by snaktime on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:50:50 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

It's over when one of them has 2025. Why should she stop when she keeps winning?


by NJDEM1 on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 04:06:40 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (2.00 / 2)

what a wonderful accomplishment. the people have spoken - they want a choice, and that choice is Hillary (she leads the popular vote).


Fight for Democrats in Congress.
by owl06 on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:07:59 PM EST

Re: $10 Million (2.00 / 3)

Yep, she leads if you count all her votes in states the DNC said didn't count and where neither of them campaigned, and -- on top of that -- credit her with a shutout in Michigan, where your count assumes Obama was incapable of drawing a single vote.  Oh, wait, that's still not enough to put her ahead.  You also have to opt not to count a half dozen caucus states' vote totals.  But yeah, you're right, she's now "ahead."  

Good luck selling that one.  


by HSTruman on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:13:32 PM EST
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Obama still ahead with MI/FL (none / 0)

Read RCP politics.

The measure you are using leaves out IA, NV, ME, and WA.

With those factored in, Obama is still ahead even with Hillary getting MI and FL.

(And anyone arguing that MI's numbers, which record no votes for Obama but where Obama polls ahead of Clinton, are a true measure of the "popular vote" that can be predictive of November is on crack.)


by rhetoricus on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:18:07 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

More problems with math, eh?


by clad on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:28:25 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (2.00 / 0)

Judging by the events of the past two months, a joint ticket is the only way out.


I know what will happen if Democrats don't win the presidency November 4th: we'll all regret the infighting, and it will be too late.
by DemUnity on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:08:47 PM EST

You said it (2.00 / 0)

there will be no other option.
by linc on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:16:03 PM EST
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Re: You said it (none / 0)

Isn't the other option that he wins the nomination and picks the VP of his choice?


by quixote27 on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:19:45 PM EST
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Re: You said it (none / 0)

I don't think Obama would be her veep.  Let her reap what she's sown.  If she gets it, she might as well just ask Bill. It's probably unconstitutional, but when have rules ever stopped her.


Stop H8
by mikeinsf on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:29:57 PM EST
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Obama won't agree to Veep (none / 0)

He's not a DLC. He doesn't want the legacy of an administration he has no say in.


by rhetoricus on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:20:14 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (2.00 / 0)

I don't think a joint ticket will happen and I don't think it'll matter come November.  I lean more and more towards the notion that McCain may have already won this thing.


This administration is not sinking. This administration is soaring! If anything, they are rearranging the deck chairs on the Hindenburg!
by venavena on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:29:17 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

Meh, in a way he's the one who deserves to inherit the mess the GOP has left.

Too bad we'd have to inherit it too.


by rhetoricus on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:21:07 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

...well 50,000 don't want this race to end. Obama has almost 1,400,000 contributors.


Obama 08!
by comingawakening on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:08:54 PM EST

Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

sorry that is now OVER 1,400,000 contributors. Soon to be 1,500,000!


Obama 08!
by comingawakening on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:10:20 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

wow that is a very smart comparison.


by 1986dude on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:12:27 PM EST
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Except it leaves out (2.00 / 0)

all the Hillary donors that aren't new donors- how is that smart and not inaccurate?
by linc on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:17:04 PM EST
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Not there yet? (2.00 / 0)

I thought there was a push to get to 1.5 million some time ago.  He's not there yet?


by DaveOinSF on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:23:49 PM EST
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Re: Not there yet? (none / 0)

It's by May 6.


Stop H8
by mikeinsf on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:31:28 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

Can all of this money be used in the primary is the question.


by regina1983 on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:09:27 PM EST

Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

yes


by poserM on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:11:07 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

my guess is about 60-70% of it can be...but who knows how much for sure.


Oh Mammy Dear, we're all mad over here livin' in America
by JDF on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:11:14 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

we will find out next month when we get the FEC numbers

we know they sometimes ask for GE donations so they can report a higher total, and wow $10 million dollars in less then 24 hrs?

that is DAMN impressive.

heh I can't wait to see the FEC break down.
I mean if those 50,000 each donated $100 thats still only 5 million.

wow


Dream for tomorrow but fight for it today.
by TruthMatters on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:11:46 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

Um, just to point out, but he's saying 50,000 new donors, but he isn't suggesting that the 50,000 new donors are the ones solely responsible for the fundraising.


by toonsterwu on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:17:23 PM EST
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WOW! (2.00 / 0)


by Zeitgeist9000 on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:10:13 PM EST

Re: $10 Million (2.00 / 1)

That's an impressive amount of money, no doubt about it.  I sincerely hope that all the money that both of our candidates now have isn't wasted in mutually assured destruction.  Ideally, it would be nice if the nomination was worth having.  


by HSTruman on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:10:52 PM EST

Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

Ideally, it would be nice if the nomination was worth having.

We had our chance with Edwards, and Gore were he to have run.


by reggie44pride on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:20:43 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

10 mil ... isn't that the figure they were indebted for the day before yesterday?


by judyo on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:12:18 PM EST

Re: $10 Million (2.00 / 1)

So when Hillary raises money, it's all well and good, but when Obama raises money, he's wielding an unfair advantage?

So is money evil or isn't it?


by Aris Katsaris on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:12:39 PM EST

Re: $10 Million (2.00 / 4)

come back to earth..what are you talking about?


by 1986dude on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:14:35 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (2.00 / 1)

The whining about Obama's money advantage in PA. Hillary should be congratulated for raising money from grassroots donors and she shouldn't be blasted for spending it in IN or NC. And neither should Obama.


by elrod on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:19:35 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (2.00 / 1)

whining? who and when?

As far as I can remember, Hillary never whined about the money advantage of Obama, she pointed it out as a fact.


by 1986dude on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:24:35 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (2.00 / 1)

Then you must have been living under a rock these last several weeks. I don't think I ever went five minutes with the news on without hearing how Obama "outspent Hillary" eight-million-to-one in PA.


by rhetoricus on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:29:33 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (2.00 / 1)

or this statement from February, the most egregious words she ever spoke:

"Moveon.org endorsed [Sen. Barack Obama] -- which is like a gusher of money that never seems to slow down," Clinton said to a meeting of donors. "We have been less successful in caucuses because it brings out the activist base of the Democratic Party. MoveOn didn't even want us to go into Afghanistan. I mean, that's what we're dealing with. And you know they turn out in great numbers. And they are very driven by their view of our positions, and it's primarily national security and foreign policy that drives them. I don't agree with them. They know I don't agree with them. So they flood into these caucuses and dominate them and really intimidate people who actually show up to support me."


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by GeorgeP922 on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 04:50:01 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

Yes, damn the base of the Democratic party!

This is exactly how DLC politics kept Dems in the minority for 12 years (and gutless even when in the majority).


by rhetoricus on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 06:00:55 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (2.00 / 1)

Who would have known that Hillary and her supporters hated their own people so much.

Let's make a goal to have the DLC disbanded by next 2009 and Bush Dog Demorats by 2012.

The DLC is far more dangerous, they are a continuous net loss.    

Centrism is just another concession to republicans.  


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by GeorgeP922 on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 06:13:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

This deserves its own diary


by rhetoricus on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 06:27:29 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (1.33 / 3)

Judging by the fact that she raised only $20 million in all of March, something is fishy here. Does the GOP see the chance to prop her up and make this bloody battle even longer?

When are we going to acknowledge that Barack is running against two people, and two organizations, the GOP and the Clintons, at once?


I know what will happen if Democrats don't win the presidency November 4th: we'll all regret the infighting, and it will be too late.
by DemUnity on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:13:46 PM EST

Re: $10 Million (2.00 / 1)

now its fishy cause people are donating to her??  people cant possibly be doing that? it MUST be a conspiracy!!!!

the GOP is behind it all!!

seriously get a grip,dude.


--++++Stay Gold, Ponyboy!++++--
by amde on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:20:14 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: $10 Million (2.00 / 1)

Well, in one less than 24 hour period she raise more money than she raised in an entire month...?

It certainly begs the question of what were they doing last night that they were doing before...


"If you ever post anything on that website again, I will shove a motherboard so far up your a$$...!" C.J Cregg
by JenKinFLA on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:22:52 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

lalalala....lol


by 1986dude on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:25:24 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

if these donors were like me, they were waiting. Are you going to donate to a campaing that is on the brink of death? no. You wait to see how Penn. goes before you go dishing out the cash for this lady.... thats what alot of people i have talked to said.

It might have been the speech, which i have to say was super inspiring.

maybe donors were waiting for a sign?

those numbers are impressive.


--++++Stay Gold, Ponyboy!++++--
by amde on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:36:32 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

It's what she was doing last night that made the difference: winning.


by randym77 on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:04:37 PM EST
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Meh (none / 0)

No realistic person doubted she would win PA. She went in leading by 20-26 points just weeks ago.


by rhetoricus on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:31:23 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (2.00 / 1)

WOW - so you cannot believe that Hillary can inspire people in an honest way?  Her speech last night was fab - only KO, with his arrogant tone about HER tone (which no one else heard), was disapproving

She was wonderful last night and was focused about the problems we currently face together.  And very down to earth.  She is a fighter and she wants to work for us (isn't that what we elect presidents for?)

And that DOES inspire people to give.


by colebiancardi on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:23:09 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

Yeah, KO can show too much bias, it borders on disrespect (kind of like how Buchanan, Scarborough, Dobbs, Stephanopulous, Gibson etc are showing naked, obnoxious bias for Clinton these days).

Even Maher and Stewart, who clearly don't love Clinton, at least give her respect.


by rhetoricus on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:36:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

The GOP is struggling to raise money for itself, how do you figure they've got donors to spare for Democrats?


by jimotto on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:35:46 PM EST
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Congratulations Senator Clinton (1.66 / 3)

Perhaps gravity is finally reaching Planet Obama & we can avert the suicidal stupidity of annointing Barack Obama & actually win the White House.


by bluemoon on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:16:58 PM EST

Re: Congratulations Senator Clinton (none / 0)

anoiting....?  Oh, I get it... the Messiah crap from before... the whole cult thing.. hahaha....

Gee, people wonder why there is in-fighting... perhaps because of dumb statements like this...?  


"If you ever post anything on that website again, I will shove a motherboard so far up your a$$...!" C.J Cregg
by JenKinFLA on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:25:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

Unforuntately for Clinton fans, this money is probably either going to Obama's GE fund or to pay off her creditors.


by reggie44pride on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:17:25 PM EST

Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

well she damn well better pay her debts

will be hard to argue starting a 4th straight month in debt, especially when you can raise enough to pay that debt in 1 day.


Dream for tomorrow but fight for it today.
by TruthMatters on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:17:45 PM EST

Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

Doesn't she still have to pay off the balloon vendors in Iowa?  /sn


Stop H8
by mikeinsf on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:34:14 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

10 Million?  Wow, very impressive.  I wonder how much Obama has raised.


by Bobby Obama on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:19:10 PM EST

Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

My guess, not as much. But he's had about 40 to 50 thousand donations since yesterday evening.


by poserM on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:54:52 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (2.00 / 3)

Holy shit are you kidding me? And people people want her to drop out? Screw that, keep on fighting!


Restore America's Strength.
by RJEvans on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:19:23 PM EST

Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

That's right, since her debt was 10.3 million at the start of April (and one would assume that grew steadily until last night), she now is just dead broke, rather than in-debt. (assuming she actually pays her creditors, many of whom are those small-town Americans she purports to champion).

Good for her.

Too bad she almost completely maxed out her alloted primary expenditures prior to New Hampshire.


by rhetoricus on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 06:05:10 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

Going by just the counter on Obama's site they have had about 40,000 donations since PA polls closed.


by Bobby Obama on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:19:51 PM EST

Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

"As of 10:30 a.m., the campaign had raised $3.5 million, 80 percent of which came from new donors, spokesman Mo Elleithee told reporters. He called it ``our best fundraising night ever."

They must have had some afternoon today. Do you have a link to that?

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=2 0601070&sid=a_3hzhPjhrgs&refer=h ome


by mady on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:22:13 PM EST

Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

Obama's NEW donors counter went from 1,375,000 around 9PM last night to 1,409,345 as of this moment (1:17PM Central). That's a bit over 34 thousand, once again, new donors. At an average of $100 per donation, that's a nice $3.4 million from new donors on a night when Mr. Obama lost a primary contest by 9 points. If you ask me, the dude is sitting pretty.

Also, the $10 million number is impressive, and I'm sure many of the vendors/businesses that are owed money by the Clinton campaign are just as excited as everyone about this wonderful news.


_____________
changiness
by lizardbox on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:24:41 PM EST

Obama made his sales pitch (2.00 / 1)

He put everything he had into the state, desperately wanting to acquire an unambiguous status as front runner.  But Pennsylvania said, "No."  

Obama lost the Philadelphia suburbs.  What the heck!?  


Young lifelong Democrat. One of over 3,000,000 voters who kicked McCain and Palin out of Pennsylvania, permanently.
by BPK80 on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:28:44 PM EST

Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

YOU.GO.GIRL!


by johnnygunn on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:30:03 PM EST

Re: $10 Million (2.00 / 1)

I love the smell of Obama failure in the morning.


by Jim J on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:30:40 PM EST

Re: $10 Million (2.00 / 0)

Looking forward to the next two. Methinks you won't be clucking then.


Stop H8
by mikeinsf on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:36:10 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

Not sure what you're talking about. I'm just a low-information, typical white person busy clinging to guns, God, etc. Pardon me, I have to wipe away some drool off my overhanging belly now.


by Jim J on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:46:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

Props for being honest about yourself.


by wasder on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:47:20 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

Oh, my, a "zinger."


by Jim J on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:06:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

Dude, you said it.


by wasder on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 05:51:30 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

Sensitive?


Stop H8
by mikeinsf on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:51:57 PM EST
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$10 Million-Impressive (none / 0)

It'll keep her going now.  She's got about $10 million clear if she pays the debt.


This administration is not sinking. This administration is soaring! If anything, they are rearranging the deck chairs on the Hindenburg!
by venavena on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:32:36 PM EST

I don't think they'll want it to be over, even (none / 0)

when it's actually over.  In a scenario where there are no states left, Obama has all the delegate advantage, I think those 50,000 are so partisan they would want to continue.  It's partisan self-indulgence and it needs to stop before the convention or else we're all screwed.


by Tenafly Viper on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:34:52 PM EST

Yeah (none / 0)

So partisan that they never even bothered to donate to her before now.


by randym77 on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:09:51 PM EST
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Re: I don't think they'll want it to be over, even (none / 0)

The voting isn't over yet.
Let's not count your delegates before they hatch.
by stefystef on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 04:10:19 PM EST
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Nah (none / 0)

If she's not won the popular vote, then I think that she should call it a day.

If she does win the PV, and is on a roll, then I would like the SDs to give her a hearing.  

Anyway, I'm on my way to raise her next $10M.  


by activatedbybush on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 06:12:03 PM EST
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Nah (none / 0)

If she's not won the popular vote, then I think that she should call it a day.

If she does win the PV, and is on a roll, then I would like the SDs to give her a hearing.  

Anyway, I'm on my way to raise her next $10M.  


by activatedbybush on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 06:12:08 PM EST
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Re: Nah (none / 0)

but according to some clinton supporters on this thread, she pulled ahead in the popular vote last night, if you:
1.Don't count the four caucus states that haven't reported hard numbers
2.Count Florida
3.Count Michigan as zero votes for Obama

If we look at the remaining contests, the popular vote margin probably will stay about the same.  So she's already starting the argument that she IS leading the popular vote.  Corzine actually suggested today that NONE of the caucus states should count in the popular vote.

Unless Obama wins Indiana by more than 10, Oregon by 20, North carolina by 25 and keeps Puerto Rico very close, Clinton will have some way to argue that she's leading the popular vote.


Want a progressive global warming novel, not a right wing rant? Go to www.edwardgtalbot.com for a free audio thriller.
by edparrot on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 06:47:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Why get bent about a few irrationals? (none / 0)

You gotta count the caucus states.  I think you gotta count FL amd MI, but give Obama the undecideds (votes AGAINST Clinton).  

The path forward is quite favorable to Clinton.   I believe that she can close the PV gap.  Can she catch Obama?  I don't know.  It's possible, but not probable.   Will be interesting.


by activatedbybush on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 07:08:33 PM EST
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"People" want Obama (2.00 / 1)

"An impressive amount by any measure and, as I wrote last night, a clear sign that people do not want this primary to be over."

Clever spin, I suppose, but by this logic Obama's superior fundraising among small donors shows much more compellingly that "people" want Obama to be the nominee.


by AdrianLesher on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:35:25 PM EST

Re: "People" want Obama (none / 0)

Obama is fading and judging by the hysterical, smug responses on this thread, you all know it.

His high-water mark is past, the fad has crested. It's all downhill for him from here, and I believe most of you are all too aware for that.


by Jim J on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:40:57 PM EST
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Re: "People" want Obama (2.00 / 2)

I don't get why folks have to trash talk. I congratulated Clinton and her supporters last night. She used to be my preferred candidate and she got a 9% win which is certainly solid.  But why call names?


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:45:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]

The tide has turned. (none / 0)

"Iran ready to discuss nuclear dispute-Ahmadinejad"

Yup, don't mess with Clinton.


by gotalife on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:40:57 PM EST

Re: The tide has turned. (none / 0)

love it.


by zane on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:44:58 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

this is brilliant, i am maxed out but i am getting others in family and around to donate.


by zane on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:46:19 PM EST

Er, Hold On.... (2.00 / 1)

Per TPM, McAuliffe said that HRC is ON TRACK to raise $10 million by the end of the day.  Not quite the same thing.

I'm just sayin'.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsm emo.com/2008/04/hillary_on_track_to_rais e_10_m.php


by Vivianne on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:46:42 PM EST

Re: Er, Hold On.... (none / 0)

Thanks.  I was wondering how they went from 3.5 million at 10:30 a.m. to 10 million at 2 p.m.  


by mady on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:53:36 PM EST
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Re: Er, Hold On.... (none / 0)

I just saw that on Politico too.  I'm read it's about 3.5 mil.


This administration is not sinking. This administration is soaring! If anything, they are rearranging the deck chairs on the Hindenburg!
by venavena on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:54:53 PM EST
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Re: Er, Hold On.... (1.00 / 2)

I gave $200 at about 1.00 EST. She's going to do it. This carping small mindeness of the Obama supporters is rather typical isn't it.  


by ottovbvs on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:55:43 PM EST
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Re: Er, Hold On.... (none / 0)

Not carping, really.  It was clearly a good win, the figures just did not make sense to me.  They would have made no more sense if posted for Obama.  3.5 million is not chopped liver anyway.


by mady on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:59:28 PM EST
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Re: Er, Hold On.... (2.00 / 1)

So pointing out that the diarist's statement is factually incorrect is "carping small mindeness"?  Really?

$3.5 million by 10:30 this morning was impressive.  If she can actually raise another $6.5 million today, that is VERY impressive.  But "on track" and actually doing it are two different things.  If that makes me small-minded, then so be it.


by Vivianne on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:06:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Donated $25 today... (none / 0)

...Will you join me?


by andrewalker08 on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:49:22 PM EST

Re: Donated $25 today... (none / 0)

Yes! and i got 2 other people to match my donation.


--++++Stay Gold, Ponyboy!++++--
by amde on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:56:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Donated $25 today... (none / 0)

I donated $50 a week ago.  Money was well spent.
I will make more donations after payday next week closer to Indiana.

I hope New Hampster goes to IN or NC.  I think he's Hillary lucky charm!


by stefystef on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:59:56 PM EST
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She's got this wrapped up! (2.00 / 1)

Nine 70% to 30% victories in a row and Obama is done.


by snaktime on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:52:14 PM EST

Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

Nice to know my $25 is in good company. 50,000 new friends.

Yes, she will!!


by ineedalife on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 02:54:43 PM EST

Re: $10 Million (2.00 / 1)

Two points:

1.  On Hillary's fundraising, I am highly skeptical that all of it is for the GE.  In the past, her figures have usually turned out to be misleading.  As some have noted, next month's FEC will tell all -- but if I were her team and I suspected I was going to win (at all) in PA, I would set it up with donors ahead of time.  It's a variation on what one sees with Obama and the elusive group of "super delegates preparing to surge to him."  

2.  More to the point, anyone who thinks Obama was a flash in the pan or is somehow fading I think are deluding themselves.  On the campaign trail, his events are as big as ever, the money is still pouring in, and super delegates (no dummies on who has the momentum) continue to move in his direction.  The thing that has changed the most is the MSM's overall narrative -- the ratings are great as long as the race is viewed as close -- therefore the narrative will overplay the extent to which this race is close.


by jd2iii on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:05:57 PM EST

Re: $10 Million (2.00 / 2)

I pledged on another blog that I would put in five bucks for every point in her margin.  So today I had to put my money where my mouth was - fifty bucks kind of hurts, but as supporters we know that we are the ones that have made Hillary's campaign a success for the past two months.

By showing us that you should never back down from your principles, and always fight for what you know is right, Hillary sets a good role model.


by bobbank on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:07:20 PM EST

Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

You really should have given $45.


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:12:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

Oh good, now she's just broke, not in debt.

Principles need to start somewhere.


by rhetoricus on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 04:33:24 PM EST
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Re: $10 Million (2.00 / 1)

As long as Clinton supporters are committed to voting for a Democrat, regardless of who it is, in the fall, then as an Obama supporter I give you all my congratulations on your candidate's win and recent fundraising fortunes.


Voting for John McCain is not God bless America.
by SFValues on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:15:49 PM EST

Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

Hear Hear. Same sentiment from me.


by rhetoricus on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:47:32 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

Nice.  Now they can pay back all those small business owners they're currently stiffing.

Good to see that Hillary supporters feel fiscal responsibility and paying off one's debts is important.  Let's see if the campaign feels the same way.


by Capt America on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:17:48 PM EST

Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

yup, hopefully those small business owners haven't gone out of business for the lack of payment in the meantime.


by rhetoricus on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:37:52 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

Obama is right... there are alot of bitter people out there.  And they are all with the Obama camp.


by stefystef on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:57:58 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

and I'm guessing that camp now includes the people Hillary didn't see fit to pay, even though she could have reached into her own riches.


by rhetoricus on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 04:26:03 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: The $10 Million Show (none / 0)

It's mostly the show that they want to go on. Like American Idol (or better yet  The Truman Show) - it's just so riveting.

And for just $25.00 you can make it go on and on. But when in June Obama is the clear winner by all measures and the supers give him the nod (because a convention fight would be an unseemly spectacle to allow out over the airwaves) - it suddenly won't be so interesting - and everyone can turn to the Olympics before the fall season and the GE races begin. Cynical much? You bet!


by CB Todd on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:33:33 PM EST

Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

A more accurate statement would be that SOME people want this primary to continue.  Many do not, and likely many more than the 50,000 folks who gave Hillary money today.  Of course, a consistent message from the Clinton campaign and her supporters has been anyone who doesn't vote for or support her doesn't matter so I guess you're consistent.

And this is how we treat our allies...


by jjhare on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 03:56:08 PM EST

A record? (2.00 / 1)

Has any other campaign ever raised more than 10 mil / 1 day? The Ron Paul Money-Bomb took some 6 mil, isn't it?


by eumc on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 04:06:43 PM EST

Clarification (none / 0)

It is a clear sign some people want the race to continue.

But considering we're talking about less than then the number of people who voted for Ron Paul yesterday, it's only real significance is that there are too many people who don't understand math and/or are willing to piss away money.


by Bob Brigham on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 04:10:25 PM EST

Re: Clarification (none / 0)

Thats a great point, I didnt even frame it that way.

Also according to their math the straight average would be 200$ per person.    
Thats a little high for a campain that was really in debt.

Lets see how much money they donate next week.


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by GeorgeP922 on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 04:23:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Clarification (none / 0)

Hopefully enough for Clinton to go on through June 3rd...the longer she stays in the easier the 2012 NY Senate primary will be!


by Bob Brigham on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 04:24:52 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

Ok, 10 down, she probably needs another 50-100 to completely destroy Barack to the point that elected delegates do not count.

Also how much was she in debt again?  Really I forgot, was it 1-3 million?.

I havent heard that in the context of all this.  

I wonder if they will clip out the tela-thon moment were she asked for money last night.

And you guys think the media is after her?


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by GeorgeP922 on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 04:21:33 PM EST

Now she's just broke (none / 0)

"the Federal Election Commission show Clinton had $10.3 million in debts at the start of the month"

Oh good, now she's just broke, not in debt. Good for her.


by rhetoricus on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 04:31:29 PM EST

Re: Now she's just broke (none / 0)

If thats the conversation coming up and is true here is the test if the MSM is really "against" hillary.

News like this can eliminate any joementum she thinks she got last night.

keep us posted......


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by GeorgeP922 on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 04:34:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Now she's just broke (none / 0)

the MSM won't touch it.


by rhetoricus on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 04:43:10 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

Has anyone inquired how much of the "10M" Hillary can use for primary purposes and how much for the general only?


The choice is simple: A President who voted for the worst of Bush's odius agenda, or one who didn't.
by Liberal Avenger on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 04:40:00 PM EST

Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

she'd best just use it to pay the 10.3 million in debts she had.


by rhetoricus on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 04:43:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

seriously, remember in march they made all that money and half of it couldn't be used in a primary


by theninjagoddess on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 04:43:57 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

Thats another great point,

and for that matter it applies to obama too.

Also everytime I donate I dont recall seeing the option to divert some for the general.


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by GeorgeP922 on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 04:44:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]

HRC Debt ??? (none / 0)

So is there hard information about her debt as of Today?  

Or are we forced to speculate based on FEC info from a week or two ago?


Unable to rec or rate

Read this: http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/5/15/1427 30/254

by GeorgeP922 on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 04:45:57 PM EST

Re: $10 Million (none / 0)

Has anyone inquired as to whether McAwful was hooked up to a lie detector when he made this claim?


The choice is simple: A President who voted for the worst of Bush's odius agenda, or one who didn't.
by Liberal Avenger on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 05:13:38 PM EST

We must Listen to the will of the NY Times (none / 0)

I read their editorial and also Modo gave her usual guidance so today's truth is that it is critical to Democracy that Senator Clinton quit the race before more Democrats vote for her.


by msobel on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 05:45:32 PM EST

Re: We must Listen to the will of the NY Times (none / 0)

LOL @ Modo

It took me a second.

She was also very critical of Gore in 2000, challenging his authenticity, noting his waredrobe changes and his tendency to exaggerate.


by reggie44pride on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 07:24:44 PM EST
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She won't have to worry about debt (none / 0)

If she continues to fight hard, but comes up short, her supporters will bail her out.


by activatedbybush on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 06:14:20 PM EST


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