Guidelines For Users

We do things a bit differently, like adults.

Here are the guidelines for the MyDD community:


  • Post as many comments as you like, but only 1-2 diaries per day. No single or two-line diaries--if it's a comment, put it in a comment thread. Don't clutter the diaries with foolish commentary on MyDD itself.

  • Do not troll rate  (rating as 0) another user's comment unless it is a comment that violates one of the guidelines. Abusing this privilege will result in all your ratings being erased and/or getting a warning or being banned.

  • 'Trusted users' are those users that have 'mojo' and are able to 'review hidden comments' and can rate any of those posts hidden by a '0' ranking. If a trusted user deems the post should not be hidden, they can 'rescue' the post with an up-rating.

  • Users who are excessively bashing the Democratic Party, or being Republican trolls, will be banned.

  • Users who are spaming the site with unrelated material or the like will be banned.

  • Users who are bashing or attacking any other user on the site, including authors of diaries and frontpage postings, will be banned. Candidates and politicians are fair game (but that doesn't mean you can use inflammatory language against candidates).

  • Titles of diaries should not be inflammatory, call out other users or the site, and will be deleted if not edited out. Likewise, users who cannot write comments without excessive inflammatory language will be banned.

The administrating of MyDD is a group effort, and unfortunately we will fail to have the time to notice every case of abuse of the guidelines.



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I think we should (2.00 / 1)

also make clear that comments or diaries that are divisive or demeaning on the basis of race, gender or sexual orientation have no place on a Democratic website.

We all need to be a part of the discussion in an environment of mutual respect.


k/o: politics and local blogs
by kid oakland on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 09:29:19 PM EST

Re: I think we should (none / 0)

"We all need to be a part of the discussion in an environment of mutual respect."

Good luck with that...


by SocialDem on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 09:57:34 PM EST
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Re: I think we should (none / 0)

That would be a nice start. Do you want to take responsibility for your side of the aisle?

If not why not?

Finally, these guidelines are essentially identical to those used elsewhere....

To no noticeable effect. I submit that big changes have to be made to prevent a repetition of the demise of dKos and other sites. I am have not spent a lot of time thinking about this but it's clear that things are changing for the worse in our community and I would think that.....

At the very least ideas and opinions about what should be done should be solicited from the community.

The era of the 'Big Men', see Robert Wright's Nonzero: The Logic Of Human Destiny for my reference, is over Kid; whether we devolve into warring clans led by 'Chieftains' or leapfrog to real civilization is in the balance.

One thing is sure things will not remain as they are with the 'Big Men' making the rules for the current 'Big Men' have demonstrated to all that they are incapable of doing so in a way that all approve of. And since by definition that is what a 'Big Man' does they've lost their position.

If I were Jerome or the others who are publishing this blog I'd recognize that the current format....

Has failed miserably.

And I'd stop worrying about Obama and Clinton and start worrying about the online progressive movement. Which I can assure you is far, far more important to the community and, indeed, America itself than whether Sister Beezlebub whips Senator SnakeOil or the reverse.

While they bloody each other McSame is laughing his head off and I for one wonder....

How did the 'sphere get to the point it has....just to elect McSame.

'Accountability' cannot be just for Republicans folks. Look in the mirror, look around and ask yourself how much good Kos, Bowers, Marshal et. al. have done for the progressive movement.

And then ask what you've done to help it advance as opposed to elect an individual.

What was that Henry Clay said?

Think about it.


by Pericles on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 04:00:41 AM EST
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Re: I think we should (none / 0)

Intriguing. But I have to think that wordplay like "McSame" is part of the problem instead of the solution.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 09:51:46 AM EST
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Re: What You Want Doesn't Exist (2.00 / 1)

they are incapable of doing so in a way that all approve of

No one on earth is capable of doing something that all approve of.  Your argument lost its credibility with that phrase.

These are blogs.  They have owners.  If you're not going to run your own blog the best you can do is look for an owner whose philosophy of blog operation most closely approximates your own and then post there.

If you chose to go to a blog run by someone you have serious differences with, be prepared to be unhappy there.


by creeper1014 on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 10:32:43 AM EST
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Re: Guidelines For Users (none / 0)

Question: Is there room for 'liberal' opposition within the Democratic Party when the party strays from it's liberal principals? Is there room for an Independent?

I will remain a liberal for the rest of my life and I would prefer to remain a Democrat as well. But if the party embraces black racism I will leave the party and become an Independent. But I will always remain a liberal.

Is there any place here for someone like me?


by Caliman on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 09:37:11 PM EST

Depends on what you mean (none / 0)

by "liberal" and "black racism."

The Democratic Party is experiencing an earthquake right now.  No one knows where the pieces will fall.  

I just intend to keep on truckin' and stop worrying about what others do.


by Radiowalla on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 09:56:49 PM EST
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Re: Guidelines For Users (none / 0)

I'm for no black racism and no white racism either.  In fact, no racism at all.

No sexism would be nice too.

***A


by adrienne4dean on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 10:32:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]

By black racism do you mean... (none / 0)

nominating Barack Obama?


by Erik on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 10:44:14 PM EST
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Re: Guidelines For Users (2.00 / 0)

What are these liberal principals that we're straying from?

There is room and a fainting couch on Fox & Friends for people feeling slighted by this "black racism" that your talking about.


John McCain defends Bush's Iraq strategy.
by recusancy on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 11:40:23 PM EST
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Re: Guidelines For Users (none / 0)

does anyonelse this this is an awfully funny post on a thread about civility?
 
by hctb on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 05:36:24 AM EST
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Re: Guidelines For Users (none / 0)

Phrases like that are the problem. I don't care what you say, you don't really believe the party is heading towards black racism. It's a ridiculous notion that completely ignores the reality of the situation.

Saying that Barack Obama would bring black radicalism to the mainstream is absurd, and no informed, sane person should say otherwise.


"Hey, check it out. You just had yourself a glue OD. So you're learning another lesson. Don't do too much glue, or your night sucks."
by vcalzone on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 09:57:03 AM EST
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Re: Guidelines For Users (2.00 / 2)

Thank you for this information. I confess I didn't fully understand the rating system.


If Hillary walked on water, she would be criticized for not swimming and if Obama swam, he would be lauded for being able to do what Hillary could not do.
by portia9 on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 09:44:13 PM EST

Re: Guidelines For Users (none / 0)

As has been noticed.


by Shaun Appleby on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 09:45:44 PM EST
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Re: Guidelines For Users (2.00 / 0)

Does everyone have the right to rate a post or is it only the trusted users?  I have no rating listed when I read the posts; only reply to user or reply to this/post.  Are ratings ever given back if they are taken away?  I would like to know?  How do you find out how you have been rated?  I could find no clear answer in FAQ area.

Thanks


by mcctx on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 09:54:57 PM EST

Re: Guidelines For Users (none / 0)

I have been posting for a few weeks now, and when I first signed up, I was able to rate.  However, that option is no longer there.  I got several 2 ratings when I first started posting.  I wonder why it was taken away from me.  I may have trolled someone only once but never zeroed anyone.  I would be interested in knowing why I lost the rating capabilities?


by mcctx on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 10:06:45 PM EST
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try changing your password (2.00 / 0)


-- be excellent to each other
by kindthoughts on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 10:56:54 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Guidelines For Users (none / 0)

Are you sure you are logged in?


by interestedbystander on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 12:44:50 PM EST
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Re: Guidelines For Users (2.00 / 0)

Weird.  I've been able to rate from day one.  

Maybe I'd better quit whining about admins.

Sorry, Jerome, Jonathan and Todd.  


by creeper1014 on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 10:49:12 PM EST
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Re: Guidelines For Users (none / 0)

A week or 10 days ago, my ability to rate and rec disappeared. (Ironically, I can still view HCs)

As far as I know, I have never abused rating and recommending, and consequently, that's fairly disappointing. It came immediately after I vehemently (but I think, politely) disagreed with points you made in an FP, and I took it as vindictiveness. (And a hint to leave, which I sort of intended to do, but I have an unnatural addiciton to playing Devil's Advocate, which is hard on a site where everyone agrees with you.)

Care to explain/condemn/ban?


by mattw on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 09:59:15 PM EST

Matt (none / 0)

The same thing appears to have happened to me. And I didn't, far as I can recall, write anything critical of Jerome (I generally agree with his posts). I'd like an explanation too, but I don't think you're being singled out because of your views.


by Shawn on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 10:11:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]

right (none / 0)

You're not the only one that this happened to.  I know of several who had the exact same situation starting about 2-3 days ago.


by diplomatic on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 10:14:40 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: right (2.00 / 1)

Try changing your password. It works like a reboot, I think.


by Caliman on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 10:16:40 PM EST
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Re: right (none / 0)

Thank you! It worked after I changed my password!

That fix was easy!


by mcctx on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 10:37:53 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Yeah (none / 0)

That worked.


by Shawn on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 10:47:07 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: right (none / 0)

Neat, thanks, that was it.


by mattw on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 11:17:36 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: right (none / 0)

I guess it happened to me too 2 to 3 days ago.

What`s up with that?


by mcctx on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 10:18:05 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Guidelines For Users (none / 0)

You might want to check which web browser you are using actually. I can rate posts if I use explorer but not if I use firefox.


Oh Mammy Dear, we're all mad over here livin' in America
by JDF on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 10:29:43 PM EST
[ Parent ]

firefox works just fine. (none / 0)


-- be excellent to each other
by kindthoughts on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 10:57:16 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: firefox works just fine. (none / 0)

It is just something I noticed. I don't know why it is working that way on my computer; but if it is happening to me it might be happening to others as well...and it might explain why some people are having trouble rating posts


Oh Mammy Dear, we're all mad over here livin' in America
by JDF on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 11:24:36 PM EST
[ Parent ]

do you have the latest version? (none / 0)


-- be excellent to each other
by kindthoughts on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 11:26:11 PM EST
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Re: do you have the latest version? (none / 0)

every once and a while Firefox decides that I have spent enough time on mydd and shuts down :), but i have no problems commenting with firefox.


by hctb on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 05:41:22 AM EST
[ Parent ]

I would like admins to delete (2.00 / 2)

those annoying one- or two-sentence diaries. That would probably get the diarists' attention.

I have tried putting in comments asking the diarist to delete the diary and copy the comment into an open thread, but they never do that.

There are too many diaries posted here that push other people's work down the screen too fast. It won't stop unless the diaries that make no contribution get deleted somehow.


Join the Iowa progressive community at Bleeding Heartland.
by desmoinesdem on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 10:04:09 PM EST

Re: I would like admins to delete (none / 0)

Yeah , with the current format, it is tough for a substance filled, but not currently hot topic diary to gain any traction. They get pushed out of sight by diaries full of verbal diarrhea.


by Pravin on Mon Mar 24, 2008 at 12:48:21 PM EST
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site traffic (none / 0)

must be increasing.


by Coldblue on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 10:04:29 PM EST

Re: site traffic (none / 0)

It's on the upswing, but not nearly as high as it's been in the past.

http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffi c_details/mydd.com

***A


by adrienne4dean on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 10:39:19 PM EST
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Re: Guidelines For Users (none / 0)

We do things a bit differently, like adults.

Differently, as compared to who?

Changing the topic - about how one becomes a
trusted user - I don't think the current system
is fair. As a HRC supporter, I became a TU very early in myDD, probably because more people rec'ed my stuff. I have been registered my MYDD for just a month or so I have perms to hide posts. OTOH, I have been a member at the Daily Obama for much much longer, but have perms only to rec. No perms to TR or Hide.

I think the opp will be true for BHO supporter.


by gaf on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 10:37:48 PM EST

I think (none / 0)

dkos has a higher threshold.


-- be excellent to each other
by kindthoughts on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 11:02:14 PM EST
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Re: I think (none / 0)

My DKos TU comes and goes. I don't comment much, but I do think the threshold is a bit higher and it doesn't last very long if you stop getting uprated.


www.thingsyoungerthanmccain.com
by LandStander on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 11:41:07 PM EST
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Re: Guidelines For Users (none / 0)

You can e-mail 'em using the "contact us" thingy at the bottom, but I haven't found admins responsive to problems.

They must be very busy.


by creeper1014 on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 10:40:09 PM EST

My privileges were taken away... (none / 0)

for giving a 1 rating and I didn't receive a warning. So I'll call bullshit on Jerome.


by Erik on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 10:46:37 PM EST

change your password? (2.00 / 1)


-- be excellent to each other
by kindthoughts on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 11:02:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: change your password? (2.00 / 0)

What's bizarre is - that worked for me, but when it happened, all my ratings disappeared too.


by mattw on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 11:19:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]

maybe some bug in scoop. (none / 0)


-- be excellent to each other
by kindthoughts on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 11:23:35 PM EST
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Re: Guidelines For Users (none / 0)

While we're on meta stuff, can you tell us how to get a rating in without having to return to the main post?  I keep assigning ratings to stuff and then forgetting to click "rate all".  Then, if I post a comment, all my unsent ratings disappear.  I know there must be something I'm missing.

Us newbies are sure a pain in the neck.


by creeper1014 on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 10:52:50 PM EST

what does it mean (none / 0)

"Don't clutter the diaries with foolish commentary on MyDD itself."?


-- be excellent to each other
by kindthoughts on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 10:53:08 PM EST

Re: Guidelines For Users (none / 0)

Thanks, Jerome.  

Still learning the ropes here.  I can't find much about HTML formatting.  I'd appreciate any suggestions on where to go.

Ummm...make that "where to get help".


by creeper1014 on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 11:12:18 PM EST

You guys run a nice site (1.00 / 1)

Too bad it came to this.

Everybody should go home a hoist a beverage of choice to their favorite candidate.  I know I am.  Being on the net most of the week is making me anxious.  I hope to come back with a fresh attitude come Monday. Peace.


by lisadawn82 on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 11:19:13 PM EST

Re: You guys run a nice site (none / 0)

I hear ya!!!

If it were not for my forced "sabatical" lol I would not get my daily does of MyDD and Lattes....


by el mito on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 11:33:29 PM EST
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Re: Guidelines For Users (none / 0)

Users who are excessively bashing the Democratic Party, or being Republican trolls, will be banned.

What implications does this have for the recent Fox News fan club that has taken form? That is a rhetorical question for all to ponder.

And so I'm not just being a smartass, here is a useful tip for users....

(blockquote)quoted text(/blockquote)

That is how you blockquote, except use < and > instead of ( and )


www.thingsyoungerthanmccain.com
by LandStander on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 11:55:40 PM EST

Racist Right Wing Trolls (2.00 / 1)

Reposting the same crap over and over, showing up a lot on dkos also. These guys travel in groups, and if you don't slap them hard, they'll try to take over.

Luckily they are generally stupid, cowardly, illiterate, neurotic compulsives, often with substance abuse problems, and I have no doubt that their mothers' dress them funny.

I spent a few weeks on conservative blogs just to  practice slapping them around.


by bernardpliers on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 12:15:53 AM EST

Jerome, does this line from the policy... (none / 0)

Users who are excessively bashing the Democratic Party, or being Republican trolls, will be banned.

... mean that folks here who write that they will not vote for the eventual Democratic nominee but will, instead, back McCain will be banned?


by Bob Johnson on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 01:02:04 AM EST

Re: Jerome, does this line from the policy... (none / 0)

I absolutely support this idea. To me, somebody saying they're going to vote for McCain is the same as somebody posting laudatory comments on a
Republican candidate.
by Baltimore on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 12:03:40 PM EST
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Re: Guidelines For Users (none / 0)

In my opinion, it would be better if the rules were made a little clearer. Just about anything negative said about a candidate can be considered "inflammatory" by one of his or her passionate, committed supporters.

Also, maybe it would be better if only the administrators had the right to hide comments. Instead of a "zero" rating, users could push a button that reported violations of the rules to the administrators. Then they could take whatever action they felt was apppropriate (hiding the comment, or not; warning, suspending or banning the user). I don't want to be a cop and a judge or jury, and I don't like giving negative ratings, not even "1's," and so I don't ever give them. But now I feel bad because it seems that Jerome and the other site officers want us to do to hand them out.

I also don't want to be the court of appeals and review zero ratings to see if they were really deserved or not. But again, I now feel bad because it seems that I am "supposed" to do this, and I don't. Nor do I want to get into "wars," with one "side" giving a comment mojo, while the other "side" is giving the same comment "1's" or even zeros.

Frankly, while getting and giving mojo can be fun, I find the whole rating thing to be a little uncomfortable. What if someone gives me mojo, but I don't think his or her posts are that good? Should I give that person mojo back or not? And, if not, can't that lead to hard feelings? What if someone puts a lot of time, effort, and work into a post, and thinks it's really good, but then no one gives them mojo? Doesn't that make that poster feel bad? The whole thing starts to seem like a high school popularity contest.

On other boards I have been on, there were no ratings, and only board members were protected from personal attacks, public figures (like candidates) were fair game, and, besides that, only the standard (no spamming, sock puppets, copyright infringements, threats of violence, breach of privacy of other users, etc.) rules applied. I realize, given the purpose of this site, that we also need the no excessive attacks on Democrats/no excessive praise of Republicans rule.

But the administrators could enforce these rules, and leave the rest to do what we are here to do, which is talk about politics from a Democratic party perspective.


by freemansfarm on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 01:15:30 AM EST

Re: Guidelines For Users (none / 0)

I have great respect for the openness of your site. Please don't become the thought police, like other sites have become.

I shall do my best to respect and follow your guidelines. I care deeply about taking the right steps toward November.


by LP from MD on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 01:31:52 AM EST

Re: Guidelines For Users (none / 0)

Could you expand on what you mean by excessive bashing of the Democratic Party?  Obviously there must be some subjective aspects of this policy but hopefully there are some clear guidelines on any content that could get you banned.  And surely we don't want to make users think that they cannot desent at all with any of the Democratic leaders and therefore not freely debate any issue they feel is important.
So maybe the administration could clarify what is considered inappropriate in reference to any disagreement with other Democrats.
by goodleh on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 01:57:08 AM EST

Troll ratings: my simple policy (none / 0)

I only troll rate when someone has made a direct personal attack against another poster or a diarist, or made some really odious comment that doesn't advance a position or argument as much as just snipes in general.

I got troll rated yesterday for asking for someone to provide a direct quote in order that they might demonstrate a point of fact.  

That was funny.


I'm only a click away
by juliewolf on Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 08:35:06 AM EST

Re: Guidelines (none / 0)

What's diff between zero and one?  This post says O is troll; but where you click, it says one is a troll and zero is hide.  Also, what's the diff between troll and hide?


by moevaughn on Tue Mar 25, 2008 at 12:07:59 PM EST

Seven words you can't say on MyDD? (none / 0)

If certain infamous words are off limits here at MyDD, I'd appreciate it if you'd spell it out.

I raise this issue because I apparently just got a warning for the sentence "But there ain't no pony, just a pile of horse[bleep]."  Only with the S-word instead of the bleep.

The owner of a blog can, and should, set whatever standards s/he pleases for commenters.  Jerome, if you want to ban some subset or superset of the Carlin Seven, I'm fine with that.  But that's gotta be one of the easiest things to say explicitly in a set of rules, so I'm puzzled as to why not.


by RT on Fri Mar 28, 2008 at 09:14:37 AM EST

Re: Seven words you can't say on MyDD? (none / 0)

I should add that it's a particularly relevant question since "The Big [Bleep]pile" seems to be the official blogospheric name for the mess of CDOs and SIVs and whatnot that's screwing with the credit markets right now.


by RT on Sat Mar 29, 2008 at 07:48:11 AM EST
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