Presidential Campaign Oil Wrestling

Last week, the Obama campaign released a new TV spot for the Pennsylvania market slamming the oil companies' high prices and big profits. In the ad he touts his policy prescription: a windfall profits tax.

The Clinton campaign predictably fired back with charges that Obama "did so" take plenty of money from the oil industry. You can see a quick sound bite of Hillary bashing Obama's energy vote bill here.

Hillary Rodham Clinton's campaign was quick to send out an e-mail accusing Mr. Obama of making false statements in his ad, saying he has received more than $160,000 from the oil and gas companies. Phil Singer, deputy communications director for Mrs. Clinton, put out this statement: "It's unfortunate that Senator Obama is using false advertising to explain why he can be trusted to do something about energy prices. Senator Obama says he doesn't take campaign contributions from oil companies, but the reality is that Exxon Mobil, Shell and others are among his donors. I wonder if they'll fix the ad."
Obama's team quickly fired back with more of the "he said, she said":
Mr. Singer shouldn't hold his breath. Bill Burton, press secretary for the Obama campaign, reaffirmed the ad's message, saying "Senator Obama is the only candidate in the race who doesn't accept campaign contributions from special interests PACs and Washington lobbyists, and that includes oil companies and oil lobbyists." "The energy bill that Senator Clinton has already been criticized for misrepresenting -- one that Clinton supporters Representatives Murtha and Kanjorski also backed -- actually raised taxes on oil companies and made the largest investment in renewable energy in our nation's history," said Mr. Burton in a statement. "Instead of continuing with the negative and misleading tactics that voters everywhere are rejecting, Senator Clinton should get behind the Obama plan to ease the burden of rising gas prices on working families."
IMO, Obama's windfall profits tax idea is the definition of empty pandering. It didn't work for Jimmy Carter and there's no reason to believe it will work now. Sadly, all this finger pointing is ignoring a very obvious way to get more money out of the oil companies, money that they already owe the federal government. As I've been posting in this series, the Department of Interior has failed to collect more than $10 billion in revenues for petroleum removed from public lands. When will one of the candidates step up and promise to collect this outstanding debt?

Here's the Obama ad:

Here's a longer clip of Obama hitting Clinton for her lobbyist connections:



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Re: Presidential Campaign Oil Wrestling (none / 0)

Well, as a practical matter, I don't think a message of "enforcing the laws on the books" is as sexy as promising new regulations.  Maybe that's just me.


by rfahey22 on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 02:15:09 PM EST

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Excellent points.

This exemplifies why neither candidate excites me.  


by TomP on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 02:16:00 PM EST

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John Adams said that facts are stubborn things...

Picking on the energy industry is a standard part of Obama's stump speech, where he harshly criticizes the 2005 energy bill and the Vice President Dick Cheney's efforts in passing it.


"Exxon Mobil reported more than $10 billion in quarterly profits," Obama told a town hall in Greenburg, Pa. today. And then referring to Cheney, he added, "He met with the oil and gas companies 40 times. So is it any wonder than that the energy laws that were written were good for Exxon-Mobil but they are not good for you?"

The Problem...in 2005, Sen. Obama voted for the very same Dick Cheney energy bill, written in secret with the oil industry.


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by John Wesley Hardin was a Friend to the Poor on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 02:28:23 PM EST

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Gave you mojo on that one. One of the first posts I've seen you make that wasn't just baiting Obama's supporters.


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by vcalzone on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 03:56:37 PM EST
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Mojo from me too. This is exactly the kind of thing a candidate debate should be focusing on. Disappointing Obama voted with that insidious bill.

And I'm presuming Clinton voted against it?


by rhetoricus on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 10:42:49 PM EST
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Sounds like Obama's MO, though (none / 0)

He's a detail-oriented kind of guy; I could easily see him going over the books and realizing that there's $10 billion there we could snag.

Remember, Obama is endorsing PayGo, and the more money he takes in, the more of his programs get to be put into play.  Given how ambitious (and expensive) his plans are, if it comes down to micromanaging the collecting of debts to corporate monoliths that have been showing record profits (said monoliths that have been featuring prominantly in his stump speeches), then I suspect that he'll send the repo men if necessary.


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by Dracomicron on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 02:31:26 PM EST

Re: Sounds like Obama's MO, though (2.00 / 2)

That raises it's own issue.

Why not just eliminate the subsidy provided to the oil companies for oil exploration? Why do a tax? Why not just eliminate the tax money we give them?

Obama has had no problem ripping any of Sen Clinton's other proposals off. Why not that one?

BTW: His attitude toward climate change is the number one reason I won't vote Obama.


by SantaMonicaJoe on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 03:11:27 PM EST
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Re: Sounds like Obama's MO, though (none / 0)

What's his attitude about climate change?  I haven't heard anything I've found objectionable.


by ChrisKaty on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 04:31:42 PM EST
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Show me one plan that is ACTUALLY expensive.. (2.00 / 1)

Many of them are voluntary. Some are illegal under current trade law, like the requirements that discriminate against larger (internationally owned) businesses in requiring them to buy insurance for their employees that their locally owned (no international investors) counterparts do not have to buy.

The same thing goes for other violations of trade agreements like allowing the citizens of a country to violate intellectual property laws by buying patented pharmaceutical drugs overseas, bypassing the vendors that have paid the owners for the rights to sell their products to them.

Things like that are clear violations of WTO/NAFTA, that would require re-negotiation of trade agreements we have already signed. So you would have a multi-year delay while they work that out. Surely, he must realize that.


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by architek on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 04:46:45 PM EST
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Re: Sounds like Obama's MO, though (1.00 / 0)

His attitude toward climate change includes blithely ignoring invitations for forums on discussing it.

Hillary shows up. He does not.

Early, he was pro-nukes as a method of addressing it. He has evolved (under pressure) to nukes are not the "only" answer, and has to be addressed with safety concerns in mind. Coal, well, he's come out in favor of making sure coal is clean, after again pressure made him change his statements in that respect.

The pressure thing is actually good in a way. He's subject to it. But it doesn't show leadership or depth of support. Neither did his reason for not supporting the Boxer bill. His explanation was he was too busy supporting the compromise Lieberman version.

And regardless of how you feel about making your life carbon neutral by buying carbon offsets, Hillary has at least made her campaign carbon neutral. Obama, to my knowledge, has not.

It's my number one issue, and we need leadership on it. Not hearing anything "objectionable" does not mean that is what we will get. He has a pattern of following.


by SantaMonicaJoe on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 04:56:05 PM EST
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What the hell. (2.00 / 1)

The Obama campaign will be hearing from me. I better get a stronger commitment from the guy on this issue, if what you say is the case.


by rhetoricus on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 10:46:10 PM EST
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"Didn't work for Jimmy Carter..
Well ya know..maybe..jist maybe 2008 ain't pre-1980.
Maybe..jist maybe gas is under $2.50 a gallon in PA.
Maybe..jist maybe folks in PA don't care about obscene EXMO profits...or maybe gas is over $3.25 and EXMO's 1 qtr results will be out before PA primary
of course  the Clinton campaign provided direct proof of their allegation so this is a none issue..
By the way would someone provide the link(s)
that clearly establish this?

(oh yeah TEX..remind me..How did the final delegate count in your State go?)


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by nogo war on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 02:55:17 PM EST

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Give my moniker for Barry, Senator 'SnakeOil' a whole new meaning don't it?

How's that there 'change' thing workin' for ya Barry?

Sounds just like a been sayin' pal.

'More of the Same...'

Thanks, I think I'll pass on that.
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by Pericles on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 03:29:59 PM EST

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Excellent on passing on More of the Same! Glad to know you don't support Hillary Clinton.


by MNPundit on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 03:54:19 PM EST
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Ho hum. It must drive you guys crazy to see how successful Senator has been. Are we all just dupes? And how about Hillary's negatives being well over 50% - duped again?

It is so tiresome to read the non-stop attacks on the nominee.


by Shiloh on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 04:39:36 PM EST

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It is really, really amazing how little you guys know about EPACT 2005.  

Rather than account for alll the positives and negatives, let me just focus on one of the positives.

I run a building automation company.  Essentially, we retrofit commercial buildings to be more energy efficient.  EPACT 2005 provides businesses with a very healthy tax deduction to retrofit their lighting, HVAC and building envelope (i.e. insulation.)  This has resulted in a massive increase in business activity.  Energy efficiency is frankly the simplest, most painless way to abate greenhouse gases and reduce electricity transmission congestion.  It also means that I hire more union electricians and laborers, which is exactly the kind of promise that the "green" revolution engenders.

It wasn't a perfect bill but it was a good bill and frankly the best bill we were going to get out of a Republican congress.


by zadura on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 04:59:03 PM EST

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gotta say that im not that impressed with either candidate's so called "progressive policies" Im more so disappointed with obama. I figured he would be way more liberal than clinton, but his policies dont match that notion. as of right now im one of those undecided. obama and his supporters turn me off, you guys are so defensive and aggressive, and the media will make it impossible for clinton to get elected, eliminating her in the GE. the greatest disappointment has to be the DEMOCRATIC PARTY itself, the leadership is just awful. im switching to independent after this election. and im  almost certain i'll never vote for mccain.

looks like nader just picked up another vote.


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by amde on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 05:48:44 PM EST

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Good.  Take your vote and stupid opinions to Nader's site, please.


by zadura on Mon Mar 31, 2008 at 05:54:49 PM EST
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sadly this only reaffirms my opinions of obama supporters.


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by amde on Tue Apr 01, 2008 at 01:10:22 AM EST
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