NYT Krugman: Obama slightly Clueless

Paul Krugman, the distinguished, progressive economist, is not particularly impressed with Obama's handle on how the war has shaped our economy.

Krugman is one of the few NYT regulars whose brains have not been swept off to the wondrous land of Obaphoria.

I hope that one of you with more time than I, can use his fine article for the diary that it deserves.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/24/opinio n/24krugman.html?_r=1&hp&oref=sl ogin



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A friend asked me what (2.00 / 3)

bothered me about Obama.  I offered my reaction to his answer to a question in a debate.  Someone asked him what his worst defect was, and he suggested he was disorganized (something Michelle had earlier indicated.)  I was unsure how to react.  On the one hand, I thought it was refreshing how direct he was about a serious defect.  On the other hand, I worried whether he was just too damned green to know what a serious deficiency disorganization is for someone who aspires to be president.  

I can see why Krugman thinks Obama is clueless.  His repeated gaffs build the case for it.


That's it, baby; let's go win this election!
by Beltway Dem on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 08:05:07 AM EST

At best, I think he will (2.00 / 0)

be a Ronald Reagan president, who will hopefully have the right people around him to do the work of the country.


by Bill Keaton on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 08:13:23 AM EST
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Re: At best, I think he will (none / 0)


That was GWB's line too.  

Do we really want another clueless president?


by moevaughn on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 10:15:07 AM EST
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Question on defects (2.00 / 0)

Do you remember the response of the other two people on the stage: Hillary Clinton and John Edwards? You seem to have very selective memory.


I am one of those latte liberals that Bill Clinton keeps bashing.
by ges69 on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 08:30:54 AM EST
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Yay! (2.00 / 0)

Krugman is back on the anti-Obama war path.

I wonder what job the Clintons (won't) give him when they (don't) win the nomination?


by Sinbad Sinbad on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 08:25:48 AM EST

Re: Yay! (2.00 / 4)

while i commend you for speaking your mind - are you suggesting that because krugman seemingly thinks clinton is a better candidate that the HRC will offer him a job?  if that's the case - then could you outline what positions BO will offer:

Chris Matthews
Chuck Dodd
Keith O
Andrea Mitchell
Jack Cafferrty
Jonathan Alter

There's way more - shall I go on?


"Democracy! Bah! When I hear that I reach for my feather Boa!" Allen Ginsberg
by canadian gal on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 09:08:42 AM EST
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Fluffers? (none / 0)


by rockemsockem on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 10:01:26 AM EST
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Lets get serious, folks... (none / 0)

All those pundits you mentioned are biased generally to our side, so why should we be suprised when they are biased one way or the other in regards to our candidates?

Obama has his, Hillary has hers...but they're all OURS.

:)


Until recently I was selling drugs, and now I'm selling Obama T-shirts.
by switching sides on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 12:28:41 PM EST
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Not Matthews or MItchell (none / 0)

unless you think having Swiftboaters on night after night was helping John Kerry get elected.


by Bill Keaton on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 11:24:24 PM EST
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Re: NYT Krugman: Obama slightly Clueless (2.00 / 0)

Well, it's great that from one line in Krugman's article you were able to fashion this eloquent diary. Well done.

By the way, I'd argue that Krugman (in his bias) is reading more into Obama's speech than was actually there. Obama didn't only "blame the war for our current economic mess." He pointed to the war as a major factor in the current mess. This was because he was giving back-to-back speeches about the war, one of which focused on its economic impact. But that's not the same thing as blaming the entire current economic fiasco on the war.


John McCain is a coward. He has no honor.
by vadasz on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 08:33:14 AM EST

Re: NYT Krugman: Obama slightly Clueless (none / 0)

I keep wondering why Obama continued voting to fund a war he "opposed" - until after he became a presidential candidate.
Do you know?
Hillary/Obama08
by annefrank on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 09:35:32 AM EST
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same reasons as Hillary (none / 0)

just a guess of course.


by rockemsockem on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 10:02:20 AM EST
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Re: NYT Krugman: Obama slightly Clueless (none / 0)

Um, . . . what does this have to do with Krugman's article?


John McCain is a coward. He has no honor.
by vadasz on Wed Mar 26, 2008 at 06:41:11 AM EST
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Re: NYT Krugman: Obama slightly Clueless (2.00 / 1)

I think how well the democrats can paint the link between the war and the economy is crucial to winning the presidency.  Face it, the masses have stopped caring about the war, there just isn't the outrage there was in 2006.  We put the f'n war on credit card... and it is critical that Americans link that with our current economic woes.  


by cgvcu on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 08:52:19 AM EST

To be fair to Krugman (2.00 / 1)

none of the candidates come off well in the column.  And McCain comes off not only clueless, but comatose.  

This column doesn't hurt either Dem more than the other - but I would like to hear from them more about the economy.  the natives are getting restless out here.  It is a scary economic time.

After listening and reading McCain et al's take on our economy - both Dems look good to me at any rate.  


by Xanthe on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 09:12:50 AM EST

Re: To be fair to Krugman (none / 0)

I wonder if anyone besides you and me went and actually read the article.  Krugman asks good questions about all 3 candidates.

Go read the article!


by Dave B on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 10:01:58 AM EST
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Re: To be fair to Krugman (none / 0)

Actually the most damning sentence was directed at the Clinton sdministration. Krugman is asserting that Bill sold us out and his deregulations lead to the current mess.  

In retrospect, it's clear that the Clinton administration went along too easily with moves to deregulate the financial industry. And it's hard to avoid the suspicion that big contributions from Wall Street helped grease the rails.

 


by JoeCoaster on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 11:23:54 AM EST
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Re: To be fair to Krugman (none / 0)

"went along too easily" - didn't put up a good fight.  is not the same as he sold us out.  I really don't know the history of the legislation; I'll have to get some history books.  Not the most damming - unless you're looking for it.


by Xanthe on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 02:52:25 PM EST
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Re: NYT Krugman: Obama slightly Clueless (none / 0)

Hmmm, tying the war to the economy is a very effective political move, yet Krugman criticizes Obama for it even as he admits that the war has indeed been a net negative for the economy.  

What exactly is the point of this column?  I like Paul, despite his obvious dislike for Obama, but this  really seems stupid to me.  Obama has never argued the war is "the" cause of our economic problems.  He's said it is "a" cause.  Krugman essentially agrees that's true.  What's the problem?  


by HSTruman on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 10:13:42 AM EST

Re: NYT Krugman: Obama slightly Clueless (none / 0)

hmmm Krugman has blamed Alan Greenspan for the current economy problems, just a few days ago HRC was calling for Greenspan to "step in and help rescue" the economy...

hmmm i wonder what Krugman has to say about that.


by jax8 on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 10:17:15 AM EST

Re: NYT Krugman: Obama slightly Clueless (none / 0)

That article isn't terribly complimentary of any of the candidates. In general, I've really enjoyed reading Krugman over the past few months, though.
Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 10:45:47 AM EST


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