Who cares?

I care also.

He already answered it. He said he was not there! If is also wrong to believe that there was only one Christmas service in Trinity. So what exactly is your point again?

Actually the picture of the family you put up has just melted away any prospect of critical language.

A really beautiful family.

By the way I am getting tired of this story , I think baring any other revelation , its time to move on.

yep surely he went to church on xmas day.

Was he present during this Christmas Day sermon?

Did he speak with his minister and spiritual advisor before the sermon was delivered on Christmas Day?

Was he aware of the content of Wright's sermon? And if so, when was he alerted to the inappropriate content of Wright's sermon: Christmas Day, the day following Christmas Day, the week following Christmas Day?

Or were Barack, Michelle, Malia and Sasha standing and not "sitting" in the pews of TUCC when Wright uttered controversial comments critical of Clinton on Christmas Day?

and Bill???????????

Obama needs to apologize, and his pastor need to apologize for what his 20 year associate and person intimately involved in his campaign said about them personally on Christmas day.

'd be more inclined to accept his explanations if he'd been forthcoming earlier, if he weren't claiming he didn't know, and if he hadn't been using every possible opportunity (damn few there have been) to claim Hillary's been behind remarks that attribute his negatives to his race. She would gain nothing by that and there is no reason to think she's got a race issue, clearly that's belongs more to his supporters than to hers. But she does point out differences in qualifications and experience, and in the depth and detail of their plans, and between her Iraq exit plan and his, her universal health care plan and his, issue things. He's disingenuous in suggesting these issue based differences she campaigns on are really meant to 'smear' him, she'd be running on her own positives and her own plans and her own professional and experienced advisors, on her own record, whomever she were running against. obama is running on his so-called superior judgement and I think he's used poor judgement in acting like the victim of racism.

to see this sort of thing directed towards Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton to just .... Stop.

I guess I am glad that a lot of this kind nonsense is coming out before the GE about both of them, because the righties and rove will be relentless. When looking back at this period in time later in the year (no matter who our nominee is), we will all see how minor it is compared to what rove and crew WILL do!

Anyone who would blame Hillary Clinton for this mess with Obama and Wright is a fool. You should be glad it is coming out now and not later. If Obama is the nominee, the righties would have used this and more! They still will use this crap and Obama will need to find a way to blunt it or kill it.

My thoughts...

Progressive Blue

I find this video especially abhorrent. This is what this Reverend believes is appropriate to preach on Christmas Day? It is so far removed from anything I have ever been taught about Jesus that I can hardly believe that someone preaching this hatred would be considered by anyone to be a Christian.

Oh, yeah.
This is a Christmas Sermon?

Using the Baby Jesus' birthday for a race baiting stump speech?

So, you're saying that the pastor gave a tirade about Obama and Clinton, and you're saying that the candidate himself was in the room at the time, and no one noticed? The camera didn't so much as glance at, acknowledge, or hint at the candidate who was under discussion?

As conspiracy theories go, this is pretty far-fetched.

If my understanding of the statements made on this issue is correct, Obama has said that he first learned the statements of Wright that have caused the whole issue in early 2007. At that point he began to disassociate himself with Wright. He did not entirely disassociate himself, because Wright is, by many, many accounts a very good spiritual leader and does an enormous amount of good in the Chicago community. There is no need, then or now, to throw Wright under the bus.

As a speaker on social matters, Wright has some strange views and a very inflammatory way of expressing himself. That's not all that unusual in black social gospel churches. As a speaker on spiritual matters Wright has done a lot of good for many, many people.

So yes, I expect Obama knew about Wright's controversial statements in 2007, and if so that would be no lie or deception, since he's said that he found out about them many months before. His statements about when he found out fit together very nicely with the media coverage of when Wright said what.

I'm not sure why anyone keeps trotting out the straw men about baptisms and marriage ceremonies. Wright is very well spoken on matters of spirituality and traditional religious topics. I expect he was a perfectly fine religious leader at those events.

Wright ties himself into these knots when he's speaking on social and political matters. Baptisms and weddings are pretty unlikely to be those occasions, and indeed according to the evidence so where the vast majority of speeches. It's taken something like 9/11 or Katrina to work him up into making the statements that have caused this whole issue.

I know Clinton supporters really, really want this to be Obama's "Monkey Business". I'm sorry, it's not going to happen. We already have polling data showing that this isn't doing much damage to Obama, and this story is old enough to have filtered well into the popular consciousness. Yes, he's lost the rabid right-wing all-Democrats-hate-America vote solidly after this. Did you think he had it before?

In exchange he's probably picked up a bunch of votes from confused low-information Independents whose reason for opposing him was the persistent belief that "he's a Muslim". Hard for anyone to believe that, now.

The difference between this and the 527's swiftboating Kerry is the difference between Obama and Kerry. Kerry believed that a nonsense story was best ignored, or responded to lightly, and allowed to discredit itself. Obama believes in a firm, immediate response. He's denounced Wright's charges in no uncertain terms.

If this and the idiocy with Rezko is the best you think the Republican 527's are going to be able to do, Obama can feel confident in placing orders for White House drapes. Compared to the mountain of things we know the 527s will be able to trot out about Clinton, this is hopelessly miniscule.

what's really sad on this site is how BADLY the hillary people want to destroy Obama.... almost as if he were a republican.

A year or so ago, I would bet most people on this site loved Obama....now look at all of you, so eager to find something....anything to destroy his candidacy

That is how utterly ridiculous this primary season has gotten.

I'm not saying Obama is perfect...but look at how hillary has to win - either by the superdelegates handing it to her or by tearing Obama apart....and you all are ok with that... I never thought I'd see the day

Last night during his show "Geraldo At Large" on Fox, Geraldo confirmed that Obama was in Chicago for Christmas, but was told (not sure who confirmed) that Obama did not attend the Christmas service. Also, the day that Rev. Wright made his anti-American sermon post 9/11, Geraldo confirmed that Obama was in route to a campaign stop. With that said, I still don't give Obama a pass on a 20 year association with a race-baiting, anti-American "preacher". Obama knew what was going on in his church. I don't buy it.

He "distanced" himself from Wright in the Spring of 2007.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/30/us/pol itics/30obama.html?_r=3&pagewanted=a ll&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&o ref=slogin

The fact that you didn't know about doesn't mean it didn't happen.

If Hillary Clinton attended for 20 years a church with a white supremacist minister and gave the church $20K, there is no explanation she could ever give that would satisfy the media or Obama's supporters.  This is a double standard.  Plain and simple.

He's not a poor black man, is he?  He has a good education, he's got a good family - beautiful children - and he's making some