The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama

The skinny kid with the funny name from Hawaii had a great run.  By forcing all four other candidates off the ballot, including the woman who had reached out to help him, he maneuvered his way into the Illinois State Legislature.  There, he found an extortionist and money launderer  who channeled hundreds of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions his way, while helping land a plum real estate deal. Then, in spite of an undistinguished career in the state legislature where he repeatedly pushed the wrong button on votes, he found another backer in the Illinois Senate who funneled dozens of bills his way to sponsor  -- even though others had done the groundwork for years and were thus robbed of the recognition they deserved -- thus padding Obama's credentials for a national Senate run, in exchange for Obama later pushing through $300 million of earmarks in return.  

Once in the Senate, he found a couple of other prominent supporters who were anxious to tear down the Clintons and, lo and behold, the first term Senator was running for president, in spite of earlier promising he would complete his first term and admitting he was too inexperienced to seek national office.

And, the funny thing is, he came so close.  Riding on his oratorical skills and the backing of one of the wealthiest media magnates in the world, he put together a coalition of African Americans and  and upper-income voters.  Despite receiving a minority of votes cast by whites, Latinos, and Asians, and losing 7 of the largest 8 states in the nation (all except his home state of Illinois), his big margins in some Southern States and midwestern caucus states gave him a decent lead in delegates over Hillary Clinton.  By stalling efforts at a revote in Florida, he looked like he had a good chance of keeping his lead in delegates and popular votes into the Democratic convention, where he and his supporters could extortion votes from remaining Super Delegates by threatening not to support Hillary Clinton if nominated.

Though potential road blocks emerged, particularly with the start of the Rezko trial, the media continued to treat Obama with kid gloves at the same time that it pilloried Hillary Clinton.  All that started to change though as the race drew to an end, with Obama having emerged as the frontrunner.  In the end, it was the controversy over his pastor and spiritual advisor, Jeremiah Wright, that brought Obama down.  A series of videos emerged -- sold and promoted by Wright's church itself -- which showed Wright angrily denouncing "the United States of White America" and "USKKKA", which he said, purposely introduced AIDS into the Black community and brought the Sept. 11 attacks on itself.  Wright also said that Hillary Clinton was not deserving of the presidency because "she's never been called a nigger," and proclaimed "God Damn America" as an alternative to God bless America.  The repeated broadcast of Wright angrily making these pronouncements becamed seared in the nation's consciousness.

Obama attempted to rescue himself by criticizing Wright's remarks, dropping Wright from the campaign's African American religious committee, and implying that he was not aware of these stands until recently.  However, given that Obama had attended Wright's church for 20 years, been married by him, had his children baptized by him, donated tens of thousands of dollars per year to his church, and lauded him in his book, Audacity of Hope (appropriately named for one of Wright's slogans), the public wasn't buying it.  Obama's popularity among every group but African Americans sank like a stone.

The first bad news came on April 22 in Pennsylvania, a state that the Obama campaign itself projected to lose by only 5 points.  In the end, Obama lost by 20, getting barely a quarter of the white vote.   Guam tilted for Clinton as well, and then the crushing blow came on May 6, when Obama narrowly lost two sizeable states he had projected to win, Indiana and North Carolina.  Not unexpectedly, West Virginia and Kentucky went by huge margins for Clinton, who then squeezed out a win in Oregon as well.  Clinton picked up dozens of delegates in a big Puerto Rico win, and won a narrow victory in the Michigan revote as well.  The Montana and South Dakota primaries were close, but by that time the result was foretold.

Clinton's string of victories had pulled her close to Obama in both the delegates and popular vote, with Obama's margin in both dependent on exclusion of Florida.  Obama had fallen far behind in the national polls, both directly against Clinton and in comparison with Clinton in match-ups with McCain.  His string of defeats, including in states he had been expected to win, and his low level of approval among whites, Hispanics, and Asians, indicated that he didn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning the national election.  Every day, more and more super delegates were announcing their support for Hillary.  Her nomination was secured.  The only question that remained was whether Obama would maintain enough support from pledged and super delegates to force Hillary to accept him as her VP.  If so, he still had a chance to redeem himself and survive to run again another day.



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Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (1.60 / 5)

well, it was fun while it lasted, but his critical mistake was to confuse a bunch of upper-income white liberals and the black population for a coalition. coalitions are groups of people who have each others' backs.
by campskunk on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 08:57:55 AM EST

Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (2.00 / 2)

How do you get to this weird conclusion?


by marcotom on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 09:22:05 AM EST
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What color is the sky in this bizarro world? (2.00 / 2)

Clinton's string of victories had pulled her close to Obama in both the delegates and popular vote,

A string of victories like Wyoming and Mississippi? Not even the votes of 50,000 of HeadRush's dittoheads could swing Mississippi into Hillary's collumn.


McCain's occupation plan will achieve victory when it bestows liberty to the freedom loving people of Iraq and their freedom loving oil.
by Lefty Coaster on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 04:17:04 PM EST
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Re: What color is the sky in this bizarro world? (2.00 / 2)

Obama is +160 in pledged delegates according to realpolitics


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 04:58:09 PM EST
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Re: What color is the sky in this bizarro world? (none / 0)

106, not 160. And he still can't close the deal. Rather wimpy for such a big talker.


by RMC on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 12:52:05 AM EST
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Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (none / 0)

He swore off the Kool-Aid.


by RMC on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 12:50:55 AM EST
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You are right about this (none / 0)

and are describing the only way for Clinton to win.

Thanks for setting expectations!

Because if she doesn't win Pa, Indiana and NC by double digits she can't win.


by fladem on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 01:20:29 PM EST
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Re: You are right about this (none / 0)

Then the Dems may end up having no candidate at all. Because after JEREMIAH no one's going to want to touch Obama with a barge pole. Talk about political suicide. 'You voted for HIM??' Hey.


by RMC on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 12:53:40 AM EST
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The Fall of Shrillery (1.07 / 13)

If anyone will be responsible for Mac, it will be Hillary Clinton, her trail of burned bridges, and her legions of pitchfork wielding douchebags. And you can take that to the bank.
by defibialater on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 01:43:38 PM EST
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It is awfully telling... (none / 0)

who uprated this, uh, remark.


by Soitgoes on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 09:35:36 PM EST
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Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (2.00 / 1)

.but thanks to Fox News..(I never thought I would say this)

Been a lot of Clinton-love going to FoxNews lately.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTGbI8pzv qk

that oughta tell you something, but I don't for a moment imagine it will


by BlueinColorado on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 01:47:26 PM EST
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Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (none / 0)

You do realize that she was joking with a bit of sarcasm towards Rove, right?


by observer11 on Mon Mar 17, 2008 at 12:01:23 AM EST
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Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (2.00 / 5)

this is very impressive.

The Clinton team needs people like you instead of Mark Penn.

I actually  believe all of it.

America deserves a President who surrounds and associates himself with people who love this country.

While I will criticize all of the negative aspects of this country, it is clearly the honest thing to emphasize ulitmately and proudly that the USA is the greatest country every created.

Hillary knows this.  I think Obama knows this too.  But he has chosen to play political games by associating with these people who are anti-American and full of hate.  They are delusional and wrong.  Not completely wrong. But wrong nonetheless.

It is distressing that so many educated and otherwise good Americans are still defending Obama's history. It makes me wonder what would it really take to convince them to stand for what is right?


by yellowdem1129 on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 08:58:13 AM EST

Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (1.66 / 3)

stand for what is right? so Repub talking points are now what progressives should stand for? No thanks.


by marcotom on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 09:23:09 AM EST
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"Repub talking points are now what (2.00 / 1)

progressives should stand for?"

I guess many here think that since they have been using them on Hillary -- and old, refuted ones, at that!!


by jentwisl on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 03:14:35 PM EST
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Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (1.00 / 0)

OOOOH! Shiny Lights! I LOVE shiny lights! Will there be 1000 of them? (and more importantly - will they be pointy?)
by defibialater on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 06:26:05 PM EST
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Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (1.66 / 6)

Wow, nice prediction.

Can you tell me the numbers for the Megamillions Lotto on Tuesday?


Bill Foster would agree, Barack Obama has coat tails.
by Walt Starr on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 08:59:37 AM EST

Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (none / 0)

Heh.  Maybe.

Maybe not!


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 09:03:30 AM EST

Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (1.00 / 1)

Snark much?


What would LBJ do?
by Socks The Cat on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 09:19:51 AM EST

Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (2.00 / 2)

This is a fantastic diary. It's nice to see a work of non-fiction here. Well written, easy to follow and interesting to read. Woo Hoo!

Only one thing: The "wealthiest media magnates" link doesn't seem to be correct. Unless I am missing something which is entirely possible.


by Fleaflicker on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 09:29:40 AM EST

Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (2.00 / 2)

Thanks.  I fixed the link.


by markjay on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 09:33:51 AM EST
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Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (1.50 / 2)

You seem to be confused aobut the meaning of "non-fiction", here let me help you out:
Non-fiction- Obama leads by every verifiable metric
Fiction- Hillary is going to win the nomination

Or heck let me remove our canidates from it and use the GOP people they resemble as frontrunner adn person behind

Non-Ficiton- McCain had a untouchablelead after super tuesday
Fiction- Huckabee was going to win the nomination.

I hope that cleared things up for you, I know you Hill people sometime have trouble distinguishing fantasy from reality. but here's a quick clue if your dog is talking to you and telling you about Hillary's road to victory-- its probably a hallucination.


by Socraticsilence on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 12:57:21 PM EST
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Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (2.00 / 1)

  Oh No, a Black Seperatist!!! I'm personally shocked to suddenly find out (from Faux news, no less...) that some black people aren't happy with the way they've been treated these last 400 YEARS! How can they be so un-American as to express even the slightest hint that they are anything but eternally grateful for all of the wonderful things our government has done for them? Some folks just don't know how to say thank you, eh?


by Kordo on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 03:02:02 PM EST
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Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (none / 0)

I hope you were being sarcastic.


by Pravin on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 03:54:45 PM EST
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Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (2.00 / 2)

I have a really big bridge to sell ya.  It is in the really beautiful part of the country.  In San Francisco.


by Spanky on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 09:30:04 AM EST

Clinton beats Obama on experience?? (1.42 / 7)

McCain beats Clinton on experience.

Clinton beats Obama on jingo-istic "I Love America! Where is your flag pin, Muslim, er, black hatred Christian?"

McCain beats Clinton hands down on jingo-istic patriotism.

After vehemently denouncing blacks and mocking college educated liberals, Clinton cannot possibly pivot in time to win them back for the GE.

If TeamHillary defeats Obama using the politics of personal destruction, you will then face a smiling John McCain who will say:

"I don't think Rezko and Wright were such a big deal. Tell me Hillary, do you actually enjoy employing the politics of personal destruction?"

Then, John McCain drinks Clinton's milkshake.


No vetting is complete until we've seen the tax returns.
by Bill White on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 09:33:38 AM EST

Re: Clinton beats Obama on experience?? (1.91 / 12)

Clinton did not denounce blacks what a lie that is such garbage you are spouting, she did no such thing.  Hillary Clinton is no racist, but it seems that Obama's mentor and wife are.  The politics of personal destruction?  It is the Obama supporters who trash talk, just like your post which is so full of garbage those are the people who are doing the politics of personal destruction, you, you are the one who is doing the very thing your are decrying.  Look in a mirror.

And wise up, you may be so enraptured with Obama but the rest of us are not so blind that we can't see Obama has some serious problems, you can't dismiss them just because you want to overlook them, others will not be so forgiving.  You are the one who is suffering from the disease, not Hillary.  Sure she is a politician, but then that is all Obama is too, just another politician, not a savior, not even a truth teller, not a uniter but a divider who will cause the democratic party to lose if he is the nominee.


democrat voter
by democrat voter on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 09:43:51 AM EST
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Hmmm . . . (2.00 / 2)

I see a LOT of anger from you and LITTLE analysis.

But maybe I am blinded by the latte.

Cheers!


No vetting is complete until we've seen the tax returns.
by Bill White on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 10:32:01 AM EST
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Re: Hmmm . . . (none / 0)

thats great coming from you. Where is your analysis?


Rise, Hillary, Rise
by sepulvedaj3 on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 02:50:36 PM EST
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Re: Hmmm . . . (1.00 / 1)

Exactly, but I have found traveling through the blogs, that Obama followers don't have much to say.  So, they attack, change the subject or blame Hillary (and her supporters).  Most with more vitriol and colorful language; this one was quite mild but still quite disingenuous.


by anya109 on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 05:55:10 PM EST
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Re: Clinton beats Obama on experience?? (2.00 / 2)

It is absolutely garbage. Well put. Gutter politics.


by Fleaflicker on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 11:58:18 AM EST
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Re: Clinton beats Obama on experience?? (2.00 / 4)

Your candidate started this race baiting. Jesse Jackson Jr. started it all.


by Fleaflicker on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 11:57:23 AM EST
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Re: Clinton beats Obama on experience?? (none / 0)

Do you have any idea what comments like this sound like to people who don't have a bone in this fight?  You sound like 6 year old complaining to his/her mother.  

Clinton started it!  

No, Obama started it!  

Step back from your computer.  This fight is dangerously close to insane.  Wake up people!   Neither of these candidates are evil.  No matter how much you might now wish for that to be true.


by slippy on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 06:06:05 PM EST
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Re: Clinton beats Obama on experience?? (2.00 / 4)

When did Clinton denounce Blacks?? That is a pure lie.

McCain does not necessarily beat Clinton on experience or on patriotism.

His experience is entirely in the Senate - she has experience as First Lady, in Arkansas, and the Senate.

Regarding Patriotism - again, she was First Lady.


by nikkid on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 12:41:21 PM EST
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This is beyond the pale (none / 0)

vehemently denouncing blacks and mocking college educated liberals

You can't just make crap up.  It's self-destructive.  Even if your candidate wins, he's living off of and in one of those tangled webs that you weave when, you know, you practice to so forth and so on.  

The truth will find you eventually, and it will reconcile things.


by Trickster on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 01:41:16 PM EST
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Trickster, we have the video from OH (none / 0)

Birkenstocks, lattes, hybrid cars . . .


No vetting is complete until we've seen the tax returns.
by Bill White on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 02:13:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Wait a minute... (2.00 / 4)

I've really had it with this whole "Hillary unleashes the politics of personal destruction on noble Obama" meme. They are both politicians. They have both played hardball and thrown a lot of elbows. I could make an argument about who has been worse and who started it but I'm not going to go there now. What I am going to say is that it's utterly absurd and wishful thinking taken to an extreme to blame Clinton for Obama's association with Wright and for the play that's getting in the media now.

Obama made his choices in this regard, so put the blame where it belong - on Obama. And be grateful that this is coming out now, rather than after he's nominated and facing McCain in the general. Maybe we still have a chance to nominate the more electable candidate (in my opinion). Maybe the exposure this is getting now will help immunize Obama in the general, if he's the nominee.

But blaming Clinton? Come on.


by OtherLisa on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 03:08:37 PM EST
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Agree (2.00 / 2)

I'm still trying to figure out how "fairy tale" was a racist remark.

In one of the most crucial Dem primaries in years Dems need to have an honest, undisrupted discussion about candidates qualifications and ability to win and lead under pressure.

Yet every time the subject comes up someone diverts the discussion to the wedge issue of "racism".  Brilliant tactic, but not productive.

Can we expect the same thing if Obama wins the WH? Every time we question one of his decisions, he'll cry racism?  We've had 8 years of a president who was immune to public criticism, why would we want to put ourselves through that again?


by Betsy McCall on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 03:56:33 PM EST
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Re: Agree (none / 0)

Yet every time the subject comes up someone diverts the discussion to the wedge issue of "racism".  Brilliant tactic, but not productive.

Similarly, every time Hillary talks about national security issues, the Obama campaign tries to divert the discussion to one of "fear."

Hillary Clinton: candidate of racism and fear.

Give it a rest.


by He Who Must Not Be Named on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 04:22:14 PM EST
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Re: Agree (none / 0)

Yet every time the subject comes up someone diverts the discussion to the wedge issue of "racism".  Brilliant tactic, but not productive.

That's one of the reasons I'm so proud of the Clinton campaign. You never hear anyone suggest that critiquing her vote on Iraq or her lack of leadership in the Senate for the last eight years is just a mask for the hateful misogyny that motivates all Obama supporters.


by BlueinColorado on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 05:10:46 PM EST
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Re: Agree (none / 0)

I believe that it is a disingenous argument that "masks" (reference to BlueinColorado) the reality of Obama voting like most Dems on the war and not being any type of leader to get out of Iraq (you know, a "fairy tale" - attributed to Bill Clinton, when he correctly demonstrates that Obama is not the antiwar candidate).


by anya109 on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 06:02:19 PM EST
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Re: Agree (none / 0)

"a mask for the hateful misogyny that motivates all Obama supporters"

This comment is certifiable.  Do you really believe this?  Wow.  This thing has crossed a line way over into almost complete insanity.

Neither candidate, nor their supporters are anything like this quote.  You are contributing to a spiral of Democratic party implosion.

This is my last comment here at MyDD, I just came by to see what was going on.


by slippy on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 06:13:07 PM EST
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Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (2.00 / 6)

Very interesting.  I hope that the SDs are rethinking their votes for this nomination, I also hope that Obama loses badly in Pennsylvania.  I wish Nancy Pelosi would just shut up already.  The thing she should have done was not take impeachment of the current occupant in the WH off the table, where her opinion was the most important opinion there is, but in this nomination process she has exactly one vote, just like any other SD.  Now she wants to insert herself where she has no authority and makes no sense because how do you determine the will of the people and at what time are you determining the will of the people.  Before the Wright mess and Rezko trial or after it.  The only people who are now for Obama are the coolaid drinkers, the other people who were not yet on board the Obama gravy train will now not get onboard due to this dust up about these tawdry matters with Obama.  These revelations make Obama basically unelectable.  If the democratic party insists on putting him as our nominee, he will lose the Nov election.  That would be so tragic because we could win with Hillary, even if they force her to put Obama on the ticket, which would be at this time a detriment but the AA community may not be happy unless he is.  However surely the Obama supporters must see if they can look at this thing dispassionately that he has become a liability because of this ugly hate speech from his pastor and mentor.  Unacceptable.

One thing that the DNC must do is seat the Florida delegates and count those votes.  I saw a state senator from Fl this morning on C-span and he said that the DNC gave wavers to Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina because they all moved up their primaries and caucuses, so they only denied Florida a waver.  It seems to me the simplest solution is to grant that waver to Florida, there is no reason that the waver should not be granted, after all they gave those other states wavers.  It is selective discrimination to give those other states wavers and deny Floridqa one just to prove they have the power. As for following the rules, they are the rule makers, they are the waver givers, they already gave other states wavers so it is right to give Florida one.  This would fix the problem, they need Florida this fall and the state senator says that if Fl is not seated now, they could not count on winning Fl in the fall.  It seems more important to me to be concerned with the fall election than some selective rule that they made and can change with a simple waver.  The claims from the Obama campaign are only self serving because Obama lost the state.  He is ahead now, he should allow those votes to count, 1.75 million democrats voted in the primary and those voters must be respected after all they had no say on when they voted, they did vote, count the votes.


democrat voter
by democrat voter on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 09:35:22 AM EST

Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (none / 0)

And yet they knew their vote would not count.  No waiver should be granted and those delegates should not be seated.

We need another answer.


What would LBJ do?
by Socks The Cat on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 09:56:21 AM EST
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Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (2.00 / 4)

The fact that the electorate found the need to express their voices through their votes demonstrates that their votes should NOT be disenfranchised. If they felt strongly enough to go out and vote even though they were told their votes may not count it clearly shows that they have chosen democracy over the DNC. And our Democratic party used to respect that.


by Fleaflicker on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 12:10:31 PM EST
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Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (none / 0)

Unfortunately, that was the "bad old Democratic Party that actually said that "every vote should count".

The new Democratic Party says:"Every vote should count only if it goes to the candidate that I want and all others are not worthy cause the rules are the rules".  I think I heard that refrain before.


by anya109 on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 06:05:53 PM EST
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Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (none / 0)

Because impeachment was such a boon for the GOP in 90s it only you know doubled Clinton's ratings for an impotent gesture (and make no mistake if we somehow got a bill of impeachment through the house, it would have been shutdown in the Senate just like the GOP was v. Clinton).


by Socraticsilence on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 01:02:58 PM EST
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Florida will vote in the GE (none / 0)

and ignoring Dem voters there would be a mistake for the DNC.

Time to put it to rest and take up the argument in 4 yrs.  Its no longer relevant.


by Betsy McCall on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 03:59:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]

The Amazing Kreskin! (none / 0)


by Brillobreaks on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 10:13:56 AM EST

Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (2.00 / 4)

I must say, with all due respect, your synopsis above there is full of fail.

I certainly am not a college educated, upper-middle class liberal, nor black. I doubt seriously that Obama could have won Iowa- I was born and raised there- and taking a look at the breakdown, he did well even in the middle of farm country, rife with rednecks and immigrants. He won Virginia, where I currently live, even places like Roanoke and Richmond, which are NOT your typical "inner city libruls". And you're telling me Wyoming, Utah, Idaho, etc, are full of enough college educated, latte sipping whites/African Americans to make a coalition?

I went to both an Obama and a Clinton campaign stop while they were in my area. The line for tickets for the Obama show stretched for almost half a mile. The Clinton show was not sold out. What's more, I saw people from all walks of life at the Obama rally; we have sizeable Indian (from India), Japanese, and southeast Asian communities in my city) and they were well represented in the crowd, amongst your aforementioned "black and latte white" group.

The Clinton group was strictly white, and mostly older women. Indeed, mostly women period. I'd say 75% of the crowd was women.

Now, you tell ME about coalitions. Or can you have women be your main draw because "that's okay"?


Hooray for John McCain!
by ragekage on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 10:15:43 AM EST

Missing the point (1.00 / 2)

As the OP pointed out, Obama is a flash in the pan, not qualified to serve as president with questionable experience and a career record of only looking out for his own personal ambitions.

He got this far in the primary through clever marketing, lots of money from special interests and by cleverly introducing a controversial wedge issue to attack his opponents every time they questioned him on experience or issues.

That doesn't make him a good candidate nor a good potetntial president, regardless of which demographics support him.


by Betsy McCall on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 04:03:46 PM EST
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I like this part (1.50 / 2)

"regardless of which demographics support him."

way to insult millions of people.


-- be excellent to each other
by kindthoughts on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 11:02:06 PM EST
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Funny stuff (2.00 / 2)

These are the kinds of fantasies I whip up in times of despair too. Well, especially in moments of false hope when it appears like everything is going to change. Like when your team is down 35-10 early in the 4th quarter and you get a turnover and head for a touchdown. Then you think. "Well, that'll make it 35-17. Then if we hold them and get the ball back, we can score again quickly and make it 35-24. Then maybe they'll get another turnover and make it 35-31. And then an onside kick and who knows?"

It worked for the Bills against the Oilers one time. Keep Hope Alive!!!


by elrod on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 10:23:39 AM EST

GOP thankful to Obama (they should be!) (1.80 / 10)

good diary, but it may be too late. Even if Hillary will win PA, IN, WV, KY & PR,
Obama still has a chance to be nominated despite his misjudgments (Wright, Rezko),
idiotic health plan, double talk (NAFTA/CTV) and a lot of other problems he has.

This means that he actually played for GOP the role of the internal bomb inside Democratic Party:

  1. he managed to do to Clintons what GOPs never abled to do;
  2. he managed to deeply divide Democratic Party
  3. he managed Democratic party to (almost) nominate the candidate, which is doomed to lose in landslide (as McGovern or Dukakis) to a very weak GOP candidate
in the year where everybody hates GOPs and Democrats have the best chance to get to the power again.

Good job, Mr. Obama, GOPs have to return you the favor - but they will do that only after the will swiftboat you
(just take look on what FNN did yesterday and more to come)!


Welcome to a Landslide without white Working class, Latinos, Women, Seniors and holding-on sweeties
by engels on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 10:30:29 AM EST

Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (2.00 / 4)

He managed to divide the Democratic party? How so? By getting more voters to support him?


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 11:24:28 AM EST

Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (2.00 / 1)

Yes - more voters to vote for HIM - not Democratic initiatives.
Heck! in Texas, Obama voters didn't even vote for the rest of the ticket.

And since Obama's campaign has been based on HIM - in the general those Repubs and Indys will base their vote on HIM (and Wright and Michelle's comments) - not Dem policies.


Hillary/Obama08
by annefrank on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 01:06:57 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (2.00 / 1)

I guess that's why he went +10 in Iowa yesterday.  All those folks are cult members or Republicans or something.


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 02:37:10 PM EST
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Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (1.00 / 1)

Iowa doesn't represent the American electorate.


Hillary/Obama08
by annefrank on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 07:04:01 PM EST
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to you folks (2.00 / 1)

tens of state do not represent American electorate. Cause you know they are "insignificant".


-- be excellent to each other
by kindthoughts on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 11:03:11 PM EST
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Whether he got more voters is questionable (1.00 / 1)

Obama's success thus far was in his ability to leverage a decrepit caucus system in many states, one where most people who participated were not even required to show ID or prove they were registered voters.

Whether that's real voter support is questionable.


by Betsy McCall on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 04:07:05 PM EST
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everyone sucks (1.50 / 2)

and is a cheater when your candidate is losing I see.


-- be excellent to each other
by kindthoughts on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 11:03:48 PM EST
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Re: Any White Husband & Wife (1.77 / 9)

Any White Husband & Wife Democratic Politician who attended for 20 years a church with a Rev. Wright would have been CONDEMNED as a RACIST by the SAME Liberal whites & Blacks who are NOW supporting Obama. And to add insult, to ask the SAME RACIST Pastor to marry you & your wife, and baptized you two children.

And in this case, the IMPOSSIBILITY of TWO HIGHLY EDUCATED HARVARD LAWYERS not KNOWING nor being aware of All this Racial , Anti-American bigotry!

Its the biggest type of Hypocrisy.

If John & Liz Edwards or Bill & Hillary attended a predominantly White church in North Carolina or Arkansas, and the Pastor spewed All this Anti-American, Racial & Bigotry- Edwards & Clinton would be FINISHED!

Where is Ted Kennedy ? Where is Jesse Jackson?

I don't hear any White Liberals Speaking up ?

I don't hear African-Americans speaking up?

There is ONE thing I have NEVER BEEN SURE OF, Barack Obama will LOSE to  John McCain by a HUGE MARGIN in November! It  Would be in the magnitude of a Dukakis landslide.

This  VIDEO is the Final piece to the BREAK-UP of the Democratic coalition in Nov.

The Anti-White, Anti-American hate is the Nail in the coffin for Millions of White Moderate & Reagan Democratic voters. The Anti-Semetic is the FINAL Nail in the already weak JEWISH support for Obama. The Anti-USA spew is the final kiss of death for Latinos & Asians.

This thing is Over! White america would NEVER elect President & First Lady who has this garbage.

It was HARD ENOUGH to convince Whites,Latinos, & Asians to vote for him in the General Election, THIS LATEST puts the Nail in to coffin.

P.S. In the last 48 hours, there is ABSOLUTE pandemonium  in Right Talk Radio. They say, Now they understand why Michelle was NEVER proud to be an american. Its all the HATE, Anti-American that her & Barack get every sunday from a black bigot in Rev. Wright.

What do you call a follower who listens with his family to bigotry for 20 long years ?


by labanman on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 11:45:21 AM EST

Re: Any White Husband & Wife (1.75 / 4)

Take a Xanax, dude. Haven't you learned anything about talk radio? There will be "pandemonium" on there regardless of who the candidate - which is why we shouldn't let them influence who we choose as the nominee.


by amiches on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 12:19:12 PM EST
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Re: Any White Husband & Wife (2.00 / 2)

The MSM has been in Obama's camp from the gitgo - promoting their media created rockstar and concealing negative info about him from the public.
But - Obama's followers haven't been influenced by the media??!???
Hillary/Obama08
by annefrank on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 01:10:22 PM EST
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Re: Any White Husband & Wife (none / 0)

Right, which is why Wright and Rezko lead the nightly newscasts, but nothing on Kazakhstan, tax returns, or earmarks. You, too, can take a Xanax.


by amiches on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 02:08:50 PM EST
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Re: Any White Husband & Wife (2.00 / 1)

The question is why these stories weren't leading the nightly newscasts a year ago--the information was out there, especially in the case of Wright. Instead, the media was fixated on much more important candidate exposes, like the sotry about John Edwards' $400 haircut.


Fortune strums a mournful tune for those whose campaigns peak too soon. --Bored of the Rings
by Inky on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 02:34:14 PM EST
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Re: Any White Husband & (none / 0)

Stories about Wright have been out for six months now, and I'd challenge you to show me a mainstream outlet where the $400 haircut received serious attention.

Why is the first reflex of a defeated candidate's supporters to blame the media? Come to think of it, it's the same thing in sports.


by amiches on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 04:14:24 PM EST
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Re: Any White Husband & (none / 0)

Videos of Wright's sermons came out a few days ago, even thoughthey've been available for sale on their website this whole time. Talk about the MSM not performing due diligence.

I'd challenge you to show me a mainstream outlet where the $400 haircut received serious attention.

I can't believe that you're even serious about this. Here, take a look:

http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&a mp;hl=en&rlz=&q=edwards+%24400+d ollar+haircut&btnG=Google+Search

How about this? I challange you to name a major media outlet that did not cover it.


Fortune strums a mournful tune for those whose campaigns peak too soon. --Bored of the Rings
by Inky on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 04:24:36 PM EST
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Re: Any White Husband & (2.00 / 1)

Your link shows wingnut websites, blogs, and meta-coverage. Not mainstream media outlets.

When are the Clintons going to release their tax returns, presidential library donors, or Congressional earmarks? Better perform due diligence  on them, too.


by amiches on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 04:56:24 PM EST
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Re: Any White Husband & (none / 0)

I ask you again--name a major media outlet that did not cover the $400 haircut.

I see that you cannot.


Fortune strums a mournful tune for those whose campaigns peak too soon. --Bored of the Rings
by Inky on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 05:06:52 PM EST
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Re: Any White Husband & (none / 0)

You're asking me to prove a negative? You link to a google search that has nothing but blogs, freeper sites, and meta coverage and call that "every major media outlet"?

Come on.


by amiches on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 05:57:45 PM EST
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Re: Any White Husband & (none / 0)

No! I'm asking you prove a positive. I'm asking you to name just one major media outlet that did not cover the $400 haircut: ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN, Washington Post, New Times, Chicago Tribune, you name it.

Surely you can come up with one. You name just one such outlet, and it will be my job to prove you wrong.


Fortune strums a mournful tune for those whose campaigns peak too soon. --Bored of the Rings
by Inky on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 06:03:03 PM EST
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Re: Any White Husband & Wife (2.00 / 5)

Your comments about the absence of people speaking up against this heinous racism is right on the mark. The general consensus appears to be that the best way to deal with this is to sweep it under the carpet and move on. I say with confidence that this story will not only not go away, it will become much more prominent in the very near future.


by Fleaflicker on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 12:19:35 PM EST
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Re: Any White Husband & Wife (2.00 / 1)

While it is divisive to point to the fact that white people control the power structure in this country, it is not racist.


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 12:52:17 PM EST
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Re: Any White Husband & Wife (2.00 / 2)

Jesse Jackson won SC in 1984 and 1988.
That's a historical fact - but it's "racist" - remember?

Here's another "racist" statement according to Obama followers - "LBJ pushed and implemented MLK, Jr's dream."

Obama followers can "find" a "racist" statement or MOTIVE in just about every comment - but only comments made by those who support another candidate other than Obama.


Hillary/Obama08
by annefrank on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 01:15:03 PM EST
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Re: Any White Husband & Wife (none / 0)

Yes, the Jesse Jackson comment sounds a bit racist, though I do not believe that Bill Clinton is racist.

The LBJ comment, "it took a president to get it done" was not racist, but was racially insensitive, though I believe Hillary was speaking off the cuff and did not mean it to come across that way.

The Geraldine Ferraro statement was not off the cuff, was repeated on various news outlets, was unapologetic and was racist no matter how Geraldine spins it.  That doesn't mean Hillary and Bill are racists.  They didn't say it.

The Jesse Jackson Jr. comment was wrong and exposed a proclivity in him to see just about everything in terms of black or white, which is sad.

And finally, Rev. Wright spewed some hatred and some factually incorrect statements.  Similar to how Jesses Jackson won SC in 1984 and 1988 is a historical fact, so is the fact that Tuskeegee experiments were conducted on black men for 40 years, so is the fact that "Hillary has never been called a nigger."  Doesn't make it right to say.

Let's have some perspective in our comments


by shalca on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 02:53:41 PM EST
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Re: Any White Husband... (2.00 / 1)

Not to mention the "Bill Clinton riding dirty" remark, which was totally beyond the pale.


by OtherLisa on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 03:24:27 PM EST
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Looks like he peaked too early. (none / 0)

It's a shame. Barak Obama really does have Promise.

I've not been following all that closely. I'm not even sure what today's date is.

Hah!


by ROGNM on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 12:07:56 PM EST

Your imagining things (none / 0)

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Rv4zBbblUC8


I rock knobs
by Etchasketchist on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 12:11:58 PM EST

You're is the word youre looking for not YOUR (1.00 / 1)

 You may rock knobs, but you don't know the difference between your and you're


by patti on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 12:27:58 PM EST

Re: You're is the word youre looking for not YOUR (2.00 / 1)

Your last two comments on this site have typos... If you're going to play grammar police you should move out of that glass house.

HINT: You are biased, you are NOT bias.  People lose contests, they don't "loose" them.


Who puts gum on a roof?!
by thatpurplestuff on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 04:19:15 PM EST
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Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (2.00 / 4)

Excellent Diary. I especially liked reading about his Alice Palmer take down. Since I met Alice Palmer at Hillary Clinton's rally in Houston, I was unaware of Obama's underhanded means of taking her seat in the state senate.

I think more of his supporters should become aware of this so that they can see he is politics as usual, not the breathe of fresh air they thought or think he is.


by nikkid on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 12:37:08 PM EST

Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (none / 0)

It is so underhanded to make sure people follow the rules affecting who gets on the ballot!!!  It's cheating to follow the rules....


We care about politics because we know politics matters for people's lives and opportunities.
by politicsmatters on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 12:53:08 PM EST
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Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (2.00 / 1)

According to Obama followers - the rules don't count in Texas and Hillary is a B and "messing with Texas" because she's seeking the Truth.
 
Hillary/Obama08
by annefrank on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 01:17:52 PM EST
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I am not even sure (none / 0)

what you said. I think a bit more coherency would help.


-- be excellent to each other
by kindthoughts on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 02:26:07 PM EST
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Re: I am not even sure (none / 0)

In case you didn't know - Obama's campaign has promoted "Hillary is a B_ _ _ H!" ideology.
Need proof? check out DailyO rec list - where you'll find more twisted titles against Hillary than diaries promoting Obama.
Hillary/Obama08
by annefrank on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 07:09:58 PM EST
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so lets see if I got this straight (none / 0)

Obama's campaign promoted Hillary is a B** ideology. And your proof is in Dkos's rec list?

I guess if I find some Clinton supporters who say Obama is a n**** that means Hillary campaign is promoting that.

Or you know it just mean some people are stupid.

Take your pick.


-- be excellent to each other
by kindthoughts on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 08:39:31 PM EST
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Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (1.80 / 5)

Yes, Obama is toast in a general election.

That is why the MSM came to his rescue this morning, trying to downplay the Wright comments.

They consistently pillory the Clinton campaign--even over absolutely true remarks by Geraldine Ferraro, who has already gone from the Clinton camp.

And they act as though Obama's close friend, minister of twenty years, "spiritual advisor," creator of both his book title and credo "Audacity of Hope" the Reverend Wright's vehemently anti-White comments matter not a damn.

Of course they matter, very, very much.  The MSM knows this.  This was THE BIG STORY of the year.  It means the GOP has fodder for months to come, right on through November.

But alas, Senator Clinton is still "in it to win it," and she is poised to win Pennsylvania VERY BIG, and yes indeed West Virginia, Kentucky, and winner-take-all Puerto Rico.  If the preferances of Florida and Michigan were accepted, SHE would have the delegate lead, even now, and NOT Obama.

And there would be no talk of "insurmountable delegate leads" by Obama and company.

The MSM--shields for the Obama camp--are now desperate.  

They must try to salvage Obama, inasmuch as he is not yet the nominee.

And they know, coming down the pike, his path toward the nomination is rocky indeed.

That path much more favors her than him--even in Florida and Michigan, states she handily won already and in fair primaries would go her way once more.  

Not by "small percentages," as the Obama camp would have you believe.  Michigan and Florida voters all knew very well whom they were voting for--their choice in both states, overwhelmingly, was Hillary.  

The only reason they are not being seated or that their votes must be cast in another light is because those states did not go Obama's way.  

In other words, seating them as is gives Senator Clinton the lead going into the Convention.  And that is unacceptable to camp Obama and their MSM shields.

The Obama people have always lived in their delusional world.  

They believe that because Oprah Winfrey and the MSM now badly wants Obama, that magically he will prevail in the fall.

They believe that although he has not won a single blue state outside of Illinois, he will prevail in them anyway come the fall.

They believe that having lost 83 of 88 Ohio counties in the primary means nothing as to how they will do there in the fall.

They believe that the fact that they will also lose Pennsylvania big time on April 22 means nothing as to how they will do there in the fall.

They believe their largely Red State and Fringe State wins somehow puts those states all into play for them--even against a social moderate like John McCain.

And they truly believe that the Reverend Wright story is over--because the MSM, their shields, so informs them.

I truly pity the Obama folk.  

They are every bit as clueless as were all the blogosophere liberals who cast money and energy on behalf of defeating Joe Lieberman by way of Ned Lamont, and were then stunned when Lieberman as an independent handily won Connecticut in the general.

We in the Clinton camp have long known the media's hate.

The MSM loathed Bill Clinton, pronounced him dead dozens of times en route to his presidency in 1992.

They never allowed him a political honeymoon.

He was fully to blame for all events in Somalia--just a week into his presidency.

And the MSM and the GOP Right sought to massacre the Clinton health care proposal long before now Senator Hillary Clinton could advocate its merits.

The Newt Gingrich Radical Right Congress tortured Bill and Hillary Clinton for eight years.

The MSM and that Right Wing advocated their Impeachment and Resignation.

Ken Starr's Inquisition examined every aspect of Bill and Hillary's life, time and again.  Starr's group imprisoned close Clinton friends in efforts to "make them talk" against them.

The GOP Congress ingored the will of the people and impeached Bill Clinton.

Most media newspapers advocated his resignation.

But alas for them, instead, Bill Clinton prevailed--over the longest peacetime expansion in United States history.

He left office with sky-high approval ratings.  The deficit was under control, with a golden surplus, and there was peace in the world, with major initiatives in the Middle East and Northern Ireland.

And the MSM hated Bill Clinton all the more for it.

Hillary Clinton was asked to run for the Senate in New York state.

The MSM jeered, downplaying her chances.  Yet she won handily--and was well-liked in New York state, winning handily again in 2006.

And, after seven long years of GOP and GWB mismanagement, the MSM knew that the Clinton team was poised to make a major come-back.

Nothing was more unacceptable to the MSM than such a prospect.

The MSM's hated enemies coming back, to again restore that peace and prosperity?

Let America die first, the MSM thought--not if the MSM could help it.

The MSM wanted John McCain, closest to the Bush war philosophy, and after a rocky start, they got John McCain nominated.

But that still left Hillary Clinton in the running.

Now, how to stop her?

There was Barack Obama, their mannah from heaven.  Karl Rove and company knew that African-Americans would follow him out of racial pride.

And thus began the trashing of the "first black president," from blacks themselves.

This was a dream come true for the MSM.

Moveon.org, which came into existence to prevent the Clinton impeachment, now began to raise piles of money to defeat Hillary Clinton.

And Howard Dean, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Bill Bradlery and all the other also-rans of the Democratic Party, jealous as all hell because the Clintons had bested them, followed that Rovian line.

Thus, a segment of the Democratic Party itself was trashing its own last successful United States President and First Lady.

What a dream come true for the MSM!

Accordingly, Hillary was called dead on arrival after the first Iowa caucus, with all those bused-in and well paid Obama forces coalescing but no more truly representing Iowa than party-goers in a big hotel truly represent the sentiments of management.

She was supposed to lose New Hampshire.  All the MSM polls said so.  She won, sadly for them--and they wouldn't call thast state in her favor until after 11:00 P.M. EST.

She was supposed to lose Nevada.  After all, Obama had the support of Culinary Workers.  But Hillary won handily.  So the MSM narrative was that Obama ended up with one more delegate, whether true or false.

Neither Michigan nor Florida could count--with her huge margins of victory in both--because those states "violated the DNC rules," even though both Michigan and Florida were seminal in securing John McCain the GOP nomination.  

In the skewered logic of Obama World (and of MSM World), although everyone in the GOP knew very well whom they were voting for, the Dems at the same time couldn't be judged the same way.  After all, Obama hadn't campaigned in these.  Of course, no other candidate did either--but such is the illogic of Obama World.

Thus South Carolina--a GOP stronghold if ever there was one--represzented a big win for the Obama camp.  Although everyone by that time knew full well that the Democratic campaign by then was fully racial.  When Bill Clinton pointed out the obvious--that the Reverend Jesse Jackson had himself won that state by even bigger margins in 1988 and the MSM at that time had discounted that win as being racial--Bill Clinton, the "first black president" became a racist.

The GOP, Rove, Roger Ailes and company were now dancing for joy.  Surely they had killed off the Clintons at last, and from within their party!

But then came Super Tuesday.  MSM pollster John Zogby said that Obama was surging everywhere, that he would win California, even Massachusetts!  And the Kennedys and Oprah were everywhere--to make certain that the death of Hillary Clinton could be proclaimed.

The MSM had us believe that California was "competitive," or "too close to call" on Election Night.  Of course, California was never too close to call.  The Zogby pollsters had outright lied in an effort to promulgate Obama.

On Super Tuesday, save Obama's Illinois (and the wash in Missouri), all major states went Hillary Clinton's way.  And again other than his native Illinois, Obama won very Red and Fringe state America.

So the MSM could not pronounce her dead.

Accordingly, there came a "string of eleven wins" for Obama, largely out of unrepresentative caucuses (like Maine and Washington) and heavily independent Wisconsin, and of course heavily African-American primary states.

Thus, Hillary was pronounced dead--again!  Why, oh why, thought the MSM, was she not getting out?

Her epitaph was then scheduled for the Ohio/Texas/Rhode Island/Vermont quartet.

But alas, Hillary prevailed in three of the four, handily carrying Ohio and winning against all odds in the Texas primary.  Although she had been out-spent by team Obama by four-to-one or better, while most newspapers and of course broadcast journalism went Obama's way.

Sadly for the MSM, her epitaph was prematurely.

And even after heavily African-American Mississippi--wherein ominously for the fall, Senator Clinton received a whopping two-thirds of the White vote--and the GOP stalwart Wyoming, wherein Obama collected a mere two additional delegates, the MSM began trumpeting anew "Obama's insurmountable delegate lead."

Of course, this meant NOT COUNTING Michigan and Florida, as Democrats there actually voted.

That is the "inconvenient truth" of the Clinton-hating, pro-Obama MSM team.  Those key states as actually having voted must not be so represented.  Otherwise, team Obama is trailing in delegates.

Which brings us to today.  Geraldine Ferraro utters words of pure truth and leaves team Clinton.  But that story matters.  The Reverend Wright's vehemently anti-White and in fact anti-American commentaries, the perfect fodder for the GOP, does not matter.

Why?

We Clinton people know all too well.

Hillary is still "in it to win it."

The mission of the MSM in 2008 has yet to be accomplished--the Clintons are still standing.

So, while team Obama still believes their candidate is invincible, we Clintonites know otherwise.

We'll never have the press on our side.  We'll never have Obama's money.

We've got something else--real, bedrock blue (read Democrat) state America on our side.

We love the Clintons in Ohio, Florida, California, Texas, New York, New Jersey, Michigan, Massachusetts--and several more states besides--so that her current state primary wins alone would grant to her the presidency in the Electoral College come the fall.

The fact that Howard Dean's caucus and Red State wins for Obama have nothing to do with the Electoral College map in the fall is another "inconvenient truth."

And all the Clinton hate?  All the talk of forcing the Clintons out?

We Clintonites have been there many times before.

And the Clintons have ALWAYS triumphed.

Team Obama and his MSM shields are child's play for the Clintons after years of Inquisition and Impeachment.

She now only trails by a hundred or so delegates.  Before seating Michigan and Florida.  And before Pennsylvania.

We aren't remotely scared.  Our path to the nomination is much easier than the MSM can possibly imagine.

Which is why the MSM went to bat for team Obama this morning, acting as though the Reverend Wright's comments mattered not at all.

When they mattered very, very much.  In fact, that story is the beginning of the end of team Obama.

Next year, when the story of how President Hillary Clinton came to be is revealed, its significance will finally be truthfully told.


by lambros on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 12:43:19 PM EST

Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (none / 0)

Neither Michigan nor Florida could count--with her huge margins of victory in both--because those states "violated the DNC rules," even though both Michigan and Florida were seminal in securing John McCain the GOP nomination.  

Um, just thought I'd point this out, McCain lost Michigan pretty badly.


by Socraticsilence on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 01:08:47 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (2.00 / 2)

The MSM has manipulated the primary from the gitgo! - and even now - are doing whatever it takes to continue the process.
It's more money for them!

Hillary/Obama08
by annefrank on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 01:20:49 PM EST
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Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (2.00 / 2)

And the Clintons have ALWAYS triumphed.

Winning a three way GE in '92.

Losing health care reform with a Democratic majority.

Losing a forty year majority in Congress in '94.

Being impeached by not convicted.

Beating Rick Lazio in a blue state.

Voting for George Bush's war.

Beating some guy who himself barely notice he was running in a blue state.

Losing the "inevitable" Democratic nomination to someone her supporters describe as an "empty suit", and blaming everything and everyone but her own bad instincts (especially that war vote).

Those are some pretty debatable "triumphs".


by BlueinColorado on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 01:28:17 PM EST
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Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (2.00 / 2)

Great analysis.  We know better.

I haven't met a single Hillary supporter who felt defeated.  We are more determine than ever that she's in it to win it.  

MSM propaganda have no impact on us because we live in reality.
The road to the White House is getting clearer everyday for HRC.


by JoeySky18 on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 01:40:32 PM EST
[ Parent ]

yeah thanks for (2.00 / 1)

the Obama obituary.

You guys pronounced him dead so many time, its getting funny.


-- be excellent to each other
by kindthoughts on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 02:25:14 PM EST
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Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (2.00 / 5)

Fanfic on MyDD? I don't get this, unless it's really subtle satire.

Do you know how repugnant it is to insinuate that you're the only "real" Democrats, and that everyone else supporting Obama is either a fake, latte-sipping rich guy, or a black person obviously supporting a fellow black.

I've seen this constantly here, along with dire predictions of Obama's doom--doom!!--because of Wright (actually, it's more rooting for doom than predicting it). The media's already moved past it. Isn't it possible that it's just not that big a deal?

I honestly don't even understand a lot of people here anymore.


by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 12:44:29 PM EST

Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (2.00 / 1)

Wright may be "no big deal" in the Dem Primary - but most people assume Obama is hoping to be a nominee in the General where it WILL be a big deal.
As well as Michelle Obama's "anti-America" comments.

Hillary/Obama08
by annefrank on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 01:24:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (2.00 / 1)

it will be a big deal for mainstream American.  especially after they watch a tape of 9/11 in youtube again, and realized that Wright made his anti-American comment just 5 days after 9/11.


by JoeySky18 on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 01:44:22 PM EST
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thanks for fearmongering. (2.00 / 1)


-- be excellent to each other
by kindthoughts on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 02:23:35 PM EST
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Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (2.00 / 2)

You need to read the Chicago Tribune, annefrank.  Then you'll realize that they've given him a pass on this.  There is no there there.  

It's like Whitewater.  There was nothing there, and there is nothing there with Rezko.  

And Wright's comments are not Obama's.  Nice of you fan the flames for the GOP, tho.  I look forward to reading your mea culpa the day after we get Obama elected President.  

I fully expect you to apologize for your divisive comments.  But I'm not holding my breath.  


GeauxBama!
by DailyKingFish on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 02:21:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: The Rise and Fall of Barack Obama (none / 0)

Fan the flames for the GOP??
Obama has done that - not me.

But it is amusing today reading Obama followers fusing Wright with Jesus.
Holy Moly!


Hillary/Obama08
by annefrank on Sun Mar 16, 2008 at 07:16:19 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Great job (