Been reading those Clinton press releases when you can't sleep?

correction, Obama has doubled that, as he is now over $6 million since Feb 5th.

Nice try and spin it as a win for Hillary though...

I'm determined to do everything I can to help Hillary.  And some of the nastier Obama fans can thanks themselves for that.  Some of the gleeful comments have been so over the top I've already donated 3 times in the last 24 hours, and I'll be going again in a few days when that refund check hits the account.

Go Hilary!

Obama has raised over $6 million in one day.

Hillary isn't keeping the pace. She's at half the pace, at best.

That's what happens when you've tapped out your non-grassroots, machine-driven campaign.

In the last 24 hour period, Clinton is keeping pace with Moveon & Obama combined.

Where is the evidence for that?

Well i just donated to Clinton...I think the main point was people are trying to say "she can't raise any more money" when clearly, she can.

It was a good take for Hillary. In a normal day, it would be top headlines. Unfortunately for her campaign, Obama just did even better. Now he'll be getting the top headlines tomorrow.

I thought cash was over-rated at the Presidential level?

Has anyone confirmed that was a Clinton email? Sorry but the fact it was started by Taylor Marsh, who even labeled it "unverified" and then was posted on a DailyKos blog just seems odd.

$2.9M of it was probably another loan from the Bill&Hill checking acct.

These kinds of posts really hurt HRC's campaign.  She can not - CAN NOT - get into a fund raising war with the Obama camp.  He has over 96% non-maxed, and he will just destroy her.  Posts like these fire up the troops, and that doesn't even take into account that the post is factually inaccurate, seeing that Obama has raised $6.38 million in the last 26 hours.  This stuff really hurts Hillary - factually wrong and red meat for the Obama supporters to dump more money into his war chest.

Looks like that Move On endorsement helped after all.

But I have to wonder if Hillary can keep this up. Other candidates have had big fundraising efforts online: Ron Paul, Fred Thompson for example. But then they stop. Obama keeps taking in money every day, even if not at the clip of $6 million a day.

It's so funny to watch people try and spin $3 million in one day as irrelevant.  You know, Obama could raise $20 million and it would still be a pretty significant fact.

Did Obama break the all-time record for online fundraising today? I was looking around for numbers, and stumbled across this (with a Jerome quote, oddly enough):

Today, Nov. 5, marks not only Paul's best fundraising haul in a single day -- approximately $3.75 million by 11 p.m. EST -- but online observers say it's also the most money raised by a candidate on the Web in a single day. And the day's not over yet. "Damn. Wow. Um, that's pretty awesome," said a stunned Jerome Armstrong who served as Howard Dean's online strategist. Armstrong, the founder of the popular blog MyDD, said Dean raised as much as $700,000 in one day toward the end of the primary race. "But not a million," Armstrong added. "What Paul is doing -- or what his supporters are doing -- is really impressive."

I believe Paul raised $4.2 million when all was said and done, which Obama passed hours ago. Or is there a bigger record out there somewhere?

Ugh, all this talk about money is making my stomach turn. To think that people might make their voting decision based on a tv commercial.

I guess it's been going on since the beginning of time, but this is just ridiculous.

Jerome,

Presumably Hillary's campaign has to pay back the $5,000,000 that she loaned to it.  So, even if she is doing well in fundraising today, a good chunk of the $$ is going back into her pocket, and will not be used to advance her campaign. $5 million out, $5 million back in.  Or am I missing something?

the link that is here.
http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/2/6/23443 5/8303

Also, who knows how much it really is. Could it be 4, 5, 6 or more?

Progressive Blue

Is it Obama's new kind of Washington Politics?  What a change Mr. Obama?  

Yes we can! NO YOU CAN'T.

It's not $6 million in a month for Obama. It's $6 million in one day. $3 mil is impressive in one day for Hillary. But Obama has doubled that.

"In the last 24 hour period, Clinton is keeping pace with Moveon & Obama combined."

This is not accurate. Obama doubled Clinton. That is not "keeping pace" by  any stretch of the imagination.

No use...no matter what Clinton does, the Obama people will claim it's "no big deal". Basically, she needs some money so if it means obama is going to double whatever she makes, go ahead, at least shes getting something from it.

Hillary's grassroot is made up of poor people or middle class Americans. Just because the true hard working Americans can not afford to donate money like the lazy wine drinking hope filled rich liberals and independents, doesnt mean she doesnt have grassroot appeal.

Who voted for Hillary? Go look at them (after you have finished your wine and spewed hatred for fellow Americans) and then understand why Hillary is still standing inspite of your rich elite media driven hatred filled campaign.

Obama campaign = Hope for rich and media elite
Clinton campaign = Hope for poor and hard working Americans

Whatever happened to:

"We are very frustrated because we have a Supreme Court that seems determined to say that the wealthier have more right to free speech than the rest of us. For example, they say you couldn't stop me from spending all the money I've saved over the last five years on Hillary's campaign if I wanted to, even though it would clearly violate the spirit of campaign finance reform," - Bill Clinton, December 24, 2007.

See, now the Obama people is making this about money. Go figure.

It was said before Tuesday that Obama was on track to raise as much or more money in February than they did in January,  which means they were on at least a 1 million a day clip. If you add to that the 6+ they've pulled in today, they've raised at least 11 million in 6 days.  And that's not counting the money the raised on January 31st which was their biggest day in January and not included in January's total.

The email was correct at the time. But Obama has been raising money at an incredible speed tonight. It's been about a million every couple hours.

does that count the 5 million she just loaned herself in that one day tally?

Did you know that Obama raised more the 4 million from ACTUAL VOTERS since the polls closed last night. Delude yourselves if you will.

The Clinton campaign may not be able to match the big-dollar wine and latte donors for Obama, but the fact that a lot of blue-collar, lower middle class working people are donating to her what they can afford is the BIG story here.  

I would think some of you might think twice before mocking the efforts of those who have little to give to Clinton, but are giving it anyway, by comparing them to those contributing to the already bloated coffers of Obama.  With homeless vets sleeping under bridges and children going without health care, there's something disgusting about the glee being expressed over this money raising contest.

Jerome, your update makes no sense.  Presumably the Obama campaign has received $3 million and change since the 6:25 PM email, and this was reflected in the graphic on the website.  This isn't rocket science - you must be acting deliberately obtuse.

you are a clinton tool

"We'll go with the higher amount, so Obama's raised 2:1 over the last 24 hours, against Clinton. If they continue on like this for a few more days, Obama will have $15M to Clintons $7.5M to spend... the point is, there is more than enough money being raised by both sides that its not really a significant advantage."

Totally makes sense, thanks for the clarification.

But this part:

"It may be, I was going off of an email "just sent out" at 6:25 pm today quoting David Plouffe saying, "Thanks to you, we have raised more than $3 million since the polls closed on February 5th." Obvioulsy, either the Plouffe statement is incorrect, or the graphic is wrong."

makes you sound a little slow. The email went out at 6:25 pm EST, and the number quoted in the text was correct at the time. It was accompanied by a live graphic that updates every time you load the page or email. The graphic now reads:

6,416,037
http://my.barackobama.com/page/contribut e_c/sincefeb5_email/graphic

How difficult is that to understand?

>>Obvioulsy, either the Plouffe statement is incorrect, or the graphic is wrong.<<

Actually, neither is wrong.  It was 3 mil between polls closing on Feb 5th and when the e-mail was sent out.  In the 6-7 hours since the e-mail was sent, Obama raised another 3+ mil...

jerome, you do realize the $3M was to RETIRE DEBT?  They've already spent that money so there is Zero Net Gain...

Obama raised more than $31M in January... he had 24,000 (10%) more donors before the end of the night on the 31st...

And it's $6.4M Today.  

You know who this matters too? Superdelegates...

Just want to emphasize what others are saying: the graphic is a running counter.  There's nothing "incorrect" about anything Plouffe said; the Obama camp simply raised a little over $3 mil in the past 6-7 hrs.

So Clinton out raised him at the end of 07...yet the obama peeps dont mention that.

The 6 million dollar figure is for a single day, not for the month. In fact, Jerome, you know that because in this thread you have linked to the website that has that very information.

Framing it this way is obviously a deceptive attempt to frame the comparative numbers in a light more favorable to Clinton (one day versus the whole month) that isn't justified by the facts.

Which is really too bad, because I think an argument could be made that Clinton did very well considering the circumstances (and I say that as an Obama supporter). Given the more maxed out donor base and a less rabid online community, raising that much quick money is pretty impressive. Perhaps not as impressive as Obama's numbers, but not the blowout we thought it was a few hours ago.

But then you had to go and lie about it. Shame on you.  

"OBAMA!!!!" is the new.... "RON PAUL!!!!"

but with even less substance.

Go Hillary!

The question of course, is can HRC keep it up. Obama clearly can. He has a broad base of support among small donors and the amount of maxed out donors is in the single digits. More than 1/2 of of HRC donors are maxed out and her base of support is unlikely to grow substantially.

The long road, which this is, favors Obama. As does the next month. Hard to go into the  big states after February not winning one contest. That's a distinct possibility for HRC and we see how that worked for Rudy.

This update is even worse.

"More than $3 million" is consistent with "6.4 million." Especially since the email was sent out...hours ago.

Are you being deliberately obtuse?

And what's the deal with "it may be" that 6.4 has been raised today? Do you have some reason to doubt it?

As I noted above, I donated tonight and it was not the max donation. I only gave for the first time about two days ago.

Thus she is building a list of new donors, which are  also a source of volunteers.

It's also another way for her to connect directly with her supporters without the crap of the MSM or bigger blogs. Her biggest asset is her direct emotional connection with her supporters. Unlike her opponent who favors large worshiping crowds.

So Obama can keep harvesting tons of money. But I suspect most donors are folks who have already given to him. Further at a certain point the sheer numbers and overwhelming obnoxious of the more vocal donors begins a backlash. So keep it coming.

(Too harsh. Sorry. His leaflet about how Bill destroyed the Democratic Party was too much. One, it pretends that Gingrich, et al. didn't exist. Two, it implies that he would have done better when he has no basis of proof for it.)

Ask Mitt Romney how his cash infused campaign is holding up against McCain's BROKE campaign lol

I don't understand how it is obnoxious or snorting "hopium" to point out that the wording of the post was an open and shut case of deceit.

I said before that these are impressive numbers for Clinton. Doesn't change what Jerome did.

Is there a link to her website which shows this figure?

Is there a link to her website which shows this figure?

Please tell me how to understand this.

This is the left party right. Yet Hillary Clinton is lending her campaign 5 million (maybe more) to HER campaign. Meanwhile she has $60 million and she is she is vying for endorsements from unions made of janitors and housekeepers that make 40k a year. IS IT ME? This is a crime?The clintons are REPUBLICANS. Don't you get it. She will not swear off multilateral trade agreements. She won't swear off tax cuts. She won't swear off lobbyists. Fine she is for universal Healthcare but she is a sham rapped in a lie. She is no more beneficial to the real concerns of poor people then Tony Blair, who forced the labour party to take socialism out of the labour parties charter when he became KING.

Hillary, like Bill, is the enemy. She is not a social democrat in any way. She is a republican in every respect except name. I am astonished by peoples lack of willingness to engage this. She is the enemy of poor people. Sure the jury on Obama is out, but at least I am not sure if he is an economic conservative. I am positive she actually believes in trickle down economics. WAKE UP HIILBOTS

Thanks to your post, Jerome, I just gave my SECOND donation to Obama. Only ten dollars, but is all I can afford. I am a poor college student living off my student loans and working as a pizza delivery guy.

I just can't believe how you can be so dishonest, and such a shill.

Then you have the gall to compare Barack Obama to Ron Paul! You must feel really threatened by the change movement.

I guess you don't support change, unless it pays you  (ala Dean 2004)

Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

Actually werd2406 I have a PhD in Political Science. yes I have exaggerated about her, but the points I make hold. Yes I am a social democrat, but I am drawn into the democratic party by Obama. I absolutely know he is a very risky bet, but I also know that my understanding of the world, and HRC's understanding of the world are extremely different. I know that bill clinton signed welfare to work, the wto, Nafta and many of the other issues that have SCREWED poor people.

WERD2406 I will not be belittled by your BS

Look at the US statistics. real wages have dropped for poor people throughout the 90's even while the economy "grew".

That is average wages (weighted towards the upper middle class). Not the wages of those living in poverty as we shifted to a service sector economy.

Further it does not account for the casualization of labor which took place under the Clinton regime where people have higher wages but their benefits and security are lost

Can everyone just shut up!

Money is money. Who cares who raised more. Obama raised $32 million compared to Clinton $13.5 million in January and sill lost the popular vote.

Just relax. Money is not everything. You're turning this damn primary race into a money race.

the point is, there is more than enough money being raised by both sides that its not really a significant advantage, especially at the Presidential level-- you need enough money but having a ton more cannot alone win it. Ask Ron Paul.

For a long time I've been reading MyDD and have had a lot of respect for the dialog that goes on here. I continue to respect the work that many of the bloggers here are doing, but this post is beyond the pale.  

Jerome, you just lost a reader.  Trying to pretend you were honestly trying to paint a picture of reality when your post was so blatantly pure pro-Clinton spin and deliberate distortion is no better than Fox News claiming to be "fair and balanced."

Bye.

Money matters in this election.

It has to matter when the biggest grassroots-funded campaign in American history is going up against an establishment candidate flush with lobbyist and special interest money. That Clinton is running out of gas in the tank is just a reflection of her coterie of overpaid staffers like Mark Penn who have in the past worked for the likes of Blackwater and genocidal dictators.

I bet you Hillary supporters, noble warriors of the Democratic tradition, can't wait to see Clinton installed in the White House with Mark Penn at her side. We can all cheer and herald the coming of a new liberal era with Dean and his 50-state strategy on the street, the Republicans surging into congress, and another 8 years of DLC-led centrism breaking the back of America's working class.

Truly, a great deed done by Jerome, Taylor Marsh, and all of the other blindered heels pissing into the wind of change.

Totally believe it.  Turned off by the nastiness and smugness of many Obama surporters, I donated to her campaign for the first time yesterday.  Certainly not the only one to do so.

Hillary Clinton is going to be in Seattle (Thursday 1-7). You can all make it, it will be in the evening!

   Join Hillary for a "Solutions for America" rally in Seattle, Washington
    When

   Thursday, February 7, 2008 at 8:00 PM -  10:00 PM

   Where

   Pier 30
    2431 E Marginal Way South
    Seattle, WA 98134
    General Area:

   Description

   Join Hillary Clinton for a "Solutions for America" rally in Seattle Thursday, February 7.

   Host

   Washington For Hillary
    http://hillaryclinton.com/hq/washington/

Map and more here:
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/actioncent er/event/view/?id=8940

Also see this:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/6/2 3290/73380

Progressive Blue

I can't take this blog any more and it kills me since I started coming here back in 2002 when Jerome was talking about the "countdown to Speaker Gephardt" counter on Markos's more recent site.  I like both Clinton and Obama and while Daily Kos, TPM, and other sites have some slants, this place really feels like it's an echo chamber these days.

No offense Jerome, but your tone has really changed in the last 6-9 months.  I don't know what it is, but you used to always disagree but respect the opinions of all the commenters, and I don't quite see that anymore.

Anyway, goodbye and good luck MyDD, it was great for a really long time, and I'm really going to miss what this place once was... :(

Ok, so a more than 2:1 advantage with the 5 million loan already spent and Obama shooting for 8 million tommorrow makes no difference?

Yeah sure

can't even hide his contempt for Obama anymore....

This post is only worthy of Fox News.  No wonder the credible bloggers left to create their own blog.  I'm going over to openleft.com

Real hard working Americans are for Hillary but they dont have enough money to donate. All the lower middle class people are supporting Hillary. She is their hope. Not the other hope candidate.

Obama is riding on rich wine drinking liberals and independents. And of course blacks. If blacks have voted based on class and yearly earning like all other groups, then Clinton would have won by now. Obama got more delegates from heavily black areas. That is not an example of building coalition of diverse groups.

The real coalition is build by Hillary. It is made up of people whose voices are never heard. Whose voices are drowned by rich upper class people, by media elites and big oil / pharma companies. If you see, Obama is supported by rich upper class people, by media elite and big oil / pharma / nuclear companies.

I wonder why CNN doesnt go to the heart of American people and show that their is a silent movement for Hillary by real hard working Americans. All they can do is vote and they did, which has enabled Hillary to stand so far.

Another thing, in that diary quoted, The Clinton Campaign has not put out an official pr/memo indicating it raised 3M dollars.  The diarist stated it was word of mouth and quoted Taylor Marsh.  The post would be more credible if the diarist had the Clinton Campaign official statement.  So far, none.

Heh, at 6.9 million now. From about 7-12pm there was about 3,000,000 raised. We were are all hot to beat the Clinton campaign loan. Then to beat Ron Paul (which we either did, nearly did or tied as of midnight eastern).

Now the push is to beat the loan+ the $3 million Clinton raised in 72 hours.

I am on the official Clinton list (I got the "let's raise 3 million in 3 days!" email) but nothing about successfully doing it yet.

While I agree that Obama will outfundraise Clinton significantly this month, you should be careful to extrapolate numbers based on a small sampling.

You can see the large fluctations of money fund raising on http://RonPaulGraphs.com.

In particular, if you look at
http://ronpaulgraphs.com/daily_totals.ht ml
you should be aware that the scale is LOGRITHMIC not linear. Because some days they raised 6 million and some days much less (e.g. they only raised $21,000 four days before their $1.8 million on Martin Luther King day).

While Ron Paul's campaign promotes specific peak days, the effect of these promotions (there is at least one per week) is quite varied. Plus you can consider the day after a successful primary as a promotion day so I'm sure Obama's fundraising in January shows these kinds of peaks and valleys too (and they do have occasional campaign promotions).

One last note, while it's clear Obama will far out fundraise anyone else Obama still hasn't raised as much on a single day as Ron Paul has, so give the Paulites their due too.

And it would be nice to see Obama more clearly ACT on his words about openness, but simply publishing live numbers every minute, every day, like Ron Paul has been doing for 4 months, instead of only during brief, POLITICALLY TACTICAL periods that Obama has been doing.

And one more comment on the opening post. Yes it is true that money doesn't buy a nomination for Ron Paul. He needed that much money just to get ANY NOTICE from the MSM press. Obama got FAR MORE notice by the MSM before he had raised one dime.

So let's not compare apples to oranges. A better comparion is how money has hurt or helped Obama vs. Clinton. Or Romney vs. McCain.

Jerome,

Please show your source for this $3 million.  Linking to a Kos diary is not helping the cause.

I'm sure there is a real confirmation out there somewhere.

I'm amused by the fact that 3 commentors, all in a row, suddenly show up out of nowhere to announce that they're leaving the site they love because of that meanie Jerome and his biased coverage.  Gee, nothing transparent about that stunt, guys.

Why would you believe anything coming from the Clinton campaign re money?  She concealed the fact that she had loaned her campaign money, what else is she concealing?

Received am email from the campaign that they actually raise over 4 million in one day...and are attempting to raise 6 million in 72 hours...also say 35,000 online contributors in one day

This is spin, and with the absolute flood of anti-Obama/Pro-Clinton diaries with all of the comments in the echo chamber, mydd is dangerously close to becoming an extension of the Clinton campaign.

Also the delegate counter is EXTREMELY misleading, adding Florida and Mi in with no disclaimer is pretty lame.

Mydd prefers status quo. That is their perogative. This site is a Clinton cheerleader but this is america and they can cheerlead for whomever they want.

When Hillary sponsors 2.5 billion in earmarks(most in the congress) over the last 5 years,with many of these being no-bid contracts to military contractors who have contributed heavily to HRC's campaign, she is the embodiment of a corrupt influence peddling system that John Edwards abhorrs. But surprisingly, despite being an Edwards leaning site..now Clinton is who MyDD is endorsing and promoting.

Obama's earmarks? 2 for 30k going to non-profit orgs.
HRC earmarks?  over 600 for over 2.5 billion
McCains earmarks? zero in 24 years in the senate.

Now, how much hay will McCain make with HRC's influence peddling?  A lot.
He also beats her on the war issue. She voted for it, and now is against it?

Obama is a stronger general election candidate than HRC against McCain. But Mydd seems to prefer to lose with HRC than win with Obama.
Free country.

I am an Obama supporter and to all the other Obama supporters, I say this: Please avoid generating higher expectations than Obama can fulfill. Avoid predictions of winning and avoid stating that his fundraising numbers means he's gonna win and that Clinton is out. We have seen this in the days before New Hampshire and look what happend. Obama is the underdog, Clinton is the establishment, we have the momentum, let's fight on.

About $357,000 for Obama, and this is separate from the Obama counter.

http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsm emo.com/2008/02/moveon_raised_over_32000 0_for.php

Well, here's an excerpt from the e-mail I received today from the Clinton campaign...

You exceeded our $3 million goal in less than 24 hours. In fact, we've already hit FOUR MILLION DOLLARS! Incredible! And so far, more than 35,000 people -- 35,000! -- have made online contributions.

Your response has been so amazing that we are doubling our goal: $6 million in 72 hours.