There is still a scandal here though. Who put this story out and why.

Looks like they'll do anything to win.

...even though they can't win anymore.

update her story?

I expect SusanHu will promptly be removing her diary.  

Is there any public source for this denial other than Politico? It has not been made public in Canada yet or anywhere else that I can see.

Also, here is Tristan's actual title, he does not represent the Embassy or the Ambassador.

Tristan E. Landry, Consul and Head of Public Affairs, Consulate General of Canada in San Francisco

The Clinton campaign in Ohio is spreading this story, even though the Canadian ambassador is flatly stating that the conversation never took place.

Where would people get the crazy idea that the Clinton campaign had something to do with that Drudge photo....?

where was all of this faux outrage when the obama camp and his supporters believed drudge with no evidence on the picture thing.

hypocrisy is nice to watch.

If there has been no contact then why did Bill Burton say they were reaching out to the Canadian Embassy to correct any misconceptions? Sounds fishy now?

The other Embassy spokeman who has spoken about this said contact happens all the time.

So which is it? Was contact made or not? where did CTV get the story? They still stand by it. Where did it come from? Is Michael Wilson going to speak?

And yes, where was all this outrage and stammering for truth during the Drudge debacle this week? You are only concerned about "truth" when it is your guy getting pegged?

According to a call placed to CTV just a few minutes ago...by someone on another blog and then I myself called them...

I was told, "they are sticking by their story." The may look into advancing the story this afternoon due to the large amount of interest in the U.S.

Um, did I suggest anywhere that the Clinton campaign made this up?

Now the Obama camp is "bullying" Canada?

I swear, I must be at freerepublic...

Is reading MyDD so he can find out what the "last throes" REALLY look like :-)

Another second at MyDD, another unhinged comment.  Highly entertaining!

It is now coming out that the Canadian's are denying the call took place.

BIG QUESTION

What the heck is going on here?

That's what we should be asking instead of tearing into each other.

Who sourced the CTV story?

Where did it come from?

Look people, this is a big deal. Someone is putting out false stories the effect of which is to get the Democrats at each other's throats, and I smell a rat.

My completely unfounded speculation is that some kind of swiftboating may be going on. First the Drudge piece and now this.

Rather than oblige whoever is doing this by cutting each other up into little ribbons, perhaps we should ask:

Who the heck is doing this?

Where did this story come from?

If only you could wish the truth away, JoanH.

lol

... for them most preposterous thing said here in a while. Which is no mean feat.

So the Canadian ambassador to the U.S. and his various spokespeople are liars.

Okay.

As for "Clinton hate"...

This is Clinton hate?

Wow.  This diary and the comments from the Obama supporters are truly disgusting.  I know, I know, some of the Clinton supporters are over the top, so it's okay for you to be just as offensive.  But actually it's not okay.

The story has been reported throughout the Canadian media, no matter how much people want to dismiss it as nothing more than a hit diary that susanhu was paid to write (a ridiculous comment that actually got uprated upthread... yes, I know, Clinton supporters have no regard for the truth, so it's okay if you have no regard for it either.  But actually it's not okay.)

Is the spokesman's denial the end of the story, or is it simply an "official denial" made for diplomatic reasons?  Apparently only the slimiest anti-American Obama-haters are interested in considering the second possibility... but I'm here to tell you, if you weren't partisans looking for any reason to dismiss an allegation against your candidate out of hand, you'd realize that it's a possibility.

If the call happened, it obviously would have been a confidential communication not intended for public consumption.  If it happened, I would expect the Canadian ambassador to appreciate the frank assurance.  I certainly wouldn't expect him to turn right around and backstab the man who very well might be the next President of the United States by confirming to the media that the call happened.  So in all honesty, if you believe this "official denial" from a spokesman conclusively puts the story to rest, you're being a little too credulous.

And these people call us 'cultists.'

I predict a lot of these userhandles will appear at Redstate on March 6th.

All the smears Hillary and co. are throwing at him are only making him a stronger general election candidate.  Right now, this guy is Teflon.

Its the same groupthink we run into in any online forum with like-minded supporters.  I saw it with Dean supporters four years ago, we see it now (regrettably, for some in both camps).

HRC supporters here will disbelieve anything that runs critical to their narrative, irrespective of who denies it and when.  The truth is irrelevant if it runs counter to a narrative, for some.  For example, there's some on this forum who somehow think that a number of states somehow seceded from the Union because they voted for Obama (caucus states don't count, Illinois doesn't count, any state with an AA population doesn't count, etc., etc...).

Some will quote anything -- see Susan's admiring quote of Debbie Schossel yesterday.

Its like Bush supporters extolling the amount of schools opened in Iraq, or the electricity metric in Baghdad, in 2003-4.  Facts don't matter and their candidate's bad campaign doesn't matter -- all that matters is what they want to believe.  

It has nothing to do with reality and probably ends in roughly five days.

And they don't represent anyone -- the vast majority of HRC supporters, based on the exit polls, will support Obama in the fall.

Disclaimer:  I know some Obama supporters on the "Orange Satan" engage in the same behavior.  I have an account here, not there, because I like to be surrounded by people who don't always agree with me.

I thought this smelled fishy. Why the hell would an Obama aide make a call like that? The internal reasoning would have to be unbelievably tortured--as though we're expected to believe they're having emergency meetings at the Obama campaign about alarming Canada, and are so insanely concerned about it that they would call an ambassador and tell them, "Don't worry, we're liars."

I knew this one would come up phony.

CTV has not correct the story. Politico.com and TPM are the two sources we have rejecting the original story. Why would I believe internet political gossip sites more than CTV?

Obama staffer gave warning of NAFTA rhetoric

Within the last month, a top staff member for Obama's campaign telephoned Michael Wilson, Canada's ambassador to the United States, and warned him that Obama would speak out against NAFTA, according to Canadian sources.

The staff member reassured Wilson that the criticisms would only be campaign rhetoric, and should not be taken at face value. ... .

Unfortunately, CTV stands by their story:

"The facts of our story are accurate." - Greg McIsaac, Communications Manager, News Information and Current Affairs, CTV

http://www.taylormarsh.com/

And, curiously enough, or not, the Canadian embassy certainly admits that they DO TALK TO THE CAMPAIGNS on a regular basis:

"It didn't happen," said Roy Norton, who heads up the congressional, public and intergovernmental affairs portfolio for the Canadian embassy.

But, we do talk to them about NAFTA and jobs and trade "all the time," says Norton:

The Canadian embassy is proactively reaching out to the campaigns "all the time," Norton said, to try to meet with aides who might form the foreign and economic policy teams of any future administration.

"We talk about the whole range of Canada-U.S. issues which we think it's critically important that the presidential candidates be aware of including the number of jobs that depend in the United States on Canada-U.S. trade."

The Canadian Embassy says there are more than seven million jobs in the U.S. that depend on trade with Canada.

"We discuss our view that NAFTA has been very good for all three participating countries and has made the continent more competitive in the face of China, India, Brazil," Norton said.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/ 2008/02/canadian-embass.html

You get the feeling that most Canadians don't follow this issue as closely as some of us have today?

CTV has just confirmed their story--3:15 pm

"The facts of our story are accurate." - Greg McIsaac, Communications Manager, News Information and Current Affairs, CTV"

I find it interesting that CTV is not a reliable source whereas Drudge is.  mmmmkay.

a simple Google News search turns up:

http://www.crosswalk.com/news/11569532/
'"I can categorically say that no one has contacted our embassy or our ambassador," said Canadian Foreign Ministry spokesman Andre Lemay. "None of our officials at the embassy discussed anything with the runners up in the presidential campaign. We realize that one of the Canadian networks mentioned yesterday that such a call had been made. The report is untrue."'

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/p olitics/5579211.html
"Roy Norton, a minister at the Canadian embassy, told The Associated Press in a telephone interview that Wilson and other embassy officials have expressed their support for NAFTA and their positions on other issues to officials from the three leading presidential campaigns -- Obama, Clinton and likely Republican nominee John McCain.

But he said at no time has anyone from the Obama campaign told anyone at the embassy that his position on NAFTA is just for show. "It didn't happen," Horton said."

this LIE is an empty story, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing but BS.

Direct from the Canadian Embassy itself:

http://geo.international.gc.ca/can-am/wa shington/menu-en.asp?lang_update=1

"Washington, D.C., February 28, 2008 -- The Canadian Embassy confirms that at no time has any member of a Presidential campaign called the Canadian Ambassador or any official at the Embassy to discuss NAFTA. Last night the Canadian television network, CTV, falsely reported that such calls had been made. That story is untrue. Neither before nor since the Ohio debate has any Presidential campaign called Ambassador Wilson or the Embassy to raise NAFTA."

this story has been exposed for what it is: an outright lie.

CTV has not presented any proof backing the story aside from their own assertions that "they stand by their story".  ridiculous.

if you're going to attack your opponent, at LEAST use something that's actually true.

Stunned..shocked and floored I tell you
Stunned shocked and floored..................

Ya know each day I feed the fish in our aquarium.
There is always a frenzy..
Then the go back to their docile selves...

I wish Jerome, Johnathan and Todd would deal with this. It makes this sight a chore to read sometimes.

Heh.

Now you're accusing me of having sock puppets?

Gee, hunter...

The Obama censorship machine is alive and well, and working on the internet.

Huh.  Imagine that.

Well, there's still Rezko, right?

The Obama camp said the story is 'not accurate.' So who did they talk to?

Something smells fishy.

Link

Obama also delivers a forceful response to Canadian news reports that his NAFTA bashing is nothing but political rhetoric.

Breaking: More On The CTV Obama NAFTA Story

Looks like CTV has no problem startng to name names. I expect if the denials continue there may be more.

This is very interesting and deserves more investigation by the american media. If we have any real journalists left.

- that you updated the story again with the additional information that's come out from CTV, even though it was not favorable for your candidate.  

Good show.