John McCain's Friends

McCain is fond of calling us all his friends and, as he revealed at his press conference on Thursday, he is also fond of telling us just how many friends he has in Washington.

I have many friends in Washington who represent various interests and those who don't and I consider her a friend...I have many friends who represent various interests ranging from the firemen, to the police to senior citizens to various interests particularly before my committee and I had meetings with hundreds of them and that was my job to do to get their input. Obviously, people who represent interests are fine, that's their constitutional right, the question is do they have access or unwarranted influence and certainly no one ever has in the conduct of my public life and my legislative agenda.

As Chris Cillizza notes, this is not exactly a winning line of defense for McCain.

While that argument may be technically correct, it's a political loser -- especially in a change-oriented election like this one. Obama's political rise has been fueled, at least in part, by his denunciation of the pay-to-play culture in Washington and his promise to clean up Washington if elected president.

McCain, too, has railed against special interests throughout his political life. But, by trying to defuse the Iseman questions, the Arizona senator may well have created a long-term problem for himself.

Part of the problem for McCain is the more he talks about all these friends he has and insists they are perfectly legitimate friends representing interests not of the special variety, the more digging people are likely to do into who exactly these friends are. We've already seen WaPo's piece revealing McCain's campaign is teeming with lobbyists; Joe Conason, Christy Hardin Smith and Marcy Wheeler are on it as well, as is Brave New Films, which has done what they do best over at The Real McCain:

The real problem that this continued focus on McCain's "friends" poses for McCain is the extent to which it links him with Bush. As Marcy said:

We already know what happens when lobbyists take over the Oval Office. If John McCain is elected, along with his buddies Charlie Black, Rick Davis, and Vicki Iseman, you can expect more of the same.



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We need to start airing commercials now.  Due to the fluffing McCain regularly gets, we need to start early to let low info voters know that McCain isn't what he is cracked up to be.


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by Calvin Jones and the 13th Apostle on Sat Feb 23, 2008 at 05:04:49 PM EST

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What I found fascinating about the pundit's on Cable News and the MSM responses to the NYT article, was their immediate condemnation of the entire story.  IMO we must examine the merits of the case.  We must address all relationships McCain has had with lobbyist.  The NYT article was an opening; if we don't capitalize on it, his relationships with his "friends" will not fully be revealed.


by nzubechukwu on Sat Feb 23, 2008 at 05:06:13 PM EST

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Even if the NYT article is dismissed, it may act as a reference point for fruitful inquiries.


by rfahey22 on Sat Feb 23, 2008 at 05:21:18 PM EST

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I highly doubt that anyone is "immune" from any story at this point.  To the extent that people choose to perceive it as a sex story, that simply means that it has not "immunized" him against stories about his lobbyist connections.  Either you're blowing this out of proportion or you simply hope that this avenue of inquiry is abandoned.  Your posts make me suspect the latter.


by rfahey22 on Sat Feb 23, 2008 at 05:34:38 PM EST
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Oh, really?  This article is among those headlining the Fox News website right now: "Key Figure Disputes 1999 McCain Meeting."

http://youdecide08.foxnews.com/2008/02/2 3/report-mccains-recollection-of-1999-me etings-disputed-by-key-figure/

You see, when someone holds a press conference and makes misleading statements in order to refute a supposedly bogus story, that once again raises all of the questions supposedly settled, despite your law school argument to the contrary.  I guess they didn't take Evidence.

By the way, I am curious about your perspective on this argument.  Did you not, in another thread, state, "Looking good for McCain. He has 8 months to expose the rookie"?  Who will you be backing in November?

 


by rfahey22 on Sat Feb 23, 2008 at 06:04:50 PM EST
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Way to avoid the issue.


by rfahey22 on Sat Feb 23, 2008 at 10:26:07 PM EST
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The fact that outlets such as Fox News continue to deal with this issue, and the fallout surrounding McCain's press conference, proves that he is not "immunized" on this issue.  Cherry-picking articles that support your position (and McCain's, incidentally) does not establish your point.  Nor does ignoring the article that I cited above.

Again, who are you supporting in November?  You do seem awfully anxious to come to McCain's defense.


by rfahey22 on Sat Feb 23, 2008 at 11:49:03 PM EST
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Fox News says otherwise.  God forbid I use that as a source, but if they are still discussing it, and more importantly McCain's flubbed cover-up, it really makes no difference what the Times does (as I type this, that article is still third from the top of Fox's web page).  Newsweek and the Washington Post have weighed in and may have more to say in the future.  To say McCain has been immunized from all charges of corruption because of one article, in February no less, is simply naive.


by rfahey22 on Sun Feb 24, 2008 at 12:17:45 AM EST
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The idea that someone won't vote for McCain because Charlie Black works for him is preposterous.  Without some sex or criminality the MSM isn't even going to get on board.  And isn't super lobbyist Tom Daschle Obama's political godfather?  The Republican Attack Machine gets to talk, too.


by Upstate Dem on Sat Feb 23, 2008 at 05:21:21 PM EST

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Let them speak for themselves.


by rfahey22 on Sat Feb 23, 2008 at 05:26:31 PM EST
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I'm posting this comments under this thread because I'm starting to wonder if we are becoming McCain's very very best friends.  

The vitriol in many of the posts and diaries leads me to believe that the purpose of people here is more to destroy than build and I am really sick of it.  You are giving the GOP all the ammunition they need to defeat us.  I stopped going to Kos because of it but this site has become just as bad.  

Unlike the Republicans who seem to know how to get it togethe as a party when crunch time comes, we seem to think more of our own agendas then the  public good.

Read some of the diaries.  Instead of thoughtful pieces on helping one's candidate they have gotten ugly.  I can't imagine but that the GOP will find all of this an exceedingly fruitful field to mine for November.

I'm just tired of it.  It's selfish, it's meanspirited, and if it was okay at the very beginning of the season, now that we are almost there let the people decide, and maybe we can start persuasion for our candidate rather than this total annihilation of the other guy thing.


by mady on Sat Feb 23, 2008 at 05:34:01 PM EST

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Hillary should go on TV and shout "Shame on You, John McCain, etc. etc." That'll show him.

Since Hillary became Senator, 9/11 happened in her state, Osama got away, we've had two recessions, we've had millions suffer without health care, some dying due to it. Houses lost, dreams shattered, war keeps killing our soldiers and draining our resources. America is mortgaged...

...now I watch Capital Hill very closely. I have never seen Hillary that mad over, say, warrentless wiretapping, or S-CHIP, or Iraq funding, or Katrina failures, or the US Attorney scandal or any of the things she supposedly would like to drive us from.

But two months-old glossy mailers as a cry for outrage? Meanwhile McCain's got status-quo lobbying from his bus? This looks SO BAD and is so unhelpful that someone really needs to remind her that even if Obama loses in 2008, it's not like she's a sure thing in 2012. She was the sure thing this time, and let it go through a mix of cockiness and failure of imagination. That's what happens.

But when I read about McCain's exploits, it reminds me that Bush leaving office is a distinction without a difference if we don't get a Democrat in there. Hillary during the debate was, for the most part, civil and thoughtful -- I never wanted her to be president more.

But today, gosh, I don't want her near that office again. She just doesn't get what this sort of thing does -- to her and the party. That lack of self-reflection makes me think she really is unable to grasp what's at stake if McCain wins...

DEMOCRATS IN 08...


Fight the Smears!
by Lettuce on Sat Feb 23, 2008 at 06:50:26 PM EST

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Why are Democrats so afraid of McCain? He is literally Sen.Rip Van Winkle. John McCain is just using a Bob Dole campaign theme, and the chances of him winning by Nov, will be none. Not to mention that he supports all of Bush's policies. You could probably make a ad with McCain and Bush policies and then the Dem candidates positions on those very same issues. There is no chance he will win.  


by bsavage on Sun Feb 24, 2008 at 01:16:26 AM EST

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Um, Hillary's down even more in Oregon, or is there some other canidte you support over Obama?


by Socraticsilence on Sun Feb 24, 2008 at 06:36:53 PM EST
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