Fox Attacks: Obama

Brave New Films has released their latest Fox Attacks video, this one going after Fox for advancing vile talking points about Barack Obama, which then get picked up by mainstream media sources and spread like a virus.

Sign the petition to demand that the media stop enabling Fox's anti-Obama smear campaign.

Update [2008-3-14 16:4:5 by Todd Beeton]:Look, people, I do agree that Barack Obama got a free ride in the media for a while and Hillary Clinton could do no right. We've seen a shift in that lately but honestly, it doesn't make holding the media accountable no matter whom it smears any less important. This is going to be crucial for all of us in November no matter who the nominee is, unless of course you plan to vote for John McCain if you don't get your way in the primary, in which case I'm really not sure what you're doing at a Democratic blog.



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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (2.00 / 4)

Fox's story about Jeremiah Wright is more than fair. This is the vetting the main stream media and people like you should have been doing.

I am glad this is coming out now rather than in October.

I don't want to lose another election to the Republicans by nominating an unvetted candidate with major problems in his background.


by BigB on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:26:29 PM EST

More than fair (none / 0)

It's more than balanced too!


I rock knobs
by Etchasketchist on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:31:05 PM EST
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Re: More than fair (none / 0)

I'll agree to boycott Fox if you agree boycott MSNBC for their blantantly sexist and biased coverage against Hillary Clinton.

http://noratings.blogspot.com/

I have to say, though, that this post make me laugh. Most of the media have been shills for Obama and his vague message.


by JFK464 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:28:18 PM EST
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Compromise (none / 0)

I'll give you a Hannity & Colmes exception if you let me have a To Catch A Predator exception.


I rock knobs
by Etchasketchist on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:36:59 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (2.00 / 1)

Todd: you may have come to the wrong place with this request...sorry to say.


by JoeCoaster on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:35:58 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (2.00 / 1)

HE came to the wrong place? HE did? Really?


www.thingsyoungerthanmccain.com
by LandStander on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:03:13 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (2.00 / 1)

The comments speak for themselves. Yes HE did.


by JoeCoaster on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:26:27 PM EST
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MyDD (1.80 / 5)

Home of Fox News Fans since 2007.


I rock knobs
by Etchasketchist on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:07:02 PM EST
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Re: MyDD (none / 0)

Daily Kos, AmericaBlog, TPM, home of the sexist and smear machine MSNBC since whenever they began.


by anya109 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:52:31 PM EST
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Re: MyDD (none / 0)

Your list is getting kind of long...you know, at some point, saying I'm right but the rest of the world is wrong is silly.


by JoeCoaster on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 04:02:12 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (2.00 / 5)

Endorse the right wing smears against Obama and you give credibility to the smears from the same wingnuts against Clinton. Build up the right wing smear machine and you will get hoisted on your own petard. The stuff they are throwing at Obama is meak compared to the trash cans full of slime they will be pitching at Hillary if they think she has a chance.

Obama can agree with his pastor and members of his congregation that Jesus Christ is his Lord and savior and cooperate on the good community work and spreading of the gospel without agreeing with the political views of individual church members or his ex-pastor.

I am sure Obama is grateful to Minister Wright for bringing him to Jesus at the same time as he takes exception to his personal political views.

As far as Obama's church, the UCC is a mainstream Protestant church Obama's home church is it's largest congregation.

The current U.S. Congress includes 10 UCC members -- five Republicans and five Democrats.

Five U.S. Senators are UCC:  Daniel Akaka (D-Hawaii), Max Baucus (D-Mont.), Judd Gregg (R-N.H.), Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) and Obama.

Five House seats are occupied by UCC members: Thelma Drake (R-Va.), Mark Kirk (R-Ill.), Jim Ramstad (R-Minn.), Fred Upton (R-Mich.) and Lynn Woolsey (D-Calif.).

Other notable UCC members include New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine (D); former U.S. Sen. Jim Jeffords (I-Vt.); actress Lynn Redgrave; current U.S. Poet Laureate Donald Hall; Pulitzer-prize-winning newspaper columnists Connie Schultz (and wife of U.S. Sen. Sherrod Brown of Ohio) and Leonard Pitts Jr.; and Marilynne Robinson, the Pulitzer-prize-winning author of Gilead.

The Rev. Andrew Young former congressman, U.N. ambassador and Atlanta mayor is an ordained UCC minister, who began his Civil Rights activism working for the UCC.

The late Rev. William Sloane Coffin, the legendary social activist who became immortalized as the pastor in Gary Trudeau's Doonesbury comic strip, had ministerial standing in the UCC and served as pastor of the UCC's Riverside Church in New York.

You can add to that list Thomas Edison, Harriet Beecher Stowe, Walt Disney, Hubert Humphrey and 2 US Presidents.

I don't hear Liberal Catholic politicians being questioned on their commitment to a woman's right to choose, opposition to sexism and homophobia because of the comments and positions of some church clergy and church doctrine. I don't see Republicans being asked to answer for Falwells statements that 9/11 was God's punishment on America for homosexuality. They just say they don't agree with those positions and see the personal political views of church members as separate from the faith they share.


by hankg on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:52:16 PM EST
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there is a huge difference (none / 0)

one is a simple position on abortion, and the other is saying 3000 people deserved to die because of mistreatment of black people, who called Jesus a black man, whose church says that an anti-semite like Farrakhan epitomizes greatness, whose words, if swtiched black and white would sound like the KKK.


"there is nothing wrong with America that cannot be cured by what is right in America"-William Jefferson Clinton, forty-second President of the United States
by DiamondJay on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:57:06 PM EST
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Re: there is a huge difference (none / 0)

you really can't just switch black with white can you. unless you want to switch it starting 300 years ago...do you?


by JoeCoaster on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:09:26 PM EST
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Re: there is a huge difference (2.00 / 0)

His church does not say that. Don't confuse the remarks of one man with the position and doctrine of the church.

Here is a white minister who attends Obama's home church speaking about it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioaChVw_p Uw

Here is the church's response to the smears against it's largest congregation:
http://www.ucc.org/news/thomas-denounces -smear-1.html


by hankg on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:18:33 PM EST
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Re: there is a huge difference (2.00 / 2)

Olbermann compared Hillary to David Duke....**crickets* from the 'liberal' Obama blogs

http://noratings.blogspot.com/


by JFK464 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:29:32 PM EST
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So all UCC congregations preach Wright's vitriol? (none / 0)

This is about a POTUS candidate sitting in a congregation with his wife and family over a period of years soaking up Wright's "sermons."
UCC is admirably progressive, but I doubt many of it's ministers subscribe to Wright's theology.

I'm having a hard time imagining Daniel Akaka (D-Hawaii), Max Baucus (D-Mont.), Judd Gregg (R-N.H.), Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.), Thelma Drake (R-Va.), Mark Kirk (R-Ill.), Jim Ramstad (R-Minn.), Fred Upton (R-Mich.) and Lynn Woolsey (D-Calif.) staying 20 years in that particular congregation.


by sgary on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:16:31 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (none / 0)

Hankg, this is my favorite myDD SPAM of yours:

Pat Buchanan, Rush, O'Reilly and the WSJ editorial page are rushing to Ferraro's defense. No surprise it's fits right in with their narrative: All you latte sipping Volvo driving bleeding heart liberals kicked the more experienced white guys like Dodd and Biden to the curb so you could have two less experienced affirmative action candidates. Hillary is lucky she's a woman and slept with an ex-President and Obama is lucky he's a Black man with a funny name. If they where white men they would not be where they are. Yes poor old Dodd, Edwards and Biden didn't have a chance against candidates who could play the race and gender card and play on liberal guilt.

Sounds like you've already endorsed those "smears". Wow, not only did Hillary have a career of her own, she f_cked an ex-president too. Cool.


by grlpatriot on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:45:36 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (2.00 / 1)

I guess you are to dense to see that I was making a point about Ferraro's remarks. If you buy into the Republican narrative about Blacks and Obama you better be prepared to accept their smears against woman and Hillary as well.


by hankg on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 04:15:44 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (none / 0)

Let me add to that so it is perfectly clear. If you endorse, spread and foster Republican narratives and talking points like the old Republican appeal to racial resentment "unqualified Black guys get breaks that hard working better qualified white guys don't get because the Liberals have given the country to the minorities" then you are giving credibility to the whole Republican narrative including all the sexist slime against woman.

You can't just endorse Bucahanan's, O'Reilly's and the WSJ editorial pages screeds against Obama and blacks without lending support to their woman hating agenda.

If you lie down with dogs you will wake up with fleas.


by hankg on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 04:29:06 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (none / 0)

That may be so BUT none of them are running for POTUS!


by shark on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:49:40 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (2.00 / 2)

I'd gladly sign a petition denouncing Obama and Obama supporters' LIES against Hillary.

And one more time - here's the facts about the 60 Minutes interview....

>>>>Less than one second. That's how long it took Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton to answer, "Of course not," to Steve Kroft's question on 60 Minutes about whether she thought Sen. Barack Obama was a Muslim. You can time it yourself by watching the clip at YouTube.

Still, that didn't stop MSNBC's Chris Matthews from complaining on-air last week that it took Clinton "the longest time" to answer Kroft's question.
http://mediamatters.org/columns/20080311 0002


Hillary/Obama08
by annefrank on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:14:44 PM EST
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I'll co-sign! n/t (none / 0)


Grumpy, reluctant, sore-losing, unhappy, irritable Hillary supporter for Barack Obama 2008
by DemAC on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:20:57 PM EST
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Re: I'll co-sign! n/t (2.00 / 1)

Now, thats something I'll sign. The hypocrisy is sickening.


by grlpatriot on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:33:31 PM EST
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Sickening indeed (none / 0)

and really really pathetic to behold.


Grumpy, reluctant, sore-losing, unhappy, irritable Hillary supporter for Barack Obama 2008
by DemAC on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:40:34 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (none / 0)

And the vetting appears to be working.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0 308/Obama_pained_and_angered_by_Wrights_ inflammatory_and_appalling_remarks.html
No matter which candidate is selected, the Democratic party will survive.

by Tilde on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 05:03:07 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (none / 0)

There's no way I am signing this.


by susanhu on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 05:14:35 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (none / 0)

I suppose the next petition will be to put a stop to Sean Wilentz's articles for The New Republic.


by susanhu on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 05:15:29 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (none / 0)

Fox's story about Jeremiah Wright is more than fair.

Fox is more than fair. Guilt by association is something the main stream media should be doing.

I won't bother to list, again, the potential for blowback here.


by BlueinColorado on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:30:05 PM EST

Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (2.00 / 4)

Is there a petition calling for MSNBC to stop attacking Hillary?  just curious...


by Andiclimber on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:32:08 PM EST

Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (2.00 / 1)

Don't you get that the fight is against Republicans and that this infight you are so happily celebrating is simply a distraction?


by marcotom on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:35:47 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (2.00 / 3)

Yes, when the attacks are against Hillary, it's all good fun and they show how awful a candidate she is. But when they're against Obama, can't we all just get along?
by ColoradoGuy on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:51:50 PM EST
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So you support Fox News? (1.00 / 1)


by Erik on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:55:52 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (2.00 / 0)

Did I say that or do you mistake me with that straw man you just created?

To ashamed to see supporters of your own candidate engage in this?


by marcotom on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:56:24 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (none / 0)

http://noratings.blogspot.com/

Right, here


by JFK464 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:30:13 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (2.00 / 2)

And, unfortunately, there's even more that the MSM has not YET touched, about Obama. I think it's gonna get worse. When Democrats learn that the MSM is not their friends, no matter who they support for the Democratic nomination, maybe they can win a GE election.


by Actright on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:34:03 PM EST

Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (none / 0)

such as?


by BlueinColorado on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:35:09 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (none / 0)

We've only been attacking the MSM for years. Hell, blogs basically gained prominence because the media so utterly failed us in the run-up to the Iraq war (and before that, during the 2000 "with whom I'd rather drink a beer" election).

Perhaps I'm a little overly sensitive these days, but it seems that your comment is implying that Obama supporters trust Fox and other MSM outlets. I sincerely hope you don't consider your fellow left-blog members to be that incredibly naive. (If I've misunderstood the comment, then my apologies.)


by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:47:54 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (none / 0)

You misunderstood my comments. What I have been yearning for is a Left Wing TV equivalent of Fox. We don't have one. I applaud the blogs and all, but my neighbors tune in to Fox or purchase the tabloids. That's where they get their news, believe it or not.
Once we have a nominee, these outlets will define him or her, as they did Gore, et al.
by Actright on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:01:05 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (2.00 / 4)

Todd, how about cleaning up on your own blog?

If I look at the recommended diaries on MyDD, FOX actually looks like a unbiased news channel indeed.


by marcotom on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:34:35 PM EST

Ain't that the truth (2.00 / 1)

It's like reading freerepublic.


by Erik on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:57:43 PM EST
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Re: Ain't that the truth (none / 0)

What about the anti-Hillary diaries that are posted here?  Are those.. what?  Legitimate?  


by JustJennifer on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:02:10 PM EST
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Re: Ain't that the truth (2.00 / 2)

I think they are a hopeless response to the brutal and mean-spirited a anti-Obama diaries that are eating this blog alive.


www.thingsyoungerthanmccain.com
by LandStander on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:05:04 PM EST
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Re: Ain't that the truth (none / 0)

What about the anti-Obama diaries on Daily Kos, both of them are in the minority on their particular sites.


by Socraticsilence on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:10:27 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (none / 0)

I think it's free speech.  They are also catering to their general audience, which they have a right to.  


This administration is not sinking. This administration is soaring! If anything, they are rearranging the deck chairs on the Hindenburg!
by venavena on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:35:46 PM EST

Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (2.00 / 2)

You are defending this?


by marcotom on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:36:09 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (2.00 / 1)

makes you wonder how often the proprietors read the threads, doesn't it?


by BlueinColorado on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:37:23 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (none / 0)

I'm sorry, I can't see the videos, but I've just been going on what I've actually seen on Fox.  I just assumed it was their use of the Wright video.  


This administration is not sinking. This administration is soaring! If anything, they are rearranging the deck chairs on the Hindenburg!
by venavena on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:47:35 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (none / 0)

Just blindly followed your hate, eh?


by BlueinColorado on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:48:55 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (none / 0)

What are you talking about?  What hate?  


This administration is not sinking. This administration is soaring! If anything, they are rearranging the deck chairs on the Hindenburg!
by venavena on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:57:09 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (none / 0)

You defended FoxNews because they were being criticized for criticizing Obama, without watching the video.

The enemy of your enemy is your friend?


by BlueinColorado on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:02:53 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (none / 0)

Obama is not my enemy, but I don't think he's above reproach.


This administration is not sinking. This administration is soaring! If anything, they are rearranging the deck chairs on the Hindenburg!
by venavena on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:29:39 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (2.00 / 2)

I agree - where is the petition to ask Olbermann to stop comparing HRC to David Duke?


by JustJennifer on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:36:52 PM EST

Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (2.00 / 1)

I agree.  


by truthteller2007 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:38:49 PM EST
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Maybe Clinton... (none / 0)

should stop portraying Obama as the "black candidate" so she can sure up the white vote. Maybe you are wrong and Olbermann is right. Did you ever think of that?


by Erik on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:00:46 PM EST
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Fox News=Mydd Rec List. (2.00 / 2)

This is really funny.


by CarolinaNumber23 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:37:10 PM EST

Re: Fox News=Mydd Rec List. (none / 0)

I have to agree with this.


d
by d on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:11:19 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (2.00 / 2)

When you're unvetted and inexperienced and have plenty to hide from the media, and still decides to run for President - this is what happens.

That Fox carries through with investigative reporting on Obama while the other networks don't say a lot more about the other networks than it says about Fox.

Let Obama walk in Hillary's shoes for a while. That will make him a better candidate in 2016 - when he hopefully is tested, vetted and ready to go.


Grumpy, reluctant, sore-losing, unhappy, irritable Hillary supporter for Barack Obama 2008
by DemAC on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:37:46 PM EST

Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (2.00 / 1)

FOX is NOT the media....that's the point!
FOX a right-wing propaganda outlet that is polluting our democracy. Getting in bed with them to defeat Obama is just dancing with the devil. You are going to get burned.
by JoeCoaster on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:41:33 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (2.00 / 1)

Obamabots here and elsewhere repeat misinformation Fox News generated about the Clintons.


by truthteller2007 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:43:08 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (none / 0)

So, that now gives you the right to do the same? That is possibly the most stupid thing I've ever heard.


by marcotom on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:45:29 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (2.00 / 1)

This is not misinformation.  No one doctored the Rev. Wright stuff to make him say stuff he didn't say.  He said it.  He stands by it.  If Obama does too that is his choice.


by JustJennifer on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:46:39 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (none / 0)

Did you watch the video?


by BlueinColorado on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:49:19 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (2.00 / 2)

Yes I have seen all of the videos.  Yes they are just tidbits of information out of 40 years of preaching.  Doesn't matter.. the whole Bill Clinton ridin dirty thing was pretty gross.  The 9/11 thing 5 days after when there were still bodies in the rubble made me sick.  What is your question?


by JustJennifer on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:52:44 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (2.00 / 1)

Have you seen the video posted here?

The subject of the thread.

Wright is a very small part of it.

If you would read the post, and then the thread, maybe you wouldn't have to ask rather obvious questions.


by BlueinColorado on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:56:07 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (2.00 / 1)

Watch the FOX Attacks video...I don't think you have a clue what FOX is.


by JoeCoaster on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:57:30 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (2.00 / 1)

So you obviously haven't watched this video.  


Tony Romo for Secretary of Awesome
by kasjogren on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:58:33 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (none / 0)

I just watched the video.  Again, their target audience is who???  


by JustJennifer on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:02:48 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (none / 0)

Tim Russert.


by BlueinColorado on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:04:50 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (none / 0)

Tim Russert?  NBC/MSNBC you mean?  They will never repeat the stuff off of Fox News.  Yes I know the Tim Russert question in the debate about Rev. Wright..but generally speaking they are not going to join the Fox News campaign.  This is a non issue.


by JustJennifer on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:06:14 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (none / 0)

Actually, it was the Farrakhan thing that Russert (and Hillary Clinton) seized on in the last debate.

But Russert has been taking his talking points from FoxNews at least since the Swift Boaters (no one needed to help him smear Al Gore).


by BlueinColorado on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:09:19 PM EST
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You must excuse them (none / 0)

They are Obama supporters and they don't know what it means to have the media investigating their candidate. It's not their fault - they just haven't experienced it. The sad part is that this leads to the flawed idea that this absence of media vetting will continue infinitely and everything will be just dandy as it is. If Obama is nominated they will have a rude awakening come the fall.


Grumpy, reluctant, sore-losing, unhappy, irritable Hillary supporter for Barack Obama 2008
by DemAC on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:08:59 PM EST
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Re: You must excuse them (2.00 / 1)

Again...saying FOX is part of the media shows either a lack of understanding or an embrace of their agenda. Have you watched the video? Obama=Hitler is not vetting in my book.


by JoeCoaster on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:17:07 PM EST
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Re: You must excuse them (none / 0)

Obama can't even handle Fox, and you think he can be POTUS?

Pffft.


Grumpy, reluctant, sore-losing, unhappy, irritable Hillary supporter for Barack Obama 2008
by DemAC on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:19:00 PM EST
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Re: You must excuse them (none / 0)

Obama can handle it fine don't worry...thats not the point (if you care)....The Petition

Fox is a Republican mouthpiece, not a legitimate news organization. Real news organizations must reject Fox's smears of Barack Obama, not parrot them.

FOX must be branded as propagandist so they cannot weld the power to destroy Democrats at will.  


by JoeCoaster on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 04:18:35 PM EST
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Re: You must excuse them (none / 0)

If they destroy him it's because he's got plenty that will let them destroy him.

And where were you and your sudden sense of party and righteousness when Hillary was accused of racism on Fox?

Now, go sign your little petition and good luck.


Grumpy, reluctant, sore-losing, unhappy, irritable Hillary supporter for Barack Obama 2008
by DemAC on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 04:22:06 PM EST
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Re: You must excuse them (none / 0)

Way to look at the big picture...I will sign it thank you. When the "FOX Attacks Hillary" petition is started I will sign that too.


by JoeCoaster on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 04:33:17 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (1.00 / 1)

6 year old children like Taylor Marsh come up with names like "Obamabots" and use them...


by Sinbad Sinbad on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:46:26 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (none / 0)

So, where did Hilbots, Hitlarites, etc. come from?  Obama adults?  LOL.


by anya109 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:49:07 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (none / 0)

Maybe she should try to stop organizing debates on Fox News.


It profits a PUMA nothing to give their soul for the whole world... but for McCain? --Sir Thomas More (if he were here now)
by LordMike on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:49:37 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (none / 0)

To be fair, maybe if Obama went on Fox'n'Friends and giggled and flirted with Karl Rove, they'd be nicer to him.


by BlueinColorado on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:50:57 PM EST
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Nanny nanny poo poo (none / 0)

"They did it first!"

Grow up.


I rock knobs
by Etchasketchist on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:09:49 PM EST
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Re: Nanny nanny poo poo (none / 0)

Go play with your etcha sketch.


by truthteller2007 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:11:28 PM EST
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Ooh, good one (none / 0)

go tell some truth to last year. Snap!


I rock knobs
by Etchasketchist on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:16:57 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (none / 0)

MSNBC is NOT the media....that's the point!
FOX a left-wing propaganda outlet that is polluting our democracy. Getting in bed with them to defeat Clinton is just dancing with the devil. You are going to get burned.

by JustJennifer on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:45:12 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (2.00 / 2)

Damnit!  

MSNBC is NOT the media....that's the point!
MSNBC is a left-wing propaganda outlet that is polluting our democracy. Getting in bed with them to defeat Clinton is just dancing with the devil. You are going to get burned.


by JustJennifer on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:45:53 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (none / 0)

But Obamabots adore Keith Olbermann, for Keith writes diaries at Daily Kos.  Besides, sexist male bloggers require a media outlet to validate their warped beliefs.


by truthteller2007 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:48:15 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (none / 0)

That is besides the point of this diary.


by marcotom on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:48:47 PM EST
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Re: Fox Attacks: Obama (none / 0)

Yes, sexism is always irrelevant to its practitioners.


by truthteller2007 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:54:44 PM EST
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How is this diary about sexism or how is the video about this?  You Clinton peeps keep saying that Obama is injecting race into the contest when ferrero spouts off something stupid and now you are injecting sexism into this and getting defensive when you are asked about it?


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by kasjogren on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:01:39 PM EST
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Why not discuss the media's patent sexism?  Why are online advocates only concerned with Barack Obama?  Or is everything now shaped and determined by advertising revenue?


by truthteller2007 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:03:48 PM EST
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Who's stopping you? The diaries are an open forum.


by BlueinColorado on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:05:55 PM EST
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Then make a post about sexism.  Make a video mash-up showing examples of blatant sexism, post it up and get a petition going.  

Look, I am not saying that sexism isn't a problem or that tweety hasn't been a world class tool this election but when you do this it only leads to people saying "huh" and ignoring you.  It would be like going to a forum on child obesity, getting to the mic and going on a rant against the WTO.

If you want to get a message across there are better, more effective, and smarter ways of doing it.


Tony Romo for Secretary of Awesome
by kasjogren on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:12:08 PM EST
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No, it really is the point. You are so confused by your love for Obama you can't even tell how twisted into a pretzel you are.
by ColoradoGuy on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:55:10 PM EST
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Works both ways.  Do Obama supporters now agree to address only the issues in diaries, or only the ones that they agree with (I know, I ended my sentence with a preposition)?


by anya109 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 04:04:08 PM EST
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Can someone please tell me why its cool for people like this to use the term "Obamabot" but people like me get a waringin for terms like "Hilhadis"?


by Socraticsilence on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:04:53 PM EST
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very creative. So you prefer Fox News to MSNBC?


by marcotom on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:48:17 PM EST
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I don't like any of them.  I watch CNN.. sparingly.  


by JustJennifer on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:53:34 PM EST
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Honestly, I had never watched a minute of Fox News before Super Tuesday 2, when, after hours of watching CNN mostly and MSNBC sparingly, I flipped over to see what the wingnuts were saying.  Granted this was the after midnight crew, but I found their commentary to be less blowhard than MSNBC, and I considered that fact to be pretty damn sad.

I haven't watched MSNBC or Fox since...


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by FitnessNerd on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 04:27:25 PM EST
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Right, because MSNBC was sooo helpful in the 2000 election. FOX is out to destroy the Democratic party . Don't mess around with them unless that is not important to you...is it?


by JoeCoaster on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:55:44 PM EST
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I have very vivid memories of 2000 and 2004, thank you very much.  Like I said.. I don't watch Fox News (except for a few seconds when I may be flipping through, and then I laugh and change the channel)  The only people I know who are religious Fox News fans are not going to vote for a Democrat anyway.  Their audience isn't Democrats.  


by JustJennifer on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:59:36 PM EST
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Destroying the Democrat party (none / 0)

I think the leftwing nuts are doing a fine job of it themselves.


by grlpatriot on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:03:01 PM EST
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One would have thought that after what the MSM did to Mondale, Dukakis, Gore, Kerry and of course, Bill, the Left Wing would have bought and installed its own TV propaganda machine to fight back.


by Actright on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:47:40 PM EST
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And MSNBC is propaganda, too!  Worse than FOX!! and without the ratings,!!!


by tiffany on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 05:26:44 PM EST
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So..anyone asks a question about Wright and it's a smear?

Please, this will be the biggest swiftboat attempt in the GE and you just want to pretend it's a non-issue and paint Obama the victim.

I'll wait for the MSNBC petition...


by Andiclimber on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:38:31 PM EST

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Another person who obviously had their response ready without actually watching the video.


Tony Romo for Secretary of Awesome
by kasjogren on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:02:58 PM EST
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Obama should get ahead of this story about his former pastor.

This just reminds of how Kerry got swiftboated , this story is getting out of hand and his campaign is sitting back hoping it would go away .

It is going to be on the sunday shows.

There is trouble brewing in the horizon over this story among ordinary americans.

This is the beginning of his swiftboating and he is not handling it well.


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by lori on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:40:23 PM EST

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Please get a coffee, tee, or whatever you like and relax.

The MyDD Obama-hate echo chamber is not in any way representative of the USA. If it was, I would feel very sorry for this country.


by marcotom on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:47:19 PM EST
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Although we're both for Obama, let's be honest and acknowledge that a lot of diaries on dKos are as anti-Hillary as those here are anti-Obama. To quote one of my favorite shows, "That's how the game is played."

And, um, so what if that show is Discovery Kids' Endurance? It's a darn fine show! Why are you looking at me like that?


by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:54:37 PM EST
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They are anti-Hillary indeed and I don't agree with a lot of them, but they are different. They ask Hillary to drop out, reject her campaign tactics, explain their general dislike for her or her policies and whatever.

I haven't seen any recommended diary on DK that presents the latest "facts" of how exactly Clinton murdered Foster and other stuff that could have been said word-by-word by a right-wing nut job. MyDD has gone a few levels deeper in how they portray their Obama hatred. Also, on MyDD Obama-hate domintes Hillary-love, while it is mostly the other way around on DK.


by marcotom on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:20:01 PM EST
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Not so fast. Neither MyDD nor Kos is in anyway representative of the how the nation feels or what it knows. But you can be damn sure McCain will make everyone know by the time November rolls around. Obama is trying, as you are, to stick his head in the sand and hope it goes away. McCain won't let it. You can call that irresponsible, but that and a buck won't even by you a latte anymore.
by ColoradoGuy on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:58:04 PM EST
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As a matter of fact, he does not push the story and said so publicly. That does not mean that some right-wing nut jobs won't do it. But then, some Clinton nut jobs are doing the same, there is not much difference.


by marcotom on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:02:32 PM EST
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McCain is way more respectable than the Clintons when it comes to "dirty politics".  That isn't to say that the RNC won't do it but the type of campaigning McCain will do and Clinton will do are vastly different.


Tony Romo for Secretary of Awesome
by kasjogren on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:04:42 PM EST
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Do I get an explanation on why this is troll-worthy?


by marcotom on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:00:42 PM EST
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How the hell does this deserve a troll rating?  I'm sure that Coral won't be a stand up person and explain it.  I wouldn't expect anything less from some of the regulars here.


by zep93 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:12:03 PM EST
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I wouldn't normally agree with you, but props for this comment. You are absolutely right on the money and it's only going to get worse without pushback from Obama.


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by pitahole on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:51:09 PM EST
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Yup. He needs to pull a Rove. Stop trying to hide him and speak directly to it. There's more than enough good deeds behind what this guy has done to demonstrate a good reason for Obama to support him despite his hardcore radical political views.

If he doesn't address this in a way that makes it clear what exactly he means by spiritual advisor, he's toasted.


If you're being chased by an angry bull and then you notice you're also being chased by a swarm of bees, it doesn't really change things. Just keep on running.
by vcalzone on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:58:19 PM EST
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Obama is yet to answer questions regarding Rezko.  And I hope he will address the relation between his earmarks for The University of Chicago and his wife's salary increase.  The media should also explore Obama's relationship to Alexi Giannoulias and organized crime in Chicago, Illinois.


by truthteller2007 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:42:10 PM EST

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Rezko is one I hope he keeps closed. Let them hammer away at that hard. There's not very much there, and it gives the moron wingnuts something to keep them busy, since they'll treat it just like Whitewater.

Meanwhile, McCain's lobbying ties are far more damning and easy to prove. That FCC crap alone is enough for Obama to nail him to the wall regarding ethics.


If you're being chased by an angry bull and then you notice you're also being chased by a swarm of bees, it doesn't really change things. Just keep on running.
by vcalzone on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:02:19 PM EST
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Obama can only ignore the Chicago press core for so long.


by truthteller2007 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:05:26 PM EST
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I went ahead and signed the petition b/c I can't stand the FOX smear machine and Obama deserves better. With that being said, how about a petition for MSNBC end it's 'bashing on Hillary" parade? I want fair coverage for both candidates.


by corunner26 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:43:39 PM EST

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Start one.


Tony Romo for Secretary of Awesome
by kasjogren on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:06:14 PM EST
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Would you sign that MSNBC petition?  And I would really like that Todd Beeton or some other front pager start one.


by anya109 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 04:08:08 PM EST
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I would in fact sign an anti tweety and a lot of other MSNBC guys, yes.  I don't think that Olbermann was out of line though cause if you listen he is saying exactly what I have been saying...GET RID OF MARK PENN AND YOUR OTHER IDIOT ADVISORS!

Brokaw and Keith are the only ones on MSNBC I can stand though and they have been pretty sexist for most of the campaign.


Tony Romo for Secretary of Awesome
by kasjogren on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 08:17:03 PM EST
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I also desire to know why Obama was appointed to a state Senate committee on Pensions and Investments at the very same time Levine and Rezko were lobbying Blagojevich and Illinois state legislators to block consolidation of Illinois state pensions.  Was Obama appointed to that position for a sole three months in order to ensure that consolidation would not interrupt the kickback scheme Levine and Rezko orchestrated?  Is this why Obama was the recipient of funds obtained through the kickback scheme?  Is this why Rezko helped Obama purchase the Kenwood mansion?  And why was Alexi Giannoulias, the Illinois state Treasurer Obama endorsed, Rezko's banker?  


by truthteller2007 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:45:33 PM EST

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http://www.gop.gov/web/guest/gopjobs


Tony Romo for Secretary of Awesome
by kasjogren on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 03:07:23 PM EST
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LOL! You've got to be kidding?

Obama is virtually a protected rare American species, a Democratic politician supported by nearly every MSM outlet including MSNBC, CNN, NYT, WAPO etc.

No thanks, I'll save my energy for someone who really needs the help. That person being Hillary Clinton.


by superetendar on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 02:45:38 PM EST

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Todd,

Thanks for posting the link to that petition.  By now you have probably read the comments in this thread left by Hillary supporters.

I have nothing to say-  they speak for themselves.


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