Let's Talk About Sex(ism)

Robin Morgan ran an essay in RAT back in 1970, called Goodbye To All That.   Well Ms. Morgan has just updated that essay, and given the double standard that seems to have taken hold in this campaign, I thought it was worth discussing.  In so many ways, Morgan echoes what I've been thinking for a very long time now, but have never quite been able to express as eloquently as this.  Here is part of what she had to say in those 8 pages...

Goodbye To All That (#2)   by Robin Morgan

Goodbye to the double standard . . .

Hillary is too ballsy but too womanly, a Snow Maiden who's emotional, and so much a politician as to be unfit for politics.

She's "ambitious" but he shows "fire in the belly." (Ever had labor pains?)

When a sexist idiot screamed "Iron my shirt!" at HRC, it was considered amusing; if a racist idiot shouted "Shine my shoes!" at BO, it would've inspired hours of airtime and pages of newsprint analyzing our national dishonor.


Goodbye to the toxic viciousness  . . .

Carl Bernstein's disgust at Hillary's "thick ankles." Nixon-trickster Roger Stone's new Hillary-hating 527 group, "Citizens United Not Timid" (check the capital letters).

C - U - N - T..  

It's disgusting but this kind of shite needs to be called out at every opportunity - it's beyond offensive to any thinking progressive human being.  I don't think you have to be humor-challenged to find that sexist and unacceptable and yet...

I can hear some of you boys out there tittering away at this even now

Can you imagine if someone had set up a 527 group with the initials spelling out the N word?   Stone's group gets away with it but I can't even utter the word I'm thinking of in putting the shoe on the other foot.  It's just mind-blowing that this kind of shite is tolerated now that we're in the 21st Century!

John McCain answering "How do we beat the bitch?" with "Excellent question!" Would he have dared reply similarly to "How do we beat the black bastard?" For shame.

B - I - T - C - H

There's another word people have no problem throwing around while at the same time not even being able to utter the N word in polite company.  Or any company for that matter.  For some of us - they're equally offensive.

Goodbye to the HRC nutcracker with metal spikes between splayed thighs. If it was a tap-dancing blackface doll, we would be righteously outraged--and they would not be selling it in airports. Shame.

Some people just don't fecking get it.  We're talking about someone's daughter, wife, mother, sister... would you tolerate this kind of treatment of the girls or women in your life?  I sure as hell hope not!

Goodbye to the sick, malicious idea that this is funny. This is not "Clinton hating," not "Hillary hating." This is sociopathic woman-hating. If it were about Jews, we would recognize it instantly as anti-Semitic propaganda; if about race, as KKK poison.  Hell, PETA would go ballistic if such vomitous spew were directed at animals. Where is our sense of outrage--as citizens, voters, Americans?

So goodbye to conversations about this nation's deepest scar--slavery--which fail to acknowledge that labor- and sexual-slavery exist today in the U.S. and elsewhere on this planet, and the majority of those enslaved are women.

Women have endured sex/race/ethnic/religious hatred, rape and battery, invasion of spirit and flesh, forced pregnancy; being the majority of the poor, the illiterate, the disabled, of refugees, caregivers, the HIV/AIDS afflicted, the powerless. We have survived invisibility, ridicule, religious fundamentalisms, polygamy, teargas, forced feedings, jails, asylums, sati, purdah, female genital mutilation, witch burnings, stonings, and attempted gynocides. We have tried reason, persuasion, reassurances, and being extra-qualified, only to learn it never was about qualifications after all. We know that at this historical moment women experience the world differently from men--though not all the same as one another--and can govern differently, from Elizabeth Tudor to Michele Bachelet and Ellen Johnson Sirleaf.

I earned a degree in international relations / Third World development back in the early-`80s & the atrocity of slavery and the way women and children were treated was swept under the rug back then just as it is today.  It's absolutely unacceptable that we have made so little progress in all these years.  And I'm convinced that if we elevate a woman to the most powerful post in this world, these horrific practices will be addressed.  People will not only talk about this dirty little secret on the world stage, but they'll actually DO something about ending it.

Hillary found her voice in New Hampshire - she shone as bright as the North Star and many of us finally got to hear her words rather than those of the campaign experts, her husband and the MSM out there.  Listen up - here's some of what she's been saying...

"For too long, the history of women has been a history of silence. Even today, there are those who are trying to silence our words.

"It is a violation of human rights when babies are denied food, or drowned, or suffocated, or their spines broken, simply because they are born girls. It is a violation of human rights when woman and girls are sold into the slavery of prostitution. It is a violation of human rights when women are doused with gasoline, set on fire and burned to death because their marriage dowries are deemed too small. It is a violation of human rights when individual women are raped in their own communities and when thousands of women are subjected to rape as a tactic or prize of war. It is a violation of human rights when a leading cause of death worldwide along women ages 14 to 44 is the violence they are subjected to in their own homes. It is a violation of human rights when women are denied the right to plan their own families, and that includes being forced to have abortions or being sterilized against their will.

"Women's rights are human rights. Among those rights are the right to speak freely--and the right to be heard."

That was Hillary Rodham Clinton defying the U.S. State Department and the Chinese Government at the 1995 UN World Conference on Women in Beijing (look here for the full, stunning speech).

While Hillary served as First Lady back in the `90s, her office was widely known as the de facto office on human rights.  I have no doubt that the Oval Office will have that dubious distinction if she's our next President.

Now I've never had a problem in letting others know what I'm thinking on any given issue.  Call it a like-it-or-leave-I-couldn't-care-less sort of an attitude.  (Hey I post here in support of Hillary - that should tell you a lot!).  So it's hard for me to understand the timidity others feel when it comes to supporting Hillary in this election.  I firmly believe that putting Hillary in the Oval Office is the single best thing we can do to lift up the lives of women and girls all over this world.  I said as much in my first pro-Hillary diary on DailyKos back in June.  Morgan echoes that feeling here...

Time is short and the contest tightening. We need to rise in furious energy--as we did when Anita Hill was so vilely treated in the U.S. Senate, as we did when Rosie Jiminez was butchered by an illegal abortion, as we did and do for women globally who are condemned for trying to break through. We need to win, this time. Goodbye to supporting HRC tepidly, with ambivalent caveats and apologetic smiles. Time to volunteer, make phone calls, send emails, donate money, argue, rally, march, shout, vote.

As for the "woman thing"?

Me, I'm voting for Hillary not because she's a woman--but because I am..

(Emphasis added)

Damn but that's powerful stuff!

Now I'm not sure if you caught an article on HuffPo by Martha Burk, Gloria Feldt, Cecelia Fire Thunder, Lulu Flores, Kim Gandy, Ellen Malcolm, Irene Natividad, Ellie Smeal, Gloria Steinem, Rep. Stephanie Tubbs Jones a couple days ago, but it was a real eye-opener.  It sort of echoes what I wrote back in June of how Hillary's presidency will help women and girls around this world.  She's stood by us in our fight to defend our reproductive rights.  She stood on a world stage in Beijing 13 years ago and declared that women's rights are human rights (what a novel idea!), and she's led the fight to give women access to emergency contraception, allowing us to determine our own future when it comes to our reproductivity.

I'm excited about this election for what it means to my little girl, who just turned 7 and will grow up believing us when we tell her she really can be anything she wants to be when she grows up - even president.  Unlike mine, hers will be first generation to believe it because they've seen it happen in their lifetime.  And what a POWERFUL message that is!

Why Hillary Is The Right Choice For Women

As women who have spent our careers fighting to protect a woman's right to choose, we recognize that the next president will face serious challenges to safeguard the reproductive health of women. In our opinion, there is one candidate whose leadership on this issue is unparalleled: Hillary Clinton.

They go on to list why they believe she'll stand next to them us in the fight to appoint Supreme Court Justices who will protect our hard-fought reproductive rights.  She'll stand up for families because she's fought for the Family & Medical Leave Act and fought to cover military families under that Act.  They talked about her work in reducing unplanned pregnancies and of their confidence that she will stand with them in this fight going forward.  They know Hillary will continue to work to expand our contraceptive options because of her 3-year battle with the White House to get approval for Plan B emergency contraception and make it available over the counter.  And they're confident that Hillary will continue her fight to give low-income women access to family planning services because she's already fought to increase funding for these services through Medicaid and Title X.

They also referenced her historic speech in China, where she said that women's rights are human rights.  May not seem like a big deal to you guys, but to women - especially in the developing world this was a liberating thing to hear!

In other words, Hillary doesn't just talk the talk when it comes to our rights - she walks the walk!  More from Gandy et al...

We trust Hillary Clinton because every time we needed her by our side, she has been there.

Let us be clear -- the stakes are high in this election. We firmly believe that no one is better situated to confront the challenges awaiting the next president. As a pro-choice president, Hillary Clinton will make Supreme Court appointments and decisions ensuring women's reproductive rights in this country.

Kim Gandy (president of NOW) sent me an email the other day, and she spoke of Hillary's record of standing strong in defense of our rights...

From her earliest days advising battered women, helping abused children, and providing free legal services to the poor, to her time in the White House advocating for universal healthcare, championing the S-CHIP (State Child Health Insurance) program, and helping to pass the Violence Against Women Act, to her service as a U.S. Senator, standing strong for reproductive rights and writing legislation to expand contraceptive access, helping win approval of emergency contraception, sponsoring equal pay legislation, and speaking out on the floor against the nominations of John Roberts and Samuel Alito to the Supreme Court, specifically saying that they would damage Roe v. Wade if confirmed. She was right, and I know we can count on her to nominate pro-women, pro-choice judges to the courts at every level.

Lastly, I'd like to share a video I found with everyone here.  I watched this last night with my little girl and it brought tears to my eyes.  Hillary truly is superwoman - blazing a trail for girls like my daughter and crashing through that highest and thickest of glass ceilings for all of us.

Check it out...



Now - for those who'd like to help pave the way for Hillary on her road to the White House, I'd love it if you would make a contribution to her historic campaign.  Those TeeVee ads won't buy themselves after all!

Please help Hillary with whatever you can spare

$5, $20, $50, $100 or even (!!!) a thousand bucks.  It all adds up and you'll be a part of history by helping out.

Thanks!

Cross-posted at Daily Kos and at HillarysBloggers.com

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No More Double Standards (1.85 / 7)

You wouldn't want someone to treat a woman or girl you love the way Hillary's been treated.  We all deserve respect.

Hillary's talking about the issues we care about and she can make things happen.

BTW - This is cross-posted over at DailyKos and is now on the REC LIST.  Help me get on the Rec List here and we'll make it a daily double!


Donate to Hillary Now!
by alegre on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 10:04:30 PM EST

Re: No More Double Standards (1.00 / 2)

Troll rated because equating "bitch" and racial slurs is offensive, and overtly racist.

Saying opposition to the clintons is sexism is like saying opposing Israeli policies is motivated by pure anti-Semitism.  It's hate and desperation and that's all the Clinton campaign has left at this point.


by mddem456 on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 06:23:09 AM EST
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Re: No More Double Standards (2.00 / 1)

What do you think calling a woman 'bitch' is then, if not sexist? Feminist?


by frankies on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 07:02:08 AM EST
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Re: No More Double Standards (none / 0)

This "women = Hillary" strategy is ridiculous.  But can you understand that isn't a hit piece on Obama?


by mddem456 on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 02:32:31 PM EST
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Re: No More Double Standards (none / 0)

Bullshit.  Calling Hillary Clinton a "bitch" or "cunt" is not one whit less offensive than calling Barack Obama a "nigger" would be, and pointing this out doesn't make anyone a racist.  Denying it, however, does suggest that you are either sexist or just plain clueless.  FYI, I would have voted for Edwards had he still been in the race when election day arrived in Arizona, and the choice between Senators Clinton and Obama came down to something near a coin flip for me -- I finally voted for Clinton because I think her healthcare plan will work better than Obama's, but either one will have my whole-hearted support against that soulless pseudo-moderate John McCain.  Not that we'll be able to beat the bastard here in his home state, his below-50% showing in the primary notwithstanding, but I can always work a phone bank calling Florida or Ohio -- and telling the voters there, as an Arizonan, how little I like our senior senator.  (About the best that can be said for him is that he's not as big a douchebag as his junior colleague, Jon "Death Tax" Kyl.)


Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama for President! Beat McCain!
by Alex on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 02:45:33 PM EST
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Re: No More Double Standards (none / 0)

It's a man's world.
Males control the media, Congress, Corporate America, etc.
Hillary has taken the brunt of a longstanding assault on women!

Hillary/Obama08
by annefrank on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 10:56:07 AM EST
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What is the point of comparing racism (none / 0)

and sexism like this?  There are soooo many more productive ways you could be spending your time than trying to pit women and African-Americans against each other.


One Million Strong --- Join up
by psericks on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 10:09:35 PM EST

Thank you!! (2.00 / 1)

A wonderful diary - tough to read and remember my own experiences.  But important to remember, too.

How much would it cost to put that video on network TV - wow...powerful stuff?

We donated today.

Go Hillary!!!!!  And thank you, Hillary, for all you've done for me, my daughter and all of my girlfriends  You will never know how very much we appreciate your sacrifice for the rest of us.


by Shazone on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 10:18:16 PM EST

yeah (none / 0)

I'd say that's true sexism is endorsed and not confronted while racism is on the cable news and MSM at least.  I'd say the blogs too.

I've noticed this extensively.  Hillary has to cosponsor S.1035 for me to get on board but of course Obama won't even though it's his colleague's bill (Durbin).  

But, it's pretty clear she's getting hammered by sexism.  


NoSlaves.com | The Economic Populist
by Robert Oak on Wed Feb 06, 2008 at 11:57:37 PM EST

He's not better or more deserving (2.00 / 1)

than her.  And I'm a man.


by lombard on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 12:24:31 AM EST

Re: Let's Talk About Sex(ism) (none / 0)

You know, Kerry was bruised, bloodied and battered in the 2004 contest.  But no one called it sexism or racism or any other ism.  So I find this diary a little off the mark.  Politics is rough, really rough.

Also, be careful attributing too much of the animosity towards Hillary as sexism.  I believe that the source of it is not because she is a woman, it is that she is a Clinton.


by Trent on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 12:31:45 AM EST

Re: Let's Talk About Sex(ism) (2.00 / 2)

Here is a news flash for you. Kerry is a white protestant man, and he ran against other white protestant men. It would have been pretty odd for him to claim racism or sexism in that context, don't you think?


Your attempt to change the subject to "the issues" is irrelevant.
by itsthemedia on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 04:27:31 AM EST
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Re: Let's Talk About Sex(ism) (2.00 / 1)

Oops, my bad - he is Catholic. But JFK pretty much cleared the Catholic thing away for us in 1960, so it would have been pretty hard for Kerry to claim anti-Catholic bias, even if there was some.


Your attempt to change the subject to "the issues" is irrelevant.
by itsthemedia on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 04:30:06 AM EST
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Re: Let's Talk About Sex(ism) (none / 0)

Politics hasn't been rough for Obama.
He sailed through his Sen. election - and the Corporate Owned Media is sailing him through his prez election.

How many newly elected senators begin plotting a presidential run during their first MONTH in office?
If it weren't for the media establishment, the DC establishment, and the Dem establishment promoting Obama 24/7 - he'd just be another senator.
Obama is too OWNED to change anything in Washington.


Hillary/Obama08
by annefrank on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 11:05:57 AM EST
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Re: Let's Talk About Sex(ism) (none / 0)

You're just grasping at any straw to slag off on Obama.

He's hardly OWNED by the establishment.

Hillary is the one that started out at the "inevitable" candidate.  Inevitability can only come from an entrenched machine.

Hillary is the one that appeared on all five Sunday morning talk shows before the Iowa caucuses.  (Or a little earlier.)  It seems like the MSM was pretty agreeable to her then.

The public's and the media's response to Hillary is just a question of accountability:  They are responding to the way she has conducted her campaign, as in a bigger sense, the way the Clintons conducted themselves while in the White House.

These are all valid criticisms.  You can disagree with these criticisms, but they are hardly unreasonable.

I DO consider your signature unreasonable, though.  There is no point in demonizing exactly one half of the Democratic electorate as "Bushies" just because your candidate hasn't wrapped up her coronation as she had expected.


by Trent on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 12:35:12 PM EST
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Re: Let's Talk About Sex(ism) (none / 0)

Obama has gotten a BIG PASS from the media - all throughout 2007 - to date.

Early in his campaign, Obama initially LIED about his longstanding relationship with Rezko. The MSM played ignorant and kept promoting "hope."

Then - AFTER Rezko was indicted - Obama backtracked on the relationship and began returning Rezko donations.

Obama and his Slumlord --
http://media.www.thehilltoponline.com/me dia/storage/paper590/news/2008/02/05/Edi torials/Obama.And.His.Slumlord-3188606.s html


Hillary/Obama08
by annefrank on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 01:12:11 PM EST
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Re: Let's Talk About Sex(ism) (2.00 / 1)

Thanks for posting this. I wish more people took time to think about how they were encouraging sexism. So many do it, and don't realize they are.


by lepidus on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 12:34:20 AM EST

On the sexism in this race (2.00 / 1)

First of all, thanks for reminding everyone to donate.  I went to her site and donated some more today.  I'm glad these messages of financing needs are leaking out if they motivate more people to donate.

I'm a man and I do believe sexism is operating in this race.  But, I don't think the root of the sexism is the kneejerk "fear of a strong woman" so often cited by feminists.  I think something else is operating here.

What I think is operating is a matter of stylistic differences and taste in Clinton vs. Obama supporters.  We Clinton supporters see her as knowledgeable, hard working, meritorius, quick witted, and tough.  We also think she has considerable grace, poise, and even wit and warmth.  

Obama supporters seem to think of him as "AWESOME!" like a rock star.  To them, he has a more audacious presence. I think guys (particularly younger ones) relate to this style more than Clinton's.

I think many guys may see Clinton like a school marm and just have a tendency to tune her out until the cool guy speaks.  If they really listened to her I think far more of them would have to be impressed.  I started out not liking her but when I started really listening to her I realized how "awesome" she was.  

Yes, I think there is sexism at work here but it may be a stylistic gender difference that is generating these preferences.


by lombard on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 12:41:22 AM EST

Re: Let's Talk About Sex(ism) (2.00 / 0)

The sad thing about sexism in our society is that it is utterly denied.  


by WMCB on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 01:08:20 AM EST

Re: Let's Talk About Sex(ism) (2.00 / 2)

OK, that's it, time to fight back.  Time to cross post a full-fledged campaign against MSNBC, and it's misogynist leering privileged schoolboy Obama pushers: Matthews at the top of the list, Scarborough, Olbermann, Carlson, Feinman, list goes on, Dan Abrams excepted.  They have systematically turned HRC into a laughing stock and BO into the second coming.  THEY ARE STEALING OUR DEMOCRACY.  We don't have to wait for swiftboaters - THEY ARE THE SWIFTBOATERS.
Millions of us have worked, thought, blogged, voted, donated, organized, browbeaten our friends, made GOTV calls for Hillary.  We are being defeated by them.  
Massive daily emailing to NBC, MSNBC, full boycott of all sponsors. Start posting sponsors and contacts. Remember even a small campaign squeezed an apology (well, almost) out of Tweety, and toned it down for a day or two.  C'mon, activists!  We can fight back! It's free!  Do it from home!  It'll get press coverage for god's sake.

Here's the link to more info and Matthews and NBC/MSNBC admin contacts:
http://www.legitgov.org/rectenwald_msnbc _on_matthews.html

Olbermann:  KOlbermann@msnbc.com

Scarborough: Joe@msnbc.com


On to the Convention Floor!
by oh puhleeze on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 01:11:08 AM EST

Re: Let's Talk About Sex(ism) (none / 0)

Rezko Watch --

http://rezkowatch.blogspot.com/2008/02/h ow-close-were-barack-obama-and-tony.html


Hillary/Obama08
by annefrank on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 01:17:26 PM EST
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Re: Let's Talk About Sex(ism) (none / 0)

Jesus H. Tapdancing Christ.

We can't say anything bad about Hillary because she's a woman, so that would be sexist???

It couldn't be humanly possible that we happen to prefer another candidate, or that we find the baggage she carries from the previous Clinton administration to render her less electable in the general.

As my girlfriend who sits next to me as I type this says, "It is sexist to presume that I must vote for her simply because she's a woman."

I'm sure I will vote for many future female Presidential candidates in my lifetime.

It just won't be Hillary Rodham Clinton.


by doschi on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 01:35:19 AM EST

You've got to be kidding! (2.00 / 0)

Many more good opportunities to vote for a female for president?!  What country do you live in?

I am a middle aged man who has never thought about voting for a woman before.  The biggest reason is that I haven't had ANY good opportunities.

If a woman who is THIS GOOD as a candidate and as a potential leader can't get the nomination over a Senator with two years of experience prior to running for president (and his lack of experience and knowledge have been evidenced in debates), what woman can?  This woman has done the right things to prepare herself for this position, but she can't succeed on her merits because half the party wants to vote for the new "cool" guy.


by lombard on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 12:30:40 PM EST
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Re: Let's Talk About Sex(ism) (none / 0)

I deserve better than a Clinton or a Bush.  I won't be voting for Hillary in the primary or general election because of her record of mendacity, incompetence, corporatism, and enabling George W. Bush.  It has nothing to do with sexism.


by bdungan on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 01:38:19 AM EST

Re: Let's Talk About Sex(ism) (none / 0)

All this makes a good point. Sure, most of the Hillary Hatred is sexism pure and simple. But the unspoken implication here is that it's sexist to NOT vote for her. About a year ago, she said: "If the most important thing to any of you is choosing someone who did not cast that vote or has said his vote was a mistake, then there are others to choose from." So I said, OK then. And that's why I caucused for Barack Obama. I want to see a woman president someday. But I want to end the war NOW.
by jdeeth on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 02:02:07 AM EST

Re: Let's Talk About Sex(ism) (2.00 / 1)

This is kind of a minor thread hijacking, but ...

You are conflating ending the occupation (future promise) with not having voted for the AUMF (past behavior).

Giving Obama due props for speaking out against the war, we really do not know how he would have voted if he had been in the Senate. He said so himself in 2004. Clinton did vote for the AUMF, but specifically stated at the time that her purpose was to force UN inspections to try to avert going to war. If you look at their voting records on the Iraq occupation since Obama came to the Senate, they are very similar (similarly bad, that is).

More important is the future promise to end the occupation (the war ended with W's codpiece stunt on the deck of the Lincoln). Both candidates have made promises to end the occupation, and both have hedged their promise with caveats to the point where they refused to promise all the troops would be out by 2013.

Frankly, in my opinion, there is little to choose between the two Democratic candidates' positions on Iraq. They are both extremely weak tea, and the only thing that redeems them is comparing them to the "100 years" promises of McCain.


Your attempt to change the subject to "the issues" is irrelevant.
by itsthemedia on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 04:49:34 AM EST
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Re: Let's Talk About Sex(ism) (none / 0)

I do not want Hillary to be President,  and while I found the NOW-NY type behavior to be totally ridiculous, this kind of  behavior like the 527 group using CUNT as an acronym is beyond pale. McCain should also be made to answer for humoring a guy who used the word bitch in a presidential type forum. It's one thing for private blogger to vent, but for it be humored by someone who is going to lead the country is unacceptable and I hope it will be brought up in the debates during General Election time.


by Pravin on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 05:59:08 AM EST

Re: Let's Talk About Sex(ism) (none / 0)

It was actually a woman who said "How do we beat the bitch?" to McCain, but that doesn't seem to get mentioned.


by mddem456 on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 02:53:43 PM EST
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Re: Let's Talk About Sex(ism) (none / 0)

Doesnt matter. McCain laughed at it.


by Pravin on Sat Feb 09, 2008 at 07:33:31 PM EST
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Fantastic diary (2.00 / 0)

Thank you.

Thank you for foregrounding the reality of continuing sexism in this campaign, in far too many cases misogyny, for those who fail (or refuse) to see it.  These examples come from somewhere; they are not bad apples but reflections of a society that remains sexist in many respects.

The point is not that Sen. Clinton should not be criticized for her positions and decisions.  That is a red herring.  

The point is that there is a large measure of sexism present in the coverage of the campaign, among too many Democrats and progressives, that is not directed at the senator's policies but for the mere fact she is a powerful and successful and inspiring woman.  Things that would not be said about a man with identical experience (as if that was possible), decisions, and policies.

Sadly, if it has not yet occurred, I have no doubt that in the future there will be offensive comments and assumptions about for the mere fact that he is not lily white.


"We live entangled in webs of endless deceit, often self-deceit, but with a little honest effort, it is possible to extricate ourselves from them". -- NC
by Trond Jacobsen on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 08:30:52 AM EST

Alegre--Beautiful Diary (2.00 / 0)

I will go to DKos to REC and Hotlist. ;-)


Clintonism is the kind of Government I could get used to...
by Mariel on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 09:20:50 AM EST

Re: Let's Talk About Sex(ism) (none / 0)

I wish Elizabeth Edwards was the Democratic Party candidate.

That is my position. That is who I think has the right heart, vision, strength, ethics and policies. I have heard no other speaker that I admire so much.

My fear and loathing of Margaret Thatcher had nothing to do with her semiotical purse.

The right person, at the right time. I agree with Maria Shriver, I just have to support Obama because he has captured the imagination of a nation. There is a movement to change America from the bottom up, it has captured the hope of individuals across all demographics.

Obama won caucuses because he has millions of very eager volunteers, in Alaska for example, and North Dakota. They want to be involved. HRC does not have volunteers like that in every state.

I want women to take 53% of the power in the world, but I reserve the right to choose which women.

The detestable Ann Coulter, who is, I think, a self hating woman, who is a racist, sexist, and bullying inventor of hate, has promised to support Hillary if McCain gets the Republican nomination. It has nothing to do with the advancement of women's issues.


by inexile on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 09:30:27 AM EST

Re: Let's Talk About Sex(ism) (none / 0)

The public knows more about Edwards' house than Obama's house - purchased in 2005 from a donor Sen. Obama KNEW was under federal investigation.

Michelle Obama's controversial corporate connections aren't examined as closely as Bill Clinton's. Heck! they're not even mentioned on corporate TV.


Hillary/Obama08
by annefrank on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 11:00:57 AM EST

Obama/Rezko08 (none / 0)

Obama and his Slumlord
Feb. 5, 2008 - The Hilltop - Howard Univ.

During the heated South Carolina debates, Sen. Hillary Clinton outed Sen. Barack Obama for his involvement with Chicago "slumlord" Antoin Rezko. Rezko, who serves as a landlord for a government-subsidized apartment on Chicago's Southside, has donated thousands of dollars to Obama's campaign, while his apartments suffer from dilapidated facilities and sub-par living conditions.

After the media discovered Obama's involvement with Rezko, Obama defended himself by saying that he did not know about Rezko's "slumlord" reputation, although the two had been friends for 17 years. Recently, in an attempt to distance himself from Rezko, Obama donated $85,000 of Rezko's donations to charity.

Some may argue that the use of the money is more important than the source of the money. Ethical soundness won't necessarily help the people benefited from the charities, as money does. Thus, the money was used properly. Others believe that the moral integrity of the source should be in question, and Obama should take responsibility for his actions. By donating the money, he was trying to rectify the situation by transferring the attention toward something more positive.

However, is Obama's transference of attention just a ploy to keep his name clear? Of course it is, which only adds to the shadiness of the situation. Obama only donated the money after he was publicly criticized for his involvement with Rezko. It is not probable that Obama had no idea of Rezko's reputation, especially since Rezko's apartments are only a mile from Obama's home.

This incident doesn't mean that Obama will be a bad president, but his affiliation with Rezko makes him seem dishonest to the common people to whom Obama is campaigning. The fact that they have been friends and that he accepted money from Rezko suggests that Obama was willing to look past Rezko's indiscretions in exchange for money.

Either way, Obama should have stuck with his original decision. Accepting the money and then giving it away shows inconsistency and may even suggest a lack of judgment on Obama's part. A politician who wavers under media scrutiny suggests that he goes back on his word.

If Obama decided he made a mistake, he should have just said that he made a mistake and had a lapse in judgment with regards to the people he associated with. American citizens would have been receptive to an apology from an already beloved Obama.

But by making a public donation in the amount he was given, the gesture seemed like it was "for show" and perhaps even insincere, and that's just bad politics.

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by annefrank on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 11:13:27 AM EST

Re: Let's Talk About Sex(ism) (2.00 / 1)

Male Hillary supporter here...

I find the idea that people should be more inclined to vote for Hillary because she is a woman a bit problematic.  Its a race between two candidates from groups that have been historically marginalized.  Maybe as a white male, this is easier for me to say, but I just can't make a choice on those grounds given this matchup.

However, I do want to stress two things.

1. There is very little doubt in my mind that Hillary is better qualified and would be better able to do the job.  Anybody who has been out in the world long enough should know how often better qualified women get passed over for promotions or jobs in favor of younger men characterized by more style than substance.  To see this happening on a national stage is pretty galling.  I really think that part of the reason younger women (under 25) support Obama is that they haven't really been so exposed to many of realities of institutionalized sexism.  Its a lot easier to see relative gender equality on campus than in the workplace.

2. I have found much of the media coverage of Hillary pretty appalling.  Its really a boys club, and in some ways that group has shown its true face.  Adjectives often really tell the tale.  A man like is tough and level-headed, whereas a woman is cold and calculating.  


by FuzzyDunlop2 on Thu Feb 07, 2008 at 11:40:05 AM EST


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