MyDD :: Israel and Hamas: The games people play UPDATED

Israel and Hamas: The games people play UPDATED

by shergald, Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 12:05:22 PM EST

After Bush in January called for an end to Israel's military occupation of Palestinian lands, the creation of a Palestinian state, and again predicted success within year, his words have yet to have any impact on the Israel government. And about this plan, Bush was also specific:

RAMALLAH, West Bank January 10, 2008

"There should be an end to the occupation that began in 1967. The agreement must establish Palestine as a homeland for the Palestinian people, just as Israel is a homeland for the Jewish people. These negotiations must ensure that Israel has secure, recognized, and defensible borders. And they must ensure that the state of Palestine is viable, contiguous, sovereign, and independent."

LINK

The problem is that Israel apparently has other designs, and has already created obstacles to deflect the Bush Road Map, like the "security" meme, and fears about Hamas and Hezbollah, allegedly terrorist organizations that developed to fight Israel's military occupations in Lebanon and the Palestinian territories in the first place.

But deflecting or avoiding peace negotiations in order to continue to confiscate Palestinian lands in the West Bank (and formerly Gaza) is nothing new. Jeff Halper, founder of the peace group Israel Committee Against House Demolitions, reviewed the history prior to 2000 and found avoidance a consistent reaction to peace efforts (The Problem with Israel and When the Roadmap is a One Way Street). From 2000 on, after the Camp David/Taba negotiations faltered when Israel was incapable of removing any of its West Bank settlements (giving rise to the Clinton-Ross myth of the "generous offer"), Israel was offered full regional acceptance in return for a Palestinian state by the Arab League twice (2002, 2006) and even by Iran (2003 via intermediary). The previous Oslo and contemporary Geneva Accords also went nowhere in convincing Israel to take the two state solution.

Yesterday, it was reported by the Associated Press that the Bush administration backs Egyptian diplomacy in Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Out of apparent frustration going through Israel, Bush has decided to use Egypt as a intermediary to talk with Hamas.

March. 6, 2008

BRUSSELS, Belgium - To defuse the threat from Gaza militants to Israel and President Bush's Mideast peace program, the U.S. has decided that the ends justify the means.

Hamas, which controls the Gaza Strip, is considered a terrorist group by Washington. U.S. law forbids official contacts. Nonetheless, the Bush administration is giving quiet support for Egypt's attempt to broker a deal with Hamas for a truce in Gaza.

Under this approach, which U.S. officials and Mideast diplomats confirmed, Hamas would halt rocket attacks from Gaza. Israel would agree not to launch the kind of military incursions that nearly wrecked the U.S.-sponsored peace talks last weekend and would ease its blockade of Gaza.

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Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, after NATO meetings in Brussels, was asked about Egyptian-brokered truce talks. "I talked with the Egyptians and we fully expect the Egyptians to carry out the efforts that they said they would carry out to try to bring calm to the region, to try to improve the situation in Gaza," she said.

The U.S. dislikes the terms truce or cease-fire because they lend political legitimacy to Hamas. Rice talks in public only about the need for calm. But during stops in Israel and the West Bank this week, she did acknowledge Hamas' influence, saying the group has the power to halt rocket attacks and is trying to stop the peace process.

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The U.S. had resisted Arab proposals for accommodation with Hamas in the past, insisting it does not pay to talk to terrorists. Israel also fears that radicals would use the lull of a cease-fire to rearm.

The bullshit in these statements is incredible. Hamas has offered Israel a "ceasefire" several times, but the Israeli government has refused on grounds that Hamas is a terrorist group and that it will not recognize Israel, and at various times, because Hamas will just rearm. But after reading Halper, the truth is rather that Israel is reluctant to give up the red herring that hides its designs on the West Bank and needs Hamas for this purpose.

Here are just a few of the headlines from the past few years about Hamas' willingness to broker a cease fire if Israel would desist from deadly incursions into Gaza and the West Bank to assassinate Palestinian militants, who are fighting Israel's incessant military occupation and colonization of lands, which goes on today.

Sep 21, 2007

Israel rejects Gaza cease-fire offer
By JPOST.COM STAFF

Dec 23, 2007

Ehud Olmert rejects Hamas' offer of cease-fire in Gaza Strip
By Haaretz Correspondents

Prime Minister Ehud Olmert on Sunday rejected Hamas' offer of a cease-fire in the Gaza Strip, saying the government would not hold talks with the Islamist group until it recognizes Israel.

June 15, 2006

Hamas offers to restore ceasefire
By BBC

The Hamas-led Palestinian government is willing to urge militants to renew a ceasefire if Israel halts its attacks on Gaza, a spokesman has said.

April 7, 2006

Hamas Offers Israel Cease-Fire Bid, Report Says
By Associated Press

JERUSALEM -- The Islamic militant group Hamas has offered Israel a proposal for a broad, extended cease-fire in exchange for guarantees that the Israeli army won't attack militants in the West Bank and Gaza Strip, an Israeli newspaper reported Friday.
The Haaretz daily said the new Hamas-led government would pledge not to carry out attacks against Israel and would prevent other Palestinian groups from doing so.

March 04, 2006

Hamas ready to extend cease-fire
By Daily Star (Beirut) staff

March 07, 2008

Hamas offers Gaza ceasefire
By Patrick Seale, Gulf News

Palestinian group Hamas has offered Israel a truce through former British Prime Minister Tony Blair, sources told Gulf News.

December 19, 2007

Under pressure, Hamas offers Israel truce talks
By By Dan Murphy, Christian Science Monitor

The Hamas leaders' proposal, coming after an Israeli attack killed 12 militants in Gaza Tuesday, was met with skepticism on both sides.

November 01 2006

Hamas touts 10-year ceasefire to break deadlock over Israel
By Guardian (Britain) staff

Hamas is urging Britain to back its proposal for a ceasefire of up to 10 years as a way of breaking the impasse over its refusal to recognise the state of Israel. The most senior delegation from the Hamas government to visit Britain is in London this week to promote its offer to allow a period of "co-existence" with Israel as a way to move to an eventual settlement of the Middle East conflict.

So who is responsible for the continuing rocketing of Sderot, which are obviously in retaliation for targeted killings of Palestinian militants, attacks often carried out by American F-16s that kill bystanders and even entire families, including children? Israel refuses to stop them.

The games people play. And the US and the press play along.

UPDATE: This morning Uri Avnery, founder of Gush Shalom (the Peace Bloc), sent out his latest article about Olmert's games.

Uri Avnery 08.03.08
Kill A Hundred Turks And Rest…
I WAS reminded this week of the old tale about a Jewish mother taking leave of her son, who has been called up to serve in the Czar's army against the Turks.
"Don't exert yourself too much," she admonishes him, "Kill a Turk and rest. Kill another Turk and rest again…"
"But mother," he exclaims, "What if the Turk kills me?"
"Kill you?" she cries out, "Why? What have you done to him?"
This is not a joke (and this is not a week for jokes). It is a lesson in psychology. I was reminded of it when I read Ehud Olmert's statement that more than anything else he was furious about the outburst of joy in Gaza after the attack in Jerusalem, in which eight yeshiva students were killed.
Before that, last weekend, the Israeli army killed 120 Palestinians in the Gaza Strip, half of them civilians, among them dozens of children. That was not "kill a Turk and rest". That was "kill a hundred Turks and rest". But Olmert does not understand.
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Tags: Israel, Palestine, Hamas, Bush, Rice, Road Map (all tags)

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Disagreement(Obamaniac for Israel) (2.00 / 1)

Hamas is a terrorist organization and a political movement. Since the political movement of Hamas is in control of the Gaze Strip, they are effectively the administration of the Gaza Strip. What you fail to note is that Israel has been demanding the return of Gilad Shalit, the Israeli corporal who was 19 when he was kidnapped by Hamas. Hamas has continually fired rockets into Israel, usually targeting the town of Sderot, but occasionally(like last week) they manage to reach the city of Ashkelon.

Hamas, like Hizbollah, tries to appear as the victim while acting as the victimizer. Most people don't understand the historical context of the conflict. When more Jews began moving to British-controlled Palestine, there were Arab groups which forced with an unhealthy amount of xenophobia. Distrust for these new Jews from Europe. The hostility led to the formation of Jewish militias, which would be instrumental in the years to come.

Britain became caught up in the middle of a squabble between the Jews and the Arabs. Much of this was Britain's fault, for in trying to maintain their empire they tried playing both sides against the middle. Divide and conquer. Both sides rejected the Brits, so the newly-formed U.N. came along to weigh in. What people seem to neglect to mention is that the U.N. didn't just create Israel, they also created Palestine. When Israel declared formal independence, every Arab neighbor declared war on Israel.

Every Jewish man, woman, and young adult took up arms to defend their country and nation. The Jewish militias mentioned earlier were instrumental in the war of the late 40's, and would eventually be reformed into the Israeli Defense Forces. The well-organized Jews pushed out the mess of Arab fighters, and crimes against humanity occurred on BOTH sides. Since the war was being fought by different ethnic and religious groups, Arabic people in Israel were afraid of the rumors and occasional truths to massacres taking place. Jews were inhumanely killed as well. The result of Israel winning, however, prompted many to flee Israel.

This is where things get interesting. On their way out of Israel, after suffering defeat, Egypt annexed the Gaza Strip. Jordan annexed the West Bank. Years later, Israel heard word that some of the Arabs were planning to attack Israel at some point in the future. Rather than let Egypt use Gaza as a staging ground for an invasion, or the West Bank for Jordan, or the Golan Heights for Syria, Israel went out and owned in the dramatically-short war of 1967. Six years later, during the most important Jewish holiday, Syria and Egypt again tried to invade Israel. Again, they suffered a humiliating defeat.

"Behold, I send you out as sheep amidst the wolves! Therefore, be as wise as a serpent, And as harmless as a dove."

by Setrak on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 12:25:51 PM EST

Re: Israel and Hamas: The games people play (none / 0)

You just repeating Israeli propaganda that surfaced after 9/11, nothing more. Both Hamas and Hezbollah developed to fight military occupations. In the case of Hezbollah, it was a reaction to Sharon's invasion, in which over 20,000 mostly Shiites died in southern Lebanon, like the more than 1200 who died in 2006, Most all of them civilians. Hamas developed through the material assistance of Israel in the late 1980s in order to counteract the PLO, which was becoming dangerous: Arafat began talking about peace and had already acknowledged Israel's right to exist.

We now know that that Lebanon invasion and the Gaza one that went on simultaneously were preplanned three months earlier and waiting for a pretext, the kidnapped soldiers. More bullshit.

The truth is as given in the diary.

The other nonsense about the Zionists's right to take the homeland of the Palestinian people for over a thousand years, Palestine, by force and disenfranchise them, and then turn it into their own country is a human rights injustice which entail many war crimes in the process. There is no need to mention the ethnic cleansing of two thirds of the Palestinian population, two thirds, in 1948, or the ethnic cleansing that continued in the West Bank and Gaza after 1967 at the rate of 100,000 each year. They are well known.

About Israel's terrorist propaganda effort (which the US State Department has bought into), click on Peace, Propaganda, & The Promised Land below. To get more education about the reality, also read Jeff Halper's papers through the links provided above.

Click on Peace, Propaganda, & The Promised Land and learn the truth about the I/P conflict.

by shergald on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 12:44:54 PM EST

Re: Israel and Hamas: The games people play (2.00 / 1)

Why don't you stop saying "Zionist" and say what you really mean? "Dirty Jews"

Hillary 2008!

by New York Democrat on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 01:07:09 PM EST

Re: Israel and Hamas: The games people play (none / 0)

Apparently you are not familiar with the Israeli and American Jews like Jeff Halper and the cast of Peace, Propaganda, & The Promised Land, who are the most vociferous about Israel's civil and human rights record as it pertains to the Palestinians.

Don't conflate right wing Zionists with Jews, lest you bring ire upon yourself.

Seth Ackerman Media Analyst and Contributing Writer, Fairness & Accuracy in Reporting (FAIR)
Mjr. Stav Adivi, IDF (Reserves) Courage to Refuse | Board Member, Israeli Committee Against House Demolitions, Israel
Rabbi Arik Ascherman Executive Director, Rabbis for Human Rights
Hanan Ashrawi Founder & Secretary General, The Palestinian Initiative for the Promotion of Global Dialogue and Democracy (MIFTAH), Palestine
Noam Chomsky Professor of Linguistics, MIT | Author, Hegemony of Survival
Robert Fisk Journalist, The Independent, UK
Neve Gordon Ta'ayush: Jewish-Arab Partnership | Professor of Political Science, Ben Gurion University, Israel
Toufic Haddad Co-editor, Between the Lines, West Bank
Sam Husseini Communications Director, Institute for Public Accuracy
Hussein Ibish Communications Director, American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee
Robert Jensen Professor of Journalism, University of Texas-Austin | Board of Directors, Third Coast Activist
Rabbi Michael Lerner Founder & Executive Director, Tikkun Magazine
Karen Pfeifer Professor or Economics, Smith College | Contributing Editor, Middle East Research and Information Project (MERIP)
Alisa Solomon Journalist, The Village Voice
Gila Svirsky Co-founder, Women in Black | Coalition of Women for Peace, Israel

Click on Peace, Propaganda, & The Promised Land and learn the truth about the I/P conflict.

by shergald on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 01:21:17 PM EST
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Shergald... (2.00 / 1)

...you've been doing such great work on behalf of Obama - do you really need to ruin it with your tendentious screeds about Israel?

"This election is not about ideology, it's about competence." -Michael Dukakis

by MBNYC on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 01:26:36 PM EST

Re: Shergald... (none / 0)

MBNYC - unfortunately the anti-semitism on the left is the great silent divide among democrats. I do not believe Obama buys into Sheralds nonsense. The tragedy of people dying in Israel is real, but people like Shergald use it to express anti-semitism. 'Anti-Israel' or 'Anti-Zionism' or 'Zionists' thrown out by fools who understand only one perspective is code for jew hate. Shergald relies on a film for his education. Although Obama does not share these views, those who do are mostly in the Obama camp. I'm not saying being in Obama's camp means one is a 'Shergald', I know most (99%+) are not, but the 'Shergalds' of the party find their home in Obama's camp.

Anti-semites were happy when Jews were quiet, understanding, waiting for the world to help. Waiting for the nations to step in and protect them from pogroms or slaughter. Germany and Russia, Poland killed them, England prevented Jews from being saved and the arab world sat and watched. 6+ millions jews wiped out, this means 12+ millions not walking around today.

Now that Jews have a state to defend themselves - they will. damn world opinion. Shergald is outraged for every death around the world that is not stopped by the US. Where was the arab world when Jews were sufferung genocide. either silent or encouraging it. Jews have a state, have an army and with it mistakes get made like all other states and armies. I'll take over sitting silently waiting for death to come to all jews as the world either cheers or sits in quiet sympathy.

by oaktownchicken on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 02:37:40 PM EST
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Re: Shergald... (none / 0)

Are you being honest? Aren't you redchicken. He said the same things you say, all having to do, not with the truths imparted by the diary, but with slaying the messenger.

I have always viewed, and it invariably comes up, messenger slayers as Islamophobics deep into Arab and Muslim bigotry, like the kind of hatred spouted every day on Little Green Footballs by the right wing Zionists who hang out there.

Get thee back to your home base, and give our regards to Charles Johnson.

Click on Peace, Propaganda, & The Promised Land and learn the truth about the I/P conflict.

by shergald on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 03:20:07 PM EST
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Re: Shergald... (none / 0)

Obviously I disagree with your assessment and opinions. But, please, take my word, I am not and have never heard of 'redchicken'. I guess you are anti-chicken as well...

by oaktownchicken on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 03:32:09 PM EST
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Well... (none / 0)

I think you need to demonstrate that Shergald's intent is anti-Semitic. I don't agree with his specific take, certainly not with the ferocity with which he takes it, but I also don't think it's anti-Semitic.

But let me step away here before this turns into a trainwreck.

"This election is not about ideology, it's about competence." -Michael Dukakis

by MBNYC on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 04:25:05 PM EST
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Re: Shergald... (none / 0)

Look who's back.

Well, I can understand your being here sort of, given the relative calm on Daily Kos, and the totally boring mess that has always constituted Gotham.

Wait, I take that back. Jon and Heathlander are still telling it like it is, litho occasionally gives us some publicity, and a host of other strange creatures have since come on Daily Kos who continue to reveal the truth about Israeli-Palestinian injustice.

Stick around. We need more truth slayers on this blog. It helps to send the message out.

Click on Peace, Propaganda, & The Promised Land and learn the truth about the I/P conflict.

by shergald on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 02:44:08 PM EST
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I'm back to posting here (none / 0)

which I haven't done in a while, because I want Obama to be the nominee, as, I gather, do you. That is the background to my comment in toto.

"This election is not about ideology, it's about competence." -Michael Dukakis

by MBNYC on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 04:30:44 PM EST
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Re: Israel and Hamas: The games people play (none / 0)

It is my belief that the diarist accurately represents Obama's view on the subject of Palestine Hamas and Israel.

by coolofthenight on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 02:37:44 PM EST

Re: Israel and Hamas: The games people play (none / 0)

Obama's our best bet for a final solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Given that the Israeli government is totally ignoring the Bush Road Map, to say nothing about his latest pronouncements as quoted above, Obama is the person to start the ball rolling on peace in the Middle East, finally.

"Free at last, free at last, God Almighty, free at last."

Which liberal Democrat doesn't remember those words. Palestinian freedom and self-determination must eventually come. It is only hoped that Israel will not decimate the Palestinian population before it occurs (Jeff Halper quoted).

Click on Peace, Propaganda, & The Promised Land and learn the truth about the I/P conflict.

by shergald on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 02:49:15 PM EST
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Re: Israel and Hamas: The games people play (none / 0)

Wow - Israel ignoring Bush, how criminal... ...wait, all countries ignore Bush, but Israel is still eveil.

Thanks for coming a bit closer to announcing your anti-semitism.

"Obama's our best bet for a final solution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict."

Unbelievable: Final Solution! I don't think Obama wants his name next to that Nazi phrase.

by oaktownchicken on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 02:52:25 PM EST
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Re: Israel and Hamas: The games people play (none / 0)

That peace hopeful phrase is right out of Jimmy Carter's book, Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid. Does someone have a copyright on it?

As I suggested, you need to get yourself back to Little Green Footballs and the Paletinian hate crowd. At this point, you are revealing yourself as a proponent of Israel's brutality of the Palestinians, and Israel's military occupation/colonialism of land belonging to Palestinian families being ethnically cleansed from the West Bank, this day as I speak.

Click on Peace, Propaganda, & The Promised Land and learn the truth about the I/P conflict.

by shergald on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 03:25:49 PM EST
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Re: Israel and Hamas: The games people play (none / 0)

Yes, there is a copyright on it - it belongs to a man called Hitler and a party called Nazi. Sorry to see Carter is steeling from the Nazi's, he's better than that. I guess you have never heard of Hitler's 'Final Solution'?

by oaktownchicken on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 03:35:35 PM EST
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All men and women are entitled to beliefs, no matter how baseless they are.

"Behold, I send you out as sheep amidst the wolves! Therefore, be as wise as a serpent, And as harmless as a dove."

by Setrak on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 02:57:08 PM EST
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Re: Israel and Hamas: The games people play (none / 0)

Not if they lead to the killing of innocent civilians, they don't, beliefs that is.

When that happens, there is no entitlement. There is just complicity, as observed in the Palestinian territories, of suffering and death of innocents. All those innocent ask for is freedom and self-determination, the kind of things Americans typically support, given their own history.

Click on Peace, Propaganda, & The Promised Land and learn the truth about the I/P conflict.

by shergald on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 03:28:44 PM EST
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Re: Israel and Hamas: The games people play (none / 0)

Innocent civilians like the boys who were slaughtered in the Jerusalem yeshiva this week by a Palestinian terrorist? The ones whose deaths were celebrated by the Palestinian mob in the streets of Gaza? Would you agree that there are no beliefs that can justify those deaths?

Rules for Life: Do not annoy others; Do not be too easily annoyed.

by Not the only Dem in KS on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 04:02:31 PM EST
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Dem in KS - you have to understand (which I know you do) that Shergald is interested in half truths, so he would never mention the yeshiva massacre because it doesn't fit into his I/P construct and propaganda. It's too bad, Palestianian deaths ARE tragic and sadden me greatly (as it does most people), but it's sadder that Shergald and others use their deaths as propaganda.

Plenty of Israeli's and Jews show great sympathy for the violence on all sides - Israeli's and Jews do not come out into the streets en masse to celebrate the deaths of palestians. That's sick.

by oaktownchicken on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 05:08:49 PM EST
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Re: Israel and Hamas: The games people play (none / 0)

I wonder how long it will be until you are banned from this site? Only the Obama Pro Palestinian
point of view is allowed

by coolofthenight on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 06:15:04 PM EST
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Re: Israel and Hamas: The games people play (none / 0)

Yours is the only post worth responding to. I believe that all views are welcome here. The problem is that we have not seen any diaries supporting and justifying the right wing Zionist perspective. As far as I can tell, there is no prohibition on such diaries here. But it always makes one ask: why aren't we seeing them?

Instead, what one sees in many comments is avoidance of discussion of content that bring forth the reality, which is replaced by criticism, mostly charges of anti-Semitism, against the diarist for telling the truth. Is truth anti-Semitic? And what is there to say about Israeli, American, British, and even South African Jews who criticize even more vociferously? Are they self-haters? Mostly I think that such accusations come from outsiders who lack appreciation of the civil and human rights agenda of the left wing of the Democratic party.

So to chicken and the other critics who believe that the story that this diary tells is false, let's hear the other side of the story.

Click on Peace, Propaganda, & The Promised Land and learn the truth about the I/P conflict.

by shergald on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 07:57:37 PM EST
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Re: Israel and Hamas: The games people play (none / 0)

The deaths of those teenage students in the Jerusalem yeshiva was certainly tragic. It was about as tragic as the deaths of the 800 or so Israelis who died at the hands of Palestinian suicide bombers during the second Intifada, about which I have written. Like these recent deaths, the deaths caused by suicide bombings were, as in the yeshiva case, retaliatory, an apparent reaction to the 120 Palestinians who were killed in Gaza during the previous week.

If terrorism is the killing of civilians, then certainly Israel is a much grander terrorist than the Palestinians just by the numbers of Palestinian civilians, including children, killed over the years, undertaken moreover against a people living under a brutal and illegal military occupation, whose sole purpose is to colonize Palestinian lands in the West Bank.

Is that ultimate cause, land, worth it, since it has obviously led to Israeli deaths along with Palestinian deaths? Is that the price the right wing Zionists are willing to pay?

The Palestinians are not terrorists. Before any suicide bombers entered Israel, the IDF had already killed hundreds of Palestinians, including 86 children, whose deaths were documented. The 27 children who were reported by Alison Weir in her documentary, Off the Charts, were mostly shot in the head. In the first three months of the second Intifada, 156 Palestinian boys and girls, the rock throwing gangs of kids, lost an eye to rubber bullets. But just think of the anger that swells inside of people, family members, after attending funeral after funeral. The retaliation was inevitable, hence, the suicide bombers; and hence, the Palestinian man who sprayed bullets in the yeshiva.

Is it right, revenge? Well, that seems to be what is motivating both sides. But what is the ultimate cause? Ask, who is it that has who under military occupation, now going beyond 40 years?

If you are on one side of this conflict, you are on the wrong side. There are two sides. The central question is: who keeps the conflict going?

I respect the Israelis who are fighting to make Israel a decent country, one free of prejudice, vile ethnocentricism, and injustice. Decent Israelis do not use the centuries of bigotry and the Holocaust experienced by Jews to justify the disenfranchisement of the Palestinians of their homeland, and the suffering and death they have experienced for 60 years as a consequence. They would rather fight against the forces that created that bigotry, and the Holocaust, in the first place. And that fight is not against the Palestinians.

Click on Peace, Propaganda, & The Promised Land and learn the truth about the I/P conflict.

by shergald on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 08:41:44 PM EST
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