Obama Fatigue, Primary Fatigue

Am I the only one who is tired of all this already?

I thought the speech yesterday was underwhelming and transparently politically motivated. There was no historic moment.

And what is with this bizarre mania for "historic moments" and "historic candidacies?"
Why can't we just have a government that runs properly and elected officials that tell the truth?

Why do we always have to be catapulted from one "historic moment" to the next? And why do our elected officals always have to be "barrier breakers?" I'm tired of it all.

America has a unholy fixation on media narratives. Nothing is allowed to exist or to play out outside of this grossly distorted narrative-drive that overhypes every event and regulates others to non-existence. But that's not new.

But this addiciton to narrative is killing us! Its suffocating.

I vote for a parlimentary system. Enough with these presidential campaigns and media presidencies. Way too much ideology all around.

One of the appeals for Hillary or McCain for me is no new narratives. we know who they are. Let them govern. And leave us in peace. I can't take four or eight years of being preached to by Mr. Obama every time he is caught in a double-bind, and I certaintly can't take four to eight years of the media everyday spinning every one of his inconsequential words into a historic moment." If he farts, it is a historic moment. One for the textbooks.

Give me a break. Get this thing over already!



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Get over yourself. Just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

and Hillary running is an equally historic moment, which she reminds us of just about every time she speaks before a crowd.

I guess, since you don't want anymore barrier breakers or historic moments you should vote for McCain.

Bye now.


ENOUGH!
by JDF on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 04:33:21 PM EST

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Frankly, I didn't see it either.

I guess, since you don't want anymore barrier breakers or historic moments you should vote for McCain.

What an asinine comment. And fwiw, even McCain's election would be historic (in more ways than one), as he'd be the first president elected to a first term while in his seventies. Septuagenarian white men everywhere are watching this election with bated breath.


Fortune strums a mournful tune for those whose campaigns peak too soon. --Bored of the Rings
by Inky on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 05:29:55 PM EST
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"Septuagenarian white men everywhere are watching this election with bated breath."

Now that's funny!


by LakersFan on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 07:18:20 PM EST
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"Why can't we just have a government that runs properly and elected officials that tell the truth?"

That'd be a historical moment in itself.

Our system works - it just requires a lot of time.  Checks and balances seems to have been a concept that has permeated our system to such a degree that this primary election is moving at a rate slower than a bill trying to make its way through Congress or a Supreme Court case decision.  However, democracy is a slow process, but in that slow steadiness, freedom is preserved.  I'm leery of the British and French governmental systems for their executive heavy tendencies, but I like our government - it just depends who's running it.


by ejintx on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 04:34:58 PM EST

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I do have Obama fatigue.  I admit it.  Yes I am a HRC supporter but I think there has been so much coverage of Obama - positive and negative - that it has taken away from the Obama mania a bit..except in the media.  


by JustJennifer on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 04:38:52 PM EST

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I think we're all tired.  I have to step away from it all more often than not.

A sensible diary in what has become an anything but sensible and loooong primary.

However, come on - a woman and a mixed race man.  That is a big deal even if it is....OMG only March.


by Xanthe on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 04:40:05 PM EST

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We are finishing an 8 year dynasty where GWB and his unmerry men have just ruled. Today both Cheney and Bush came out and told the American people they were going to do it their way and public be damned.

Listen, if you want to be left alone, that's your right and god bless you. But I haven't seen a whole bunch of altruistic politicking in my lifetime. The Obama campaign is all about grass roots governing which is historic. It's also about transparency and I am fanatical about that concept because it leads to accountability.

P.S. Sorry to be so preachy.


by tharr on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 04:48:40 PM EST

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er...Obama campaign is about transparency??

Oh, I'm too fatigued to answer.  Sigh.


On to the Convention Floor!
by oh puhleeze on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 05:15:14 PM EST
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Obama's lack of transparency (none / 0)

1) he was for lobbyists, used PAC money and gave $700,000 to superdelegates--- until the day he decided to run for President when he changed his mind and said he wouldn't accept lobbyist money now (you see, John Edwards had said that, and he was playing catch up at the time).

2) he accepted 23 corporate jet rides like the ones that Jack Abromoff gave out to Senators in his FIRST YEAR in the Senate-------until the WEEK he was put in charge of Senate ethics.

3) he refused to tell reporters what his earmarks were (maybe the hospital that led to his wife's enormous raise factored in)---------until last week becaus JOHN MCCAIN MADE FUN OF HIM, AND TAUNTED HIM ON TRANSPARENCY AND ASKED HIM TO SHOW US HIS EARMARKS.

Chicago Sun-Times reporter Lynn Sweet outlined all of it, she called it his problem with "situational ethics" ALWAYS FOR HUGE POLITICAL GAIN.

He's not "all about grassroots"---- he's got Axelrod, he poached Bill Clinton's ex-campaign manager, and he even has old Carter adminstration aides muscling around plus his desperate endorsement seeking has him making promises and cutting backroom deals (Lynn Sweet's on this story too, and she was sympathetic to Obama) to every OLD TIMER WASHINGTON INSIDER HE CAN KISS UP TO.

Obama--not what he says he is.  Words matter.  But actions speak louder than words.  And when your words and actions don't match (Points 1-3 above) we call you an enormous hypocrite.  When words are your stock and trade, and you're a hypocrite, we call you a political liability.  

And accomplishments.......mean a lot in an economic downturn.

When your selling points are all this phony, the Unconverted will look elsewhere come voting time.


by chieflytrue on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 12:37:40 AM EST
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You neglected to say that Clinton has received $4.1M in PAC funds, over 3 times as much as Obama. But more importantly he no longer takes either PAC, lobbyist or bundled monies. For some reason Senator Clinton has refused to make such a move.

As respects the corporate jet use, it seems disingenuous to include Abromoff's name when there is no indication that Obama ever dealt with him. It should be noted that jet use has been allowed under Senate rules and I believe that he has stopped the practice. However, contrast that to the usage by Clinton who has accepted over $900,000 in usage alone from one of her contributors planes, Vinod Gupta. It should also be noted that Bill Clinton is paid by Gupta's InfoUSA. He also received over $1M per year in salary.

Let's talk earmarks. Obama has made his requests available as opposed to no transparency from Clinton. She refuses to report her requests.

Compare and contrast the records. Add the failure of Clinton to provide tax reports, failure to disclose contributors to Clinton's Library and let me know which record is more appealing to a prudent man or woman.

Those are the facts as opposed to your hyperbole.


by tharr on Thu Mar 20, 2008 at 05:31:36 AM EST
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we have another 4 weeks before penn, why not just take a three week vacation?  not the candidates, but us?  stop going to these sites, flip the news when it changes over to election 08, and stop watching cable news.  just a suggestion.


"Katie, i'd like to use one of my lifelines, i'd like to phone a friend." "governor Palin"
by Doug Tuttle on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 04:51:41 PM EST

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Do any of us have the willpower to do that, though?
Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 06:18:26 PM EST
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Good rant.  Yes.  The new beerability.


by environmentally blue on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 04:52:08 PM EST

Bravo!!! So well said! (2.00 / 1)

"And what is with this bizarre mania for "historic moments" and "historic candidacies?" Why can't we just have a government that runs properly and elected officials that tell the truth?"

Thank you, brother/sister.  My sentiments exactly.

I keep thinking that some of these people need to read a dramatic historical account, or go to an epic film, or attend a major music festival instead of looking for these feelings from a presidential election.


by lombard on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 04:58:59 PM EST

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This is what I can't stomach the news. It's cartoonish. No one wants to talk about the real issues facing our country. We're in the middle of a recession and the media just could care less.


by Dari on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 05:07:37 PM EST

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I'll be honest as an Obama supporter I'm a bit worried about this, and I think most honest Clinton supporters are too, what if in the following 5 weeks the tone keeps going downhill? What if the Obama speech, and Clinton's calls for economic justice, are ignored and instead the media plays up the horse race, already Clinton and Obama are far lower in favorability than either of them were last month (Hillary's negs ahavent risen but her faves ahave fallen nearly as dfast as Obama's I think he's up by like 5 there), all the while McCain's out looking "statesmanlike" (I don't think so, especially with yesterday's gaffe but outside of here were both Hill and BHO supporters tore him a new one, and in the canidates repsective speeches, its been ignored) his faves are already what 67%, even in the best case for Obama he knocks her out on 4/22, for Clinton she knocks him out 8/29, and by then our guys could be defined as petty unworthy's (especially since you know the GOP will play up the fact that a woman and a Black man just lack that "command stature" or whatever). Look at first I was all over the "et the process play out, it starves McCain of attention" meme, but now I'm scared that's a good thing, after all if he's out of sight he can't piss anyone off.


by Socraticsilence on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 05:29:20 PM EST

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Yeah, and McCain's off traveling some of the time. The GOP has forever to rally its base and raise money. McCain's got plenty of time to learn about the economy and come up with a plan. Plenty of time to pick a good VP.

Meanwhile, we're all bickering at one another. One thing I hate about the Wright incident -- I'm pretty sure more Republicans will turn out to vote against Obama now, even if they don't care for McCain. People have been making the argument for months that nothing could unify the Republican base better than a Clinton nomination. Well, now I think either Democrat is going to do a bang-up job of kicking the opposition into high gear.

Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 06:25:00 PM EST
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