Barack Obama's Passport File Breached

From a CNN alert:

The State Department says security on Barack Obama's passport file has been breached, campaign officials tell CNN.

DailyKos diarist Scoopster has more via Keith:

The Dept. of Justice has launched an investigation into the compromising of Sen. Obama's passport data file by two contract employees at the State Department.  A third has been disciplined for accessing the information without necessity.

Cycloptichorn has more in the diaries:

Keith is citing a release from State that the breach occurred on three different occasions, on 9 January, 21 February and 14 March.  They also are saying there is no political motivation behind this breach, it was "...simply curiosity..."

Ah, sure, what's a little benign snooping among spooks? No biggie. How pathetic.

The Obama campaign took the opportunity to slam the Bush administration for presiding over a government that breaches citizens' security rather than protecting it.

"This is an outrageous breach of security and privacy, even from an Administration that has shown little regard for either over the last eight years. Our government's duty is to protect the private information of the American people, not use it for political purposes. This is a serious matter that merits a complete investigation, and we demand to know who looked at Senator Obama's passport file, for what purpose, and why it took so long for them to reveal this security breach," Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton said in a statement.

Nice.

Update [2008-3-20 21:3:16 by Jonathan Singer]: You think this was the first time that a Bush State Department was caught spying on a Democratic presidential candidate? Think again. Here's The New York Times Robert Pear in November 1992:

A State Department official who carried out the two-day search of passport files for information about Gov. Bill Clinton said today that he had resigned, just 48 hours before Federal investigators are expected to issue a report criticizing the search.

The official, Steven M. Moheban, was a top aide to Elizabeth M. Tamposi, the Assistant Secretary of State for Consular Affairs who was dismissed last week by President Bush for her role in the search of files on Mr. Clinton, his mother, Virginia Kelley, and Ross Perot, the independent Presidential candidate.

[...]

Ms. Tamposi has said that White House officials encouraged the search of Mr. Clinton's records and that her superiors approved it. The inspector general has interviewed White House officials. But it is not clear whether he will assign any responsibility for the search to senior officials at the White House and the State Department, or will merely focus on Ms. Tamposi and lower-ranking employees.

Is this really the we do things in the United States?

[editor's note, by Todd Beeton]I had updated the post with info from Cycloptichorn's diary -- restored above -- but it got lost in the updating madness. Sorry about that.



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Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (2.00 / 1)

"acting" Inspector General feels its been handled already.

Sure... because in this administration, why would we need a real Inspector General.


by zonk on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 08:57:41 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

The staff shifts so much...


"Behold, I send you out as sheep amidst the wolves! Therefore, be as wise as a serpent, And as harmless as a dove."
by Setrak on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 08:58:41 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

Shifts or is shifty?


by zonk on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:03:16 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

shifty, or shitty?


Being Normal is for the Mediocre.
by Doug Tuttle on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:04:43 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

heh.

You win.


by zonk on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:05:45 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

Why must we choose?


by rfahey22 on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:09:24 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

What sort of banana republic is this?


by rfahey22 on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 08:57:47 PM EST

Time for Hilary Clinton to show some leadership (none / 0)

This is an opportunity for Hilary Clinton to show some leadership and moral courage. She should immediately come to the aid of Obama, the Democratic Party and all those who love and defend our constitutional right of privace.

Hillary should immediately and forcefully condemn this repeated breach of privacy and the lack of sufficient management action to prevent the second and third breach, and she should make a strong statement using this pattern of criminal negligence (at best) to raise the publics awareness of the need to fight the administration on FISA.
by xtrarich on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 03:56:33 AM EST
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Democrats should pay heed. (2.00 / 1)

This happened to Clinton in '92.  MSNBC, CNN, even Fox has the story.  Washington Post, Boston Globe, I bet the Times has it now..


"Behold, I send you out as sheep amidst the wolves! Therefore, be as wise as a serpent, And as harmless as a dove."
by Setrak on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 08:57:58 PM EST

Deja vu all over again (2.00 / 1)

How well I remember the flap when Bill Clinton's file was breached in 1992.
.
They were looking for proof of allegations that he went to play footsie with the Soviet Union in the 60's.  

What does this mean for the 2008 campaign?  Probably not much.
Americans have become numb to privacy invasions.


by Radiowalla on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:00:34 PM EST

Re: Deja vu all over again (2.00 / 1)

doubt it.  Gonna be BIG.


by a gunslinger on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:01:51 PM EST
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Re: Deja vu all over again (none / 0)

if there's STRONG evidence linking this to clinton, (which i doubt) okay, otherwise occams razor would say it was either the idiocy or the gall of the Bush administration.


Being Normal is for the Mediocre.
by Doug Tuttle on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:54:03 PM EST
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Re: Deja vu all over again (none / 0)

McCain has a hell of a motive.


And so, may evil beware and may good dress warmly and eat lots of fresh vegetables.
by thatpurplestuff on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 10:38:40 PM EST
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Re: Deja vu all over again (2.00 / 1)

I hope BOTH Clinton and Obama make this a big issue.

It's been so hard to traction with public on FISA and such... THIS is what brings it home to America.

Perhaps we SHOULDN'T be giving our government the right to run roughshod over our privacy!


by zonk on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:02:45 PM EST
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'91 will be cited (none / 0)

There must be an independent counsel investigation.

Calling PAtrick Fitzgerald....


Bill Foster would agree, Barack Obama has coat tails.
by Walt Starr on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:42:38 PM EST
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Re: '91 will be cited (none / 0)

Fitzgerald is overrated.  Great prosecutor, but let's face it- Scooter Libby was a wash.


"Behold, I send you out as sheep amidst the wolves! Therefore, be as wise as a serpent, And as harmless as a dove."
by Setrak on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:44:33 PM EST
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Re: '91 will be cited (none / 0)

I don't know about that.

He's been cleaning up Illinois to a degree I never thought possible.

It's quite likely he might get put another governor's scalp on his mantle.

He's been pretty phenomenal here in the IL Northern district when it comes to prosecuting corruption... I have some other issues (civil liberties, mainly) on some other office prosecutions, but when it come to go after dirty pols in our state, no one's done it better.

In fact - any IL Democrat that hasn't been under a Fitzgerald investigation has to be pretty clean... He's gone after everyone -- GOP and Dem.


by zonk on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:48:05 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (1.00 / 1)

Barack is on Larry King trying to do damage control about blocking the MI and FL re-dos. He is sounding much more humble and conciliating - "We will be united in November"  Interesting.  Sorry this doesn't deal with subject of diary.  I just thought it was interesting.


by badu on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:07:22 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

Barack is on Larry King trying to do damage control about blocking the MI and FL re-dos.

I've asked several other bloggers who have made this same claim today to back it up with a shred of fact. So far, nothing but silence.


The choice is simple: A President who voted for the worst of Bush's odius agenda, or one who didn't.
by Liberal Avenger on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:29:29 PM EST
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NO ONE TRY to BLAME HILLARY! (2.00 / 4)

That would be offense, stupid, an JUST as UNWORTHY as attacks on Obama being at Trinity are.  

Let's get the facts before any accusations are lobbed.


by a gunslinger on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:08:37 PM EST

HEAR HEAR (none / 0)

Are we that far gone that we no longer recognize that the right answer is usually the simplest?

We have an administration that treats the federal government like their own private Pinkerton agency.

Bush's "benefit of the doubt" account is overdrawn.  

Until he proves otherwise, these are GOP operatives conducting dirty tricks.

I don't trust a single word out of ANYONE from this administration.

Independent counsel.  Period.


by zonk on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:10:52 PM EST
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Re: HEAR HEAR (none / 0)

If it was Bushies there'd be no record of the search. If it's really junior employes, they could have been looking for something to peddle to reporters.




Democratic Candidate, US Senate, Wisconsin 2012
by benmasel on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:48:17 PM EST
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Re: NO ONE TRY to BLAME HILLARY! (none / 0)

on the one hand i find it strange that you would have to say this, i mean how could hillary be responcible for this?  on the other hand, i, sadly, can see that some nut-nuts on the obama side would try to make that argument.  what comes after the silly season in politics, the lunatic season?


Being Normal is for the Mediocre.
by Doug Tuttle on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:11:27 PM EST
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Re: NO ONE TRY to BLAME HILLARY! (none / 0)

I am a STRONG Obama guy, but I have little appetite to try to pin this on her campaign.  Obama WILL be the nominee, our camp doesn't have to resort to flailing attacks.

It would be truly stupind ti minimize this breach by trying to attach it to Clinton.


by a gunslinger on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:16:53 PM EST
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Re: NO ONE TRY to BLAME HILLARY! (none / 0)

The story is not in yet. One of the three may be linked to Clinton--so far. MSNBC

I don't take anything of face value these days.


by anothergreenbus on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 11:28:02 PM EST
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Re: NO ONE TRY to BLAME HILLARY! (none / 0)

This is all about George Junior following in his daddy's footsteps.


Bill Foster would agree, Barack Obama has coat tails.
by Walt Starr on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:43:30 PM EST
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THREE times (2.00 / 1)

That's the issue.

Why did it take until the THIRD TIME to notify Obama?

I mean... what... did they want to triplecheck and make sure they didn't miss anything the first 2 times?

I think we need to know the names of who accessed the information.

The official is calling it "imprudent curiosity".

OK... fine.. it's illegal.  Let's have the names of the criminals so we can see exactly WHO had 'imprudent curiosity', and whether they might have friends and associates who shared that 'imprudent curiosity'.


by zonk on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:08:43 PM EST

Re: THREE times (none / 0)

How was this made public?  Who leaked it?


"Behold, I send you out as sheep amidst the wolves! Therefore, be as wise as a serpent, And as harmless as a dove."
by Setrak on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:11:28 PM EST
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Re: THREE times (none / 0)

Im not sure that they "notified" Obama...that is because they were doing the right thing..I understand that the news was breaking.

I am shocked...dismayed.


by a gunslinger on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:12:03 PM EST
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Re: THREE times (none / 0)

i thought rove left the whitehouse.  this has his stench all over it.


Being Normal is for the Mediocre.
by Doug Tuttle on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:13:22 PM EST
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Re: THREE times (none / 0)

Exactly.

A 'contract employee'... gee... it wouldn't be above this administration to hand jobs to friends, but also maintain their plausible deniability by claiming "Oh, it's just a 'contract worker'".

This stinks to high heaven.


by zonk on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:15:43 PM EST
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It;s never the crime (none / 0)

It's always the cover up.

Give the GOP enough rope and they'll shoot themselves in the foot.


Bill Foster would agree, Barack Obama has coat tails.
by Walt Starr on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:44:24 PM EST
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What a gift? (2.00 / 1)

just when Obama needed to turn the narrative to D.C. Corruption, lobbyists, and campaign tactics.  


Bring Back MyDD - Just say No to Rec'ing Candidate Diaries.
by CardBoard on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:11:01 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

Ah-ha.

According to what we're hearing now -- the IG can no longer even INTERVIEW the already fired employees.

We need the names.  We need to know who was fired.  We need to know who they are.

This administration cannot be trusted to make the judgment of what was "imprudent curiosity" and what is more nefarious.  No way.  No way.

Someone else, not selected by this administration, needs to make that judgment.

Independent Counsel.


by zonk on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:13:24 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

i hear the whitehouse has someone in mind.  his name is Smarl Smove, and he has a lot of experience in this sort of thing. From what bush says, he's VERY trustworthy.


Being Normal is for the Mediocre.
by Doug Tuttle on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:15:31 PM EST
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Two Months (none / 0)

Why did it take more than two months to notify Obama?

This doesn't pass the smell test.

Independent Counsel time.


Bill Foster would agree, Barack Obama has coat tails.
by Walt Starr on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:14:07 PM EST

Re: Two Months (none / 0)

Absolutely.

Now that two of the employees were already fired - the IG cannot even legally INTERVIEW them.

Independent Counsel.


by zonk on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:17:04 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

I'm very angry about this. How dare they breach Obama's files like this.


by ListenNOW on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:15:38 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (1.00 / 1)

How long before we hear calls from the 'bots that Clinton had a mole in the State Department to do this?

Oh shit...it ALREADY happened! Gotta give them props for timeliness....


by need some wood on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:18:33 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

oh for the bloody love of.  you're right NSW, that guy's an idiot (not being snarky or sarcastic).  this is NOT about hillary, this is about BUSH, and their continued use of Rovian tactics.


Being Normal is for the Mediocre.
by Doug Tuttle on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:20:41 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

well I agree, it's not about her, so I would hope that the fanatics don't come out claiming it is.

what happened is outrageous, and it should be focused squarely on the current REPUBLICAN administration.


by need some wood on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:23:18 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

hell, they are probably doing the same to Hillary ...they did it to Bill. The bush boys have this problem with meddling on behalf of the GOP.

All dems should unite to condemn this and call for a full investigation to ensure that they are not doing it to Obama or Hillary.

This is about the Bush cartel gang..McCain is next in line..must be united to defeat them.


by hawkjt on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 04:20:10 AM EST
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Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

Both groups have their inner circles and their outer (very outer) circles...


by rfahey22 on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:20:58 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

wonder what kind of tinfoil they use for their hats?


Being Normal is for the Mediocre.
by Doug Tuttle on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:21:56 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

Actually, that's the unity ticket right there.  All of the conspiracy theorists and smear merchants agree on Reynolds Wrap.  


by rfahey22 on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:25:49 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

Roundly ridiculed by commenters.


by Bee on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:22:03 PM EST
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Did you see KO (none / 0)

As I flipped channels I caught the breaking news on this and there was Howard Fineman pointing out that these were contract employees and we don't know what connections to democratic campaigns they could have.

Geez.


by Judeling on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:32:25 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

Oh, please... Like Hillary's got that kind of juice.  Stop, just stop.
It is obvious that Obama has been very vocal about the failure of the Iraq War and made comments about Bush and McCain and it has pissed off BabyBush and DarthCheney.

It is the Republicans looking for more ammo against Obama.  And they are getting their ducks in a row for Hillary too.

I know the Obama followers like to think Hillary is the anti-Christ.  She's not.

DarthCheney is.


by stefystef on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 10:07:27 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

I've heard the Republicans also have a candidate in the race who very much wants to win. I would imagine that others in the Bush Admin want him to win also. I think it makes more sense to pin it on Republicans who are assuming he will be the nominee.
by Becky G on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 10:10:10 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

Please stop saying that any dem is involved. You will look silly in a couple of days. No rush to judgement other than we know bushco is perfectly capable and has access.

I am a strong supporter of Barack Obama and it is unfair to assume anything about anyone other than bushco.. them..fire away.


by hawkjt on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 04:23:58 AM EST
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Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

The fact that you, as a fellow Democrat, have the nerve to say this is very upsetting to me, and many other Obama supporters.


Oh Mammy Dear, we're all mad over here livin' in America
by JDF on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 11:35:37 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

David Schuster reports that the Inspector General didn't learn about this till TODAY.

Woah


by Cycloptichorn on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:20:21 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

Really? That's astonishing, if true.


by wolff109 on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:32:55 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

That's what they say.

There was never a debriefing of any of those employees; they basically have no information about what happened to this info, if it was spread, or anything.


by Cycloptichorn on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:37:31 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

And that's the problem.

The first two accessors -- who were apparently fired -- we have NO IDEA what they were doing.

The IG has not -- and now cannot -- since they are no longer working for the government.

We have the word of 'mid level' Bush administration managers that it was just 'imprudent curiosity'.

Riiiigghhht...

Does anyone HONESTLY trust some flunkie in the Bush Administration to be truthful?   Please.  His own damn staff and cabinet cannot even be trusted... and we are supposed to trust someone that cannot even rise to that level?


by zonk on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:38:26 PM EST
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What did Condi know (none / 0)

What did Condi know, and when did she know it? Why were 3 incidents allowed? Was the motive political?

Let's make sure the media doesn't drop this issue until these and other questions have been fully addressed.


by wolff109 on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:25:52 PM EST

Good lord (none / 0)

it gets worse.

The IG NEVER EVEN TALKED TO THE FIRED EMPLOYEES - and now cannot do so.

Others in state fired them - it just HIT the IG.

How can this NOT deserve an Independent Counsel?

We know nothing -- NOTHING -- about the first 2 accesses except the word of a "mid level" manager within the Bush administration.


by zonk on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:27:51 PM EST

Not About HRC...but Clearly the GOP Believes ... (none / 0)

...that Obama is STILL going to be the nominee.  They are flailing.  Between this and the endless propping up of Hillary... they clearly want to get Obama OUT...so they can run against HRC.


by a gunslinger on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:28:52 PM EST

Re: Not About HRC...but Clearly the GOP Believes . (none / 0)

The Repugs can run against Hillary or Obama, they will STILL LOSE!


by stefystef on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:53:28 PM EST
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Re: Not About HRC...but Clearly the GOP Believes . (none / 0)

amen


Being Normal is for the Mediocre.
by Doug Tuttle on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:54:37 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Eagleburger: 1992 incident was worse (none / 0)

Former Secretary of State Lawrence Eagleburger on Dan Abrams MSNBC just commented that the 1992 incident was much worse than the recent Obama incident.

He elaborates that the 1992 incident was instigated by political appointees specifically investgating Bill Clinton's passport for political ammunition. He does not believe that this is the case regarding this incident.

How does he know? Does he know more than us? Or is he already engaging in spin control, trying to downplay the incident?


by wolff109 on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:31:49 PM EST

Re: Eagleburger: 1992 incident was worse (none / 0)

What the former Secretary of State is citing is the fact that these people were contractual workers.  Don't you love privitization?   However, who ARE these contractors, who do they work for?   Three separate times until action was taken?  They have the "three strikes" rule going on over there?


"Behold, I send you out as sheep amidst the wolves! Therefore, be as wise as a serpent, And as harmless as a dove."
by Setrak on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:37:55 PM EST
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Re: Eagleburger: 1992 incident was worse (none / 0)

Spin control.  He's looking out for sonny boy.


by Cycloptichorn on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:38:00 PM EST
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Re: Eagleburger: 1992 incident was worse (none / 0)

Larry didn't sound "with it" enough to look for his own doublechin.


by zonk on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:42:45 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (2.00 / 1)

It may be nothing more than 2 Kelly temps who were hired to data entry information into the system who went where they were not authorized to go and were summarily fired.  Wait for all the facts before Keith turns Obama into a "martyr" again.  As the story is unfolding, one of the temps had the same birthday as Obama and wanted to see what was in his travel file.  Could be all that this is.  I worked in a hospital and this happened all the time with people just being nosy.  Look at what happened to 13 staff members of the hospital where Britney stayed.  All fired.


by Pat J on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:36:01 PM EST

Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

They didn't pass it up the line.  Somewhere in the middle, it was either stupidly hushed up or intentionally hushed up.  This means that there is a tremendous amount of development in this story left to go.

The WORST is monumental incompetence, the best could implicate a hell of a lot of people with a crime.


by Cycloptichorn on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:39:31 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

Spinning already? You don't know jack yet. The fact that you immediately start spinning says a lot about your intellectual honesty.


by anothergreenbus on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 11:34:37 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

It may be.

After 7 years -- are you ready to give THIS administration the benefit of the doubt until the facts are out?

Maybe they were checking Obama's file for WMDs.


by zonk on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:39:31 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

Let's forget about Obama as a candidate.  Let's think of him as a Democrat.  I say that because we shouldn't politicize this.  This could be serious.

It happened once in January, once in February, and once in March.  We are only hearing about it now, and it doesn't sound like the Justice Department was the one that disclosed this.

I haven't actually heard when they were fired in relation to when each of them went through his personal information.


"Behold, I send you out as sheep amidst the wolves! Therefore, be as wise as a serpent, And as harmless as a dove."
by Setrak on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:43:16 PM EST
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Curiosity? I doubt it. (none / 0)

3 separate independent contractors look into his file just b/c they can't help themselves?  What are the chances?  BTW, they didn't look into any of the other candidates files so I guess they were all curious about just Obama?  That's a stretch, not impossible, but a stretch.


This administration is not sinking. This administration is soaring! If anything, they are rearranging the deck chairs on the Hindenburg!
by venavena on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:38:22 PM EST

Re: Curiosity? I doubt it. (none / 0)

Excellent point.

Shuster sez that there are clear and present warnings about the felony nature of looking at this information popped up on the screen when you look at the files.  Hard to believe that it was mere stupidity.


by Cycloptichorn on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:41:34 PM EST
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Hillary Should Strongly Condemn Passport Breach (none / 0)

I think Hillary should have a news conference tomorrow where she says that just Bill Clinton's passport was scooped in 1992 now that it happened to Obama in 2008 it is just as bad.

Looks good; promotes Dem unity


by chatters71 on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:44:54 PM EST

Re: Hillary Should Strongly Condemn Passport Breac (none / 0)

That's a good idea.  Hillary should say something because they are going to breech her Passport too.


by stefystef on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:49:52 PM EST
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Re: Hillary Should Strongly Condemn Passport Breac (none / 0)

They already have.  Bill's too.  But it never caused this kind of uproar.....


by miriam on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 10:47:20 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

Are we doing things like this in America?

You better believe it, baby.


by stefystef on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:49:05 PM EST

FISA FISA FISA FISA (none / 0)

Would a smart Democrat, preferably our two smart Presidential candidates, please, PRETTY PLEASE use this as a springboard to make the whole FISA debate more than just something 'those silly liberal bloggers' care about?

That's been my single biggest disappointment with Obama - I'm a long time, card-carrying ACLU member.

FISA is a BIG DEAL to me.

This brings it all home -- this is EXACTLY why Americans should not ever have to just 'trust' the people running our government.  It's why we have laws and why even PRESIDENTS must follow them when it comes to our personal info, our privacy, and our communications.

Damn Harry Reid if he doesn't have a press conference tomorrow apologizing for being a pussy on FISA.


by zonk on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:53:11 PM EST

TPM (2.00 / 1)

does the chronology.


Nuggets

A few more details about the Obama passport breach. According to a new piece out in the Post from Glenn Kessler, the breaches occurred Jan. 9th, Feb. 21st and March 14th.

That would be the day after the New Hampshire primary, the day of the Democratic debate in Texas and the day the Wright story really hit.

OK.

So now it's not just idle or imprudent curiosity -- now it's coincidental curiosity.


by zonk on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 09:59:07 PM EST

Re: TPM (none / 0)

huh, they only "snuck a peek" on days when he did poorly, with the exception of the tx debate, weird.  if this was after iowa, south carolina, and wisconsin it would seem obvious someone is terrified of him, but this, this is just odd.


Being Normal is for the Mediocre.
by Doug Tuttle on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 10:04:23 PM EST
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Re: TPM (none / 0)

actually it makes a lot of sense... find something on a day when he is already on the defensive and not at his best and try to take him out.


Oh Mammy Dear, we're all mad over here livin' in America
by JDF on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 11:28:57 PM EST
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time to chimpeach (none / 0)

finally, we may have an excuse to investigate and end this Obama controversy. I wanted Clinton for the nomination, but I don't want either destroyed for the purpose of guaranteeing November.


"there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right in America"-William Jefferson Clinton, forty-second President of the United States
by DiamondJay on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 10:06:15 PM EST

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Folks, you forget the shenanigans with Clintons.....they were masters of breaching personnel files, fbi files etc.....all in an attempt to smear others.....thsi sint a Bush things its happned in virtually every white house....lest we forget how the Kennedy;s spied on MLK?


by adbct on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 10:25:56 PM EST

What a bunch of recycled wingnut (none / 0)

talking points!  The Clintons never used the FBI files for political purposes and were completely  exonerated from any wrongdoing whatsover.

From Wikipedia :

Starr exonerated both President Clinton and the First Lady of complicity in the FBI files matter, saying "while there are outstanding issues that we are attempting to resolve with respect to one individual [we] found no evidence that anyone higher [than Livingstone or Marceca] was in any way involved in ordering the files from the FBI. Second, we have found no evidence that information contained in the files of former officials was used for an improper purpose."

Nice try but no luck!


by Radiowalla on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 12:14:52 AM EST
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Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

Thanks Todd!


by Cycloptichorn on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 10:27:05 PM EST

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Yawn... Americans don't care about privacy, just like they barely care about Iraq, right guys?

We can't hang stuff like this around McCain's neck, cause people like him. Right?  I, for one, would like to talk about the ecomony and put the Wright videos back on a constant loop.  Who's with me?


http://www.yawnmccain.com
by enozinho on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 10:29:52 PM EST

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It's telling when David Gergen practically had to plead with Anderson Cooper to quit circulating racial bogeyman nonsense like the Obama grandmother "conspiracy" that is such the rage around here.  He made a point that it had been heavily circulated in the rightwing media.  Go figure.  Birds of a feather.


by rfahey22 on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 10:40:23 PM EST
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I saw that.  If Obama's speech did anything, it at least made some of the more reasonable media types pretty embarrassed to parse the candidate's every word looking for "gotchas".

It would be nice if some people, and I'm not naming any names, would feel half the shame of your "typical" TV talking head.


http://www.yawnmccain.com
by enozinho on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 10:51:00 PM EST
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please tell me this comment is snark


Oh Mammy Dear, we're all mad over here livin' in America
by JDF on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 11:26:41 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

Yes, 100% snark.


http://www.yawnmccain.com
by enozinho on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 11:29:11 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (2.00 / 1)

Please excuse me for not joining the hysteria, but....this sort of thing happened rather frequently before the monitoring systems they have now were put in place. In fact, most of the time we didn't even know a breach had taken place unless the breachee complained publicly.  It took thirteen months for anyone to notify me that my passport info had been snooped...but then, of course, I'm not Barack Obama.  

In this case, it looks as if the system worked.  Two of the culprits were quickly discovered and fired, the third disciplined.  I can't see why this unfortunate but hardly catastrophic development required a breathless Keith Olbermann to speculate for a full hour, unless he was a waiting for some kind of detail that might, hopefully, implicate Hillary Clinton....while in the meantime showing endless clips of BO gesticulating at milling crowds of people.  As it happened, I was watching a pre-season Yankee-Blue Jays game on TV and kept switching back to see if there was actually any news on Olbermann.  Nope, just frenzied repeating of the same sparse information and miles of speculation.  

When the game was over (Yanks won) I switched to CNN only to find my TV screen again filled with nothing but Obama.  It's unbelievable to what lengths these networks will go to shove their  candidate down our throats.  THANK GOD baseball season will begin soon!  (And I'll bet God's thankful, too.)


by miriam on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 10:44:50 PM EST

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It's the perfect ammo to defeat FISA, even if the two aren't related.


by rfahey22 on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 10:48:03 PM EST
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Exactly.  But this wouldn't have happened to Obama, unless he was black.  Lucky ducky.  Move along.  Nothing to see here.


http://www.yawnmccain.com
by enozinho on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 10:53:26 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

wow...how pleasant.


Oh Mammy Dear, we're all mad over here livin' in America
by JDF on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 11:25:21 PM EST
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Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

OK folks, repeat after me:

No matter whether Hillary or Barak get the nomination, I will vote for the Democratic candidate in the GE!


by Timetheos on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 10:56:07 PM EST

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Um, is it possible that these are just some nosy people with time on their hands, playing with a govt' computer?

I know that the Obama organs (CNN, MSNBC) want to treat this like Ruby killing Oswald, but could it be that it's just a way to get around reporting on Barak's race problem?

Before you go and call me a typical white person, do you really think that McCain, Clinton, or Bush need to resort to using contractor geeks to look at a system jimmied to give an alarm on a breach? Heck, they all already probably have this info, and more. And Barak probably has info on them.

One thing I did hear that was interesting. Obama has NEVER been to Europe?


by LP from MD on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 11:43:33 PM EST

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If people could step away from the Clinton/Obama fight for half a second, they would see that this is a perfect issue to pound McCain over the head with.

You've got three things here; privacy, privatization, and political appointees.  McCain is on the wrong side of all of these issues.  Maybe we should worry less about whether this helps Obama, or whether Clinton is behind this (which is a pretty cynical thing to think about another Democrat), and instead think about how we can make this kind of crap stick to McCain.


http://www.yawnmccain.com
by enozinho on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 11:53:27 PM EST
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Is the media not allowed to devote a few hours to a different story between now and August, or November?  Whoever is at fault, this story can be woven into the greater theme of government surveillance and privatization.


by rfahey22 on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 11:57:35 PM EST
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In other words, let us save the fake outrage for McCain, whom richly deserves it!


http://www.yawnmccain.com
by enozinho on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 12:01:26 AM EST
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I believe it is time for America to hear a major speech on the state of computer hacking and identity theft in America.


by LP from MD on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 12:10:21 AM EST
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Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (1.00 / 1)

BTW, Keith-O has taken to reporing things off of the Drudge wire. This story is one. Then he and Obama lackey Eugene Robinson were talking with great gravity of the picture of Bill Clinton with the Rev. Hatred.

Funny... Drudge had that too.

Earth to Keith-O: Please don't tell that the picture was taken during the 1990s, BEFORE the Rev. Hatred delivered his putrid sermons.


by LP from MD on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 11:48:10 PM EST

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This isn't the right place for this discussion, but I'm going to ask just one question: if Wright was sufficiently credible and legitimate to hang out with the Clintons in the '90's, then what is all of this crap about Obama "listening to a racist pastor for 20 years" about?  Your post implies that Wright may not have been as offensive back then, which is certainly out of line with MyDD orthodoxy on this issue.


by rfahey22 on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 12:18:07 AM EST
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I think it's pretty clear what happened.  The repuglies made this whole thing up, see, you can't find out who the perps are.  Why?  Obama will spin this to his advantage, as well as get visibility.  The repugs love this, since it brings closer the nominee they can beat.  Soundly.  They do not want to face HRC, she will beat their asses.  Soundly.


by jimbo on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 01:23:12 AM EST

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they can listen to our phone calls, read our e-mail, open our mail, send us to gitmo on a whim, all kinds of crazy shit.


Being Normal is for the Mediocre.
by Doug Tuttle on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 02:22:22 AM EST

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If Hilary passport was looked up CNN and Msnbc,, would not cover it are care,but since its barack Obama there going to make a big Deal out of it to take the focus off Obama And Race

Al sharpton Jesse Jackson, There are done ,,, they have a double standard,,, when it come to whites and black,, there is racism in the United State, most of it is coming from the Black Americans,,,, How can Al Sharpton say, its ok for black to get imus fired,,, for the comments imus made, but Jeremiah Wright is ok thousands of excuses a double standard,, its time for Jesse and Al to get out of the lime light,,, Had respect for all sharpton,, until I seen him on Oreilly ,, Just like Obama,, I voted for Obama
in California,, but now when it comes time for the presidency He does not have my vote,, On CNN And Msnbc, I seen alot of barack Obama supporter out there saying
I Hilary is given the primary,,, with the super delegates,,, Obama supporter are going to Vote for McCain,,, there for OBama lost my Vote, in fact I will Vote for McCain,,
If OBama wins the primary,,, because

Barack Obama is a liar,,,

To all
Obama speech ,,,, Not sure if you caught Not only did Obama,,, Refuses to denounce him,, but even More,, He say in his own words,,,
Barack Obama was in church when Jeremiah Wright,, was spewing Anti-American, Racist ism ,,,, Those were his own words,,, barack was there
After going on keith Oberman ,Show obama said he would denounce that if he heard that language he would leave and not tolerate it , and denounce it
After he went on MSNBC,, he went on FOX CNN ABC< all the news station saying he was never there,,, in his church when he said these things,,
But Now today during his speech,,He states flat out Say's HE was there,,, Last week Barack Obama Lied,, went on all the news stations, and Lied,,
But your not reporting that,,,, You can rest assure,,, cnn ,,, Fox , ABC,,, Msnbc,, are getting more on this ,,, they will be reporting on this, and we will see
If you chose to report, Obama Lying on tv,,, If this was Hilary clinton lying and caught lying on all the new station,,, you can be sure,, you would talk about it every hour
people will be on your station debating this,,,, people analysing , if it is hilary clinton but it was not her it was Barack Obama, ,, it bad enought He lied, about being in church
With Jeremiah Write, when he said these anti american ,,,,,and still refuse to denounce him...all the news agency want to do is speak on how good his speech was,
Not that he lied,,, Last week on all the news agency ,, He was never there today in how own speech He say I was there,,,,should play all Obama videos from last week
stating he was not there,,, or heard any of the anti-american Jeremiah Write, said in his churc then play his speech today saying he was there and he did hear him in church and refuse to denounce Jeremiah Wright..


by paulanthony60 on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 02:29:10 AM EST

Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (2.00 / 1)

That must have felt good to get out of your system.


And so, may evil beware and may good dress warmly and eat lots of fresh vegetables.
by thatpurplestuff on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 02:50:20 AM EST
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Re: Barack Obama's Passport File Breached (none / 0)

If Hilary passport was looked up CNN and Msnbc,, would not cover it are care,but since its barack Obama there going to make a big Deal out of it to take the focus off Obama And Race

Al sharpton Jesse Jackson, There are done ,,, they have a double standard,,, when it come to whites and black,, there is racism in the United State, most of it is coming from the Black Americans,,,, How can Al Sharpton say, its ok for black to get imus fired,,, for the comments imus made, but Jeremiah Wright is ok thousands of excuses a double standard,, its time for Jesse and Al to get out of the lime light,,, Had respect for all sharpton,, until I seen him on Oreilly ,, Just like Obama,, I voted for Obama
in California,, but now when it comes time for the presidency He does not have my vote,, On CNN And Msnbc, I seen alot of barack Obama supporter out there saying
I Hilary is given the primary,,, with the super delegates,,, Obama supporter are going to Vote for McCain,,, there for OBama lost my Vote, in fact I will Vote for McCain,,
If OBama wins the primary,,, because

Barack Obama is a liar,,,

To all
Obama speech ,,,, Not sure if you caught Not only did Obama,,, Refuses to denounce him,, but even More,, He say in his own words,,,
Barack Obama was in church when Jeremiah Wright,, was spewing Anti-American, Racist ism ,,,, Those were his own words,,, barack was there
After going on keith Oberman ,Show obama said he would denounce that if he heard that language he would leave and not tolerate it , and denounce it
After he went on MSNBC,, he went on FOX CNN ABC< all the news station saying he was never there,,, in his church when he said these things,,
But Now today during his speech,,He states flat out Say's HE was there,,, Last week Barack Obama Lied,, went on all the news stations, and Lied,,
But your not reporting that,,,, You can rest assure,,, cnn ,,, Fox , ABC,,, Msnbc,, are getting more on this ,,, they will be reporting on this, and we will see
If you chose to report, Obama Lying on tv,,, If this was Hilary clinton lying and caught lying on all the new station,,, you can be sure,, you would talk about it every hour
people will be on your station debating this,,,, people analysing , if it is hilary clinton but it was not her it was Barack Obama, ,, it bad enought He lied, about being in church
With Jeremiah Write, when he said these anti american ,,,,,and still refuse to denounce him...all the news agency want to do is speak on how good his speech was,
Not that he lied,,, Last week on all the news agency ,, He was never there today in how own speech He say I was there,,,,should play all Obama videos from last week
stating he was not there,,, or heard any of the anti-american Jeremiah Write, said in his churc then play his speech today saying he was there and he did hear him in church and refuse to denounce Jeremiah Wright..


by paulanthony60 on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 02:29:34 AM EST

Thanks Todd and Jonathan for a good post (none / 0)

As a Obama fan and long-time MyDD reader, I appreciate your post criticism this breach of privacy.

Compare this front page post by Todd Benton and Jonathan Singer to the silliness that Jaralyn wrote at TalkLeft, where she is defending the State Dept and Bush Administration as vigorously has she defended Scooter Libby.

We need to remember that this is the FOURTH such breach by a Bush administration, going back to 1992.
by xtrarich on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 03:48:11 AM EST

Where are they now dept? (none / 0)

I would really like to know what happened to those 2 thugs from '92, Steven M. Moheban and  Elizabeth M. Tamposi.  My money is on some right wing 'think tank'.

This is just the first probings of the Republican smear machine, by November "even his own mother wouldn't know him" (Local R politician's campaign manager).  And I would like to ask the Obama supporters if they're ready for much more of this?


by Runstadrey on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 10:44:41 AM EST

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whats laughable about this is that everyone suddenyl sees conspiracy! Hey someone used my motherinlaws credit card number to make illegal purchases...must have been Bush......cmon folks....get alife.....he evil Bush and Cheney gremlins are not responsible for everything that happens in the world. Obama calling for a congressional investigation just sounds silly.....its a waste fo time and money , Just let the inspector general due his investigation. I am so sick of this ridiculous Bush conspiracy crap...you all sound liek a bunch of nuits. I cant stand Bush.....but I also know he isnt the boogeyman....


by adbct on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 03:32:19 PM EST


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