Louisiana Primaries Results Thread

Here are the results:

Obama: 86,283 votes (54 percent)
Clinton: 61,919 votes (38 percent)

49 percent of precincts reporting

Follow the numbers as they come in on this thread...

Update [2008-2-9 22:8:45 by Jerome Armstrong]: Exit polls by CNN: A HUGE skin-color split: Clinton winning 62-75 percent of the white vote, and Obama winning 74-86 percent of the black vote.

Update [2008-2-9 22:23:22 by Jerome Armstrong]:

I find the color divide pretty disturbing for both candidates:

                 Clinton       Obama

White Men        66            28 
White Women      73            24
Black Men        19            80
Black Women      16            84
One other polarizing split shows that 28% of Clinton supporters, and 24% of Obama supporters, will be satisfied only if their candidate is the nominee. That doesn't bode well for either candidate as the nominee wanting 100% support, especially if this isn't settled until just before Labor Day.



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Obama-geddon!


by animated on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:05:06 PM EST

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Wowzas.


What would LBJ do?
by Socks The Cat on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:06:24 PM EST

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Exit poll looks pretty good for Obama - winning men and women, winning blacks by a higher percentage than Clinton is winning whites, winning all age groups but the old...


by jlk7e on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:07:50 PM EST

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Obviously if you win men and women, you win. You have to watch those exit polls though -- they should Obama winning men and tying women in New Mexico, which would also mean an auto-win, but it turns out that it's a tie. If they're right in Louisiana, it's going to be 53-45, but I wouldn't count on that.


by Mullibok on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:11:08 PM EST
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Hmm, Repub exit polls show it neck and neck between Huck and McCain. That could be entertaining.


by Mullibok on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:12:22 PM EST
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Honestly, as a Hillary supporter, in a state like Louisiana, I'd be thrilled with a 53-45 win for Obama.

The two percentages only add up to 80. Who did everyone else vote for?


by OrangeFur on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:12:24 PM EST
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Edwards.

He is running strong in Louisiana, probably due to his focus on New Orleans/Katrina.


by diplomatic on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:14:25 PM EST
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I would guess Edwards got some scattered votes, he did start and end his campaign there. That missing percentage will evaporate once African American results start coming though.


by Mullibok on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:15:03 PM EST
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The GOP is missing a few percentage points, too, though not as many.  


by randym77 on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:17:13 PM EST
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Obama winning men and tying women in New Mexico, which would also mean an auto-win, but it turns out that it's a tie.

Darn smizmar vote!


Read Brian's Utah Weblog
by Brian Watkins on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:05:15 PM EST
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Wow it looks like Hillary will win now, very interesting.


What would LBJ do?
by Socks The Cat on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:16:19 PM EST

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How did you reach that conclusion?


by OrangeFur on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:17:08 PM EST
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he's getting your hopes high


"Apparently they have an 11-month calendar over there that's missing the month of February," Obama strategist David Axelrod
by Jr1886 on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:18:58 PM EST
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It's not working.


by OrangeFur on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:23:13 PM EST
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LOL, not quite.  Way too premature and New Orleans area hasn't come in yet.

This is a slam dunk for Obama.


by diplomatic on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:19:39 PM EST
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Holy crap - she is!!!

Could we really lose this one?

Will this be another New Hampshire?


by animated on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:21:32 PM EST
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Calm down.  The demographics of Louisiana are way different. Once Orleans parish comes in it's a blowout for Barack.

If you're a Hillary supporter there is nothing to see here... Obama swept tonight.


by diplomatic on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:24:20 PM EST
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That was intended ironically. I should have added some extra question marks and exclamation marks to make it more obvious:)


by animated on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:42:14 PM EST
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No. Remember Missouri? Clinton ahead by double digits in the early part of the night? Wait until at least 50% of the precincts report before thinking anything. Even then in MO, the results were far from complete.


by Mullibok on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:25:09 PM EST
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With 0% reporting?

FWIW, Obama's catching up. It's 41-40 now.


by randym77 on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:30:38 PM EST
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Obama is wiping the floor.Fired UP!!!!!!!!!!!!


"Apparently they have an 11-month calendar over there that's missing the month of February," Obama strategist David Axelrod
by Jr1886 on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:17:51 PM EST

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The exit polls have Obama winning among women more than among men.


by Progressive America on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:17:54 PM EST

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I see that the Obama campaign memo predicted a 10 pt win for him here, compared with 20 pt wins in Washington and Nebraska.

I confess to being a little surprised. Louisiana is a state with a very large African American population--does the difference between primary and caucus make that big of a difference?


by OrangeFur on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:18:27 PM EST

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Looking at Louisiana's Secretary of State site, most of the votes are from counties with 0 precincts reporting, so it's probably the absentee votes that are being counted and skewing the results. (~15% for Edwards)


by johnny longtorso on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:18:42 PM EST

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good point


by diplomatic on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:20:08 PM EST
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Maybe. The total I see has only 3,000 total votes, so it's hardly representative of anything.


by OrangeFur on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:21:47 PM EST
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Right, NOLA.com has the results here:  

http://elections.nola.com/dynamic/files/ elections/2008/by_state/LA_Page_0209_VD. html?SITE=NOLAELN&SECTION=POLITICS

15% of the early vote went to Edwards (2 precincts reporting)


by TheVirginiaDemocrat on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:23:36 PM EST
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Early votes show Romney doing better than Huckabee so far and McCain with a big lead.  That seems to indicate that it may be the suburbs and exurbs that are coming in right now, which might explain why Hillary is leading right now: more whites, especially educated, older women.


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by TheUnknown285 on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:18:58 PM EST

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Assuming the same places coming in for the Republicans are coming in for us, too.  I meant to add that.


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by TheUnknown285 on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:19:54 PM EST
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We're only talking about 3,000 votes so far. I don't think we can draw any conclusions yet.


by OrangeFur on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:22:27 PM EST
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The bar charts for the CNN exit polls are changing--the youth vote has gone from 8% to 10%, while the female/male split has gone from 57/43 to 60/40. I guess they're reweighting.

I'm just relieved they didn't call it for Obama as soon as the polls closed.


by OrangeFur on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:25:30 PM EST

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Here's a good website to keep track of the results coming in. Link
And just so people know, I live in Lafayette, LA.
by tlap08 on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:25:38 PM EST

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Thanks, yours is faster!


by JoeFelice on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:32:58 PM EST
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Obama has taken the lead.


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by TheUnknown285 on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:29:19 PM EST

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The headline at Drudgereport.com is not too pleasant for Hillary.


"Apparently they have an 11-month calendar over there that's missing the month of February," Obama strategist David Axelrod
by Jr1886 on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:36:01 PM EST

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What, is she dropping out again?  :-D


by randym77 on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:37:56 PM EST
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There's a first


by JoeFelice on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:54:22 PM EST
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The Democratic Party will cry Jan 20th 2009.

I, John McCain do solemly swear...


by rossinatl on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:39:57 PM EST

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Um... go away


Oh Mammy Dear, we're all mad over here livin' in America
by JDF on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:14:02 PM EST
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Why, you think Hillary's going to be the nominee? (none / 0)


by pg4obama on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 11:56:08 PM EST
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Why did all the Obama supporters come out suddenly to brag about his wins while throwing personal attacks at Hillary and her supporters?  We all knew he would win these states, it's no surprise to anybody.  The arrogance of Obama really does spread directly to his supporters, doesn't it?  Unbelievable.  You guys are worse than Repubs.


by musicpvm on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:43:19 PM EST

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you are sad


by poserM on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:55:38 PM EST
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Okay, you've made your point now, I think.


by OrangeFur on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:05:15 PM EST
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I'm an Obama supporter, but this is ludicrous. I may disagree with the Clinton supporters as to who is the best candidate, but I have no doubt they are good people and solid democrats.


by godemsin08 on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:05:38 PM EST
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Every time I see a post as nasty as this (Ugly Betty, aging baby boomers, sexually repressed women, and uber geeky guys) I wonder why I am a Democrat if this is where we are going.  If this was a GOP post you would have it nailed as agist, sexists, lots of unpleasant ists.  Why is it acceptable to say this if you are part of the party that is supposed to stand for placing a preimium on equality and human rights?

I'm not a Hillary supporter but jeez, that was uncalled for.

If you have a problem with a candidate you can deal with it, hopefully, without namecalling their constituency.

By the way, I was a strong Kerry supporter (a man with a highly progressive record) and I believe the grudging way Democrats came to support him if they did (he's so boorrrrrring) cost him as much as the Swift boat ads did.


by mady on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:07:19 PM EST
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Wow... how pleasant.

Yes SOME Obama supporters are arrogant and rude... just like SOME Hillary supporters are arrogant and rude. Lumping all of either candidates supporters together is not only rude, but it is stupid. Get a grip.


Oh Mammy Dear, we're all mad over here livin' in America
by JDF on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:15:01 PM EST
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Agree completely.


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by TheUnknown285 on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:16:51 PM EST
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"You honestly think the Ugly Betty, aging baby boomers, sexually repressed women, and uber geeky guys vote will put her over the top?"

Is this a progressive blog????

Please.  Clean up your act.


by wasabi on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 11:01:58 PM EST
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Huckabee has taken the lead on the Republican side.  St. McCain has a problem, maybe.

Another thing.  It's very early, but it looks like there are more Democratic votes so far that Republican votes.


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by TheUnknown285 on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:45:08 PM EST

Re: It's official: Obama is the 'caucus candidate' (none / 0)

Ma'caucus'? You do realize how easily that could come off as racist, right?


by Mullibok on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:45:42 PM EST

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So it looks like it will be 54 45 Obama.
But it also looks like the Huckster wins another.

by Judeling on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:48:55 PM EST

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Interesting, isn't it ... that Huckabee seems to win the same states as Obama.  (I wonder if there is the remotest possibility that such a state would vote Democratic?  Excuse the sarcasm, please.  But, consider.)


by christinep on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:03:35 PM EST
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We all knew hillary would win... (none / 0)

Not really. Jerome didn't
He predicted a clinton win in wa, on the front page.

The arrogance of obama spreads to his supporters? not really. obama is a humble guy

im arrogant, it has nothing to do with him


by dirtbag on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:50:39 PM EST

You are ... (none / 0)

both arrogant.


by bird52 on Sun Feb 10, 2008 at 01:16:36 AM EST
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Pretty substantial lead right now. I think the exit polls were right on this one. Let another 10% or so of the vote come in and I think we'll know for sure.


by Progressive America on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:51:03 PM EST

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Looks like McCain might lose. That would be a major media story, I hope Huckabee pulls it off.


by Progressive America on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:52:09 PM EST

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Maybe that's something we can all unite behind tonight.


by Mullibok on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:55:06 PM EST
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I personally think both are dangerous for us.

McCain for being viewed (incorrectly) as a maverick who stands up for what he thinks is right.

Huckabee for being somewhat of a conservative populist who criticizes outsourcing and who comes off us a devout Christian who isn't a raging bigot (a la Robertson, Dobson, Falwell).


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by TheUnknown285 on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:55:32 PM EST
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The opposing candidate is always dangerous, and there are always ways to lose. But we have the objective upper hand so far, which is a reason to smile.


by JoeFelice on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:01:34 PM EST
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this wasn't a win today

this was a spanking. call it arrogance or whatever... im just calling it like i see it

he more than doubled her vote in the west coast, midwest, and is expected to win in the south.

this is amazing.  he crushed her everywhere. all the dnc types are taking note

democrats DOUBLED the vote of rethugs in KANSAS! This is almost solely attributable to obama. he is clearly the stronger candidate, everywhere. he will obviously take states like ca, ny, nj (especially w/richardon on the ticket)


by dirtbag on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:54:27 PM EST

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Remember, please, that these states are not ones that the Democrats will probably take in November (Washington being an exception.)  While I can understand the exuberance of some, look at the BIG STATES of Texas, Ohio, and Pennsylvania.  The States that Huckabee wins are not likely to fit the demographic of a later Democratic general election win.  


by christinep on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:08:57 PM EST
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At the same time isn't it nice that we could nominate a candidate who might alter the metric even a little bit?


Oh Mammy Dear, we're all mad over here livin' in America
by JDF on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:17:15 PM EST
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How can Hillary supporters even FAKE ACT like she would win a general election. Without Blacks+Progressives+Independents in the swing states it's over. I bet she wouldn't get over 46% in a general. The only way she could win is if Ron Paul ran as a Independent.


by odogg on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 09:56:05 PM EST

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And how could Obama supporters ever think he could win without Latinos and strong turnout of white women and older voters? Let's not play that game.


by Mullibok on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:00:29 PM EST
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You're saying that white women will choose McCain over Obama? And your evidence is they chose Clinton over Obama? Hmm...


by JoeFelice on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:03:57 PM EST
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No, I am in fact an Obama supporter, but I think the original comment is silly.

"And your evidence is they chose Clinton over Obama?" That was my whole point. The original person assumes that blacks and others wouldn't go for Clinton, and he doesn't back that up anymore than I back my (not serious) statement up.

Also, I would be very very surprised if there weren't some women who were motivated to go out and vote with HRC as the nominee who would otherwise just stay home. I think both can win, they just won't have all the same supporters.


by Mullibok on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:07:34 PM EST
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Gotcha Mullibook. Maybe it's my own bias that interpreted the first comment as "Blacks will stay home" and the second as "White women will go McCain".


by JoeFelice on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:37:41 PM EST
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If you would vote for McCain you are not a democrat. End of discussion.

Go away.


Oh Mammy Dear, we're all mad over here livin' in America
by JDF on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:17:58 PM EST
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What, independents aren't allowed here?  


by randym77 on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:23:05 PM EST
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Sorry. It is usually safe to assume the people who are posting here are Democrats...

I won't go into my rant on independents because it is a personal opinion based in part on where I am from...


Oh Mammy Dear, we're all mad over here livin' in America
by JDF on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 11:03:02 PM EST
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I hope you like war (none / 0)


by pg4obama on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 11:57:52 PM EST
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Re: Louisiana Primaries Results Thread (1.00 / 1)

He could put Bill Richardson on the ticket. Latino vote taken care of. Next...


by odogg on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:04:48 PM EST
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Sorry.  That is the kind of smart... statement that helps parties lose elections.  Before commenting like that, think about the ramifications of what you just said about Latinos.


by christinep on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:12:18 PM EST
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dumb (none / 0)

Richardson wasn't even that popular with the Hispanic electorate.  A Pew Hispanic Center survey in December showed him getting less latino support than even Obama.

Hispanics are not monolithic and vote on regular issues like health care, jobs, education.  Not some blind sheep who just see a spanish surnamen and automatically vote for them.  Furthermore, immigration is not the #1 issue either like many ignorant people assume.

(Hipanic voters are U.S. citizens let's not forget)


by diplomatic on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:44:52 PM EST
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Re: dumb (none / 0)

Many Latinos that I know and work with have military backgrounds. That was their path into college and the middle class. They always talk about how joining up gave them the experience and needed to succeed in college. McCain will have a lot of appeal for these guys. It looks like Hillary can hold them but Obama can't.


by DaleA on Sun Feb 10, 2008 at 01:35:57 AM EST
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in the cnn exit poll, his margins among Independents and Liberals are smaller than the overall margin. Better check..


by eumc on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:01:00 PM EST
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ron paul (none / 0)

may actually get more votes than her in washington today

not really, but he is at 20% right now

at least he was against the war... not like hrc who was so strongly for it for 2 years after the war started, even when it was clear there was no wmd's or no link to al q...  

ugly, plain ugly. those poor iraqi's, still going through hell right now


by dirtbag on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:00:02 PM EST

Re: ron paul (none / 0)

C'mon with the testosterone remarks.  Those kinds of statements will hurt you and Barack in the long run.  He who laughs last....


by christinep on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:14:08 PM EST
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Re: ron paul (none / 0)

Try the Democratic Party, and should the DEMOCRATIC PARTY, decide through their votes that they want her as their candidate, then you deal with it.  Either you decide to vote for the party and not the candidate (which is what I will do if Obama is the nominee), sit it out like a sore loser, vote 3rd Party, or vote Repub.  You have many options available to you.


by Kingstongirl on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:37:15 PM EST
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Re: ron paul (none / 0)

He'll probably vote GOP.  He's not a Democrat.  A Democrat would not use that wingnut "Democrat party" phrasing.  


by randym77 on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:40:31 PM EST
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MSNBC calls it for Obama.


by Piuma on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:06:58 PM EST

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CNN also calls it for Obama.


by NvDem on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:12:57 PM EST
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Would everyone saying that they won't vote for Obama in the General Election because they wanted Clinton and everyone saying they won't vote for Clinton in the General Election because they wanted Obama please GET A FUCKING GRIP?

Realize this: a McCain presidency means unequivocally that the US will stay in Iraq.  It means that judges who are anti-choice, anti-environment, anti-labor, anti-gay, anti-privacy will be appointed at every level.  It means that we will have ANOTHER anti-labor, anti-choice, anti-environment, etc. administrator.

Remember what's important at the end.


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by TheUnknown285 on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:15:57 PM EST

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Holy cow the racial divide in LA is scary.  Let's all try to get along here,  okay?

Hillary would be a groovy president and President Obama would be awesome.  McCain would be the new Herbert Hoover.


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by Brian Watkins on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:45:57 PM EST
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Weren't these black-white divide indicators present throughout this season? Or, are they only becoming unavoidable in the Louisiana primary?  


by christinep on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 11:32:17 PM EST
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I think the divide is more pronounced in LA.  For whites especially.  Obama's been winning 80% of the black vote since SC, but he had been doing better among whites.  Well, he got only 24% of whites in SC, but that was with Edwards still in the race.

In California, whites split more or less evenly between Obama and Clinton.  Clinton led among whites by about 20 points in Georgia and Missouri.  She's leading by 40-60 points in LA.  

I agree with Jonathan.  It's disturbing.  


by randym77 on Sun Feb 10, 2008 at 12:10:28 AM EST
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I disagree vehemently! George W. Bush is already the new Herbert Hoover, which means that McCain is Alf Landon?  Wendell Wilkie?  

But otherwise a toast to either President Obama or Clinton.


by mgee on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 11:59:18 PM EST
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how will a ron paul comment hurt me in the long run? or barrack?

it is just for fun. anyone who changes their vote because of what some supporter of some candidate who that person has never met says on an internet website is a... lets just say, clueless


by dirtbag on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:18:32 PM EST

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Huckabee's leading in Washington, too.


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by TheUnknown285 on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:19:20 PM EST

Can someone explain (none / 0)

Who that other 9% to 10% are voting for in Louisiana? Is Edwards doing unusually well or something?


by Shawn on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:20:03 PM EST

Re: Can someone explain (none / 0)

Edwards has four percent.  Biden has two.  Richardson and Dodd each have one.  Kucinich is under one percent.


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by TheUnknown285 on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:22:33 PM EST
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Thanks (none / 0)


by Shawn on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:24:28 PM EST
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You're welcome.


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by TheUnknown285 on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:26:17 PM EST

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That was a reply to Shawn's post above.  I guess I hit the wrong reply button.


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by TheUnknown285 on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:28:48 PM EST
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You wanna know how bad it is for the Republicans?  Hillary Clinton, the second place finisher on the Democratic side, has about the same number of votes as the ENTIRE Republican field.


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by TheUnknown285 on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:36:09 PM EST

Re: Louisiana Primaries Results Thread (2.00 / 2)

Interesting that Obama supporters are more likely to vote for Hillary if she wins than Hillary supporters are to vote for Obama.  So much for the theory that Hillary supporters will vote for Obama but not vice-versa.

OTOH, that still means roughly 3/4 of the voters will be happy to vote for either Hillary or Obama.  And that matches the nationwide numbers.


by randym77 on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:36:39 PM EST

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I wouldn't quite say I would be happy to vote for either one.  I still have major qualms about both of them.  But I WILL vote for whichever wins.  Both are far better than Bush III: The Complete Destruction of America.


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by TheUnknown285 on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:39:55 PM EST
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Re: Louisiana Primaries Results Thread (none / 0)

It's kind of hard to figure out what they meant.  Phrasing is everything in a poll.  I gather they asked if they would be "satisfied" if the candidate they did not vote for won.

I would not be "satisfied."  I'd be disappointed.  I think Obama is a good campaigner, but I'm not sure he'd be a good president.  (I felt Kerry was the opposite: a lousy campaigner, but he'd have made an excellent president.)  

However, there is no way I would vote for Mr. "Looking for Alito clones."


by randym77 on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:47:04 PM EST
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on this point:
"One other polarizing split shows that 28% of Clinton supporters, and 24% of Obama supporters, will be satisfied only if their candidate is the nominee. That doesn't bode well for either candidate as the nominee wanting 100% support, especially if this isn't settled until just before Labor Day."

MSNBC just gave dramatically different numbers for this "satisfied/disatisfied" idea:

50% of Obama's supporters would be satisfied if Clinton won the nomination.

36% of Clinton's supporters would be satisfied of Obama won the nomination.


by along on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 11:25:34 PM EST
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Interesting.  

What's not different is that Clinton supporters are more "wedded" to her than Obama's are to him.  

Hmm.  If these polls are to be believed...Hillary can pull in Obama supporters, but Obama can't pull in Hillary supporters.  

And I actually saw earlier polls suggesting the same thing.  (Only it was "What chance is there that you will change your mind and support  the other candidate?")  Hillary voters were least likely to change their minds.


by randym77 on Sun Feb 10, 2008 at 12:16:54 AM EST
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well this was just from the LA exit poll. I had seen earlier national numbers (can't remember what polling firm) that put these percentages for both camps in the mid to high 60s.


by along on Sun Feb 10, 2008 at 01:15:41 AM EST
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Dammit.  McCain is cutting into Huckabee's lead.


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by TheUnknown285 on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 10:58:42 PM EST

Re: Louisiana Primaries Results Thread (none / 0)

has anyone else realized Democratic turnout, while low, was more than twice that of Republican turnout in Louisiana?


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by nrafter530 on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 11:08:07 PM EST

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I've noticed it.  In fact, the votes cast for the ENTIRE Republican field are just a few thousand more than those cast for the second place finisher on the Democratic side.


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by TheUnknown285 on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 11:10:04 PM EST
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I think McCain is going to win.  Most of the outstanding precincts are in counties that he is winning handily.  FUCK!


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by TheUnknown285 on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 11:36:43 PM EST

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Huckabee's lead just went back up.


by Shawn on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 11:44:42 PM EST
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Obama is obliterating Hillary (none / 0)

and the remaining parishes are his strongholds.


by pg4obama on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 11:59:48 PM EST

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CNN just projected a Huckabee win!  Unfortunately, if Kos is right, he won't get any delegates because you have to get at least 50%.


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by TheUnknown285 on Sun Feb 10, 2008 at 12:30:03 AM EST

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MSNBC and ABC have called it as well.  Fox isn't.


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by TheUnknown285 on Sun Feb 10, 2008 at 12:32:56 AM EST
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Re: It's official: Obama is the 'caucus candidate' (none / 0)

What makes you think Obama isn't divisive? Lots of gay people are really pissed off at him. Seems like he does not appeal to many Asians or Latinos either.


by DaleA on Sun Feb 10, 2008 at 01:27:56 AM EST

Pseudo-Obamacans (none / 0)

Sometimes I think there must an underground network of BHO supporters actually enlisted by the GOP to  piss off and alienate any  non-believers in the magic that is Obama.

Either that or BHO is the messenger himself and the party is OVER.


by bird52 on Sun Feb 10, 2008 at 01:36:49 AM EST


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