MyDD :: Cheating in Bucks County??

Cheating in Bucks County??

by owl06, Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 11:38:12 AM EST

BREAKING NEWS It has come to my attention that supporters of Barack Obama may be handing out official Democratic party literature in Bucks County, a suburb of Philadelphia, covered with Obama stickers, and saying that the Democratic Party has endorsed Senator Obama.

I am attempting to obtain direct evidence and will update this blog entry as (and if) the story develops. My source is extremely trustworthy and well-established in Democratic politics. Note that this is a preliminary report and not a definite case of fraud. Usually, I would not run anything with a single source - take it for what it is. I'm making an exception because cheating cannot be tolerated.

Has anyone else heard of other instances of cheating? If so, here is the number of the Clinton legal hotline: 877-472-9460.

Tags: Barack Obama, Fraud, Election 2008 (all tags)

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Re: Cheating in Bucks County?? (1.94 / 18)

Hasn't the democratic party endorsed Hillary Clinton?

by Mostly on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 11:40:03 AM EST

Re: Cheating in Bucks County?? (2.00 / 7)

sory of like richardson endorsed obama. at least, that's what the obama people in the iowa caucuses were telling richardson supporters. richardson did drop out and endorse obama three months later - maybe they were just psychic. you think?

by campskunk on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 11:49:15 AM EST
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Uprated (2.00 / 2)

cuz troll rates are outa control here

by rhetoricus on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 11:53:09 AM EST
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yeah, just a dumb post (2.00 / 1)

without content, but not TR material

by zerosumgame on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 08:53:30 PM EST
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Re: Cheating in Bucks County?? (2.00 / 6)

Whoa why did I just get troll rated for that? After I asked the question I looked it up - the Democratic party of Pennsylvania has endorsed Hillary Clinton.

Alegre and JHL, kindly remove your troll ratings or explain them.

by Mostly on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 12:43:19 PM EST
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Re: Cheating in Bucks County?? (1.20 / 24)

You got troll rated for your snarky comment. And no, I will not kindly or otherwise remove it. I am sick and tired of all the rabid BO supporters on this site and their inflammatory, offensive rhetoric. Of course I am not surprised by it, since your candidate sets the example.

Take it to the Convention! Hillary '08"

by JHL on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 12:51:24 PM EST
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Re: Cheating in Bucks County?? (1.33 / 6)

Just returning the favor. Happy Primary Day.

This administration is not sinking. This administration is soaring! If anything, they are rearranging the deck chairs on the Hindenburg!

by venavena on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 01:15:23 PM EST
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Re: Cheating in Bucks County?? (2.00 / 1)

Honestly JHL, the only thing missing from your comment was "don't make me turn this board around..."

Lighten up would you?

Like the nominee, don't like the nominee... Our nominee is still better than John McCain...

by JenKinFLA on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 05:54:22 PM EST
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Re: Cheating in Bucks County?? (none / 0)

Your reply is really funny.
Probably some nervous people around here !!!

Quoting a slick operator.

"Chill out"

by hebi on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 03:17:07 PM EST
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Re: Cheating in Bucks County?? (2.00 / 3)

I'm a Clinton supporter but I am assuming your comment was just a question. Even though I know we have disagreed in other diaries (and saw some snarkiness at times) I didn't see any snarkiness here, and I don't TR for that so I uprated you in this instance.

by cjbardy on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 03:18:12 PM EST
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Re: Cheating in Bucks County?? (2.00 / 3)

Appreciate it.

Saw the chairman of the PA Democratic party on TV the other night where he was referring to the Clinton campaign as "we". Hence the question.

by Mostly on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 04:03:18 PM EST
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Re: Cheating in Bucks County?? (2.00 / 2)

Friends from Pittsburgh are reporting that in Pittsburgh, Bloomfield and Lawrenceville, people were mailed directions to out-of-the-way "polling places" that don't exist.

by rhetoricus on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 11:46:33 AM EST

PS (2.00 / 2)

It was new voters who got these

by rhetoricus on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 11:47:39 AM EST
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Re: Cheating in Bucks County?? (2.00 / 4)

Call the hotline. Do they have copies of those mailers?

Fight for Democrats in Congress.

by owl06 on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 11:50:05 AM EST
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Yes, done (2.00 / 2)

people who know to call have it cleared up fast, and Obama people are all over it, canvassing areas that seemed the hardest hit by the mailers

by rhetoricus on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 11:51:37 AM EST
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Re: Cheating in Bucks County?? (1.00 / 1)

Ohz noez, the concern trolls are back, and, right on cue, someone is cheating in this election...

NJ Hussein Independent

by NJIndependent on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 11:48:17 AM EST

Voting problems (2.00 / 7)

..whatever their cause, should be reported on, though

by rhetoricus on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 11:50:16 AM EST
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Re: Voting problems (1.85 / 7)

True, but there is a difference between reporting on legitimate problems after a thorough investigation and trolling rumors on election day with no proof to make it seem like a massive cheating operation to steal an election.

NJ Hussein Independent

by NJIndependent on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 11:56:06 AM EST
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Re: Voting problems (2.00 / 4)

Well, I think if someone experiences problems or knows of places experiencing problems they should report it fast so it can be addressed fast.

But I agree about the "cheating" speculation.

by rhetoricus on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 12:02:23 PM EST
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Re: Voting problems (2.00 / 1)

also about the danger of the "cheating" speculation, a Rove specialty is to pull something dirty against his own candidate, then blame it on the opposite campaign to raise outrage on his candidate's behalf.

So we can't assume anything even when something looks dirty.

by rhetoricus on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 12:04:50 PM EST
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Re: Voting problems (1.00 / 0)

I heard Lamont hacked Joe's website and brought it down. Why would you support someone that would do that?

Tony Romo for Secretary of Awesome

by kasjogren on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 06:12:11 PM EST
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Re: Voting problems (none / 0)

Snark, right? My detector broke.

Visit Election Inspection for analysis, polls, and predictions!

by X Stryker on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 01:37:27 PM EST
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Cheating? (2.00 / 2)

There's a difference between cheating and overzealous volunteers who don't understand the rules.

No one with an IQ above 60 is going to think that "The Democratic Party" endorsed Barack Obama.

by Democratic Unity on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 11:55:51 AM EST

Re: Cheating? (2.00 / 1)

The state party endorsed Hillary.

by Mostly on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 12:44:55 PM EST
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Re: Cheating? (none / 0)

I looked really hard for that and didn't find it. Link please?

by ProgressiveDL on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 05:20:50 PM EST
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Re: Cheating? (2.00 / 1)

Mostly, I looked on the Pa Dems official site and there's nothing there about endorsing either candidate. I'm not exactly sure a state party can endorse a candidate, now that I think about it.
Could you provide a link, please?

by skohayes on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:11:22 PM EST
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a simple question (none / 0)

What color are these sample ballots?

by Adam B on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 12:02:09 PM EST

Re: a simple question (1.71 / 7)

nobody said anything about sample ballots, Adam.

is there something you'd like to share with the class?

by campskunk on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 12:19:48 PM EST
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Re: a simple question (2.00 / 1)

It's what I assumed you meant from "official Democratic party literature".

by Adam B on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 12:52:10 PM EST
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Re: Cheating in Bucks County?? (2.00 / 6)

Whoa, serious stuff, hope it's not true...
Keep us posted.

TexasDarlin blog

by TexasDarlin on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 12:07:59 PM EST

Campaign tactics (2.00 / 6)

if this is true, then Obama must be pretty desperate, or his supporters have crossed the line.

by 4justice on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 12:22:18 PM EST

Re: Campaign tactics (2.00 / 0)

I don't understand how people can call Obama desperate when he has an insurmountable lead in pledged delegates.

But, anyway, crummy tctics are going to be used by both sides today. Count on it.

Nothing like a one liner from which someone can judge your entire character.

by motbob on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 12:42:21 PM EST
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Re: Campaign tactics (2.00 / 4)

1. Obama does not have an insurmountable lead.

2. I've heard of countless crummy tactics by Obama's campaign people but haven't heard of any from Hillary's.

by Nobama on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 01:31:24 PM EST
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Re: Campaign tactics (2.00 / 2)

I've heard of countless crummy tactics by Obama's campaign people but haven't heard of any from Hillary's.

I suggest you get out of the bubble then. I've heard stories about supporters from both campaigns.

Lost rate and rec for issuing a '1' to a trollish comment. The troll, not so much.

by map on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 01:38:56 PM EST
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Re: Campaign tactics (2.00 / 1)

Obama doesn't have an insurmountable lead in pledged delegates? That's what he said.

I can't see any halfway realistic scenario that contradicts that. Please enlighten us otherwise.

by Rorgg on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 02:37:26 PM EST
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Re: Campaign tactics (2.00 / 3)

what about the rumor that sheriffs that have endorsed Hillary are threatening people with jail time if they don't vote for Hillary?

Or the rumor that they're passing out Get out of jail free cards to people arrested last night to make sure they vote today?

Seriously, if we're going to peddle stupid rumors as fact, then it's only fair that these rumors, which are out there, get air time!! Seriously!!

by southernman on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 03:30:33 PM EST
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Re: Cheating in Bucks County?? (2.00 / 3)

To find out what's really happening and what's been reported rather than depending on rumors this is a good site:

http://www.electionjournal.org/

They are unbiased and just take in reports from polling places and follow-up to get the facts

It also appears some dubious election materials are being handed out to close to polling places.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/dis cuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address =203x500951

Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving that there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.

by jsfox on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 12:39:12 PM EST

Re: Cheating in Bucks County?? (1.35 / 14)

Could someone post where you report irregularities in pa today? Dirty tricks from Obama's side would be par for the course.

by linfar on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 12:40:56 PM EST

Re: Cheating in Bucks County?? (2.00 / 1)

I heard a rumor that Clinton's people are going through jailhouses where the local sheriffs have endorsed her...with get out of jail free cards given to all in the jails who have yet to have a felony conviction and are registered to vote, then driving them to the polling places.

Hey, as long as we're promoting absurd rumors here...

by southernman on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 03:27:51 PM EST
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Re: Cheating in Bucks County?? (2.00 / 3)

Anonymous posts on a blog are not evidence.

We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.

by politicsmatters on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 01:10:36 PM EST

Re: Cheating in Bucks County?? (2.00 / 1)

Forwarded this post on to the Hillary people

by KyleSIU on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 02:18:08 PM EST

Re: Cheating in Bucks County?? (2.00 / 1)

Thanks, they are already aware. :-)

Fight for Democrats in Congress.

by owl06 on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 02:53:39 PM EST
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hee. hee. (none / 0)

"aware." used in the context of describing the clinton campaign.

priceless.

how's the rearrangement of deck chairs going?

by rabidnation on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 07:39:32 PM EST
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Re: Pie Fight !!! (2.00 / 1)

I haven't seen so many troll ratings since I slept under the bridge.

Chill out dudes and dudettes.

by johnnygunn on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 02:32:33 PM EST

This sounds so much like (1.33 / 6)

some of the cheating that went on in Texas.

Thank you for the heads up and for posting the way to report voter fraud.

by macmcd on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 02:34:50 PM EST

Re: This sounds so much like (1.75 / 4)

There was no cheating in Texas. Just b/c your candidate lost doesn't mean that Obama cheated.

My goodness!! So juvenile!

by southernman on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 03:26:37 PM EST
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I heard a rumor (2.00 / 0)

that Clinton offered money for votes. I heard another rumor that she's offering get out of jail free cards at the local jails and driving them to voting precincts (assuming they haven't had prior felony convictions).

I heard Hillary voters were being intimidated...by Obama's voters showing up to vote.

I love rumor starting....but this is pretty stupid stuff.

by southernman on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 03:25:55 PM EST

Re: Cheating in Bucks County?? (2.00 / 5)

Shouldn't you have actual evidence before making an allegation? Isn't this diary patently ridiculous to anyone else?

Breaking news: Clinton may be Elvis. I'm standing by for verification.

by rfahey22 on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 03:34:24 PM EST

Another PA rumor... (2.00 / 2)

The Amish are protesting over rising gas prices!

Waiting for a morse code or telegram message to substantiate this latest rumor.

by optimusprime on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 04:39:25 PM EST

LOL! (none / 0)