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Expert Predicts Clinton Pa. Win

by pollbuster, Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:09:33 PM EST

An election expert today predicted a Hillary win in tomorrow's election, indicating his belief it can be close. Yes, Barack Obama predicted Monday that Democratic presidential rival Hillary Rodham Clinton would get the critical victory she needs in Tuesday's Pennsylvania primary.http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080421/ap_o n_el_pr/democrats

It appears with this that Obama is throwing in the towel in this primary race. No one now is able to predict how this Obama prediction will affect his campaign workers on the ground, although some observers feel it could demoralize them. One Obama supporter was heard to voice great disappointment regarding Obama's prediction: "Why couldn't he just keep it all to himself, we are out there trying to change voters to us, and he is telling them that we are going to lose." Another said: "How in the world could we convince people about change and hope, when Obama says it's hopeless," continuing, "he won't even give us a chance to change their vote."

When Obama was asked if he will now make prediction's in all the remaing races, he sharply said; "Let's talk issues, and stop all this gotcha politics." He continued: "Ok she got me in this race, I admit it," as tears filled his eyes. Someone volunteered that "maybe that would be good for a few votes."

Meanwhile, the Clinton campaign was overjoyed by the Obama prediction, and a spokesperson was overheard saying: "Now we are waiting for his prediction that we will win the big race this summer in Denver."

Tags: Hillary, Obama, Pa., Predictions, snark (all tags)

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Fiction! (none / 0)

why are you writing fiction and passing it off as fact?? Obama never said," When Obama was asked if he will now make prediction's in all the remaing races, he sharply said; "Let's talk issues, and stop all this gotcha politics." He continued: "Ok she got me in this race, I admit it," as tears filled his eyes." Someone volunteered that "maybe that would be good for a few votes."

"I am standing with Barack Obama to say, `Yes, we can!'" Hillary Clinton 6/7/08

by feliks on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:15:51 PM EST

Re: Fiction! (none / 0)

How do you know everything he said, or didn't say today? Do you have his house bugged or something?

The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson

by pollbuster on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:22:01 PM EST
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Re: Fiction! (none / 0)

Because we speak every night on the phone

"I am standing with Barack Obama to say, `Yes, we can!'" Hillary Clinton 6/7/08

by feliks on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:29:27 PM EST
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Re: Fiction! (none / 0)

Then I guess you'll have to wait for the evening to find out what he said today.

The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson

by pollbuster on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:25:49 PM EST
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Re: Fiction! (none / 0)

actually the kool aid serves a purpose.....it makes accolytes able to beam directly into the divine ones thoughts

"I am standing with Barack Obama to say, `Yes, we can!'" Hillary Clinton 6/7/08

by feliks on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 04:12:11 PM EST
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Re: Fiction! (none / 0)

What exactly are accolytes?

The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson

by pollbuster on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 04:20:34 PM EST
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Re: Fiction! (none / 0)

I Misspelled:
ac·o·lyte (āk'ə-līt') Pronunciation Key
n.

1. One who assists the celebrant in the performance of liturgical rites.
2. A devoted follower or attendant.

"I am standing with Barack Obama to say, `Yes, we can!'" Hillary Clinton 6/7/08

by feliks on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 04:40:19 PM EST
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Re: Fiction! (none / 0)

All good cultists submitted to brain implants so we can hear the divine leader speak to us in our dreams.

Proudly joining the legions of people and states that don't matter on May 20th.

by Obama Independent on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:40:25 PM EST
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Re: Fiction! (none / 0)

Hey!

Keep it quiet!

You know that the divine leader has told us not to speak of the implants in mixed company.

It makes people more suspicious and difficult to implant.

by emptythreatsfarm on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:48:39 PM EST
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Re: Fiction! (none / 0)

Did I say implants? I meant brain plants. Yes that's right, Obama campaign geneticists have invented a new type of plant. It's going to be the next chia pet! Get yours today!

Proudly joining the legions of people and states that don't matter on May 20th.

by Obama Independent on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:17:21 PM EST
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Re: Fiction! (none / 0)

Gee, then I'm sorry you had to hear him say he is going to get beat.

The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson

by pollbuster on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:28:09 PM EST
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Re: Expert Predicts Clinton Pa. Win (none / 0)

You forgot to mention that Obama said he thought it could be close.

by mecarr on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:16:19 PM EST

Re: Expert Predicts Clinton Pa. Win (none / 0)

I thought you would read the link. oh wait, you did.

The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson

by pollbuster on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:22:50 PM EST
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Re: Expert Predicts Clinton Pa. Win (none / 0)

Sorry, dude, you can't do satire or snark. Practice up, you might do better.

Serious question- Is This Snark?

by ragekage on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:16:45 PM EST

Re: Expert Predicts Clinton Pa. Win (none / 0)

I'll rely on hope, but thanks anyway.

The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson

by pollbuster on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:29:29 PM EST
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Re: Expert Predicts Clinton Pa. Win (none / 0)

So did Huckabee.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=n ewsarchive&sid=a2IYkr2D8ZGk

by IowaMike on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:36:49 PM EST
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Re: Expert Predicts Clinton Pa. Win (none / 0)

And you should focus on ending your noticable confusion.

The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson

by pollbuster on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 10:01:55 PM EST
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Why are you making up quotes and stories? (none / 0)

The link you provide includes no such quotes from Obama or from anyone working or volunteering for his campaign.

Are you a fiction writer by trade?

by Bob Johnson on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:17:29 PM EST

Re: Why are you making up quotes and stories? (none / 0)

Come on Bob, I wrote this for you, I,so, thought you would find it humorous.

The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson

by pollbuster on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:23:59 PM EST
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Re: Expert Predicts Clinton Pa. Win (none / 0)

Is this what passes for "reality" in your mind?

by rfahey22 on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:18:41 PM EST

Unfortunately, it wont be enough: (2.00 / 1)

A month ago everyone admitted, and believed she would get, a 20%+ win in Penn to even have a chance. That plus staying close in IN, OR, NC, and blow outs in the remaining states would give her a chance of winning the popular vote, which is the one compelling argument she has to make with the SD's

Link: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=n ewsarchive&sid=a2IYkr2D8ZGk

If she doesn't get that 20% + win, she can't win. FL and MI won't make a difference. Math is math.

by IowaMike on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:19:46 PM EST

Re: Unfortunately, it wont be enough: (none / 0)

Yeah, keep telling yourself that. i'm sure if you say it enough, you might even believe it.

The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson

by pollbuster on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:25:22 PM EST
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Opinions are opinions... (none / 0)

facts are facts
and math is math.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=n ewsarchive&sid=a2IYkr2D8ZGk

That's the latest source.

by IowaMike on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:29:50 PM EST
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Re: Expert Predicts Clinton Pa. Win (none / 0)

Lighten up?

by mady on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:21:20 PM EST

Re: Expert Predicts Clinton Pa. Win (none / 0)

Obama's interal polling has been spot on, he is being honest, he and everyone else knows Senator Clinton is going to win PA?

So, if you want to post about CHOWDER HEAD prognastication, look to your candidate, Pollbuster?

Senator Clinton is on record stating the primary "would be over on SuperTuesday."

She and those merry band of dunces she hired (Mark Penn? Sheesh, that alone should have been a clue) spent like drunken sailors, because it was all over but the shouting?

Obama's camp expects him to lose in Penn, they also expect him to make up all the lost delegates from that loss in NC, and to Win in Indiana, adding MORE to their insurmountable pledge delegate lead?

""Now we are waiting for his prediction that we will win the big race this summer in Denver."

Maybe they are talking about a 5K fun run, cause the only way Clinton wins in Denver is tear the party assunder, and assure President McCain is appointing the next 2 USSC justices.

On Nov 4th, Barack Obama officially ends the Southern Strategy....

by WashStateBlue on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:22:38 PM EST

Some think that's the plan (none / 0)

"the only way Clinton wins in Denver is tear the party assunder, and assure President McCain"

..since then she could run in 2012. What do you think, would the party feel like backing her again if she worked like hell to wreck the Obama train post-nomination?

by rhetoricus on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:20:35 PM EST
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Re: Expert Predicts Clinton Pa. Win (2.00 / 1)

Some good points, but remember without party unity, no one goes any place, but home.

The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson

by pollbuster on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:27:25 PM EST

Smooch. (none / 0)

Sorry if that was too forward.

by rhetoricus on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:21:09 PM EST
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Re: Smooch. (none / 0)

No need to apologize, I recognize it's your opinion, and you know what they say, everyone has them.

The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson

by pollbuster on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:32:30 PM EST
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Re: Smooch. (2.00 / 1)

(I was apologizing for the forwardness of saying "smooch." I was thanking you for talking up ultimate party unity.. not sure that was clear. ;)

by rhetoricus on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:44:43 PM EST
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Re: Smooch. (none / 0)

Ultimately we will need party unity. We can fight now, and we can argue, and we can throw insults back and forth, but once we have a nominee, we will have to put all that aside. I, for one, am not ready to surrender this nation to 4 more years of GOP rule. What is ultimately important is, ending this war, that should have never started, getting people health insurance, turning our economy around, and winning back our country. Any democrats that don't recognize this, shouldn't be calling themselves democrats

The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson

by pollbuster on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 03:04:36 PM EST
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Re: Smooch. (2.00 / 1)

From your keyboard to God's.. eyes? ears?

Amen.

by rhetoricus on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 03:23:37 PM EST
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What is this? Fiction or something? (none / 0)

My candidate lost fair and square. So did yours. Get over it and let's kick McSame's ass!

by RLMcCauley on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:52:31 PM EST

Re: What is this? Fiction or something? (none / 0)

Part truth, part fiction, kind of like the Obama campaign.

The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson

by pollbuster on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:33:31 PM EST
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Re: What is this? Fiction or something? (none / 0)

Like Tuzla.

My candidate lost fair and square. So did yours. Get over it and let's kick McSame's ass!

by RLMcCauley on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:37:37 PM EST
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Re: What is this? Fiction or something? (none / 0)

"Like Tuzla."

..except for the "part truth" part.

by rhetoricus on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:45:58 PM EST
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Re: What is this? Fiction or something? (none / 0)

I knew that was coming the second I hit the send button.

The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson

by pollbuster on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 03:05:42 PM EST
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I heart the snark (none / 0)

It is one of the most mature way of disagreeing, compared to projection anyways.

Student Guy=JoeMentum. No really Student Guy=JoeMentum, after all JoeMentum was an embarrassment so is Student Guy. This sig is FAIL!!

by Student Guy on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:53:45 PM EST

I like the (2.00 / 1)

"as tears filled his eyes" part. Funny diary.

by MikeyB on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 01:57:25 PM EST

Hillary will win by 15-20% (none / 0)

PA's polls have been for the most part consistent.

by rhetoricus on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:17:41 PM EST

Re: Expert Predicts Clinton Pa. Win (none / 0)

In all honesty, I think if Obama admits he is going to lose, look for the loss to be substantial. The close part will be in delegates, because it's difficult to break away in that area due to the proportional set up in Pa.

The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson

by pollbuster on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:37:39 PM EST

Re: Expert Predicts Clinton Pa. Win (none / 0)

It's all about the delegates.

"As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where-where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border."

by fugazi on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:54:56 PM EST
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Re: Expert Predicts Clinton Pa. Win (none / 0)

I think Obama just said that too.

The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson

by pollbuster on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 03:07:51 PM EST
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Re: Expert Predicts Clinton Pa. Win (none / 0)

Yes, the usual buzzword response. I wonder if Pavlov's dog could have been trained to do it too.

The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson

by pollbuster on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 10:06:04 PM EST
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Re: Expert Predicts Clinton Pa. Win (none / 0)

Facts are stubborn things.

"As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where-where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border."

by fugazi on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 12:33:12 AM EST
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Re: Expert Predicts Clinton Pa. Win (none / 0)

So are some people

The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson

by pollbuster on Tue Apr 22, 2008 at 08:07:00 AM EST
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Re: Expert Predicts Clinton Pa. Win (none / 0)

Amen to that.

"As Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where-where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border."

by fugazi on Wed Apr 23, 2008 at 08:35:53 AM EST
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PA (none / 0)

Expert predicts sun will rise in the East.

by RandyMI on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 02:51:36 PM EST

Re: PA (none / 0)

Leading polls say there is a 50% chance of that, it either will or it won't.

The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson

by pollbuster on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 03:07:10 PM EST
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Re: Expert Predicts Clinton Pa. Win (none / 0)

These quotes seem a little..

.. are they real?

by bobbank on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 03:07:34 PM EST

Re: Expert Predicts Clinton Pa. Win (none / 0)

Does anyone really know what's real?

The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson

by pollbuster on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 03:09:19 PM EST
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Re: Expert Predicts Clinton Pa. Win (none / 0)

Barack Obama does.

by bobbank on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 03:17:09 PM EST
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Re: Expert Predicts Clinton Pa. Win (none / 0)

Well he's not just anyone.

The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson

by pollbuster on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 03:31:42 PM EST
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Re: Expert Predicts Clinton Pa. Win (none / 0)

It's true that He is not.

by bobbank on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 03:45:09 PM EST
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i can predict too (none / 0)

i am not an expert (nobody is; all pollsters makiing mistake after mistake in 2008) but i can predict 57-42 or better for Hillary, based on high percentage of undecided in most polls and assumption that most undecided will go in ratio 2-to-1 or 3-to-1 to Hillary. Consider this C49-O39 poll:
http://www.southernpoliticalreport.com/s torylink_421_351.aspx
It has 12% of undecided; it they split 3-to-1 for Hillary she can get about C57-O42 as a final result tomorrow evening.

Welcome to a Landslide without white Working class, Latinos, Women, Seniors and holding-on sweeties

by engels on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 03:22:33 PM EST

Re: i can predict too (none / 0)

Nicely done.

The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson

by pollbuster on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 03:32:32 PM EST
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Re: Expert Predicts Clinton Pa. Win (none / 0)

you do yourself a disservice among serious readers on MyDD by posting diaries like this. Based on the misleading title and non-existent content of this diary (you posted something and asked people to read it), which further misleads readers, I won't bother reading any more of your diaries because you can't be taken seriously.

by DrPolitics on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 04:21:40 PM EST

Re: Expert Predicts Clinton Pa. Win (none / 0)

Hey read what you want, but the title is not misleading. He did predict a Hillary win in Pa., and he does qualify, in my view, as a political expert. Read the link. My secomd sentence is taken directly from the Yahoo news article.

If you want to be critical of the rest, perhaps you need to relax and lighten up a bit. Eventually we will all be on the same team. In reality we're all on the same team now, in that we all want to see a democrat win in November. ok, maybe not all, but just about all.

And I don't know about you, but I always found that the practise of self censorship is a very limiting one, but, once again, read what you want--your the doctor.

The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but newspapers. -- Thomas Jefferson

by pollbuster on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 10:17:24 PM EST
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Re: Expert Predicts Clinton Pa. Win (none / 0)

You are correct that he went on a morning radio show and uttered these words, quote: "I'm not predicting a win in Pa." Unquote.

http://news.aol.com/elections/story/_a/o bama-predicts-clinton-win-on-tuesday/200 80421114809990001

Not exactly enlightening words for a the man who wants to bring 'change'

Steven Shaman Publisher Skywatch-Media News

by steve468 on Mon Apr 21, 2008 at 05:39:32 PM EST

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