38 Lobbyists Money Bundling for Obama

Most of us are familiar with the campaign tactic Obama adopted for his presidenitial run.  He has made it a central theme as to counter his lack of experience.  His declaration that he doesn't accept money from "registered" Lobbyists or PACS.   Trying to infer being in Washington for only a couple years means he hasn't been tainted by what he views as a natural occurence if you're in DC for a longer period of time.  And apparently his other view, if you take money from Lobbyists, you will automatically have to curry your vote to their favor.  Thankfully all of our elected officials don't operate that way.

WASHINGTON — Barack Obama often boasts he is "the only candidate who isn't taking a dime from Washington lobbyists," yet his fundraising team includes 38 members of law firms that were paid $138 million last year to lobby the federal government, records show.

And of course, Obama did not practice this principle in of his other campaigns, the ones he ran for the state of Illinois, or the current seat he holds as a US Senator.  But there does seem to be some continuity here folks.  He IS accepting money from Lobbyists individually AND, he has 38 Lobbyists raising a pledged $3.5 million EACH for his current Presidential Campaign.

Those lawyers, including 10 former federal lobbyists, have pledged to raise at least $3.5 million for the Illinois senator's presidential race. Employees of their firms have given Obama's campaign $2.26 million, a USA TODAY analysis of campaign finance data shows.

Thirty-one of the 38 are law firm partners, who typically receive a share of their firm's lobbying fees. At least six of them have some managerial authority over lobbyists.

Obama recently decided to stretch the truth a bit more when he dived in to his latest campaign rhetoric that he "doesn't accept money from Oil companies".  Trying to infer, again, that must mean his vote can't be swayed over to those Interests.  

But in reality,

It's accurate that Obama doesn't take money from oil companies; neither do his opponents, because corporate contributions are illegal. But Obama, like Clinton and John McCain, has accepted donations from oil and gas company employees — $222,309 in Obama's case from donors from Exxon, Shell, Chevron and others, according to campaign-finance data. Two oil company CEOs have pledged to raise at least $50,000 each as part of Obama's fundraising team.

And as the Director of Campaign Finance Institute Michael Malbin said, "It makes no difference whether the person is a registered lobbyist or the partner of a registered lobbyist, if the person is raising money to get access or curry favor"

Maybe that is what Obama is trying to tell us, that if he takes money from any of these special intrests, he cannot resist the need to vote for their interests over the interests of the people.

Thankfully Hillary Clinton knows the people's interests come first.  And regardless that she can accept contributions from employees who work in a particular trade, her vote doesn't get bought.

Energy Policy Act of 2005

NAYs ---26
Biden (D-DE)
Boxer (D-CA)
Carper (D-DE)
Chafee (R-RI)
Clinton (D-NY)
Corzine (D-NJ)
Dodd (D-CT)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)    Gregg (R-NH)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Martinez (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)    Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Sununu (R-NH)
Wyden (D-OR)

Bankruptcy Amendment
To limit the amount of interest that can be charged on any extension of credit to 30 percent.

YEAs ---24

Akaka (D-HI)
Bayh (D-IN)
Boxer (D-CA)
Byrd (D-WV)
Clinton (D-NY)
Conrad (D-ND)
Corzine (D-NJ)
Dayton (D-MN)    Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Levin (D-MI)    Lieberman (D-CT)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murray (D-WA)
Pryor (D-AR)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Schumer (D-NY)
Stabenow (D-MI)



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lobbyists give money to gain accesss (2.00 / 2)

to a campaign and candidate.  If they are already part of the campaign they do not need to buy access to Obama, however they are trying to make sure the guy they already have access to is in the white house.
it is the same old politics all over again.  Nothing new with Obama.
For Obama it now becomes: Faith, hope and CHANGE! And the greatest of these is Change!
by TeresaInPa on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 02:11:24 PM EST

Except he's better then McCain and Clinton (2.00 / 1)

Who are happy to take Federal lobbyists money and in the case of McCain have them work on his campaign.

You can play the six degrees of seperation, purity game all you want, but the other candidates aren't even trying to raise the bar and that alone is good enough to get Obama my support.


by DSloth on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 02:45:48 PM EST
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By b.s.ing you? (none / 0)

Wow- thanks for the confirm though.


by linc on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 03:42:37 PM EST
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Re: lobbyists give money to gain accesss (none / 0)

This is just crap. Anytime you make a campaign donation they ask you to volunteer information on your job and industry you work in. Just because a guy who works the parking garage at an exxon building gave a donation to Obama doesn't mean he's accepting dollars from the oil companies. I'm so sick of this lobbiest/rezko/misc. garbage that keeps flying not out of the McCain camp, but the Clinton camp! If you honestly think Clinton is doing more to cut down on scrupulouus donors show a little proof.

Here's what happens when registered lobbyists try to donate to Obama


by Djo on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 06:59:28 PM EST
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Re: 38 Lobbyists Money Bundling for Obama (2.00 / 5)

Because you work for a law firm that has a lobbyist branch doesn't make you a lobbyist.

The fact remains:  Obama has taken zero dollars from federally registered lobbyists.


by bawbie on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 02:11:42 PM EST

Wow- what a defense (2.00 / 1)

absolutes in an obviously cloudy situation. Me thinks regular folks won't be so blind to the contradiction and nuanced pandering.
by linc on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 02:17:13 PM EST
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Re: Wow- what a defense (2.00 / 1)

The facts are the facts.  That means something to most people in the Democratic party.

You can argue against the facts all you want, but that just makes you act like a Republican.  Which, coincidentally fits right in with the current line of attacks by the Clinton camp.


by bawbie on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 02:23:03 PM EST
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Re: Wow- what a defense (2.00 / 3)

So you agree that any partner at a law firm that happens to have a lobbying wing is a lobbyist?  A whole bunch of the litigation partners I work with will be surprised to hear than...


by HSTruman on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 02:28:44 PM EST
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Re: Wow- what a defense (2.00 / 5)

No kidding.  I am a litigator at a large firm in D.C.  500-plus attorneys.  I don't lobby and am not in the lobbying group here.  Hell, I don't even know all of the partners that are.

I gave Obama the max, $2300.  Just because I happen to be employed here doesn't mean my contribution is from a "lobbyist".

That's such a horseshit argument, diarist.    


by LarsThorwald on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 02:31:19 PM EST
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"because you work for a law firm"????? (2.00 / 1)

...you did notice the article, right?

"Yet his fundraising team includes 38 members of law firms that were paid $138 million last year to lobby the federal government,

Thirty-one of the 38 are law firm partners, who typically receive a share of their firm's lobbying fees. At least six of them have some managerial authority over lobbyists."


by LindaSFNM on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 02:21:34 PM EST
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Your "Logic" (2.00 / 5)

I'm a lawyer and work at a firm that has a lobbying wing, as does essentially EVERY firm with an office in DC.  I don't do that kind of work and neither do any of the partners who, like me, are litigators.  By your standards, each of the partners that I work with qualifies as a lobbyist.  That is beyond silly.  


by HSTruman on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 02:26:45 PM EST
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Re: "because you work for a law firm" (2.00 / 3)

Yes I read the article.

And as others have attested here, my comment is completely true.

Obama has taken NO MONEY from federal lobbyists, Hillary has taken a boat load.


by bawbie on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 02:36:15 PM EST
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Re: 38 Lobbyists Money Bundling for Obama (none / 0)

This is technially true, but also irrelevant. If you promised your significant other that you would  not  "go out to Drink beer saturday night with my frieds", yo may be techinally keeping that promise if you wait until 12:01 Sunday morning and drink tequila with your casual work acquaintances,but you certainly aren't abiding by the spirit of your promise, no pun intended.


by Mayor McCheese on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 02:46:31 PM EST
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Re: 38 Lobbyists Money Bundling for Obama (2.00 / 2)

I don't see that as an apt analogy in any way.

His promise is incontrovertibly true:  He has received zero dollars from federally registered lobbyists.

It seems like the better analogy is that he said he would "not go out to drink beer with my friend Bob", but instead went out and drank ginger ale with Bob's brother.  

This is just another desperate attempt by the Clinton camp to smear Obama with a guilt by association attack.  He didn't take money from lobbyists, but he did take money from people who work for the same company as lobbyists!!!  Oh, the tragedy!!!!!


by bawbie on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 02:53:42 PM EST
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Re: 38 Lobbyists Money Bundling for Obama (none / 0)

It's true literally, of course. But it accepting money from some of these people clearly violates the spirit. several of these people have manegerial authority over lobbyists and profit from their activities. Being a partner in a law firm isn't merely "Working for the same company." It's literally owning an interest in all of that companies interests. Personally, I have have no trouble at all with candidates who taking lobbying money per se. It's what lobbyists they take it from and whether the allow it to cloud their better judgment. If it were so bad, why did Obama just adopt the pratice for this  run at the WH?


by Mayor McCheese on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 03:04:26 PM EST
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Re: 38 Lobbyists Money Bundling for Obama (2.00 / 2)

So if some lobbyist owns shares of GE and I own shares of GE then I would be a lobbyist too?

You don't understand what you are talking about.  In big law firms a typical partner has a minuscule ownership share in the firm.  


Consider that everything which happens, happens justly, and if thou observest carefully, thou wilt find it to be so. -Marcus Aurelius
by Blue Neponset on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 03:09:41 PM EST
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Re: 38 Lobbyists Money Bundling for Obama (none / 0)

Um No. I am  not claiming these people are lobbyists. I am claiming that a number of these people benefit quite directly from these "evil" (at least they became evil when Obama decided to run for president" lobbyists, including, as the article noted, six people with managerial authority over them.

That said, the diary title should be changed, because it is misleading at best.


by Mayor McCheese on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 03:18:15 PM EST
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Re: 38 Lobbyists Money Bundling for Obama (none / 0)

Being a partner and managing lobbyists isn't merely "working for a lawfirm." It's like saying Ray Kroc worked at McDonald's.


by Mayor McCheese on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 03:09:20 PM EST
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That is wicked stupid (2.00 / 1)

Have you ever seen a K-1 from a partner in a big regional law firm?  


Consider that everything which happens, happens justly, and if thou observest carefully, thou wilt find it to be so. -Marcus Aurelius
by Blue Neponset on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 03:10:43 PM EST
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Re: That is wicked stupid (2.00 / 1)

I've seen a few. A share in a partnership is not a  small matter. My firm has just over 100 partners. The share is so tiny that people who make very nice six figure incomes have to borrow money from the firm to buy into it.
Buy a clue.
by Mayor McCheese on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 03:15:35 PM EST
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Re: That is wicked stupid (2.00 / 1)

1/100 is one percent Mr. Law Talking Dude.  Do you still want to claim a one percent ownership percentage in a law firms means you have the same amount of influence Ray Kroc had over McDonalds?  


Consider that everything which happens, happens justly, and if thou observest carefully, thou wilt find it to be so. -Marcus Aurelius
by Blue Neponset on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 03:29:51 PM EST
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Re: Bundling for Obama (none / 0)


"It makes no difference whether the person is a registered lobbyist or the partner of a registered lobbyist, if the person is raising money to get access or curry favor," said Michael Malbin, director of the Campaign Finance Institute, a non-partisan think tank.

(from above USA Today report)


by moevaughn on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 05:06:42 PM EST
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Re: Bundling for Obama (none / 0)

If raising money for a candidate is wrong, then why not criticize all "bundlers" for all candidates, why call out these 38?

Also, is there any evidence of favors curried or access gained?


by bawbie on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 06:33:55 PM EST
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Re: 38 Lobbyists Money Bundling for Obama (2.00 / 1)

This has been refuted elsewhere, but I'm curious - was there an email blast about this or something?  Because there have been a few diaries about this today.


by Mostly on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 02:17:08 PM EST

refuted? (none / 0)

please tell me how that is exactly?
by linc on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 02:18:13 PM EST
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Re: refuted? (2.00 / 2)

They're not lobbyists and they aren't money bundling.

The rest is correct though.


by Mostly on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 03:16:53 PM EST
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I read the article (none / 0)

looks to me like they are bundling money and that they work for firms that do lobby.  You know, a great deal of firms that lobby at the federal level are law firms, you know that right?


I can't wait to see Clinton take him to task for this.
by linc on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 03:40:18 PM EST
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Re: 38 Lobbyists Money Bundling for Obama (none / 0)

Really, how can you refute the facts?  And this is hot on the press as a followup today, as the link shows.


by LindaSFNM on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 02:22:32 PM EST
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Re: 38 Lobbyists Money Bundling for Obama (2.00 / 2)

You really need to remove the blatant lie from the title of your diary.

These 38 people are NOT lobbyists, as explicitly stated in the article you quote.


by bawbie on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 02:42:20 PM EST
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Re: Bundling for Obama (none / 0)

These 38 fundraisers for Barack Obama's presidential campaign work for law firms that have lobbying operations in Washington, D.C. The dollar figure reflects the minimum amount each has pledged to raise for the campaign.

BUNDLER
 MIN. PLEDGE LOCATION FIRM

Scott Harris  $200,000 DC Harris, Wiltshire and Grannis

Allan J. Katz
 $200,000 FL  Akerman Senterfitt

Michael Lawson  $200,000 CA Skadden, Arps

John Levi  $200,000 IL Sidley Austin

Karol Mason  $200,000 GA  Alston & Bird

Thomas J. Perrelli  $200,000 VA Jenner & Block

Thomas A. Reed  $200,000 VA Kirkpatrick & Lockhart Preston Gates Ellis

Christina Tchen  $200,000 IL Skadden, Arps

Tony West  $200,000 CA Morrison & Foerster

Mark L. Alderman  $100,000 PA Wolf, Block, Schorr and Solis-Cohen

Timothy M. Broas  $100,000 MD Winston & Strawn

Peter Bynoe  $100,000 IL  DLA Piper

Gregory B. Craig  $100,000 DC Williams & Connolly

Norman Eisen  $100,000 DC Zuckerman Spaeder

Nicole Lamb-Hale  $100,000 MI  Foley & Lardner

Andrew Schapiro  $100,000 NY Mayer Brown

Charles C. Adams Jr.  $50,000 Switzerland Hogan & Hartson

David Burd  $50,000 DC Arnold & Porter

Tom Cole  $50,000 IL Sidley Austin

Michael H. Dardzinski  $50,000 China Reed Smith

Howard W. Gutman  $50,000 MD Williams & Connolly

Jeff Horwitz  $50,000 NY Proskauer Rose  

David C. Jacobson  $50,000 IL Sonnenschein Nath & Rosenthal

Hrishi Karthikeyan  $50,000 DC  Covington & Burling

Ronald Kirk  $50,000 TX Vinson & Elkins

William T. Lake  $50,000 DC WilmerHale

Edward Lazarus  $50,000 CA  Akin Gump

Jack Levin  $50,000 IL Kirkland & Ellis

Kenneth G. Lore  $50,000 DC  Bingham McCutchen

Charles B. Ortner  $50,000 NY Proskauer Rose

Susan Pravda  $50,000 MA  Foley & Lardner

Paul N. Roth  $50,000 NY Schulte Roth & Zabel

John Schmidt  $50,000 IL Mayer Brown

Robert M. Sussman*  $50,000 DC Latham & Watkins

Kathryn Thomson  $50,000 VA Sidley Austin

Barry B. White  $50,000 MA  Foley Hoag

Steven M. Zager $50,000 TX Akin Gump

Robert S. Litt  n/a MD Arnold & Porter

* Robert M. Sussman retired as a partner on December 31, 2007.  
Source: Obama for America, Center for Responsive Politics, Public Citizen


by moevaughn on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 05:09:47 PM EST
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Re: 38 Lobbyists Money Bundling for Obama (2.00 / 1)

Right but I'm assuming you guys don't read every newspaper cover-to-cover.  Was it an email from the Clinton campaign?

I'm just curious.  There's nothing wrong with it if it was.


by Mostly on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 03:08:31 PM EST
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Re: 38 Lobbyists Money Bundling for Obama (2.00 / 4)

I work for a law firm, and it probably does some sort of lobbyist work in one of its offices.  I also donated to Obama - that doesn't mean I did it to further the firm's "special interests," whatever those may be.

Just count the number of dubious connections the author of the USA Today piece tries to make, and you'll see that it doesn't really say all that much.


by rfahey22 on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 02:17:53 PM EST

Re: 38 Lobbyists Money Bundling for Obama (none / 0)

Are you a partner in said law firm or a mailroom clerk? Do you supervise lobbyists and share in their profits?


by Mayor McCheese on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 03:05:28 PM EST
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Re: 38 Lobbyists Money Bundling for Obama (none / 0)

Neither.  And as an aside, typically partners share in the profits of the entire firm, so saying that they share in lobbying profits again doesn't mean all that much.    


by rfahey22 on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 03:37:58 PM EST
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Your diary is a lie. (1.75 / 4)

38 lobbyists are bundling for Obama? According to your sources, 0 out of the 38 are lobbyists. 10 are FORMER lobbyists (yes, the problem with lobbyists is what they are doing at that time, they are still real people), and the rest work for law firms that lobby.

But none of them are lobbyists. So saying 38 lobbyists is a lie.


by BlueGAinDC on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 02:22:16 PM EST

Re: 38 Lobbyists Money Bundling (none / 0)

Well the energy bill vote is not really the topic to attack on here as Obama being in the Lobbyists pockets - it was more of a constituent vote.

But, I wish this weren't true.  Obama does not need money from these people (Clinton does to keep up)... but many, who I know, are just people who work in these super-firms a legal aids etc.  People who would likely donate to Obama regardless if they worked for a law firm or not.

And, we know who his bundlers are  and their totals because he tells us.  Which, is an improvement on other candidates.


Bring Back MyDD - Just say No to Rec'ing Candidate Diaries.
by CardBoard on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 02:24:48 PM EST

Re: 38 Lobbyists Money Bundling for Obama (2.00 / 1)

Who was the one that said, "Lobbyists represent real people"?


Voting for John McCain is not God bless America.
by SFValues on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 02:26:28 PM EST

Re: 38 Lobbyists Money Bundling for Obama (none / 0)

Nobody that I know of. HRC did say that a lot of them represnt real Americans, which is true.


by Mayor McCheese on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 02:47:48 PM EST
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Re: 38 Lobbyists Money Bundling for Obama (none / 0)

As opposed to the super-secret lobbyists that represent imaginary Americans?

Okay, so there are lobbyists that, granted, represent "good" issues. But, Senator Clinton does not discriminate between lobbyists when she takes their money and that's the problem.


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by lizardbox on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 03:16:57 PM EST
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Re: 38 Lobbyists Money Bundling for Obama (2.00 / 3)

I know you're trying to make yourself feel better about your candidate taking money from lobbyists, because "lobbyists represent real people"... But, the fact remains, Obama does not take money from lobbyists. He actually sends them their money back if they do send him any.

Check this out


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by lizardbox on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 02:33:52 PM EST

Re: Bundling for Obama (none / 0)


"It makes no difference whether the person is a registered lobbyist or the partner of a registered lobbyist, if the person is raising money to get access or curry favor," said Michael Malbin, director of the Campaign Finance Institute, a non-partisan think tank.

(from above USA Today report)


by moevaughn on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 05:12:19 PM EST
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Re: 38 Lobbyists Money Bundling for Obama (none / 0)

He rejected the Bankruptcy amendment because 30% is too high.


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by lizardbox on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 02:38:38 PM EST

Guilt by association (none / 0)

Not only do you guys try to paint the Senator with guilt by association, now it's the people that help raise money. I wonder what will be next for this particular brush...


Proudly joining the legions of people and states that don't matter on May 20th.
by Obama Independent on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 02:43:00 PM EST

Re: 38 Lobbyists Money Bundling for Obama (none / 0)

All this negative stuff and Obama still manages to get 3 new SD endorsements today...


Toot, thank you for raising such a terrific person...You done good and we will have you in our hearts.
by hootie4170 on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 02:50:11 PM EST

That Bankruptcy Bill (none / 0)

Ummmm... looking out for the people? Hillary Clinton voted for the Bankruptcy Bill or have you forgotten that convenient fact?

Why yes, I do believe you have.


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by LtWorf on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 03:00:07 PM EST

Crazy Talk (none / 0)

It is scary the lengths some people will go to make Obama look bad.


Consider that everything which happens, happens justly, and if thou observest carefully, thou wilt find it to be so. -Marcus Aurelius
by Blue Neponset on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 03:01:55 PM EST

Re: 38 Lobbyists Money Bundling for Obama (none / 0)

Bitter Americans, angry that their jobs are gone, concerned that their guns might be taken away, really don't give a rat's ass about this issue. Only inside the beltway and elite wanna-be's  do.


by IowaMike on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 03:07:33 PM EST

Talk about bitter (none / 0)

Those lawyers, including 10 former federal lobbyists

Bitter Linda needs to look up the meaning of "former."


Hillary: "Her dishonesty is actually honest." -- yellowdem1129
by Kobi on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 03:08:28 PM EST

Re: 38 Lobbyists Money Bundling for Obama (none / 0)

It's a bad news day for Hillary, hence, all the anti-Obama diaries. The kitchen sink bounced back and hit them in the jaw, so now they try and anything they can get their hands on.


by venician on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 03:19:53 PM EST

Re: 38 Lobbyists Money Bundling for Obama (none / 0)

when will you Clinton supporters realize that lying and twisting the facts just makes you look silly  Obama is not perfect I get it but come on do you really think this proves he takes money from lobbyist or special interest groups you are fighting a losing battle move on


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by wellinformed on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 03:34:25 PM EST

Re: 38 Lobbyists Money Bundling for Obama (none / 0)

Linda, why are you bashing obama all the time?
I don't understand it.
If he is the nominee what are you going to do? Vote for McCain, I have to say I am very dissapointed in you.
by kareng on Wed Apr 16, 2008 at 04:46:12 PM EST


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