Pennsylvania Turning Bluer and Bluer

I had forgotten what a 16- or 17-hour travel day can do to one's system. But here's to getting back on the blogging wagon (or is it falling off the blogging wagon?).

As much as I believe there is credence to the argument that a protracted Democratic primary can have a deleterious effect upon the party's ability to win back the White House this fall, particularly as the longer the battle draws out the shorter window of time the eventual nominee will have to unite the base, reports like these remind us that the seemingly never-ending battle to be the Democratic Party's standard bearer this fall has some positive consequences as well.

While a final number may not be available for a few weeks, the Pennsylvania Department of State has released an update on the number of people registered to vote in the April 22 Democratic primary here. And it shows a massive registration effort on the final day of eligibility.

The state now has 4,119,213 registered Democrats. Since March 24, the last day of eligibility for the primary election, the state has received 33,281 new Democratic registrations and 45,977 party changes to the Democratic Party. The secretary of state's office is still accepting new registrations and party switches that were postmarked by the deadline.

State officials said the activity on the final day was intense, and these new numbers likely include large swaths of registrations that were collected by both the Obama and Clinton campaigns and submitted just before the deadline.

Since the first of the year, the state has received 101,499 new Democratic applications and 132,688 switches to the Democratic Party.

By contrast, the Republican Party in Pennsylvania now stands at 3,197,586 people. Only 32,191 citizens have joined the Republican roles and 13,937 have switched to the GOP since January 1.

There are a few things that stand out here. First, the Democrats now have more than a 900,000 advantage in voter registration in Pennsylvania, which tended to be a fairly evenly divided state in the past. In relative terms, nearly 30 percent more Pennsylvanians are registered as Democrats as are registered as Republicans.

Perhaps even more amazing than the overall numbers is the recent trend, with the Democratic rolls growing by a net 188,000 (new Democratic registrants and party switchers minus new Republican registrants and party switchers) just since the beginning of the year. This margin makes up more than 20 percent of the party's overall advantage in the state. What's more, the Democrats have registered 72 percent more voters since the March 24 deadline (presumably applications that came in that day but are only now being processed) than the Republicans have since January 1.

Taken as a whole, these numbers strongly suggest that there are some very real upsides to the ongoing Democratic nomination fight even if there are negatives arising in other areas.



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Re: Pennsylvania Turning Bluer and Bluer (none / 0)

What's their registration deadline to be able to vote by Nov?


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by recusancy on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 12:27:34 AM EST

Re: Pennsylvania Turning Bluer and Bluer (2.00 / 0)

The PA deadline for registration is 30 days prior to the election. So, that's early in the first week of October.


by Quinton on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 02:11:35 AM EST
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If Obama gets PA, he will have a good shot in Nov. (none / 0)

that he will be able to shore up enough whites to carry him to the white house. He is doing well with the bowling, and he should keep on the path. He needs to hunt, fish, ride horses, essentially do the things white working people don't think blacks actually do, because the challenge in electing this guy nation wide is that white working people typically do not relate to a black guy named Barack Hussein Obama, and I say this not as a slur, but as a fact. He will need to do this to win Hillary voters. Speaking of the Clintons, he may need Clinton in the general to campaign for him to help him carry many states like this in November. But he has a shot if he comes within 8 of Hillary.


"there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right in America"-William Jefferson Clinton, forty-second President of the United States
by DiamondJay on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 12:30:08 AM EST

Re: If Obama gets PA (none / 0)

John Kerry went duck hunting in Ohio, and we know how much good it did him.

The best thing Obama - or any candidate - can do is to be him /herself because the voters can sniff out a phony most of the time.  Does the name Mitt Romney ring any bells?


by KTinOhio on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 01:25:31 AM EST
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cmon, that was John Kerry (none / 0)

and better to try than not to try. Obama knows not to peel the skin off fried chicken like Mitt Romney did. Look at Bush. He was NOT himself, and THAT is what got him to the TX governorship, and close enough to steal the White House, and reelected in 2004. So yea it is a great idea.


"there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right in America"-William Jefferson Clinton, forty-second President of the United States
by DiamondJay on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 01:27:37 AM EST
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Re: cmon, that was John Kerry (none / 0)

It's one thing to act like a competent executive when you aren't one; it's another to hunt or fish if you've never done it before (OK, I don't know if Obama has ever done either, but let's say for now that he hasn't) just so white people can see you doing things they don't expect black people to do.  That sort of pandering is ridiculous if not downright offensive.  I don't care what any candidate does in his/her spare time.  I care about the direction he/she will take the country.
   
by KTinOhio on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 01:38:25 AM EST
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thats why we may be in for trouble (none / 0)

I meant how Bush hunts, cuts wood, drives pickup trucks, not suggesting Obama do those things, but he needs to do things ordinary white people do, after all he is half white. The sad fact is, most American voters DO care what politicians do in their spare time, whether they are actually people like them, or ordinary politicians.


"there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right in America"-William Jefferson Clinton, forty-second President of the United States
by DiamondJay on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 01:58:22 AM EST
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Things ordinary white people do? (none / 0)

I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt here, but that really sounds racist.  And by your logic, I wonder how JFK ever got elected, with his Boston Brahmin accent and all...


by KTinOhio on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 02:11:53 AM EST
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Re: Things ordinary white people do? (none / 0)

He must have rode a horse. /snark


by Quinton on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 02:24:35 AM EST
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his name was Lyndon Baines Johnson. (none / 0)

and don't forget that. LBJ is why Kennedy carried the south, and he was a true southerner politician who was able to connect with the blue collar southern and white Democrats. If Kennedy had not carried Texas and the south, nixon woulda won.  He also had a very weak opponent only boosted by Eisenhower's popularity, and by Kennedy's religion. I am not being racist at all, I actually just realized why this dimension to Obama hurt him more than I thought about, tho I do think he can get past it with a good running mate, and some polishing.


"there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right in America"-William Jefferson Clinton, forty-second President of the United States
by DiamondJay on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 02:35:13 AM EST
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Re: If Obama gets PA, he will have a good shot in (2.00 / 1)

I'm saddened to read that you believe Barack Obama has to:

He needs to hunt, fish, ride horses, essentially do the things white working people don't think blacks actually do, because the challenge in electing this guy nation wide is that white working people typically do not relate to a black guy named Barack Hussein Obama, and I say this not as a slur, but as a fact. He will need to do this to win Hillary voters.

You really believe that's what we Hillary supporters are looking for in a candidate?

You do your candidate and our party a great disservice.

I know issues like the Iraq War, the economy, NAFTA, healthcare, Social Security and Medicare, prospective nominations to the Supreme Court and international political relations are weighty topics, and the easy stuff like the ongoing Drug War, rising crime rates, financing public education, unprotected borders and unprotected ports of entry and calming the agitated Muslim world are already given solutions by our two candidates...

but, please, don't insult us with the notion that all we are expecting Barack to do is give us a photo-op of him fishing or riding a horse to vote for him.

We're looking for a little more historical gravitas than that.


by RickWn on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 01:26:58 AM EST
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i'm not talking about the blogging Hillary voters (none / 0)

Hillary has a lot of voters who DON'T blog, who aren't activists and political junkies like us, that is the difference between her supporters and his supporters. he needs to be able to get some of those voters, and the non-primary voters with swing voters and former GOPer voters by doing those kind of things. If we have learned anything from 2000 to 2004, that is we need candidates who can connect with people on somewhat of a degree. If he can do it the LEAST bit better than John Kerry, he can win the Presidency.


"there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right in America"-William Jefferson Clinton, forty-second President of the United States
by DiamondJay on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 02:01:38 AM EST
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I image that roughly 70% of new (none / 0)

Registrations are Obama supporters...to give credit where credit is due


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by CardBoard on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 12:30:32 AM EST

To give credit where credit is due, (none / 0)

you should be applauding the failed and corrupt administration of one George Walker Bush.

That's what history will recall as the cause of the 2008 Democratic sweep. A "shoo-in" for the Democrats after eight years of the most brazenly corrupt and selfishly led of political administrations.


by RickWn on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 01:57:01 AM EST
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Re: Pennsylvania Turning Bluer and Bluer (none / 0)

Here in NC we are seeing a similar impact from the presidential campaigns coming to the state. In my own county of Forsyth (Winston-Salem) we were racking up unprecendented registration gains even before the campaigns came to town. Their efforts are kicking it into high gear.

The other (and I think even more important) point is that it is helping us to build and expand the Democratic Party in the county and in the state. We've never been in better shape.

The recent Pew Research Poll in partisan indentification reflects that with North Carolina having the profile of a swing state instead of a red state. Hopefully by the time the general election rolls around, we'll be deep blue:
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/773/fewer-vo ters-identify-as-republicans

An energetic but civil primary contest could pay dividends for years to come. Let's try to make that happen!


by NCMike on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 12:42:05 AM EST

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In the period between the end of the primary and before the general we would be so much stronger across the whole country if the current registration efforts up to now are super charged. There are people out there who would be solid democratic base voters, we just need to identify, register, and turn  them out. I'm thinking of unregistered lower income young single women in urban areas as a good example. They skew massively democratic (and progressive), but many are unregistered.

Even if these newly registered voters don't quite swing some states in 2008 it could make a big difference in various congressional and state legislative races. Control of state legislatures is going to be key going into the census in 2010 and the redistricting that occurs as a result. Who do we want drawing the state legislature and congressional district maps for the next 10 years?


by Quinton on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 02:23:24 AM EST
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Re: Pennsylvania Turning Bluer and Bluer (2.00 / 1)

Welcome back Jonathan.  Thanks for the uplifting post.


by mefck on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 12:48:07 AM EST

Re: Pennsylvania Turning Bluer and Bluer (2.00 / 1)

  They are not done counting in Pennsylvania.  It will be another week.  I know that here in Centre county there at least a couple thousand more registrants to be counted.  I would not be surprised if by the end of counting there are more Democrats than Republicans and Independents combined.
   Dauphin, Centre, and Montgomery counties are about to turn blue because of the registration efforts.  Amazing.
Jim Oberweis
by cilerder86 on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 12:48:57 AM EST

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While we are fighting our DEM bubble, this shows real progress on our side of the aisle in a rust belt state like PA. IT gives hope -regardless of our primary's tenor - for November.  ANd - shows  our tent is getting bigger, where folks like a pro-lifer in Casey, and a machine-hack like Rendall show pragmatism and nuance rule the day.  


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by stryan on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 01:22:26 AM EST

Re: Pennsylvania Turning Bluer and Bluer (none / 0)

The new registrations are probably legit new Democrats.  I have reservations about the Republican switches.  A decent percentage of them could be Rush voters or Hillary-hating Republicans voting Dem for a day.

Either way 100,000+ new applications is a good thing.


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by jturn17 on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 01:46:14 AM EST

Re: Pennsylvania Turning Bluer and Bluer (none / 0)

  This obsession with Limbaugh Democrats (on both sides) is absurd.  The barrier to changing your party affiliation in Pennsylvania is much higher than in Ohio.  You can't just show up the polls and say, "I'm a Democrat (cough...for the day)."  A large percentage of the switches are from the Philly suburbs - also known as RINO land.  For example, 50% of PA-07 is Republican, yet Sestak won with 57% of the vote in 2006.  RINOS everywhere!  They're finally switching to the party that is a better fit for them.


Jim Oberweis
by cilerder86 on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 02:27:10 AM EST
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Re: Pennsylvania Turning Bluer and Bluer (none / 0)

That's great!  

It's about time that Democrats began winning the marketing of politics!  No more "Republican = tough/Democrat = weak."  I'd love to punch 'em in the gut and win those RINOs over.  I'm happy to start with their votes this year.  I hope we get their party affliation and loyalty by having a great eight year run in the White House!

Unfortunately, the Congressional leadership isn't helping to win over these voters.  They need to SERIOUSLY stand up to Bush on an issue.  If something's shut down for a couple of months, until inauguration, then so be it.


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by freedom78 on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 02:41:00 AM EST
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Re: Pennsylvania Turning Bluer and Bluer (none / 0)

Unfortunately, the Congressional leadership isn't helping to win over these voters.  They need to SERIOUSLY stand up to Bush on an issue.

HEAR, HEAR!
Pick an issue. ANY Issue. Bush is so vunerable on so many things, the Dems need to go after him like a pack of wild dogs.

And for that matter, Barack needs to start showing some teeth against McCain too. I know he trying to avoid the 'angry black man' syndrome, but he has to start showing some fire.


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by xodus1914 on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 09:36:03 AM EST
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Re: Pennsylvania Turning Bluer and Bluer (none / 0)

You might want to check this site about PA
http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Ob ama/Maps/Mar31.html
by joliepoint on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 02:46:24 AM EST

Re: Pennsylvania Turning Bluer and Bluer (none / 0)

Fear of unifying the party is overblown. It's not like we'll open an envelope and be shocked to learn it's a two-step process to the White House. Does anyone really believe the interest level and opinion and emotion would threaten current level if this were merely a race between Hillary and Obama? The ultimate prize influences everything and we won't forfeit.

The independents may narrowly prefer our opponent. That's simply reality in a relentlessly partisan era, regardless if we pranced through fields of daisies clutching hands, immediately after Super Tuesday. Particularly if you explore first woman or first black. Margin for error wasn't a consideration in either route.

I'm also baffled at the paranoia at extending this. Our nominee will be remembered and perceived as a winner, someone who withstood a marathon primary battle vs. a talented and qualified opponent. I have no idea how that's supposed to be a negative. It's got some similarities to voting for best picture of the past decade or best athlete of the past decade, etc. Front and center are the most recent, the ones you don't have to scramble to remember. Especially if they had a near-equal challenger. As long as the final theme out of the convention isn't negative, we'll be fine.

There are basically 4 types of general elections:

1. Incumbent with party in power only one term

  1. Open race after one party has held office 2 straight terms
  2. Incumbent or open race after one party has held power 3+ terms
  3. Open race after one-term incumbent decides not to seek re-election

#4 is basically unheard of. #1 is massive edge to the incumbent party, 9 wins in the past 10, normally by decisive margin. That's the wall we faced in '04, always more unlikely than we dared to understand. #3 is very rare, and what we've trying to avoid in '12, last sample in '92 when Clinton ousted Bush 41. Apparently it's a huge edge to the out party in an itchy electorate. Previous example was '52 when Ike won handily.

But #2 is where we are now. It typically produces the coin flip outcomes in modern American politics -- '60, '68, '76, '00. Only exception was '88 when voters desired a 3rd Reagan term from Bush 41.

The out party won all 4 tight verdicts. But the sample size and margins don't allow me to place complete faith in our situational edge. 60/40 sounds about right.

Notice that family feuds, the heated extended primary battles, are generally within the party with the situational disadvantage. In other words, parties trying to overcome #1 or survive  #2. The only modern (past 50 years) example of a party with the situational edge failing in November after a primary fight was Jimmy Carter in 1980. That was #1 mode, the only instance in the past 100 years in which an incumbent with his party in power only one term was booted. But that result can be linked to inept economy and foreign affairs disaster. In '08, those two factors work for us, not against us, so a primary scuffle shouldn't be implosive.


by Gary Kilbride on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 02:50:55 AM EST

Upsides (none / 0)

I totally agree that there are some major upsides to this race continuing and think a lot of people are counting out Hillary prematurely.

The thing that is frustrating to me is that the positives of the race continuing don't have to come with the negatives. If both sides would stop with the personal attacks, we could reap the benefits of registering dems in the remaining states and building infrastructure for the GE, but without both of the democratic candidates taking hits in their disapproval ratings.

We're shooting ourselves in the foot here and countering many of the good things that have been happening. I mean, c'mon, how is a guy who's EMBRACING a president with a 26% approval rating, and who's calling for a 100 year war in Iraq, how is such a guy polling so well against our candidates?

We may never see a better climate for taking over the presidency and making major gains in congress. And we're pissing it away with infighting.


by HRC 2009 on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 04:09:18 AM EST

Good and Good (none / 0)

I will restate my opinion that while I think the dem nom process is over, being an Obama mathematician, I have no problem for the race to continue on through the last contest (but hopefully not much longer than that).....as long as the fight remains mostly above the belt.

This trend we see in Penn. is the direct benefit of the prolonged process.  States that normally dont get a chance to voice their opinion now have that chance.

While I may not be totally optimistic that both sides will stay above the belt, Id like to believe its possible.

And while Id like more of a spotlight to be shown on McInsane to show how truly terrible he has become, I will be content for now if that doesnt happen until June.

We've got two better candidates than McInsane and if we showcase them right and keep interest in dems up, its a win win.

Go dems 08!


by pattonbt on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 04:15:13 AM EST

Rasmussen showing closer race today (none / 0)

Looks like Obama's voter drive and bus tour are paying dividends


by petercjack on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 08:40:54 AM EST

Re: Pennsylvania Turning Bluer and Bluer (none / 0)

Polls are closing in PA-

A 5 point gap now in Rasmussen (from ten last time)
A 12 point one in SUSA (from 19 last time)


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by politicsmatters on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 09:37:06 AM EST

November (none / 0)

So, if primary turnout is so high, and registration numbers are up, will this be the case in November?

Will the GOP regain some voters this fall (more than the Limbaugh Democrats)?  

Perhaps we gain seats in Congress, despite a McCain victory.


by mikelow1885 on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 07:26:41 PM EST


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