Geraldine Ferraro resents being lumped in with the Rev. Wright in Obama speech

Former vice presidential candidate Geraldine Ferraro said today that she objected to the comparison Sen. Barack Obama drew between her and his former pastor in his speech on race relations Tuesday.

In the speech, Obama sought to place the inflammatory remarks of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright in a broader context, in part by placing them on a continuum with Ferraro's recent remark to the Daily Breeze that Obama is "lucky" to be black.

"To equate what I said with what this racist bigot has said from the pulpit is unbelievable," Ferraro said today. "He gave a very good speech on race relations, but he did not address the fact that this man is up there spewing hatred."Ferraro, the only woman to ever run on a major party presidential ticket, sparked a controversy when she told the Breeze that "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position." The resulting controversy was quickly superceded by an even greater furor over Wright's sermons, in which Obama's longtime pastor denounced America and argued that the 9-11 terrorist attacks were retribution for U.S. foreign policy.

In an effort to stem the damage to his presidential campaign, Obama gave a 37-minute speech Tuesday in which he used Ferraro's remarks as a rhetorical foil to Wright's and drew a parallel between black anger and white resentment.
"On one end of the spectrum, we've heard the implication that my candidacy is somehow an exercise in affirmative action; that it's based solely on the desire of wild- and wide-eyed liberals to purchase racial reconciliation on the cheap," Obama said.

"On the other end, we've heard my former pastor, Jeremiah Wright, use incendiary language to express views that have the potential not only to widen the racial divide, but views that denigrate both the greatness and the goodness of our nation and that rightly offend white and black alike."

Ferraro, who supports Sen. Hillary Clinton, has been unapologetic about her remarks. Clinton has said she disagrees with Ferraro and has accepted Ferraro's resignation from her finance committee.

Ferraro said she had "no clue" why Obama would include her in his speech, and said Obama's association with Wright raises serious questions about his judgment.

"What this man is doing is he is spewing that stuff out to young people, and to younger people than Obama, and putting it in their heads that it's OK to say `Goddamn America' and it's OK to beat up on white people," she said. "You don't preach that from the pulpit."

Ferraro also said she could not understand why Obama had called out his own white grandmother for using racial stereotypes that had made him cringe.

"I could not believe that," she said. "That's my mother's generation."

Obama returned to Ferraro's remarks later in his speech, again drawing a comparison between her and Wright.

"We can dismiss Reverend Wright as a crank or a demagogue, just as some have dismissed Geraldine Ferraro in the aftermath of her recent statements as harboring some deep-seated bias," Obama said.

He went on to argue that such dismissals would foreclose a deeper understanding of racial resentments.

Obama appeared to allude to Ferraro once more when he said that it would be wrong to "pounce on some gaffe by a Hillary supporter as evidence that she's playing the race card."

It was Obama's campaign that drew the most attention to Ferraro's remark last week, and suggested they fit with an pattern of racial comments by Clinton surrogates.

"That's exactly what he did," Ferraro said. "It was their campaign that started this."

In sum, however, Ferraro said she thought the speech was "excellent," and said she understood why Obama could not renounce his association with Wright.

"I think they got as far as they could go politically," she said. "They're looking at their base. Their base is African-Americans. They're looking at that and they're trying to walk a very thin line. They don't want to offend the African-Americans, and this is the way he did it."

Update [2008-3-20 19:27:6 by indus]: This is from Daily Breeze http://www.dailybreeze.com/ci_8629143



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Re: Geraldine Ferraro resents being lumped in with (none / 0)

The Rev. Wright's statements were definitely racist, and reprehensible.  But Mrs. Ferraro's statements were also racist.  And it's certainly not the first time she's made similar remarks.

But as Obama said, people can change.  Maybe some day she will apologize.


by McNasty on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 04:18:45 PM EST

Yo hooo. Obama said the same thing.... (none / 0)

about himself in 2005.  It's on his website!!!  See comment just below.

How come when she made the statement it was racist but it's OK that he said the same thing about himself.

Oh, now I get it, she's just a white person.


by Shazone on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 04:27:51 PM EST
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Re: maybe Gerry was right (none / 0)

Here's some interesting insights on the race card from Reese Schonfeld (original co-founder of CNN and a former VP of UPI News):  

I grew up in Newark where all politics was ethnic. I've never gotten over it. But, for the past six months I've heard pundits prattle and seen the writers writhe in print as they endeavor to explain the roll of "race" in the Democratic primaries. It's like, "Gee, do you think that race has anything to do with Obama's candidacy?" Come on guys. We all know it does.

Here's what I think really happened. A bunch of guys decided that the Democratic Party needs a candidate who isn't named Hillary. But it looked like Hillary couldn't be beaten -- she owned the black vote. Her husband was the "first black President". How can you beat her?

Everybody I grew up with in Newark knew the answer to that. You take the black vote away from her. You find a man who can deprive her of her advantage with blacks. Quickly you discover you don't have too many options.

Jackson and Sharpton are yesterday and they carry a lot of baggage. There's a new governor in Massachusetts, but nobody's ever heard of him. Herald Ford, the ex-Congressman from Tennessee would have been perfect, but he lost his bid for the Senate last year and he's on the sidelines now. And then there's, Barack Obama.

Obama's smart, looks good on camera and hasn't been around long enough to make any major mistakes. He's the right guy in the right place at the right time. If we play our cards right it totally changes the primaries. Obama gets ninety percent of the black vote, Hilary loses her ethnic edge and we go on to victory.

It's a genius strategy, and every ward politician I grew up with in Newark would've figured it out in a second-and-a-half. If you wanna beat the other guy, steal his base.

So, how'd Obama get the nod? Just lucky, I guess.  (Maybe Gerry was right)
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/reese-scho nfeld/#blogger_bio


by moevaughn on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 04:50:45 PM EST
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just stop (none / 0)

this kind of nonsense is why I will not vote for Obama EVER and I will not get over it if he and his supporters do not stop accusing people falsly of racism.


For Obama it now becomes: Faith, hope and CHANGE! And the greatest of these is Change!
by TeresaInPa on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 06:04:43 PM EST
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Re: Geraldine Ferraro resents being lumped in with (none / 0)

Gerry Ferraro wasn't racist to tell the truth. I hope she doesn't apologize. Her statements weren't racist in any way. On the contrary, dismissing her as a racist is racism as well.


While I could sit in church and pray all I want, I wouldn't be fulfilling God's will unless I went out and did the Lord's work ~ Barack Obama
by bowiegeek on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 06:52:53 PM EST
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Re: Geraldine Ferraro resents being lumped in (none / 0)

I don't think Obama was saying Ferraro was like Wright at all.  He was sayng that she is not a racist, but someone who unintentionally used race because of a generationally gap of looking at things differently.


by Spanky on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 04:19:09 PM EST

Nothing in her statement was racist... (2.00 / 1)

intentionally or unintentionally.

AND, she said the same thing Obama said about himself in 2005:  

http://obama.senate.gov/news/050626-when _it_comes_to_race_obama_ma/

"Obama acknowledges, with no small irony, that he benefits from his race.

If he were white, he once bluntly noted, he would simply be one of nine freshmen senators, almost certainly without a multimillion-dollar book deal and a shred of celebrity. Or would he have been elected at all?"

Funny thing...if BO says it it's magic, great judgment, so insightful, so thoughtful, so WONDERFUL.  

If anyone else says the same thing it's racist.  


by Shazone on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 04:26:17 PM EST
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Quick, somebody screen capture that before they (none / 0)

take it down...  oh, wait.  I just did.


by linc on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 04:40:56 PM EST
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Re: Nothing in her statement was racist... (none / 0)

what's more John Kerry said the very same thing this week. The Obama campaign/supporters are a study in hypocrisy.


by tarheel74 on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 04:43:31 PM EST
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Re: John Kerry (none / 0)

I think Kerry remembers when he made a statement encouraging young people to stay in school/college rather than join the military and end up in Iraq.  That was twisted all over the place by msm and wingnuts making it sound like he said our soldiers serving in Iraq are stupid.  They called Kerry unpatriotic and racist and other crap.  It was so ridiculous.  He remembers that and, even though he has endorsed Obama, he can see the msm and wingnuts have done something similar to Gerry Ferraro.


by moevaughn on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 04:56:57 PM EST
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Re: Geraldine Ferraro resents being lumped in with (2.00 / 0)

Ferraro had "no clue"....  I read that in the above post and I agree...  She has no clue.  She has no idea why anyone would have taken issue with her words...  

That she has reduced her stature with the remarks she made after the initial gaffe is indeed a shame,  "They're attacking me because I'm white...?"  


Like the nominee, don't like the nominee... Our nominee is still better than John McCain...
by JenKinFLA on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 04:26:54 PM EST

Well, (none / 0)

Ferraro was mentioned in the speech, b/c a)her remarks were being criticized last week and b)Obama was saying in his speech that people were judging her remarks without putting them in context(Same with Wright).  He wasn't calling her out or lumping her in with Wright.


This administration is not sinking. This administration is soaring! If anything, they are rearranging the deck chairs on the Hindenburg!
by venavena on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 04:40:02 PM EST

Re: Ferraro (none / 0)

Ferarro's name should've never come up in Obama's speech. The only reason she was even mentioned was to lame attempt to persuade voters that her words were just as incendiary as Wright's. Obama failed miserably in his mission.


I'm United Methodist. I already have a Messiah.
by KnowVox on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 04:51:21 PM EST
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Re: Ferraro (none / 0)

No one's allowed to discuss St. Ferraro now?  Uh, ok.


by rfahey22 on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 04:58:01 PM EST
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Re: Ferraro (none / 0)

"We can dismiss Reverend Wright as a crank or a demagogue, just as some have dismissed Geraldine Ferraro, in the aftermath of her recent statements, as harboring some deep-seated racial bias."  

I think that could go either way.  I agree that her remarks weren't nearly as incendiary as Wright's.


This administration is not sinking. This administration is soaring! If anything, they are rearranging the deck chairs on the Hindenburg!
by venavena on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 04:58:34 PM EST
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"As a dog returns to it's vomit....... (none / 0)

so a fool returns to his (her) folly."


by bernardpliers on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 04:40:46 PM EST

Re: Sourcing (none / 0)

Sources should be noted in this diary, otherwise it's a copyright violation. Thanks.


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by KnowVox on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 04:41:14 PM EST

Re: Sourcing (none / 0)

You're right that the source should be provided, but that doesn't really have anything to do with copyright (that has more to do with attribution). Even if the diarist included the source, it's still probably a copyright violation because it appears that the entire article has been copied without permission. To avoid the violation, only a small excerpt should be copied here, with a link to the article. That would probably constitute "fair use."


by DPW on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 04:52:38 PM EST
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Re: Guess I didn't make myself clear... (none / 0)

THIS IS A COPYRIGHT VIOLATION. It is lifted word for word from The Daily Breeze. Copying and pasting complete copyrighted articles without permission from the copyright holder is absolutely prohibited by copyright laws, and can expose both the author and the site owner to financial liability.

This isn't a matter of "attribution" or "fair use." Please familiarize yourself with copyright law before you provide posters of this site with faulty legal advice.


I'm United Methodist. I already have a Messiah.
by KnowVox on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 06:18:09 PM EST
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Re: Guess I didn't make myself clear... (none / 0)

I took a couple of copyright classes in law school, so I'm familiar enough to handle this question.

Your original comment claimed that failure to indicate the source constituted a violation of copyright law. However, copyright law relates to copying something without permission, not attribution. There are laws related to rights of attribution, but that's distinct from copyright law.

Your formulation in this comment is a more accurate view of the law: "Copying and pasting complete copyrighted articles without permission from the copyright holder is absolutely prohibited by copyright laws." Interestingly, there is no mention of attribution in this statement.

And "fair use" is certainly relevant. Otherwise, nothing from the copyrighted article could be published in diaries. So, the general rule for diaries is to only excerpt small relevant portions of the larger article and to provide a link to the original article (in order to provide attribution).


by DPW on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 06:59:26 PM EST
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Re: Guess I didn't make myself clear... again (none / 0)

You forgot to mention you either FAILED those law school classes or are practicing law without a license. The copyright violation inherent in the wholesale word-for-word copying of this diary from another source has absolutely NOTHING to do with either the doctrine of "fair use" or "attribution."

To protect the site owners and the diarist from legal liability, this diary should be either deleted or revised.


I'm United Methodist. I already have a Messiah.
by KnowVox on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 01:19:51 AM EST
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Re: Guess I didn't make myself clear... again (none / 0)

What the fuck are you talking about? In my reply to your first comment, I agreed with you that this diary is violative of copyright law. The only point I was making was that such violation has nothing to do with the diarist's failure to attribute--i.e., provide the source. The violation relates to the fact that it was copied without permission.

And, my point about fair use was that some portion of the copyrighted material may be reproduced (in a diary)--under certain conditions--without permission under the fair use examption. And, that is true, whether you realize it or not. Here is a decent overview of the law concerning fair use.

Just admit you were wrong and get over it.


by DPW on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 02:25:00 AM EST
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Re: Copyright 101 (none / 0)

The diarist did not excerpt any portion of the article from the Daily Breeze, and failed to attribute the source at the time it was posted. This action is a clear and flagrant COPYRIGHT VIOLATION. The copyright violation has absolutely nothing to do with "fair use" or "attribution." Even a 3rd grader can look up "copyright violation" on Wikipedia.

Admit you're providing faulty legal advice to diarists here and move on.


I'm United Methodist. I already have a Messiah.
by KnowVox on Fri Mar 21, 2008 at 11:35:44 AM EST
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Obama using Ferraro's comments is low blow (none / 0)

If Obama were to become President of the USA, would he call out the race card every time one of his policy decisions were wrong and then criticized?


truthseeker2
by truthseeker2 on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 05:07:34 PM EST

Every time she speaks, I like her less (none / 0)

And, I'm sure Rev. Wright resents Ferraro misrepresenting what he has said. According to this article, Ferraro said:

"What this man is doing is he is spewing that stuff out to young people, and to younger people than Obama, and putting it in their heads that it's . . . OK to beat up on white people," she said.

When the hell has Wright said anything like that? Also, her reaction to Rev. Wright's remarks appears as bad as Sean Hannity's. As a (politically liberal) practicing Catholic, she should have a little more understanding. Fuck, almost every church preaches that I (an atheist) am going to burn in hell, but I'm not accusing every minister in the country of spewing hate and saying it's okay to beat me up. Anyway, I would have expected a more considerate response from her.


by DPW on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 05:11:56 PM EST

Re: Geraldine Ferraro (none / 0)

Two more points about Gerry Ferraro:

1.  Her remarks were actuall made more than three weeks before the Obama people handed them over to the press.

2.  The quotation was taken from a paper called the Daily Breeze.

Ever hear of the Daily Breeze?  Probably not!  So it took the Obama research team over three weeks to find something from a local paper nobody's ever heard of which they could twist to their own dastardly end of slamming the Clinton campaign again with a race card.  And even though it was three weeks old, the MSM went crazy with it, further twisting and spinning and insinuating there's some racism there.

Any ideas about this?  Is it that O people just couldn't find what they were looking for until they went back three weeks?  Or did they already have it, but held on to it to just before the MS primary?  Either way, this does not reflect well on the Obama campaign.


by moevaughn on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 05:13:15 PM EST

Attacking Her Because She's A White Woman? (none / 0)

"I really think they're attacking me because I'm white. How's that?'"

Gerry's haunted by the idea of scary AAs attacking white women?

I thought she sounded like someone trying to stir up a classic lynch mob to protect the honor of the white women from ravenous you-know-whats.


by bernardpliers on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 05:15:07 PM EST

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obama said his grandmother was scared of being attacked by black men.


by moevaughn on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 06:27:05 PM EST
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His G'ma Wasn't Inciting a Mob (none / 0)

And she probably wasn't smirking when she said it


by bernardpliers on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 07:22:18 PM EST
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