In response to the so-called Rezko scandal

There has been buzz claiming that the Rezko "scandal" will be Obama's undoing.

For those who don't know, Obama purchased a house for $1.65M, which was, in his words, "a stretch." The home was half of a property that was being subdivided with the stipulation that both halves close on the same day; however Obama was financially unable to purchase the adjoining property. He had told his friends the Rezkos about his interest in the home; Rita Rezko purchased the additional (vacant) property for $625,000. Obama purchased some (a 10' strip) of this land from Rezko for $104,500; Rezko then sold the property for a net profit of $40,000.

The implication is that Rezko was doing Obama a favor in return for political favoritism. First of all, there is little evidence of this (the fact that Rezko made a $40,000 profit on the land deal hurts the bribery charge considerably). But more to the point, it is being asserted by Clinton supporters that this transaction will be a political drag on the Obama campaign in the generals, and thus we ought to all demand that he drop out, or something. This is simply untrue.

I assert that the general public has very little interest in financial scandals, particularly ones where there is little evidence of illegality. So, let's compare the public's interest in Rezko to, say, Wright:


("Wright" = blue, "Rezko" = red)

We can compare the search volume for the two terms using Google trends. Clearly (ignoring the fact that there's a steady baseline for Wright as a relatively common name) interest in the Wright scandal far outpaced that in Rezko, yet Obama seems to have weathered it just fine.

Compare this to the Swift boating of Kerry:


("Swift boat" = blue, "Rezko" = red)

Notice that interest in the Swift boat story peaked around 15X higher even though the news reference volume is almost identical! This thing is simply a non-issue, and at this point there is no evidence that new revelations are going to come out to change that.

No, the Rezko affair will have as much impact on Obama as the Hsu connection (yes, I am aware that your candidate is not spotless) will on Clinton - that is to say, none. People know politicians make deals, they think they all do it, and for the most part they're right.

As I keep arguing, if Clinton supporters want to go after my candidate, by all means, go for it - he's got weaknesses, just as she does. But if you're going to practice armchair punditry, at least make some effort to think about the way American politics works.



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Re: In response to the so-called Rezko scandal (2.00 / 1)

So you think Google stats are reliable indicators about how American politics works?


by BostonIndependent on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 06:46:11 PM EST

Re: In response to the so-called Rezko scandal (none / 0)

I posit that search frequency is a reasonable indicator of public interest in a story, yes; certainly a better indicator than, you know, evidence-free assertions. If you'd care to challenge that thesis with some contrary evidence, I'd be happy to hear it.


John McCain
by Mandoliniment on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 06:56:28 PM EST
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You beat me to it. (none / 0)

I was going to point out the irony of this statement


But if you're going to practice armchair punditry, at least make some effort to think about the way American politics works.

Given after selectively using Google search stats. LMAO. I guess in Obamaland American politics works on using Google searches and not something more academic like Lexis Nexis or times it has been mentioned in Television broadcasts.


by LatinoVoter on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 07:26:37 PM EST
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Re: You beat me to it. (none / 0)

Um, yes, I think that search frequency is a better metric that frequency of television mentions!
Note that I do refer to the news article frequency.

But, again, if you'd like to challenge me on it, feel free. With - what's it called? - oh yeah, evidence.

I have made an assertion that the electorate does not react to these types of stories. I have provided evidence. You have provided squat.


John McCain
by Mandoliniment on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 07:44:39 PM EST
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Heh, you don't get it. (none / 0)

Um, yes, I think that search frequency is a better metric that frequency of television mentions!
Note that I do refer to the news article frequency.

You don't get it do you? You've built up this asinine theory in your head that Google search trends are the golden ring and no amount of pointing out how silly it is will help.

Guess what Google is not the only search engine on the internets. How do you factor in the searches of other search engines of the page views of the stories on home pages like Yahoo, AOL, MSN or the use of feed readers or e-mailing the articles?

How many people get their news from the evening news or Sunday morning shows, cable outlets, print media compared to the people who conduct a Google search?

And doesn't your theory seem even more shaky when you consider the fact that Google is a search engine that people use to search for something after they've heard of it. So how did all the people who searched on Google hear about Tony Rezko?

I have made an assertion that the electorate does not react to these types of stories. I have provided evidence. You have provided squat.

You're made an assertion based on your biased views and selectively chosen one metric by which to measure it. You have provided nothing worthy of commentary beyond the odd comment. Come back when you've backed up your biased opinion with substance and then I'll take a crack at it.


by LatinoVoter on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 07:51:34 PM EST
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No, you don't get it. (none / 0)

You aren't even talking about the same thing. You would have a shadow of a point if what I were asserting were something based on a quantified number of page views. But I'm not.

I'm asserting that the frequency of searches is roughly proportional to the public's interest in a subject. The fact that some people get their news elsewhere is frankly irrelevant.

IF you can demonstrate (which you have made to effort to do) that google users do not for a representative sample of the electorate, and show that, say, Yahoo users are all interested in Rezko then you would have a point. But as Google handles almost 60% (58.4% as of Dec 2007 according to comScore - oops, there's a pesky fact again) of all web searches you'll be hard pressed to demonstrate some huge bias there.

None of your so-called critiques of my metric actually critique it - I don't claim that it shows how important something should be, or how true an assertion is; I claim that it gives some sense of an issue's prominence in the public mind. None of your statements refute that in any way.

So - show me a story with clear political fallout on which my metric fails. And show me a financial scandal with no implication of legal wrongdoing that has had a significant political impact. And while you're at it, tell me what my so-called bias is. Your critique, as yet, has consisted of you saying "Nuh-uh!"

Or, alternatively, just keep saying "Rezko's going to be Obama's downfall!" despite the fact that there is zero evidence of that fact.


John McCain
by Mandoliniment on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 01:44:42 PM EST
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Re: No, you don't get it. (none / 0)

"which you have made to effort to do" should read "which you have not made an effort to do"


John McCain
by Mandoliniment on Sun Apr 13, 2008 at 01:46:14 PM EST
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What is the address of the house? (none / 0)

does anybody know?

$1.6 M sounds kind of low for a palatial house in one of Chicago's nicest neighborhoods.

It would be low in many places, thats for sure.. $1.6 M does not go as far as it used to, although it IS a lot of money...

A house of that size in Pacific Heights (San Francisco) -my guess.. would cost at least five times that..

in New York City, a garage space (to park your car) can cost well into six figures...


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by architek on Sat Apr 12, 2008 at 06:49:40 PM EST


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