Hitting Hillary where it counts

A terrible foreign policy and human rights record in the Senate is a sufficient basis upon which the Obama camp can go negative. Tax returns bedamned. Just tell the truth.

In a recent Daily Kos diary, Ten Reasons Not to Vote for Hillary Clinton (Mon Feb 04, 2008), fromtheleft listed several foreign policy reasons why Hillary is likely to follow in George Bush's footsteps and keep the United States in a state of war in the Middle East. On the matter of Iraq, Iran, Lebanon, Syria, and Israel-Palestine, Hillary's votes on matters relating to foreign policy in the Senate have followed a right wing agenda: stay the course in Iraq, bomb Iran's nuclear facilities, and continue Israel's efforts to complete colonization of the West Bank.

Hillary Clinton voted for Bush's Iraq war

Hillary Clinton voted for Bush's Patriot Act to spy on Americans and to reauthorize the Act when it came up for renewal

Hillary Clinton opposed the international treaty to ban land mines
Hillary Clinton is one of the Senate's most outspoken critics of the United Nations

Hillary Clinton voted against the Feinstein-Leahy amendment restricting U.S. exports of cluster bombs to countries that use them against civilian-populated areas (like Israel during its invasion of Lebanon)

Hillary Clinton is one of the most prominent critics of the International Court of Justice for its landmark 2004 advisory ruling that the Fourth Geneva Conventions on the Laws of War is legally binding on all signatory nations

Hillary Clinton supported Israel's massive military assault on the civilian infrastructure of Lebanon and the Gaza Strip, which took the lives of over 1,000 civilians, half of whom were children

All of fortheleft's points reveal the danger of Hillary Clinton were she elected president.

In December 2007. Stephen Zunes wrote about Hillary Clinton on International Law:

Perhaps the most terrible legacy of the administration of President George W. Bush has been its utter disregard for such basic international legal norms as the ban against aggressive war, respect for the UN Charter, and acceptance of international judicial review. Furthermore, under Bush's leadership, the United States has cultivated a disrespect for basic human rights, a disdain for reputable international human rights monitoring groups, and a lack of concern for international humanitarian law.

Ironically, the current front-runner for the Democratic nomination for president shares much of President Bush's dangerous attitudes toward international law and human rights.

For example, Senator Hillary Clinton has opposed restrictions on U.S. arms transfers and police training to governments that engage in gross and systematic human rights abuses. Indeed, she has supported unconditional U.S. arms transfers and police training to such repressive and autocratic governments as Egypt, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Pakistan, Equatorial Guinea, Azerbaijan, Cameroon, Kazakhstan, and Chad, just to name a few. She has also refused to join many of her Democratic colleagues in signing a letter endorsing a treaty that would limit arms transfers to countries that engage in a consistent pattern of gross and systematic human rights violations.

Not only is she willing to support military assistance to repressive regimes, she has little concern about controlling weapons that primarily target innocent civilians. Senator Clinton has refused to support the international treaty to ban land mines, which are responsible for killing and maiming thousands of civilians worldwide, a disproportionate percentage of whom have been children.

She was also among a minority of Democratic Senators to side with the Republican majority last year in voting down a Democratic-sponsored resolution restricting U.S. exports of cluster bombs to countries that use them against civilian-populated areas. Each of these cluster bomb contains hundreds of bomblets that are scattered over an area the size of up to four football fields and, with a failure rate of up to 30%, become de facto land mines. As many as 98% of the casualties caused by these weapons are civilians.

Not only is Hillary's record in the Senate clearly anti-American on human rights and the protection of innocent civilians, she has taken up war mongering rhetoric against Iran. In April 2007, Hillary announced that the US might have to confront Iran

Democratic presidential candidate and New York Senator Hillary Clinton said Tuesday that it might be necessary for America to confront Iran militarily, addressing that possibility more directly than any of the other presidential candidates who spoke this week to the National Jewish Democratic Council.

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Clinton first said that the US should be engaging directly with Iran to foil any effort to gain nuclear weapons and faulted the Bush administration for "considerably narrowing" the options available to America in countering Iran.

In an earlier article, Justin Raimondo called her a War Goddess:

January 23, 2006

(Hillary) wants permanent bases in Iraq and threatens war with Iran.

As the war in Iraq metastasizes into what General William E. Odom calls "the greatest strategic disaster in United States history," and the cost in lives and treasure continues to escalate, we are already being set up for Act II of the neocons' Middle East war scenario - with the Democrats taking up where the Republicans left off.

The Bush administration, for all its bellicose rhetoric, has shown little stomach for directly confronting Tehran, and this has prompted Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Rodham Clinton to take on the Bushies for supposedly ignoring the alleged threat from Iran. Speaking at Princeton University on the occasion of the Wilson School's 75th anniversary celebration, Clinton aligned herself with such Republican hawks as Sen. John McCain and the editorial board of the Weekly Standard, calling for sanctions and implicitly threatening war:

"I believe that we lost critical time in dealing with Iran because the White House chose to downplay the threats and to outsource the negotiations. I don't believe you face threats like Iran or North Korea by outsourcing it to others and standing on the sidelines. But let's be clear about the threat we face now: A nuclear Iran is a danger to Israel, to its neighbors and beyond. The regime's pro-terrorist, anti-American and anti-Israel rhetoric only underscores the urgency of the threat it poses. U.S. policy must be clear and unequivocal. We cannot and should not - must not - permit Iran to build or acquire nuclear weapons. In order to prevent that from occurring, we must have more support vigorously and publicly expressed by China and Russia, and we must move as quickly as feasible for sanctions in the United Nations. And we cannot take any option off the table in sending a clear message to the current leadership of Iran - that they will not be permitted to acquire nuclear weapons."

The key phrase here is: Democrats taking up where the Bush left off, a direct reference to Hillary Clinton.

The American people must know, apart from Hillary's inexperience in foreign policy, just what her positions are, lest she foolishly attack Iran, put the Middle East in turmoil, and create an economic recession here in the US, the likes of which have not been seen since Jimmy Carter's presidency. Obama is obliged to warn the American public, and no where is it more opportune than in the last months of this primary campaign..



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Re: Hitting Hillary where it counts (none / 0)

Another Hillary hate diary. Ho hum.


by Safe at Home on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 11:36:26 AM EST

Hypocites (2.00 / 0)

These are words from your favored candidate. Words he stated on the Senate floor.

Mr. President, 4 years ago, following one of the most devastating attacks in our Nation's history, Congress passed the USA PATRIOT Act to give our Nation's law enforcement the tools they needed to track down terrorists who plot and lurk within our own borders and all over the world--terrorists who, right now, are looking to exploit weaknesses in our laws and our security to carry out even deadlier attacks than we saw on September 11th.  

We all agreed that we needed legislation to make it harder for suspected terrorists to go undetected in this country. Americans everywhere wanted that.

And this gem:  

I will be supporting the PATRIOT Act compromise.


by Fleaflicker on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 11:37:38 AM EST

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Compromise, get it.


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by shergald on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 11:47:28 AM EST
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Re: PS (none / 0)

PS: Obama along with Hillary also voted for Bush's military budgets, in order to support the troops, already in Iraq.

Any more? You can chip away at the edges but the general foreign policy decisions she has made, and the views she supports are warmongering and dangerous. No matter how often she comes back with convenient revisionary ideas to appear more moderate in the primary, her words and positions are out there.


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by shergald on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 11:51:28 AM EST
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Since when did Hillary supporters become so pro-war? It's crazy that they brush aside the fact she voted for this disaster.


by mecarr on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 11:44:57 AM EST

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Whereas Obama was ABSENT regarding Afghanistan oversight.

Obama missed more votes than anyone except McCain.

Hillary has a proven track record in the Senate.

OBAMA IS ALL FLUFF.


by Sieglinde on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 11:49:23 AM EST

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Obama was campaigning, but he did not have oversight in Afganistan. It was Europe, I believe.

Fluffs don't take us into unnecessary Neocon wars. What doesn't come through in the diary is that Hillary is Neocon leaning, and her foreign policy positions, right down the line, are identical to AIPAC's, with their right wing proIsrael bias. If Hillary were elected, don't expect anything more than eight years of more anguish and death in Israel/Palestine.

Hillary is proBush in all respects but this one, where she is right of Bush.


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by shergald on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 11:56:21 AM EST
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Obama = absent when it counts (none / 0)

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/obam a-absent-at-afghanistan-hearings-2008-03 -01.html


by Sieglinde on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 12:14:13 PM EST
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Re: Obama = absent when it counts (none / 0)

The issue was that Obama led a subcommittee on Foreign Relations, focused on Europe, and never convened a meeting.

What you need to do is show that Obama's absences were excessive, by obtaining a rollcall over the year for both Hillary and Obama.

However, the antiHillary criticism is about her positions, which would affect our foreign policy if she were elected president, not her attendance at meetings when she was in the Senate.

It is about policy and "judgment," and not missing meetings, as Reagan often did by falling asleep in cabinet meetings. It is about leadership. "Tough" is talk; judgment requires a political philosophy, and from what can be determined, Hillary's is as dangerous as Bush's.


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by shergald on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 12:28:23 PM EST
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Stop invoking Reagan ... he exacerbated racial problems and further enriched the rich.  That he slept in cabinet meetings proves many things about his lack of real leadership.

If you think Reagan was a paragon of leadership, then it makes sense that you see Obama as the right leader.  All about style, about empty rhetoric, false sense of communnity and unity.

Policy?  What policy has he owned that wasn't written for him on his website by his policy geeks?  Judgment?  How do you prove that his judgment was superior to Clinton's when he cast identical votes as her on matters of Iraq?

It is Obama that is as dangerous as Bush-- a lack of grasp of the nuance of diplomacy (bombing Pakistan, meeting with Chavez, sending troops back into Iraq to fight Al Qaeda).  Which part of his positions do you think isn't Bushian in nature?


by Sieglinde on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 12:51:36 PM EST
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Re: Obama = absent when it counts (none / 0)

Obama like Hillary, like the rest of the Senate approved bill to fund the troops already in Iraq. That comment is ridiculous as is the rest of this post.


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by shergald on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 03:07:47 PM EST
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So happy that Obama didn't vote. I would think less of him had he voted for this propaganda bill intent on creating a pretext for attacking Iran. Once again, Hillary supported Bush's dangerous foreign policy, which she has taken up as her own.


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by shergald on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 12:30:44 PM EST
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Your mathematics shows basic understanding of Hillary's problem.

Obama needs to stress her dangerousness to the country.


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by shergald on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 12:31:48 PM EST

Re: Hitting Hillary where it counts (none / 0)

Here's the mathematics.
rssrai = old people should get out of the way (35 years+?)
rssrai = all Clinton supporters are Bush cubed (more than half the Dem voters BTW)
Shergald = look above
Shergald = All Zionists/Israel supporters are evil.
rssrai + Shergald = promote Obama by pointing out Hillary 'shortcomings'

You two are so wise, I guess more than 50% of the democratic voters are just dumb.  Great strategy to sell people on Obama.  I could and will support Obama if he gets the nod, but many of his supporters are a bit childish. I can appreciate many peoples resons for supporting Obama, but calling Hillary super-bush is not one of them.  Respecting others opinions and being open to the fact that one may wrong from time to time is a sign of growth.


by oaktownchicken on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 12:48:40 PM EST

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Well, then grow up.


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by shergald on Thu Mar 06, 2008 at 03:09:24 PM EST
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