For Edwards Supporters: Clinton & Obama

I know some Edwards folks are still heartbroken and unable to commit (trust me, I understand--I felt the same way about Dean in 2004). But for those of you currently shopping around for a candidate, I thought I'd give a shot at putting the relative commitment of the candidates to Edwards' key issues into some perspective, as evidenced by their life stories and actions.

The following information is taken from Wikipedia, from various various organizations' mission statements, and from Hillary's autobiography, Living History.

When Obama was 9 years old:

Hillary was in law school volunteering at New Haven Legal Services to provide free legal advice for the poor and taking on cases of child abuse at Yale-New Haven Hospital. She was awarded a grant to work at Marian Wright Edelman's Washington Research Project, where she was assigned to Senator (and later VP under Jimmy Carter) Walter Mondale's Subcommittee on Migratory Labor, researching problems of, in her words, "how often farmworkers and their children were--and still too often are--deprived of basics like decent housing and sanitation." To her classmates who were "learning how to rehabilitate a corporate client's tarnished image" in those hearings, she writes, "I suggested that the best way to do that would be to improve the treatment of their farmworkers." (Living History, pp. 48-49)

When Obama was 12:

Hillary was a staff attorney for Edelman's newly founded Children's Defense Fund, which especially serves poor and minority children and those with disabilities. As an example of the work she did, Hillary went door to door to identify the source of the troubling discrepancy between numbers of school-age children and of school enrollments: "Knocking on doors was revelatory and heartbreaking. I found children who weren't in school because of physical disabilities like blindness and deafness. I also found school-age siblings at home, baby-sitting their younger brothers and sisters while their parents worked. . . . We submitted the results of our survey to Congress. Two years later, at the urging of CDF and other strong advocates, Congress passed the Education for All Handicapped Children Act, mandating that children with physical, emotional and learning disabilities be educated in the public school system." (Living History, p. 64)

When Obama was 16:

Hillary co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, a state-level alliance with the Children's Defense Fund. President Jimmy Carter appointed her to the board of directors of the Legal Services Corporation--a nonprofit federal program created to fund legal assistance for the poor--where she served with Mickey Kantor, a former legal services lawyer who had represented migrant workers in Florida. She also became the first woman to serve as chair of that board, and she successfully battled against President Ronald Reagan's attempts to reduce the funding and change the nature of the organization. Funding for the LSC during her tenure was expanded from $90 million to $300 million.

When Obama became old enough to vote:

Hillary was named the first female partner at Rose Law Firm and served as Bill's chair of the Rural Health Advisory Committee in Arkansas, where she successfully obtained federal funds to expand medical facilities in Arkansas' poorest areas without affecting doctors' fees. She also chaired the Arkansas Educational Standards Committee, by which a statewide system of teacher testing was installed to improve public education in the state.

When Obama was still in law school:

Hillary was listed as one of the 100 most influential lawyers in America, and served on the board of the Arkansas Children's Hospital Legal Services, whose mission is to provide high quality, cost-effective, fully accessible services for Arkansas' most precious resource--our children--without regard to race, religion or inability to pay. She also served as chair of the board of the Children's Defense Fund which of course focuses on poor and disadvantaged children.

When Obama was first starting out in the IL state legislature:

Hillary fought and helped to establish the Adoption and Safe Families Act and the State Children's Health Insurance Program--a federal program that provides state support for children whose parents were unable to provide them with health coverage. It covered previously uninsured children in families with incomes that are modest but too high to qualify for Medicaid, and was the largest expansion of health insurance coverage for children in the U.S. since Medicaid began in the 1960s.

In sum:

Between Hillary and Obama, there's no comparison as to whose life demonstrates more commitment to the principles Edwards championed.


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Re: For Edwards Supporters: Clinton & Obama (none / 0)

You didn't even include any of Obama's life experiences, such as community organizing or civil rights work.

Your argument was basically, Hillary is older so she is better.  Not a very good dairy.


by tom32182 on Sun Feb 03, 2008 at 03:11:46 AM EST

Re: Obama's Life Experience? Like What? (none / 0)

You mean like this life experience?

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/30/us/pol itics/30obama.html?_r=1&oref=slogin& amp;pagewanted=print

Or this life experience?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local /chi-070403obama-ballot,0,1843097.story

Or this Barack life experience?

Obama refused to support union pensions, other union issues  
01.12.2008  

http://www.goiam.org/content.cfm?cID=117 08

Obama lied about his campaign chair:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56XV7nzQ Jw

And, now ABC has introduced the Rezko story:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SrtyFY6q TA

Obama Can't Shake Connections To Chicago Insider In Trouble With FBI
http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/0 11704.php

http://abcnews.go.com:80/Blotter/story?i d=4111483&page=1

The Chicago Sun-Times has been relentless in its coverage of the scandals surrounding Obama. In a recent editorial, the Sun-Times outlined the political, if not actual legal damage Obama, is, and will continue to suffer:

"Kudos to the Chicago aldermen who are asking some of the same questions we had in response to a Sun-Times investigation published earlier this week: Why did the city and state continue to provide loans, grants and tax credits to projects that involved Tony Rezko when the city at the same time was suing his company in Housing Court for basics such as no heat? Why didn't the city shut off the spigot as soon as his buildings ran into problems? Didn't one city department know what another department was doing?"

"The investigation by reporter Tim Novak found that Rezko's development company, Rezmar Corp., got more than $100 million in government and private loans between 1989 and 1998 to renovate 30 apartment buildings for poor people. The projects quickly ran into trouble, and Rezmar was sued repeatedly by the city. Yet the city continued making deal after deal with Rezmar, which was paid nearly $7 million in development fees on the projects."

And,

"Another is presidential hopeful Sen. Barack Obama, who received more than $50,000 from the same sources between 1998 and 2004. Obama already has been forced to answer questions about a real estate deal between him and Rezko, a longtime friend, contributor and fund-raiser. In addition to that connection, Novak reported this week that Obama did previously undisclosed legal work for some of Rezko's housing development projects. He insists it was only five hours of work and that he was unaware of problems at the projects, even though 11 of them were in the state Senate district he used to represent. There's nothing illegal about the work, but his efforts to dodge Novak's questions about it make it appear as if he has something to hide."

Obama and his Rezko ties
April 23, 2007

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/35382 9,CST-NWS-rez23.article


"I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's hell." Harry S Truman
by Tennessean on Sun Feb 03, 2008 at 10:22:33 AM EST
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Re: For Edwards Supporters: Clinton & Oba (none / 0)

I agree, way to ignore any counter by ignoring Obama's career as state senator onward.


by MrMacMan on Sun Feb 03, 2008 at 12:19:53 PM EST
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It's clear Hillary is the most qualified (none / 0)

AND  Senator obama will make a great Vice-President.

This campaign has run its' course.  

senator obama has demonstrated that he belongs on the ticket.  he can use the v.p. to get experience and to pick certain issues where he can work to change America.  This, while Hillary will lead the country.


by yellowdem1129 on Sun Feb 03, 2008 at 07:11:55 AM EST

Re: For Edwards Supporters: Clinton & Obama (none / 0)

That's why THIS former Edwards supporter voted for Hillary Clinton.


"I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's hell." Harry S Truman
by Tennessean on Sun Feb 03, 2008 at 10:08:25 AM EST

Re: For Edwards Supporters: Clinton & Oba (none / 0)

because Clinton is older?

This diary is so flawed, because Clinton is older than Obama, she is better?

Uhhhh, no.


by MrMacMan on Sun Feb 03, 2008 at 12:18:43 PM EST
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Re: For Edwards Supporters: (none / 0)

Ugh. Your trolling is very unbecoming. Not because she's older. The point of the diary is simply to show that while Obama was a child, Clinton was making a difference in the world- as she has continued to do so.


While I could sit in church and pray all I want, I wouldn't be fulfilling God's will unless I went out and did the Lord's work ~ Barack Obama
by bowiegeek on Sun Feb 03, 2008 at 03:30:09 PM EST
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