The McCain Doctrine

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John McCain is scheduled to deliver a major foreign policy speech Wednesday in Los Angeles, one with a heavy Iraq focus, but chances are, Democrats won’t be listening. They’ve already distilled his views into an easy-to-remember formulation: 100 years of war.

It is a reference to an offhand remark made by McCain in January about the possible duration of the U.S. presence in Iraq, a comment that Democrats now portray as the equivalent of the McCain Doctrine. [...]

Democratic strategists view the “100 years” remark as the linchpin of an effort to turn McCain's national security credentials against him by framing the Vietnam War hero as a warmonger who envisions an American presence in Iraq without end.

I wouldn't exactly say it was an "offhand" remark, however. McCain enthusiastically offered up the 100 years formulation at a townhall meeting, and since has expanded it to 1,000 and even 1,000,000 years to make the point that Americans will be fine with hundreds of years of being in Iraq as long as there are no US casualties. Really? Will they? I look forward to hearing him explain this from now until November because even though his explanation makes rational sense, every time he repeats it, it just reinforces the 100 years frame in people's minds. For this reason, some Democrats hope McCain's 100 years statement will prove to be election year gold.

Some Democrats see the “100 years” comment as this year’s equivalent of 2004 Democratic presidential nominee John F. Kerry’s infamous “I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it” remark — a statement that Republicans used over and over again to underscore their contention that Kerry was a liberal “flip-flopper.”

Kerry’s chief strategist in 2004, Tad Devine, said there are “similarities” between the "100 years" remark and Kerry’s $87 billion comment.

“It’s very easy to remember, No. 1. It’s also underlines a very important attack point that his opponents want to make,” Devine added. “And if McCain looks like he is backpedaling on anything and talking his way out of something, it totally undermines the centerpiece of his candidacy, that he is giving everybody a lot of straight talk."

But McCain isn't the only one who should be asked if he believes we should be in Iraq for 100 years. Every Republican who endorses McCain and/or appears with him, such as Chris Shays who roamed New Hampshire with McCain in January. The Jim Himes campaign put together this excellent video before McCain was the presumptive nominee that asks:

Does Congressman Chris Shays support an endless occupation of Iraq?

Watch it:

Let's make every endangered Republican answer this question and watch them try to distance themselves from their nominee; or if they won't, let them justify to America why they believe 100 years in Iraq would be just fine with them.



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John McCain won the Republican nomination because he's nuts on Iraq.  8 years ago he would have been a tough candidate, this year he's running against 2/3 of the country.  I'm going to love watching the Republican meltdown when they lose the presidency, some of the party will blame McCain for not being conservative enough, the other part will try to move in a more liberal direction, realizing they are hopelessly out of touch with the country.  Get the popcorn ready.

100 Years in Iraq (TM)

Spread the word...


by Skaje on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 07:01:50 AM EST

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My guess is that he will follow the example of his minder, Lieberman, and lie to the voters about his plans.  He will talk of Iraqis standing up, us standing down, accelerated training, etcs., all a lie.


by Bob H on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 07:33:57 AM EST

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Or maybe hint like Nixon in 1968 did about a "secret plan" to end the war?


by freemansfarm on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 07:55:15 AM EST
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Unfortunatley for Sen. McCain, he will not be running under conditons as favorable to him as they were to Nixon in 1968 (HHH mini-comeback or no HHH mini-comeback).


by spirowasright on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 02:43:14 PM EST
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I agree that McCain will not have the advantage that Nixon had. Namely, that the war was a Democratic war. This war is Bush's baby, and neither Democratic candidate will be compromised as HHH was in their opposition to it.

Nevertheless, I expect McCain to claim some sort of "plan" for ending the war. I doubt very much that he will run on the "Hundred Years War" platform. While it would be no more innovative than Nixon's "Vietnamizaton" (which Johnson was already implementing when Nixon took office), before the election, that will not necessarily be easy to prove.

I agree with the premise of the diary. I think the Democrat should just ignore whatever "plan" McCain says he is advocating, and just repeat over and over again that McCain says he wants a "Hundred Years War." Let McCain say he was in favor of such a war before he was against it. Let the Republican, for once, be in the position of trying to present a complex argument, while being met with a consistent chorus of "Na na ni na na, you said you wanted X, not you say don't want X, which is it, flip-flopper?"


by freemansfarm on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 02:54:37 PM EST
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John McCain is scheduled to deliver a major foreign policy speech Wednesday in Los Angeles, one with a heavy Iraq focus


It may be that this address is designed to be the opening salvo in a drumbeat for an attack on Iran.  Notice the way McCain has stuck with his counterintuitive  Al Qaeda-in-Iran formulation.  Notice too the way the US military has now declared that "rockets" (in addition to EFP roadside bombs) are a "signature" weapon of groups of the Mahdi army being supplied by Iran. If you accept that it follows that Iran is behind all the recent attacks on the Green Zone. 

Also there is the claim we have not chosen to break the cease fire because only members of the Mahdi army  being rounded up are those from the Iran-linked "special groups"  who have never observed the cease fire.

So then the question would be why has Al Sadr chosen to end the cease fire if only people who do not really listen to him are being targeted.  The fact that he probably is himself in Iran will be used to suggest he has become just a cat's paw of the Iranians who want to give America a black eye in Iraq.

If Petraeus together with Bush/Cheney/McCain have made a decision to generate a reason to attack Iran that could explain a decision to unleash Maliki et al. on the Mahdi Army.  They would not take much convincing given the approaching regional elections.

But even if the decision to start this crisis was made in Washington, that does not mean that we can control the outcome.  This ploy might work too well. Because if things really fall apart in Iraq Bush might suddenly find a very large amount of resistance in the US military establishment to the idea of attacking Iran.  It is one thing to follow the commander in chief and start a conflict that he orders but it is quite another thing to, at a time when you have 150,000 troops in the field at the end of a potentially vulnerable supply line to accept new orders which you feel puts those troops at significant and unnecessary risk.

If there are officers that feel that way perhaps the upcoming Petraeus report designed to bring us the good news about the surge would be a time to put some of them on the hot seat before congress and ask them under oath to tell us how they feel an attack on Iran would affect the situation of our forces in Iraq.


by Fred in Vermont on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 08:17:46 AM EST

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In fairness, we are still "in" South Korea, and we are still "in" Germany.  Depends on what the meaning of "in" is.


by WolfmanJack on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 10:09:33 AM EST

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Yes, but who wants to fund a permanent, "peaceful" base?


by rfahey22 on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 10:14:38 AM EST
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well, again, we do it all over the world, keep "peaceful" bases that is.  I don't know waht the bases in Korea or Germany cost, but the issue has never been really debated.  

Most people have trouble processing all these billions and billions of dollars.  A bar graph, comparing Iraq to everything else, maybe would be understandable.  But the numbers themselves are just too large to mentally process.

How many Americans even KNOW that one billion=one thousand million, or that one trillion= one thousand billion?  I would guess maybe 25% of the population. How to make less-educated Americans understand this?


by WolfmanJack on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 10:41:02 AM EST
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Yes, but in fairness the Koreas are still technically at war and the base in Germany is more of a staging area now for operations in the Balkans and the middle east.


by iowa dem on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 10:42:06 AM EST
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but isn't "staging area for operations in the middle east" applicable to Iraq? Especially if we remove our bases in Saudi Arabia.  

I would close all those bases and use the money for cancer research, if it were up to me, But obviously, it isn't up to me.

I am not agreeing with McCain, merely cautioning about being over-confident as to how this will play in November.  Three months ago, Democrats "couldn't possibly lose" now......we quite possibly will.


by WolfmanJack on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 10:54:51 AM EST
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President John McCain (none / 0)

No comments on JM and foreign policy, or any of the other positions he takes I strongly disagree with.

I don't think they seem to matter to most voters and many Democrats.

http://www.time.com/time/politics/articl e/0,8599,1725514,00.html  Hillary will take this on and on and on right into a miserable convention.  The superdelegates, who are able to act in concert right now for either candidate, are too fearful of the consequences, which makes them fairly useless.

Apparently, no matter what, the primary is going to last forever.  Democrats are going to vote for JM out of sheer pissiness, Clinton is going to do whatever it takes to make sure the ugliness of the primary stays front page the whole way.  We are going to lose.  We are.  There is no way of countering the current reporting of our chaos with McCain's low-key appeal and come out winning.  People are tired of the psychodrama.  At this point all I can do is watch and clench my teeth and think maybe we deserve this.


by mady on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 10:57:33 AM EST

Hillary wants to destroy the Democratic party (none / 0)


That much is clear. Mc-Cain will be our new president, no matter how many gaffes he makes. Hillary is intent to chase every low educated democrat into the arms of McCain with her race baiting (intelligent democrats no better and see trough it) so she can run again in 2012.

Its' up to both superdelegates and Democrats if she allows that to happen.


by Obamagirl2327 on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 11:31:33 AM EST

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So why don't you just roll over and play dead for Super-ULtra-invincible-unebeatable Mccain?
BTW Obamagirl527, I take you're supporting BHO.
You should have thought about this lat year, when he was getting ready to run.
Look at the bright side. The pony ride will be nice.

by spirowasright on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 03:04:34 PM EST
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McCain's counterargument that retreat and surrender is not an option is much better than the DNC argument for withdrawal.

Obama or Clinton should pick a winning argument before going into a debate with McCain in the fall.


by o2befree on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 12:18:41 PM EST

Posting you tube video's (none / 0)

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by anujtron on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 01:03:37 PM EST

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One of the things that made me want to pull my hair out about John Kerry was his inability to articulate simple ideas. "I voted for it before I voted against it" was only one of his horrible statements.

Any effective communicator would have been able to say something like "I voted for the troop funding, but then the Republicans added a lot of bad provisions that I couldn't accept."

One good thing about this year is that both of the remaining contestants for the nomination are sharp, effective communicators who won't take Republican attacks lying down.

(And yes, I know that each of them has flaws. Each one has strengths. This post is not an invitation for the fanatics and haters that have found this blog to launch.)


by anoregonreader on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 01:24:10 PM EST

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If you get your wish and McCain wins, he may do it in the mother of all "lonely landslides."


by spirowasright on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 03:19:53 PM EST


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