Bosnian Vet Accuses Hillary of Valor Theft

Posted today on the Pennsylvania Progressive:

http://pennsylvaniaprogressive.typepad.c om/my_weblog/2008/03/bosnian-vet-acc.htm l

Tammi's father commented on post.  These people are a picture of character, courage, patriotism and selflessness and paint a stark contrast to a certain nominee whose name I don't want to honor by sharing this space.

The whole thing makes me furious.  We are better people than some political lifers would have us believe.

-chris

Bosnian Vet Accuses Hillary of Valor Theft

A veteran of Bosnia who was at the event in Tuzla where Hillary Clinton falsely claimed to have landed under sniper fire is accusing the Senator of theft of valor.  As General Walter L. Stewart Jr. of the Pennsylvania National Guard said earlier today on a conference call, soldiers who actually have been in war zones and performed under fire deeply despise those who falsely claim such valor.  They feel this way because it attempts to cheapen or make less, their real and actual valor.

The General pointed out "this wasn't an emergency resupply mission to the Alamo.  If there had been any danger that mission wouldn't have landed."  

Common sense tells us the First Lady and Chelsea would never have been put in harms way by our military.  Hillary's tale of bravery and valor, because it was false, is finding resentment among those who actually did serve and Tammi K. (nee Jann) Hertherington who was at Tuzla when Senator Clinton landed is one.  Here is her story.

Dear Sir,

I feel compelled to write to you in regards to Senator Clinton's remarks regarding her visit to Bosnia.

I was present at the base in question when the First Lady visited and am intimately familiar with the situation on the ground at the time. It strikes me as beyond misstatement or clarity of memory for Senator Clinton to suggest that this visit in any way compares with the reality of those of us serving in theater experienced or presented a threat to her or her daughter.

As a service person in the US Army, I was deployed to Bosnia immediately after the Peace Accord was signed and served there for eleven months in 1996. I was there at Tuzla Air base when the First Lady visited, and there was no sniper fire or anyone running under cover.  I saw both the First Lady and her daughter in our headquarters building (we called it the 'White House'). When I saw them in the lobby of our Headquarters neither her or her daughter had on the "Flak" vests which even we were required to wear at all times when not inside a building.

It was my fortune to be working in the Headquarter building as a Communications Specialist, and while I did go out to the ZOS (Zone of Separation) once and lived under "Full battle rattle" rules, I would never in any way compare my experience with those who daily risked their lives. That was the M.P.'s who went on daily missions trying to round up weapons and militant individuals who opposed the Peace Accord and the contract workers who aided the Multi-National forces in trying to rebuild the infrastructure (bridges, communication, water) that had been blown up. If, as I believe, it is improper for me to compare my involvement with those who took the bulk of the real risks it is even more improper for any visiting dignitary to compare their own for any reason, let alone for personal gain.

I am quite angry that what I and my fellow soldiers worked to achieve should be used as a playing card to build up a political nominee and tear down another.  This is not what those of us who actually risked our lives were working for, we were trying to maintain a Peace Keeping mission in a country that had  been ravaged by ethnic cleansing.  To trivialize the atrocities suffered by the real people I met in that country for political gain is beyond my ability to comprehend.  I met mothers who had lost their children and children who had lost their parents. The sheer leap of credibility that the First Lady would have brought her daughter into an active war zone is an insult to the people there who suffered more than real risk, they suffered real loss.

I did have contact with some of the general population on a daily basis. Many came to work for the Military in custodial capacities. Many carried all that they possessed in plastic bags every day. They brought their own food and cooked daily on little burner plates. I was constantly amazed at how upbeat and optimistic some of the people were in spite of things. It still is hard for me to think of Srebenica and all of the women who lost husbands, sons, and fathers because of religion and nationalistic fervor.

My father still works as a Civil Servant at WOMAK on Ft. Bragg, NC and a couple of years ago he met a Bosnian woman and her daughter, who had lived through the worst of it. They got to talking and found out that I had been over there and told him to tell me 'thank you' for what we had done. It still humbles me and chokes me up a little to know that even after all of these years there is appreciation for our past efforts.

I was simply a soldier doing my job in Bosnia and I believe in what we accomplished there.  I do not either want to make of my service more than it was nor to denigrate those who served with me and those who lived through more than any of us.  It seems to me that if I simply stand by while others "spin" their involvement for their own personal or political ambitions that I would be contributing to the slander of my fellows in arms and the people we were working to help in Bosnia, so I offer you my personal experience of the reality of the situation.  

To verify my story I have included a copy of an commendation I received for service in the Bosnian theater during that period. It would be my honor to provide you more of my perspective if it would serve to deliver the truth to the American people.

Best Regards,

Tammi K  Hetherington (nee Jann)

(formerly)

SPC
141 Signal Battalion, 22nd Signal Brigade, 1st Armored Division, US Army
Task Force Eagle


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Do you believe Sen. Clinton when she claims to have forgotten what it was like taking her daughter into a war zone?
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can you imagine (2.00 / 0)

What a campaign ad with this veteran essentially reading this letter would do to Hillary's candidacy if she were our nominee?


by highgrade on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 09:47:04 AM EST

Re: can you imagine (2.00 / 0)

You are very correct. I worried that something just like this was around the corner. I WILL vote for the Democratic nominee, but this harms HRC's chances in the GE.

Call this letter a swiftboat if you must, but it validates the Major General that spoke yesterday. I think that flag officer will give courage to more Tuzla veterans to come out of the woodwork.

I joined the Army under Bill, and defended him to my conservative counterparts . . . but there are MANY who didn't care for the Commander-in-chief that I respected.

Expect this to develop into a news cycle tomorrow.

I still say KUMBAYA in JULY!!


NO 100 year WAR, NO McConnell run Senate, & NO GOP-led Supreme Court!!!
by Veteran75 on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 09:53:40 AM EST
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Bill Clinton Made This Possible (2.00 / 3)

A certain president sent troops to a foreign country for humanitarian reasons, to save lives.  Not for oil, but to save lives.

And now you are using Bill Clinton's politically courageous action for a cheap political trick?

That is tawdry.


by katmandu1 on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 09:53:58 AM EST

I haven't heard (none / 0)

even ONE person, Democratic or Republican, try to use the Tuzla incident as a way to bludgeon Bill on his decision to go into Bosnia - nice try.

This is about the politics of the Tuzla "misstatement." Notice that the right wing hasn't even fully unloaded on Hillary for this story yet. This lie undercuts just about every single other issue on which Hillary plans to run. They will argue, quite effectively, that if she was willing to embellish/lie about Bosnia, there is no reason to give her the benefit of the doubt on Iraq, NAFTA, etc etc etc.


by highgrade on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 10:18:35 AM EST
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Re: Bill Clinton Made This Possible (2.00 / 1)

Not to mention that not one US military person died in the whole process.


by Scotch on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 01:23:51 PM EST
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Re: Bosnian Vet Accuses Hillary of Valor Theft (2.00 / 2)

Obama's campaign really thinks this rises to the same level as his 20-year relationship with Revernend Wright. Will the GOP try to use this Bosnian vet's letter in a swiftboat attack on Clinton? Of course. Will the GOP use Reverend Wright's statements against Barry "Barack" Obama? Absolutely. I'm just glad Clinton didn't step off that military transport in Bosnia and shout "God damn America!"
by zenful6219 on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 10:33:47 AM EST

Re: Bosnian Vet Accuses Hillary of Valor Theft (2.00 / 0)

I can't speak for anyone's campaign, but for me?

No, there would be no comparison between one nominee's church (which last I heard was separated from our State) and another's intentional, false, smiling use of the suffering, service and sacrifice of others to support the primary reason given for their qualifications.

No comparison at all.

You?


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by chrisblask on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 11:10:05 AM EST
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Re: Bosnian Vet Accuses Hillary of Valor Theft (none / 0)


 And BO went to the Virgin Islands to avoid the sniper fire. Very brave.
Wisdom Is The Reward For Listening Over A Lifetime
by gunner on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 12:18:14 PM EST
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Re: Bosnian Vet Accuses Hillary of Valor Theft (none / 0)

You folks just don't get it, do you?

Anything someone you are trying to destroy does is a reason to throw swill at them, is that it "gunner"?

Ever held a gun and been shot at by people trying to kill you and the others you are defending, or is that just a cool nickname to hide your face behind?

Sen. Obama - and Sen. Clinton - and Tammi Hetherington - and to the small extent I can, even I - have stood up and said their thoughts without hiding their identities.

Until you and the character assassins (though I doubt you are brave enough for that, in the Real World where actions have consequences) take responsibility for your words then they will have the value you put in them.

None at all.

-chris blask
chris@blask.org
941 201 8277


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by chrisblask on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 05:32:22 PM EST
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Re: Bosnian Vet Accuses Hillary of Valor Theft (none / 0)

Give me a break.  Such a mountain out of nothing.
So a military person doesn't want anyone to suggest there were bullets if there weren't.  And with Kerry, even if they really were shot at, hit, then they have to make sure the person didn't do it to themselves.  I am sick of the whining.  This is such a fucking small thing.  People such as Tammi will just have to deal with it.
by Scotch on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 01:21:54 PM EST

Re: Bosnian Vet Accuses Hillary of Valor Theft (none / 0)

How dare you belittle an actual soldier to defend outrageous statements by a politician?

I have heard MyDD is a Clinton Stronghold, but this goes beyond loyalty to your politician, this is about nothing less than the use of the work of people who live ande die for us to defend a politician's lie.

Is there nothing sacred to you?  Is it all just a matter of getting your Shiny Toy at all costs?

Did you bother to follow the link and see the comment by Tammi's father (also a military person) calling her 'my hero'? And since you no doubt did not bother to get that far off your padded, entitled keister before insulting people with more honor than you are likely ever to understand, who are you to judge anything?

Tammi Wetherington agonized about going public with this story but did so because it is the truth.  And she put her name to it.

This is my name, "Scotch", right here - Chris Blask - and this is my phone number - 941 201 8277.

If you have so much deep understanding about what people have to "just deal with" then you must be a Big Tough Man.

Well, Big Man, come out from behind your alcoholic nickname and say who you really are.

Or is your view of truth and honor to assail the people who lay down their lives for your ability to sit on your BaroLounger from behind the coward's shield of anonymity?

You and your ilk are what has driven myself and millions of other former Democrats to the right.  Barack Obama - due to his own form of bravery - has drawn me and millions of others back to vote for the Democrats again.

Grab a latte and a sneer and go criticize your neighbors and leave the serious issues to those who actually care.

-chris


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by chrisblask on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 05:25:57 PM EST
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Re: Bosnian Vet Accuses Hillary of Valor Theft (2.00 / 2)

You can make the sun shine and birds chirp, and a chorus sing in that video and Clinton would still have more foriegn policy exposure from that trip than Obama has from his whole non foriegn policy experience.  He didn't even meet to discuss the NATO force that was there defending the country when he headed the committee. What do the Bosnian forces think of that? Maybe he has looked at pictures in a book from there, or something.


by Scotch on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 01:30:05 PM EST

Coward (none / 0)

At least your candidate has the courage to stand up in public, though I am mad as a hornet at her about this.

You, sir, are a coward.  Please take your disgusting views and your tumbler of alcohol and go drink yourself quietly into a stupor where you can't hurt anyone.


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by chrisblask on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 05:27:57 PM EST
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