DAILY KOS Split Coming Up on O'REILLY

Please please don't think a I'm a wing nut!

I was watching O'Reilly to catch his reaction to Obama's talk on
Jeramiah Wright.  I swear!

At any rate, he's going to talk about the split in Daily Kos right
after the break.

O'Reilly interviewed Jehmu Wright, who told how Clinton supporters
were being threatened and harassed in the blogs.
O'Reilly commented that dKos has long been a hate site, and thought that
Clinton's appeasing them early on did not work.

Wright commented that Daily Kos had forgotten that we all need to work
together to win a general election.

This is all from memory. Apologies for any inaccuracies!



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Re: DAILY KOS Split Coming Up on O'REILLY (2.00 / 1)

watching it, quite funny.


by zane on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 08:32:56 PM EST

It's great that this is FINALLY getting (2.00 / 1)

media attention!  The Kos brats have been at this for such a long time.


by earthoat on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 08:38:35 PM EST
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Re: It's great that this is FINALLY getting (2.00 / 5)

yeah... there is nothing quite like broadcasting the dissension in your party's ranks to Fox News in a Presidential election year...  I'm sure they are just eating this up...  Gives them hope in a year that they should have exactly none.

Well done.


"If you ever post anything on that website again, I will shove a motherboard so far up your a$$...!" C.J Cregg
by JenKinFLA on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 09:06:06 PM EST
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Re: It's great that this is FINALLY getting (none / 0)

Thank Kos.


Fight for Democrats in Congress.
by owl06 on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 09:29:57 PM EST
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Re: DAILY KOS Split Coming Up on O'REILLY (2.00 / 2)

Alegre is famous, as she should be imo. She ROCKS!


by zane on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 08:33:18 PM EST

Re: DAILY KOS Split Coming Up on O'REILLY (2.00 / 1)

Good catch


by jelyfish on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 08:34:38 PM EST

Re: DAILY KOS Split Coming Up on O'REILLY (none / 0)

He just said when you eat with the devil you need to bring a spoon.  What does that mean?

Well if anyone knows about the devil.

Distrubing

david


by giusd on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 08:36:30 PM EST

Didn't someone tell him (2.00 / 3)

that there is no spoon?


by Radiowalla on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 08:40:30 PM EST
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I think he said a long spoon. (none / 0)


by earthoat on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 08:52:27 PM EST
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Re: DAILY KOS Split Coming Up on O'REILLY (none / 0)

I think it might mean that anyone else has to bring their own sppon to such a dinner, because Mr. O'Reilley has already been in attendance in that particular setting and left with the silver, all 30 pieces of it.


Hell's bells, even the GOP didn't have to crucify Eisenhower's record in order to make Reagan their 'saint'. We can have two great ones, you know?
by emsprater on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 10:26:09 PM EST
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and half of Keith Olbermann's FORMER (none / 0)

fans, to boot!


by earthoat on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 10:41:03 PM EST
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Re: DAILY KOS Split Coming Up on O'REILLY (2.00 / 1)

Thank you for watching so I don't have to.
I hope he serves falafel with this segment.
by Radiowalla on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 08:39:11 PM EST

Re: DAILY KOS Split Coming Up on O'REILLY (none / 0)


by Radiowalla on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 08:39:21 PM EST

Re: DAILY KOS Split Coming Up on O'REILLY (2.00 / 13)

This is sad. Look at your glee over O'Reilly bashing more dems...

Remember when the NYT published that article on McCain? Even the wingnuts who HATED McCain, like Rush, went to his defense. Because while primary battles are for the heart and soul the party -- the party is still what is being fought for.

And O'Reilly and Fox exist to destroy the Democratic brand.

When you are on the same side as Falafel, you
(should) know you've got things backwards.

O'Reilly jumps on any chance to call Kos a Nazi. It's a tragedy of discourse, any member of the blogosphere should take offense, and any liberal should fight that lie.

To do otherwise is to be a collaborator.


Fight the Smears!
by Lettuce on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 08:49:26 PM EST

Our glee comes from being gang banged (1.00 / 3)

for months, and finally seeing this dirty crap come to light.


by earthoat on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 08:51:27 PM EST
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Re: Our glee comes from being gang banged (2.00 / 8)

#1. "Gang banged" is pretty offensive.

#2. Where do you think this will lead? Do you think he'll hail the brave noble souls at MyDD? Imagine if MyDD becomes as large and popular as dKos...do you think he won't start calling you a Nazi? A hate site? Are you really that naive?

You're awfully cheerful that a wingnut lunatic is trying to use you as his "useful idiots"--temporarily convenient for serving his purposes, then disposed of.


by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 08:56:31 PM EST
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Re: Our glee comes from being gang banged (2.00 / 7)

When exactly was anyone here "gangbanged"....  I didn't think they allowed cybersex on all-ages websites...

Beyond that...  it is truly a sad state of affairs when you are cheering on O'Reilly... for any reason.

What's next, Rush does a segment and we end up with a live feed?

Wake me when it's November...

We are becoming what we have beheld.


"If you ever post anything on that website again, I will shove a motherboard so far up your a$$...!" C.J Cregg
by JenKinFLA on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 08:57:19 PM EST
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Re: DAILY KOS Split Coming Up on O'REILLY (none / 0)

Wow, I found it interesting that's all.  To imply some agreement of O'Reilly is a reach.


by jelyfish on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 09:05:59 PM EST
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Re: DAILY KOS Split Coming Up on O'REILLY (2.00 / 3)

I don't think the implication is "agreement" -- it's "lending legitimacy".

...just like it's wrong to lend legitimacy to Debbie Schlussel on a (supposedly... or at least formerly progressive blog).

...just like it's wrong to lend legitimacy to NewsMax.

...just like it's wrong to lend legitimacy to Bill Kristol.

Hell -- it's wrong to lend legitimacy to Drudge - as I most CERTAINLY emphasized when a few Obama supporters were pushing the "Clinton gave me Kenya pictures".  

I posted several times the idea -- "Cite Drudge = autoban".   I'm perfectly comfortable extending that idea to O'Reilly, Kristol, Newsmax, and all the rest.

All this does is legitimize asshats who's SOLE GOAL -- SOLE GOAL -- is to destroy everything we believe in.  To eliminate the possibility of those policies and platforms we all supposedly agree on.

No doubt this absolutely fills people like Rush Limbaugh with glee.... it only helps them move to end Social Security.... it only helps to keep Wall Street afloat while Main Street drowns... it helps them keep us in Iraq for 100 years -- and go into Iran for good measure...

There ARE actually conservative commentators I can stomach -- vociferously disagree with, but aren't bomb-throwers.

People like O'Reilly are bomb-throwers.

You're being used - and it's sad.


by zonk on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 09:24:02 PM EST
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Re: DAILY KOS Split Coming Up on O'REILLY (none / 0)

Your reaching.  I'm a news junkie and a political junkie and I'm very Liberal.  I flipped to faux news for a minute-ish.  

I think to say I'm giving any legitimacy to him, is unfair.  His show is more like comedy to me ... so so so sad people watch him for anything more than laughs.  


by jelyfish on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 09:36:12 PM EST
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Re: DAILY KOS Split Coming Up on O'REILLY (none / 0)

Well... considering my dad keeps threatening to buy me one of O'Reilly's tomes, I'm very leery of him.

Fortunately, I've informed my father that I will proceed to use each page to wipe my ass, photograph the act, and post it all over the web.

Consequently, he has not yet followed through on the threat, so I'm still buying Charmin for the time being.


by zonk on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 10:04:27 PM EST
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MSNBC, NYTimes other outlets (none / 0)

shilling for Obama.  That's sad.  Nobody has ever received this type of media cheerleading that this unknown and unvetted candidate has.

If Kos's actions towards Hillary Clinton supporters is making news somewhere--expect those affected to watch that show.

It's still America, and telling people in an alternative news source not to watch other alternatives to the mainstream love affair with His Unvettedness isn't going to work.  We'll go wherever we can to get outside the overt bias of MSNBC or most mainstream media.  No wonder Fox's ratings are blowing out CNN and MSNBC.  

Not everyone loves Obama unconditionally.

And Republicans feel that their candidate was chosen by the media as well, so whatever happened this election year there is no staunch conservative around (unless there's something else we don't know about Obama) so I think it's harmless to watch a show while it is featuring the fact that Kos let his site turn into a strange, strange woman bashing hellhole.


by chieflytrue on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 10:34:21 PM EST
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is it sad when (none / 0)

Kossacks treat Hillary with no respect?


by Hedda Lettuce1 on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 11:39:09 PM EST
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really? (none / 0)

try being pro-hillary on kos


by Hedda Lettuce1 on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 11:37:02 PM EST
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Re: DAILY KOS Split Coming Up on O'REILLY (2.00 / 1)

I just watched it too.  Unfortunately, Hillary supporters have to turn to Fox news at this point because they aren't in the tank for Obama.  I liked how Jehmu railed against the "liberal elitists" of the party.  What I like about Hillary is that she has been savaged by Fox for years and years and is still standing.  she sees them as worthy adversaries.  It's sad when Hillary has to go to Fox instead of NBC to find fair coverage.


by MidwestTracker on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 08:53:21 PM EST

Re: DAILY KOS Split Coming Up on O'REILLY (2.00 / 3)

Hillary supporters have to turn to Fox news at this point because they aren't in the tank for Obama

for pete's sake...are you guys even reading what you're saying? Seriously, you're supporting Fox News?!?


by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 08:58:48 PM EST
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SOCK PUPPETS from Daily Kos! (none / 0)

Well, well, well.  Haven't seen you guys in 3 days.
Too bad about Obamabumbler.

If anyone is reading this, a sock puppet is one guy with multiple names.  Like probably every obnoxious post in this diary.


by earthoat on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 10:40:02 PM EST
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Re: SOCK PUPPETS from Daily Kos! (2.00 / 1)

At this point, you're not even making sense anymore.


by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 11:01:21 PM EST
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I must ask (2.00 / 7)

WHY do you even watch O'LIELY? Why do you want us to care what that asshole thinks?!

HE hates liberals of all stripes and especially hates Dkos because they are a powerful liberal influence!

Yes Dkos has lost its way a bit. I wish Markos would come out and say sorry and let's all get along, sing KumBaYa, etc. BUT I will never wish anything bad on a site that has done so much good!

I support the reason for the strike. I do not support trying to take Dkos down.


Washington Woman

Progressive Blue

by kevin22262 on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 08:56:05 PM EST

Because he is supporting my candidate (2.00 / 1)

Would you rather I watch Cafferty sliming her on CNN?
Or Keith Olbermann smearing her on MSNBC?
by earthoat on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 10:37:39 PM EST
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Re: Because he is supporting my candidate (2.00 / 3)

If o'liely is saying anything good about any Democrat or liberal, then he is up to NO GOOD!

The same goes for all of faux news.


Washington Woman

Progressive Blue

by kevin22262 on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 11:23:33 PM EST
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Kevin, that might be (none / 0)

but if his ratings go up, he might be less inclined to say anything to lose the biz.  (for a while at least)
And I'm sure he would RELISH the idea of taking KO's former viewers to up his ratings.

KO is the guy I trusted with all my heart, and look what he did to us!  I used to email him begging him for a crumb of fairness.

Whatever their tricky reason, Fox is helping HRC right now.  And I'm going to watch them while they are helping her, then stop the second they go back to being Faux.

The way we survive in this weird world is by mutating.


by earthoat on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 11:37:43 PM EST
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Re: Kevin, that might be (2.00 / 1)

I disagree. If his ratings go up, then he will keep pitching the same lies and shit that he has been doing for YEARS!

I agree partially about KO but I do not hate him. He has been a GREAT progressive over the last few years.

If you are going to stay at FN, then PLEASE becareful! They know how to "mind meld" and they will try and brainwash you with all of their "fair and balanced" ways.   ;)


Washington Woman

Progressive Blue

by kevin22262 on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 12:37:37 AM EST
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Re: DAILY KOS Split Coming Up on O'REILLY (2.00 / 5)

And this is good for Democrats - not just the presidential candidates, but all the congressional and state and local candidates down the ballot - how, exactly?


Ceci n'est pas une <<snark>>
by ipsos on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 08:58:23 PM EST

Almost four hours later... (none / 0)

(crickets chirping in the distance)


Ceci n'est pas une <<snark>>
by ipsos on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 12:31:12 AM EST
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Re: DAILY KOS Split Coming Up on O'REILLY (2.00 / 3)

I can see it now, people at Kos laughing right now and they have no idea why...seriously, are you listening to yourselves?

Are you going to start posting tidbits from Sean Hannity next?

O'Reilly would no sooner support a Democrat than Rush would and yet here you are...


"If you ever post anything on that website again, I will shove a motherboard so far up your a$$...!" C.J Cregg
by JenKinFLA on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 09:03:23 PM EST

He's supporting one RIGHT NOW (none / 0)

and while he does, I support him.


by earthoat on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 11:41:07 PM EST
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Re: DAILY KOS Split Coming Up on O'REILLY (1.71 / 7)

You know, I signed on to this site to see what kind of discussion was happening here and to listen to HRC supporters (because I was once one). And this is what I find?

Really, I can't tell if this is a Republican or a Democratic site.


by DrPolitics on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 09:11:30 PM EST

Sad, sad, sad (2.00 / 3)

I remember when mydd was about Democratic substance.

And now we've got a diary that recommends O'Reilly attacking a progressive blog.

Sad.

If O'Reilly attacked Clinton, I doubt Dailykos would cheer.  (Although they would if Olbermann did).


by maconblue on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 09:15:56 PM EST

Yes, Daily Kos is too noble for that. (none / 0)


by earthoat on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 10:35:30 PM EST
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You mean O'Reilly (none / 0)

attacking "The Kos/Obama" show?


by Hedda Lettuce1 on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 11:40:04 PM EST
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Re: Sexism is progressive? (none / 0)

Kos tipped his hand way back in 2005, what we are seeing now with his treatment of Hillary is not surprising:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/6/6/1 125/10793

And I certainly won't let the sanctimonious women's studies set play that role on this site. Feel free to be offended. Feel free to claim that I'm somehow abandoning "progressive principles" by running the ad. It's a free country. Feel free to storm off in a huff. Other deserving bloggers could use the patronage.

Me, I'll focus on the important shit.

p.s. And congratulations -- the more people have bitched about the ad, the more successful it has become...


by Larissa on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 07:35:49 AM EST
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wow... (none / 0)

earthoat watching O'Reilly again...

I am going with...congrats Rethug.


-- be excellent to each other
by kindthoughts on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 09:19:20 PM EST

Shame on you (2.00 / 4)

I left Dkos a couple of months ago when the Obama thugs started troll rating Hillary supporters and uprating their worst contributors.

But I never, ever would rejoice in Bill O'Reilly airing our dirty laundry and I know absolutely that even though we have differences in who we support, we are all in this boat together and will sink as one if that be our fate.


by manny on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 09:30:34 PM EST

If Fox News is giving her good coverage (none / 0)

then I'm staying with Fox News for as long as it lasts.
Should I be watching Cafferty smearing her?
Should I watch Keith O smearing her?
by earthoat on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 10:34:05 PM EST
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Re: If Fox News is giving her good coverage (2.00 / 4)

A few years ago my brother, who is no wingnut, gave me a book for Christmas by someone he saw on television and who had impressed.  I think the year was 98 or 99. The book was, I believe titled  The No Spin Zone, by you guessed it, Bill O'Reilly.

Well, I had heard of him to, back then he hadn't reached the level of hate that he would in the subsequent years.  I didn't have any feelings about him at all.

But I did read his book, and it quickly became clear to me that the underlying theme of that book was to smear Hillary Clinton in every chapter, in every way.  By time I was 3/4 through (and that is all that I read) I was convinced that the book was motivated by his hate for Hillary Clinton.

So, my friend, be careful who you align yourself with.  The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend, and I assure you that Bill O'Reilly will be back to his hate screed against Hillary post haste.

Peace.


by manny on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 11:40:24 PM EST
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You don't have to tell me about Fox! (none / 0)

I used to raise unholy hell when Gore was running against Chimp.

But this is not THEN, it is NOW.  And for WHATEVER REASON, Fox is the ONLY station actively helping Clinton.  
Every other cable news station is trying to kill her off.

Are you going to support CNN, with Campbell Brown and Jack Cafferty smearing Clinton wherever they can?

If Fox is saying things that help HRC get elected, then I will keep my TV on Fox until the wind shifts.  


by earthoat on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 12:24:50 AM EST
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So because of this (none / 0)

will Olbermann make O'Reilly the 'Worst Person in the World' tomorrow?


by Coldblue on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 09:31:44 PM EST

won't do him much good (none / 0)

Never thought I'd see the day when I'd be watching KO's nemesis.  The revenge is sweet.


by earthoat on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 10:29:36 PM EST
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no. hillary is (none / 0)

but to olbermann, and Tweety, and Bill Maher and all of them I'd say, there's a lot of us Hillary supporters and we're done with you.


by Hedda Lettuce1 on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 11:41:14 PM EST
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I'm not surprised by .... (2.00 / 1)

the commentary here.

You wrote a diary reporting on an event and how it is being covered on one particular (and admittedly bad) 'news' outlet.

You did not 'gloat', you were not 'gleeful' and you did not make any attempt to poke your finger in anyone's eye with your information.

Yet you are being treated as if you were an O'Reilley supporter, which we all know that no Democrat ever could be, and you are being  castigated for 'airing' the divide on of all places, Faux.  When the folks over at the orange cesspool were denigrating every Hillary supporter at every opportunity, did they not envision that this was the ultimate outcome?

Were they not aware that Bill O would just wait his time to shed his own brand of (ugh) 'light' on the division and the vitriol at dKos?

The folks decrying your reporting of this 'coverage' need to look back at the site where this all began for someone to blame, not at you for reporting this.


Hell's bells, even the GOP didn't have to crucify Eisenhower's record in order to make Reagan their 'saint'. We can have two great ones, you know?
by emsprater on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 10:37:43 PM EST

It's SO pathetic that Olbermann Posts (1.33 / 3)

at DailyKos.

That's what's pathetic.  No wonder Fox's ratings keep going up and MSNBC is canceling shows and losing viewership daily.

If you watch MSNBC you're not getting any kind of reality based news AND you're watching something that has less than one third of 1% of America watching.  And less every day.

Olbermann is a worse joke than the ones he tells.  He spends his time looking up Britney Speares skirt, and pretending he doesn't like doing it......every day.

If anyone around here wants to defend Olbermann's DAILY reports of what he's seen inside Britney's vagina, unjournalistic Diary Writing on Daily Kos (can you really be objective, when you are beholden), and his blatant attempts to affect the Democratic Primaries then go ahead.

But some of us enjoy a real Democracy, and leave places once the information becomes useless, unreliable, and filled with blatant lies.


by chieflytrue on Tue Mar 18, 2008 at 10:43:19 PM EST

Keith does have the annoying habit of beating up (none / 0)

on one young woman or another.
I remember emailing him about this a few years ago, and getting a terse reply.
That was WAY back when he had time to answer emails.
by earthoat on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 09:35:01 AM EST
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Re: DAILY KOS Split Coming Up on O'REILLY (2.00 / 2)

At this point, I'm wondering what separates the Clinton campaign from a Republican campaign.

Thing one: Bill O'Reilly hates DailyKos.  He hates DailyKos because it doesn't let things go down the memory hole.  Kind of like Media Matters.  Bill O'Reilly calls it liberal elitist totalitarianism...and Clinton surrogates are more than happy to agree.

Thing two: The Clinton campaign dismisses and insults entire states as irrelevant.  The only other campaigns that do that are Republican campaigns.  "Hollywood liberal."  "San Francisco values."  "Liberal Senator from Massachussetts."

Thing three: The Clinton campaign routinely insults Democratic voters.  They're "latte-sipping, Prius-driving trust fund babies."  The "latte-sipping crowd."  "Boutique states."  Guess who else does that?  Republicans.  Remember the "sushi-eating, latte drinking, Volvo-driving, New York Times reading, etc" of Club for Growth fame?  Aren't the similarities eerie?

Thing four: Clinton surrogates go on Fox News to complain that black people are getting ahead on affirmative action.  I hear the same thing on my right-wing talk radio just about every single time I turn it on.

Thing five:  Clinton praises McCain at Obama's expense.  Needless to say, most Republicans praise McCain at Obama's expense.

Am I leaving something out?


by hekebolos on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 12:19:44 AM EST

Jehmu Wright is a black woman for HRC (none / 0)

I am a former Deaniac for HRC.
Obama's health and economic proposals are to the far right of Clinton's.  Progressive columnest Krugman called his proposals Republican.
Obama is incredibly conservative in all aspects.
by earthoat on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 09:26:53 AM EST
[ Parent ]

next time (none / 0)

try replying to the substance of what I said, instead of throwing out non-sequiturs to my argument.


by hekebolos on Wed Mar 19, 2008 at 09:35:25 PM EST
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