I Think I Would Really Like Hillary Clinton If I Knew Her Personally

It's a funny thought for me to settle on now, with a huge election test looming on Super Tuesday. But it's the one that has slowly been working it's way up from my sub conscious mind, and now that it's arrived I'm looking at it, and it's looking back at me. Over the last six months I have seen an extraordinary amount of very negative adjectives and names attached to Hillary Clinton on political discussion boards. Down right evil words used to describe her, with "unlikable" firmly lodged at the benign end of the available spectrum. But I am not finding her unlikable at all. I am seeing much to admire about Hillary instead.

It occurred to me, how would it effect me if that type of bitter derision and accusatory hatred was aimed toward me every day? And not just by those who I can understand may have good reason to be my enemy, but also by those whose goals and vision for America I too share. A whole lot worse than it has effected her was my very quick and certain answer for myself. And Hillary has been dealing with this, to greater and lesser extents daily for over 15 years. All because she long ago dedicated her life to making a positive difference in other people's lives.

That is really what this is about for her, I have no real doubt about that. And I know that Hillary Clinton is far from being alone in politics in having made that type of personal commitment. But very few have been attacked as fiercely, as relentlessly, and for as long because of that commitment than Hillary Clinton has. She has incredible inner strength. Many people notice that, but lately I have been seeing the grace in Hillary Clinton also. Though sometimes she flashes angry, it doesn't harden into bitterness. Hillary can take a punch and come back swinging, but she knows when, and how, to take off her boxing gloves when each round is over.

Hillary's words of unity may not sound as inspirational as another famous Democrat whose name pops up a lot nowadays, but she knows how to live those words. She does it so our nation might prosper. Less than three years after the Republican dominated United States Senate tried her husband in public for high crimes and misdemeanors in an attempt to remove him from office, Hillary Clinton entered that chamber as a Senator herself. She went hard to work building the type of connections that were necessary to accomplish goals on behalf of her constituents in a divided chamber under the control of Republicans. And by all reports she succeeded.

On a very personal level Hillary's own house was earlier divided, while people across the globe discussed her husband's semen stain on another womens dress. It pains me to write that, what must it have been like to live it? Not only did Hillary Clinton find the strength to hold her head high and continue to function in public, but she stepped forward on a political level to call out by name "the vast right wing conspiracy" then attempting a quasi legal governmental coup against the elected President - her husband.

And Hillary continued to raise her teen age daughter throughout all of it, somehow shielding Chelsea's spirit from the soul deadening effect of the toxins that swirled around their lives. Hillary Clinton held her family together, Chelsea never lost the love of either parent, and today that young woman is a magnificent human being.

This year I watched in Chicago when Hillary Clinton came to Yearly Kos. She was not in friendly territory. Kossacks were respectful enough but it was clear by and large that their hearts belonged to someone else. Several someone elses in fact. Hillary Clinton was viewed as the establishment by a crowd who saw themselves as an insurgency. But she was there and she sat on that stage through a nearly two hour debate not shying away from positions that were not tailored to win that audience's approval. And Hillary remained in good humor throughout all of it.

That is something I have been thinking about today. I think MoveOn.org's rejection of Hillary as a candidate may have something to do with my thinking along these lines. Hillary Clinton, you may recall, defended MoveOn.org when they were red baited in the U.S. Senate, and she was in a minority of Senators who did so. Hillary never runs against the left no matter how ugly the attacks on her have been. She keeps seeking our support respectfully, whether or not the netroots treat her respectfully in return. That is classy, and, I think, a public reflection of the private grace that her own family is more privy to seeing than we.

I see Hillary forced to banter with people like Chris Mathews and I come away impressed. He could have been knifing her yesterday and Hillary will still embrace him in public while dead panning "I don't know how to handle men who are obsessed with me"; but the truth is she has handled all of them, all of the Hillary hating, double standard setting, sexist talking head media males extremely well. They are the divisive ones, the unlikable ones, not Hillary Clinton.

We all know how hard Hillary can be when she is facing a real fight, but she can be soft too. When she talks to gay and lesbian teens about a deadly plague of suicides and says; "we've gotta do everything we can to send a clear message that we value you, we value you as a person, as a total person, and we want you to feel accepted and respected in your community", that is going beyond mere tolerance. Hillary has been fighting for youth and families for over 20 years. Most voters have little idea how long and deeply she has cared about the health of children in America.

Both Hillary Clinton and her current primary opponent, Barack Obama, carry the weight of history on their shoulders now, moving into political territory no person of their race or gender has traveled in America before. I give them both great credit for that, but this piece is devoted to watching and reflecting on Hillary, the supposedly less likable one according to America's pundits. Throughout what is an obvious ordeal Hillary has never lost her charm. I know she has had to watch each gesture, more so than any white man certainly, as people read her every move, the cut of her dress, the pitch of her voice, the range of her emotional expression, and her ability to convey strength without appearing cold or unfeminine.

Throughout all of it, Hillary Clinton still talks about the issues, about the wrongs in America and the fixes it will take to right them. And she keeps fighting, applying her quick and subtle intelligence and indomitable work ethic to doing exactly that. And I like her. I honestly like Hillary Clinton for all of that and more. This isn't quite the way the Beatles sang it, but the change will do us good. To Hillary then, with love:

Girl, you're gonna carry that weight, carry that weight a long time.



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I do not (none / 0)

disagree at all. I am sure she is as charming as everyone who knows her says.
I respect her and will vote for her if she is nominated.
I just prefer Obama but they are both strong candidates and  I am glad they are democrats.
by hawkjt on Sun Feb 03, 2008 at 01:57:12 PM EST

Re: I do not (2.00 / 2)

Your feelings compliment my own exactly. I would be proud to support Obama in the General Election if he becomes our nominee


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by Tom Rinaldo on Sun Feb 03, 2008 at 02:02:47 PM EST
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Re: I do not (2.00 / 2)

Tom,

Thank you for a great diary.  I, too, am in awe of Hillary's magnificent strength which comes with her intelligence, competence, and unparalled work ethic.  She is truely one of a kind.

If Hillary was a man, she probably would have been the youngest Americna President.  Who Knows?  Everyone would have acknowledged that the opponents are nice, but she is in a league of her own. Instead, we get the sexist treatment day in and out with "Do we really like her?? I mean, really?" This, after the President with whom everyone wanted to have a bear with ruined the country and its reputation.  You think, the shock would have just, maybe, given a sense of perspective to idiots like Chris Matthews, but no such luck.  A leopard really can't change its colors.

Hillary is one amazing woman.  She is a terrific role model, and I am simply in awe of her.


I have yet to see what [Obama] has done to take the highest office in the land. He is no Martin Luther King. --Helen Thomas
by ghost 2 on Sun Feb 03, 2008 at 06:54:14 PM EST
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Re: "The Beatles" (none / 0)

Thanks, except now I can't get that song out of my head, lol.

It's a pretty good one though, I don't mind so much.


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by Tom Rinaldo on Sun Feb 03, 2008 at 02:22:13 PM EST

This may be why her unfavorables have declined (2.00 / 2)

This is a beautifully written diary and expresses my own feelings very well.

A poster on another site wondered if this media fueled "divisive" image actually helped her in the long run because when people see her they are surprised how much they may admire, or even like, her.

As I've written in another post, buying into the Obama/media branding requires that you refuse believe your own eyes.

Another media branding that fails with repeated exposure is the "I" vs. "We" nature of the respective campaigns.  When I see Clinton campaign appearances, she is going around the audience or sitting around a table taking questions from voters.  He's always giving a speech up on a stage and typically doesn't take questions.  My own eyes tell me which campaign is truly more of a "we" vs. "I" one.


by lombard on Sun Feb 03, 2008 at 02:23:32 PM EST

Re: This may be why her unfavorables have declined (2.00 / 1)

on the media handling of Obama:

http://www.beachwoodreporter.com/politic s/the_trouble_with_obama.php


I have yet to see what [Obama] has done to take the highest office in the land. He is no Martin Luther King. --Helen Thomas
by ghost 2 on Sun Feb 03, 2008 at 06:55:35 PM EST
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Ive know the Mrs. and her Mother for years (2.00 / 1)

they are both nice...."Minnesota nice"


Offend the Media - Vote for Hillary!
by Seymour Glass on Sun Feb 03, 2008 at 03:07:21 PM EST

Re: Ive know the Mrs. and her Mother for years (none / 0)

isn't "Minnesota nice" a euphamism for passive-aggressive?


by the mollusk on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 11:18:09 AM EST
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Re: I Think I Would Really Like Hillary Clinton (2.00 / 2)

Well, it seems she has kept her friendships and those with her go back a long way, which is always an indication of a person people personally like when they get to know them.


by reasonwarrior on Sun Feb 03, 2008 at 06:27:08 PM EST

Re: I Think I Would Really Like Hillary Clinton (none / 0)

from what I hear her staff is very loyal to her also.  I also hear she is hard on them.  What I imagine is that she expects a lot from them, but is fair and interested in their personal lives too.
She commands respect.

ABO... Anybody but Obama. I LIKE the democratic party.

by MollieBradford on Sun Feb 03, 2008 at 06:53:16 PM EST
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Re: I Think I Would Really Like Hillary Clinton If (2.00 / 3)

I appreciate this post because you make a real effort to sense what it must be like to be in Hillary Clinton's shoes. I had an aha moment in that regard recently myself, when I remembered my years married to a popular but controversial elected official at the county level. OUr family and I personally got hate mail, death threats, extensive media hounding due to various public and personal events, reactions to some of his decisions and actions (he was a district attorney), etc. It was hard on our marriage, (and contributed to our eventual divorce). As a strong-willed, career-oriented woman, I struggled to hold on to my own identity, to protect my children from it, and to find where was my place in it all.

Remembering my own experience, I have compassion for Hillary and great admiration for how she has handled what was a much, much tougher, bigger and longer version of what I went through. She has my support ... and my gratitude, for being willing to do the hard work of blazing this trail for the women presidents whom we hope our country will elect in decades to come.


by ShantiRasa on Sun Feb 03, 2008 at 06:31:15 PM EST

yes she is very likable and (2.00 / 1)

someone worth admiring too.  The right wing meme that she is divisive and unlikable has infected even democrats unfortunately.  


ABO... Anybody but Obama. I LIKE the democratic party.

by MollieBradford on Sun Feb 03, 2008 at 06:49:47 PM EST

Re: yes she is very likable and (none / 0)

I don't think it's infected the Democrats so much as there a lot of Democrats who understand what a unifying force she is for conservatives.  It's not necessarily fair, but it is very real.


by the mollusk on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 11:19:15 AM EST
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Beautiful diary. (none / 0)


formerly bookgirl
by masslib1 on Sun Feb 03, 2008 at 06:52:40 PM EST

She gives me hope (2.00 / 3)

Every times I look at Hillary, she gives me hope that I too can face the adversity at my office like she does.

Compared to hers, my problem is miniscule.  But like many women that face the same problem at works, I have to work harder than men colleague to gain half the respect.  My team comprise of 5 people, and am the only woman.  It's just very difficult role to play. If I am firm, then I'm aggressive. If I'm soft, then I'm weak.  But for a men colleague, he's firm cause he's leader.  he's soft cause he's kind, a nice guy.  You can't deny that it doesn't exist.  Young women will not realize this yet because they are still junior position.  Once they get to the management level, they will feel the different treatment.

I see her stands up with grace and dignity in a very hostile environment, and I'm proud as a woman.  Her action inspires me, and gives me hope that I can do that too.

If she win this election, it will prove to me that substance matter over style.  And people will recognise what you do, how you talk.  And that woman have a chance to be treated fairly in the new society.


by JoeySky18 on Sun Feb 03, 2008 at 07:31:42 PM EST

I'm proud of her as a man (none / 0)

I think she is more of a woman AND more of a man than her competition.


by lombard on Sun Feb 03, 2008 at 09:06:59 PM EST
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Re: I Think I Would Really Like Hillary Clinton (none / 0)

Beautiful diary, Tom Rinaldo.

What is continuously baffling to me is how so many the progressive blogs don't seem to see that the Republics and Corpress are once again setting us up for a loss.

How can the same people who have been fighting Corpress and the radical regressives for so long, now think they are being genuine in their praise and support of a Democrat? Fool me once and all that thrown out the window because those same slimeballs now seem to have seen the light and all thanks to the wondrous rhetoric of Senator Obama.

Spare me. I see through their crap and we can rest assured if Obama wins the nomination, their ugly, dark hearts will show who's side they're still on. Unfortunately for both those who are willing to buy the crap, as well as those of us who see what's coming, it'll be too late.

I can only hope there are enough people who remember who our enemy is, and don't fall for it. Again.


by jen on Sun Feb 03, 2008 at 10:22:39 PM EST

It's Not A Popularity Contest (none / 0)

I'd like her too.  I met her once.  She is smart and charming.I think she is great.  I just support Baack Obama for President.  Nobody is entitled to be President.  It's not a popularity contest, it's a question of vision & leadership.  


by howardpark on Sun Feb 03, 2008 at 10:34:04 PM EST

Re: It's Not A Popularity Contest (2.00 / 2)

I would never suggest that anyone is entitled to be President, and I don't accept that Hillary ever thought that either. Best qualified?  Most likely she does think that. It takes an ego to run for President.

Of course this isn't a popularity contest but the subject of how unlikable Hillary Clinton is sure has gotten a lot of press given that it isn't. The quality of grace under fire, of inner strength, of being able to work through your pain, and to seek common ground with your adversaries when that is for the good of the country, those I think are relevent character traits for a leader to have.


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by Tom Rinaldo on Sun Feb 03, 2008 at 10:50:21 PM EST
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Re: It's Not A Popularity Contest (none / 0)

Leadership is most important when things are tough.  And you wouldn't believe someone put down on their resume that they have good leadership skill.  You will ask for proof.  What did they do to achieve result in a difficult situation?


by JoeySky18 on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 12:25:56 AM EST
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Re: I Think I Would Really Like Hillary Clinton If (none / 0)

Wonderful diary, Tom. Particularly when there isn't very much positive about Hillary online. I've actually had to stop going to a lot of leftie blogs because they seem to delight in using the same misogynistic talking points as the MSM, and with no more proof of anything they say. It's very depressing to me that the net roots is getting just as ugly as the MSM. Which is why your diary is a special treat.


by CognitiveDissonance on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 02:44:45 AM EST

This isn't picking brown shoes or blonde shoes (none / 0)

Vision and leadership?

What leadership? What visions have been played out to you the customer, on how they'd be drawn up, approved by a mixed congress,implemented, and what are the working blue prints to show they'd be functional?

This is sad, and scary imo.

Experience seems to mean nothing. Especially when we are not talking about someone with the capabilities of running your local Burger King, but someone with the capabilities of running the biggest most powerful nation in the world. A nation that many nations and billions of people rely on. In a time of turmoil all over the world.

I am just stunned at the amount of "I just prefer Obama" out there.  Do people seriously not research anything about Obama but just believe in what he says and has on his promotional sites?  Do people really believe that just because someone has great oration, great charisma, and knows how to use the word "change" that that's seriously all it takes to be president of the United States?  Do people not see, not think, not absorb how they are being manipulated by the MSM 24/7 to unconsciously adore Obama while using their words, their tone, their facial expressions to show disdain for Hillary that can only rub off on the viewer?

I feel like we are reliving 2000 all over again.  A guy we like just cuz we like him, so my vote goes to him!  Who cares he's only been in Washington for 1 yr. Who cares if he lies (and he has lied) about his healthcare plan and other issues that (now even the NY Times is calling him out on).. who cares if he shows no substance on the campaign trail.  He says, "change".. I don't need to know how he's going to do it or the details of how it's going to be workable!  I just like hearing him preach "change" and it inspires me so he's got my vote!

I'm flabbergasted at what I'm witnessing. It's kinda like the same with Bush for me.  The people voted for him and they got 9/11, mine workers killed due to lax regulation, national parks have suffered, kids died from ecoli thanks to less FDA funds, pollution, world wide hate of the USA, 100's of thousands of dead Iraqis, a billion Muslims who hate us and want us dead.. but hey.. he's a great guy to have a beer with so we still like the guy.

I feel like I'm reliving this in a scene, like sitting on the side lines and seeing it all over again with the other group of people now that were complaining about the sheep on the right.. only now they are mimicking the same behavior... it's just phenomenal to watch.

99.9999% of Obama worshipers have no clue who/what Rezko or Exelon are. Have no clue the connection to Obama. They have no clue who Ted Lamont is or how Obama helped his opponent, Joe Lieberman, get reelected against Lamont. They don't know how many votes he's missed in the Senate, or what those votes were. They don't know how many votes he chose to answer "present" on (instead of yes or no) and why that matters, nor his work with lobbyists that helped them get breaks worth $12 billion.  

There's so so much more that no one seems to care about because he's their god now.. and he says "change" real swell , in a godly like way. So substance and resumes (that check out) don't matter.

I'm flabbergasted


by liberalicious on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 05:00:06 AM EST

Re: I Think I Would Really Like Hillary Clinton (none / 0)

Not only that, her proposals are more progressive than Obama's.  In fact, he's a conservative.

We Illinois progressives sent Obama to the U.S. Senate, where he promptly joined the Joe Lieberman wing of the Democratic Party.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/02/01 national-journal-rates-obama-1-liberal- senator

His economic advisers are very conservative, from the University of Chicago-Milton Friedman school of economics.
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20080211/fr aser

My favorite economist, Paul Krugman, caught Obama using right-wing talking points on what to do about Social Security
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/16/opinio n/16krugman.html

and about his health care plan.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/30/opinio n/30krugman.html

And his chief political adviser is a Daley machine strategist.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/01/magazi ne/01axelrod.t.html

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com


by Caro on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 05:31:20 AM EST

Re: I Think I Would Really Like Hillary Clinton (none / 0)

There is certainly some evidence out there that Barack Obama may be centrist, but this seems to be easily refuted by pointing out the numerous liberal heavies that have endorsed him.  I have a hard time pushing all of that aside and just thinking that Barack Obama is a conservative.

Plus, the fundamental Progressiveness of the Obama campaign stems from its ability to get young voters interested, and yes believing, in the Democratic party.  Once these kind of people are in the camp, we could face a very long period in which they are the voters and the volunteers forming the backbone of the Democratic party.

A population interested and believing in the government's ability to run well and do good things is a fundamentally Progressive population.  Conservatism, at its core, relies upon apathy or downright malice for the government.


by the mollusk on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 11:26:34 AM EST
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Re: I Think I Would Really Like Hillary Clinton (none / 0)

So you don't believe your lyin' eyes?

Carolyn Kay
MakeThemAccountable.com


by Caro on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 12:45:03 PM EST
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Re: I Think I Would Really Like Hillary Clinton (none / 0)

The mollusk sayeth:

"There is certainly some evidence out there that Barack Obama may be centrist, but this seems to be easily refuted by pointing out the numerous liberal heavies that have endorsed him."

Caro responeth:
"So you don't believe your lyin' eyes?"

Color me badd, wait, no, confused.


by the mollusk on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 12:49:16 PM EST
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Have heard that she is well liked personally (none / 0)

But I'm voting for a president, not a friend. ;-)


Sean Robertson
by Sean Robertson on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 01:03:14 PM EST

I guess that would depend (none / 0)

on which Hillary you encountered when you met her.

She is the woman of 1000 faces.

Waaaaaaaaah


by DoubleDs on Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 01:26:48 PM EST


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