Hillary's Irish Legacy Cont'd.

The campaign just put together this wonderful video of Hillary talking about her experiences in Northern Ireland, and a bit of her recent visit with Northern Ireland's First Minister, Ian Paisley and Deputy Minister Martin McGuinness.  Given all of the BS out there by people claiming she didn't contribute anything to the process, I thought it was important to get this out there.  Take a look...

I know there's probably not much to add after Linfar's excellent diary last night, but I got a great email a few weeks ago from a woman who worked closely with Hillary during the time of the peace process in the mid-90's, and I thought this might be a good time to share it.

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Hillary's former Chief of Staff and now Chair of a non-profit group called Vital Voices, Melanne Verveer, sent me something she wrote up about Hillary's role in this peace process, as a part of the tribute being pulled together by Stella O'Leary.  Ms. Verveer worked with Hillary for 8 years and I doubt anyone has a deeper understanding of Hillary's role or her motivations for getting so involved in all this.  Nineteen ninety-five was a big year for Hillary, with trips to Beijing for the UN Women's Conference, and her first trip to Northern Ireland.  Take a look...

HILLARY AND THE VITAL VOICES OF NORTHERN IRELAND

Hillary accompanied President Clinton during his historic first trip to Northern Ireland in 1995. In preparing for the visit to Belfast, Hillary told me that she wanted to meet with some of Northern Ireland's remarkable women peacemakers. During her travels around the globe, Hillary always spent time with the women leaders who were changing their societies for the better. Now she would have to the opportunity to do so in Northern Ireland.

I don't think Hillary will ever forget her first visit to Northern Ireland, and neither will I. It was on that trip that Hillary went to a very simple restaurant called "Ye Olde Lamplighter" on Lower Ormeau Road. There she sat around some small tables that were pulled together and talked with Joyce McCarten and her working-class neighbors --- Protestant and Catholic alike. Many of the women had lost husbands, sons or brothers to senseless killings during the Troubles. But, over a cup of tea, they told the Fist Lady of the United States that while they attended different churches on Sunday, seven days a week they all prayed to the same God for the safe return of a child from school or a husband from an errand in town.

Their families struggled with the same deep-rooted causes of the violence - the burdens of poverty, the shackles of limited education, the despair of unemployment. And although the women held different views of the past events, they had learned that together they could make a difference for a better future. Joyce and her colleagues came together as women have always done: to speak out on behalf of the children.

Some called Joyce a "troublemaker," but she had a better name for herself, "family feminist." Her goal was simply to lift up the hopes and everyday lives of families like hers in Northern Ireland.

Hillary often talked about Joyce's powerful lessons and never more emotionally then when she returned to Belfast in 1997 to deliver a lecture in Joyce's memory at the University of Ulster. Hillary returned with the teapot Joyce had given her in 1995. Hillary held it on the lectern and talked with deep feeling about the important role that Joyce and so many others like her had played in transcending the conflict. In the audience were many women who were carrying on Joyce's legacy of peacemaking.

It was on this return visit to Belfast in 1996 that Hillary met Mo Mowlum, the British Secretary of State whom Tony Blair had sent to Belfast to negotiate with both sides to bring an end to the bloody conflict. Hillary and the indomitable Mo forged a bond through the ups and downs of the peace process and supported the efforts of the women in advancing the peace.

On St. Patrick's Day in 1998, the political leaders of Northern Ireland were invited to the White House. The peace negotiations that led to the Good Friday Accord were going on at the time and President Clinton was doing his best to encourage the leaders to continue their efforts. The only leaders who did not have a meeting in the Oval Office were the two representatives of the Northern Ireland Women's Coalition who were also elected to participate in the peace talks. Realizing their omission, an official on the National Security Council called me to see if it might be possible for the First Lady to meet briefly with the two Northern Irish women leaders, Monica McWilliams and Pearl Sager.

Hillary agreed and the meeting was anything but brief. Monica and Pearl told the First Lady how important it was for women in Northern Ireland to be able to participate fully in the social, economic and political life of their society, and they also told her how difficult it was, how the women were ridiculed, marginalized and even threatened. They pleaded for help in skills development, leadership training and employment opportunities. That was the birth of Vital Voices Northern Ireland. Minutes after the conclusion of the meeting, Hillary called me and said, "We really need to bring Vital Voices to Northern Ireland. Do you think we can organize a conference in six months that would help to build the confidence of the women, bring in experts and programs to develop their skills and provide new opportunities? We really need to help raise the voices of the women because they are critical to build a peaceful and prosperous Northern Ireland." Vital Voices became one of the US commitments to the peace process.

That night at the gala St Patrick's Day party in the East Room, Hillary introduced her husband and paid tribute to the women of Northern Ireland who are the unsung heroes. Her remarks were greeted with thunderous applause.

True to her word, Hillary was back in Belfast six months later to keynote the Vital Voices conference. Hundreds of women gathered at Waterfront Hall, as did First Minister of the Assembly David Trimble and the Deputy First Minister Seamus Mallon. Hillary also saluted her friend Mo who had done so much to make the conference possible, despite several roadblocks along the way. Hillary noted that it was "the smart thing for women to clear the path of reconciliation which brought us to this day. And it is the smart thing for women to play a central role in the reconstruction that will usher in a Northern Ireland that fulfills the promise of democracy, prosperity and peace for all its citizens....the Peace Agreement was the beginning, not the end." She asked, "How will each of us work to fulfill the promise of peace?" She added, "Let us pledge to each other that this is only the beginning and that, as the Peace Agreement is implemented, the voices that have been raised here will never fade away."

Hillary returned again to Northern Ireland the following year to hear about the progress of the Vital Voices initiative. One by one women told her how the initiative was opening new opportunities in the economy -- for partnerships in small business development and in creating cross border collaborations; how women were raising their voices in political system once reserved only for men and developing new strategies to sustain community- based women's groups.

In 2000, on her last visit as First Lady and her first as Senator-elect, Hillary hailed the women of Northern Ireland who were "setting an example of how women can foster peace and prosperity in this new century," and she proudly told the audience that everywhere she went around the world, she talked about the daily acts of courage taken through the years by the women of Northern Ireland -"whose whispers of `enough' became a torrent of voices that brought us to this day."

As Senator, Hillary made few trips overseas, but she did travel to Northern Ireland and made a point of visiting with the women leaders who had been such an inspiration to her and the world - women like: Inez McCormack, Avila Kilmurray, Mary Breslin, Monica McWilliams and so many others. She continues to hear about the strides that are being made politically, socially and economically in Northern Ireland.. Today through the Vital Voices Global Partnership, the work that Hillary started continues. And the women of Northern Ireland are sharing experiences on peace building and community development with their sisters in the Middle East.

Hillary responded when the women of Northern Ireland sought her assistance. Time and again, she brought them encouragement and support. I know she will never forget them. I also know that they will always cherish her as their dear friend Hillary.

Melanne Verveer
Co-founder and Chairman of Vital Voices Global Partnership
Former Chief of Staff to First Lady Hillary Clinton.

Now I can't guarantee that all of the links still work, but if you want to read more about what went down regarding the actual peace talks and the referendum votes, you can check out an old website I built called IrishPeace.com for reading lists, who's who, history and info on the peace groups and political parties back then.



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She Gets It - She Really Gets It (2.00 / 8)

You want peace, you get women involved on the ground and provide all the support and encouragement you can, and they'll get it done.


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by alegre on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 12:09:16 AM EST

Re: She Gets It - She Really Gets It (1.00 / 2)

I've known plenty of women that wouldn't fit that categorization. That's the problem with basing vote on gender. Women are people too - I know, I'm one of  them.


by upstate girl on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 12:12:27 AM EST
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Care to Address the Topic of This Diary? (2.00 / 7)

You know... Northern Ireland?


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by alegre on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 12:28:56 AM EST
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Re: Care to Address the Topic of This Diary? (1.00 / 3)

I could ask the same of you as well. I was responding to your comment which originally took us off the topic of the diary.


by upstate girl on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 12:40:02 AM EST
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Re: Care to Address the Topic of This Diary? (2.00 / 4)

Actually - if you'd bothered to read the diary you'd know Hillary's work centered around bringing the women of Northern Ireland together to help futher the peace process.

But I have yet to see you mention the topic of this diary.


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by alegre on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 01:01:04 AM EST
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Re: Care to Address the Topic of This Diary? (none / 0)

I think the diary is great and I think Senator Clinton did a commendable thing. I still disagree with your first comment, which is what I responded to.

Please stop yelling at commentators to get back on topic when they're responding to your off-topic, original comment in the first place.


by upstate girl on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 01:04:13 AM EST
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Re: She Gets It - She Really Gets It (2.00 / 5)

Maybe not ALL women fit that categorization, but many women are mothers.  They know about bringing life into the world, and they might not be so quick to engage in battles to end it.  if that's essentialism, so be it.  Sometimes it DOES apply.  


by izarradar on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 12:34:11 AM EST
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Well if They'd Bothered to READ The Diary (2.00 / 6)

or even gotten to the second paragraph of Melanne's note they'd have known that.


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by alegre on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 12:36:55 AM EST
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Re: She Gets It - She Really Gets It (1.00 / 2)

I've known my share of women who are mothers. Giving birth to a child doesn't automatically make you a fit parent, nor does being a fit parent make you a good politician. These types of generalizations build on one assumption and lead to the next - its not a fair or realistic way of making a judgment about an individual's character or integrity.


by upstate girl on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 12:39:02 AM EST
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What Does This Have to Do With Northern Ireland? (2.00 / 3)

Seriously.


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by alegre on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 12:45:33 AM EST
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Re: What Does This Have to Do With Northern Irelan (1.00 / 2)

I'm not sure - why did your first comment go completely off the topic? That's what people are responding to.


by upstate girl on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 12:47:22 AM EST
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Re: What Does This Have to Do With Northern Irelan (2.00 / 3)

Alegre first comment was referring to the fact that Hillary encouraged the Irish women to get involve with the peace process.  And the coalition of women as mothers, wives, daughters from both side put pressure on the 2 sides to find a peaceful solution.
It was not off topic at all.  But it went into details of how Hillary got the women to weight their voice in the negotiation.
by JoeySky18 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 01:19:35 AM EST
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Re: What Does This Have to Do With Northern Irelan (1.00 / 2)

Here's your original comment:

>You want peace, you get women involved on the ground and provide all the support and encouragement you can, and they'll get it done.

I wouldn't have even looked twice if you had said "people" instead of "women". But you didn't - it was a specifically gender-based statement, and a broad generalization to make. And as a woman, I think its inaccurate and just as invalid as attributing negatives to all women just because of their gender.


by upstate girl on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 01:24:09 AM EST
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Geez, lady (2.00 / 3)

stay on topic.  We're not talking about women being fit parents.  If it's past your bedtime, we'll understand if you have to excuse yourself.


by izarradar on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 01:02:39 AM EST
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Re: She Gets It - She Really Gets It (2.00 / 2)

Read the diary please. Consider it as your guidance to write comments that are relevant to the topic being discussed by the diarist.


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by owl06 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 01:05:00 AM EST
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You Really Want to Honor Women Who Work For Peace (1.80 / 5)

Leave me the feck alone - stop spamming my diaries and go write one of your own for a change.

Or period. I've noticed you have yet to write one here - your only purpose is to disrupt and belittle what others write and post here.


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by alegre on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 12:44:53 AM EST
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Re: You Really Want to Honor Women Who Work For Pe (1.00 / 1)

Her comment was reasonable, not spam, and you can't pick and choose who responds to your diaries.  You need to develop a thicker skin.


by interestedbystander on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 06:19:01 AM EST
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Re: You Really Want to Honor Women Who Work For Pe (none / 0)

You troll rate this?  Pathetic


by interestedbystander on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 04:27:22 PM EST
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We really won't know (2.00 / 3)

if women are more peaceful than men until more women are in a position to decide for peace.  Right now the boys are still running the show.  Been like that for awhile now, so we have nothing to compare it to.  As a friend of mine likes to say:  A lot of isms have started wars, but Feminism isn't one of them.


by izarradar on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 01:01:26 AM EST
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Re: She Gets It - She Really Gets It (2.00 / 3)

Your comment proved your ignorance.  This was a big story in Europe.  And it has become part of a history.  Alegre wrote a nice summary of this piece of history here.  So study it before your participate in the discussion.  

If this discussion was conducted in an open classroom and you raised this question, you will look like an idiot in your class.


by JoeySky18 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 01:27:52 AM EST
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Go Write A Diary For Once (2.00 / 2)

.


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by alegre on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 12:46:16 AM EST
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Re: She Gets It - She Really Gets It (2.00 / 4)

you contribute...nothing.


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by owl06 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 12:58:45 AM EST
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WTF Is Your Problem? (2.00 / 5)

Dude - post your own diary.


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by alegre on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 12:23:10 AM EST

Re: gender traitors, unite! (2.00 / 4)

Excuse me, but you don't speak for this feminist.  The wonderful thing about feminism is that it can accomodate varying opinions.  Hillary's got my vote; you're free to go with Obama, if you want.  But save the lectures for Women's Studies.


by izarradar on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 12:28:26 AM EST

WTF Does This Have to Do w/ N. Ireland? (2.00 / 2)

*


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by alegre on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 12:48:48 AM EST
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Re: WTF Does This Have to Do w/ N. Ireland? (2.00 / 3)

It's just a troll; ignore it.


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by owl06 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 12:59:17 AM EST
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Oh Lady... (2.00 / 2)

You don't speak for me either!  Hillary is by far the better candidate left standing.  Yeah, post lectures elsewhere...


by The Smoldering Crone on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 01:37:36 AM EST
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go post your own diary (2.00 / 4)

Don't drop that shit in here.


by grlpatriot on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 12:36:47 AM EST

Re: Hillary's Irish Legacy Cont'd. (2.00 / 4)

Alegre, thanks for posting more info on Hillary and her work in Ireland.


by grlpatriot on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 12:42:31 AM EST

Re: Hillary's Irish Legacy Cont'd. (2.00 / 4)

My pleasure.

I can't believe people are dismissing the work Hillary's done on behalf of peace, and for women all around the world.  She's never gone around and boasted about it and now that she's mentioning it during her campaign people act like it never happened.

To dismiss her work is to dismiss what's important to over half the population of this planet in a lot of ways.  We may be privileged enough here in the States to not have to worry about bombs, famine or genocide, but billions the world over do and we should at least give a shit that someone's trying to help.


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by alegre on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 12:51:18 AM EST
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Re: Hillary's Irish Legacy Cont'd. (none / 0)

Alegre,

not everybody who disagrees with Senator Clinton's assessments/assertions of the role she played in the process is "dismissing" the work she's done towards peace. And also, it's a false comparison to say by dismissing Hillary's claims, one is also dismissing "what's important to over half the population . . ."

As a person who cares very deeply about peace and has worked for it and thought deeply over the years about different ways to achieve it, I recognize Clinton's commitment to the idea of peace (in some ways), although I do think she has a rather limited view about what peace is, philosophically speaking.

My problem with her N. Ireland claim is that most Americans are very unfamiliar with the situation and the process, and when she says something like "I helped bring peace to N.Ireland," which I believe is an overstatement, a lot of people take her at her word because the IDEA of peace in N. Ireland is so powerful. I just think it's disingenuous of her to frame it the way she has.

And YES, I read the diary. And NO, I don't take the personal reflections of a third party of visits and speeches to PROVE that she actually "helped bring peace." Being concerned about peace and helping bringing are not the same.

I posted this on the other diary, but nobody seems to have read it:

Anyway, you might want to have a look at this:
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-chec ker/2008/01/clinton_and_northern_ireland . html

Here are some relevant excerpts:

'I just spoke to Senator George Mitchell, the Clinton administration's leading Northern Ireland peace negotiator, who said that Hillary was "not involved directly" in the diplomatic negotiations that led to the landmark April 1998 Good Friday agreement on power-sharing. On the other hand, Mitchell credits Clinton with taking an intelligent interest in the issues and getting acquainted with many of the key players.'

and . . .

'Chris Thornton, a political reporter for the Belfast Telegraph, said that Hillary Clinton's visits to northern Ireland contributed to the "mood music" that made an eventual settlement possible, but were hardly key to reaching an agreement. "Would we have reached a settlement without that kind of stuff? Yes. Would we have got one without the intervention of Bill Clinton and George Mitchell? No."'

So, Clinton had a vested interest in the process. That is a good thing and she should be proud of it and I wouldn't criticize it. But she played no role in actually achieving the peace.


by vadasz on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 06:50:29 AM EST
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Re: Hillary's Irish Legacy Cont'd. (2.00 / 1)

I agree except that I would add that working on behalf of peace and for women is important (or should be) to the entire population of the world, not just the ~50.5% that are female, if I understood your argument correctly.


"We live entangled in webs of endless deceit, often self-deceit, but with a little honest effort, it is possible to extricate ourselves from them". -- NC
by Trond Jacobsen on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 08:49:59 AM EST
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Re: Hillary's Irish Legacy Cont'd. (2.00 / 3)

Thank you for writing this! It is great to hear about the difference Hillary made as first lady.


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by owl06 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 12:57:52 AM EST

I agree (2.00 / 2)

Some people overstay their welcome.

Another fine job, Alegre.


by izarradar on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 01:04:06 AM EST

Re: Hillary's Irish Legacy Cont'd. (1.50 / 4)

Thanks a million for the reminder TD - I usually ignore the @ssholes but it's been a long week and I'm tired.

Thank god(dess) tomorrow's Friday.

Crap - make that today.  It's 1 am here and I'm still up.

Again.


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by alegre on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 01:07:44 AM EST

Re: Hillary's Irish Legacy Cont'd. (2.00 / 2)

Great diary Alegre.  As always.


by JoeySky18 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 01:23:22 AM EST
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Re: Hillary's Irish Legacy Cont'd. (none / 0)

Please don't call people that disagree with you assholes


by interestedbystander on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 06:29:35 AM EST
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Re: Hillary's Irish Legacy Cont'd. (2.00 / 1)

Beautiful diary as always Alegre. It seems there is a concerted effort on the part of the Obama supporters to dispute anything you write here.

TexasDarlin is right. Don't let them get to you. That is why they are here, to disrupt and distort. The most vocal have only been here a few days. I assume they are paid to do what they are doing as that seems to be the MO of the Obama camp. And I am sure they are being paid well.


by Fleaflicker on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 09:39:33 AM EST


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