Florida Selects Delegates for the Convention

Florida Democratic State Chair Karen Thurman meant it when she said it:


"There will be no other primary. Florida Democrats absolutely must vote on January 29th... The nation will be paying attention, and Florida Democrats will have a major impact in determining who the next President of the United States of America will be."

She reiterated this on 12/5/07:


"Accordingly, the Florida Democratic Party will respect the voters' choice on January 29th in determining the allocation of our delegates to the 2008 Democratic National Convention. We are confident that the Democratic Presidential nominee will seat Florida's delegation at the Convention."

And now she's doing it. Florida is selecting delegates for the 2008 Democratic Convention. Follow me...

Florida Democrats meet on March 1 (a week from Saturday) to select delegates, based on the vote in each of the 25 Congressional districts. Here is a copy of the number of delegates for each candidate each congressional district gets. Note also that these are also apportioned by gender- Florida will be sending 60 men and 61 women to Denver from the district-level delegate pool. The March 1 meeting, one in each Congressional district, is called a "caucus", but the only competition is between different proposed delegates for the same presidential candidate. In other words, you show up, say which presidential candidate you support, vote for the candidates pledged to that candidate, and leave. The primary vote determines how many delegates each presidential candidate gets. Here are the rules:


The selection of district-level delegates will be in 25 post-primary district-level caucuses around the state on March 1, 2008. The highest vote-getters slotted under each presidential candidate are elected. (The numbers each presidential candidate gets in each district is dependent on the Presidential Primary results in that district.) In order to participate as a voter in the caucus, a voter must establish that he or she is a registered Democrat within the Caucus' Congressional District.  Voters must present a voter registration card and photo I.D. The voter will then be required to fill out a statement of support for the presidential candidate whom he or she supports.  Delegates and alternates will be elected only by those participants at the caucus who have declared support for the same candidate to whom the delegate or alternates are pledged. Each participating voter must vote for exactly the number of delegate candidates to which the presidential candidate is entitled.

In addition to the 121 district-level delegates, there are 40 pledged delegates at large and 24 pledged Party Leader and Elected Official (PLEOs), all 64 of whom must pledge a candidate preference (or pledge uncommitted). These 64 at-large delegates and PLEOs are selected by the Florida Democratic Party State Executive Committee on April 5 for PLEOs and May 17 for delegates at large.  PLEOs aren't bigwigs, they're mediumwigs at best. They're described as:


...big city mayors and state-wide elected officials (to be given equal consideration); state legislative leaders, state legislators, and other state, county and local elected officials and party leaders.

So the pledged delegates will shake out as follows: at the district level, it's 67 for Hillary, 13 for Edwards, and 41 for Obama, plus an equivalent proportion of the 64 at-large and PLEOs, which would be another 35 for Hillary, 7 for Edwards, and 22 for Obama. The pledged delegate totals are 102 for Hillary, 20 for Edwards, and 63 for Obama.

Also in addition to the 185 total pledged delegates, there are also three unpledged add-on delegates, and 22 automatic delegates (superdelegates).

And we'll be ready to go to Denver.



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Re: Florida Selects Delegates for the Convention (2.00 / 4)

So seat them now


by JoeySky18 on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 10:04:02 PM EST

Re: Florida Selects Delegates for the Convention (2.00 / 3)

yeah, i don't want to get stuck in FL in august. it's the fourth month of summer, with two more months still to go.


by campskunk on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 10:08:06 PM EST
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So are you a delegate, campskunk? (2.00 / 1)

Congrats! I'll be glad to see you in Denver! :-)


Want to defend marriage equality in Maine? Ask me how!
by atdleft on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 10:20:01 PM EST
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Re: So are you a delegate, campskunk? (2.00 / 2)

no, i'm a political groupie. and i head for altitude every year in late summer, to preserve my sanity.


by campskunk on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 10:27:49 PM EST
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Well, so am I... (2.00 / 0)

So does this mean we got ourselves a date with destiny in Denver? ;-)


Want to defend marriage equality in Maine? Ask me how!
by atdleft on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 10:38:25 PM EST
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Re: Well, so am I... (2.00 / 1)

the last convention i went to was the 1972 republican convention in miami. they barricaded themselves out on the island, and it was a heavy police state scene. i was hanging with the vietnam veterans against the war, whom john mitchell's justice department had a hard-on for.

i don't have my slingshot anymore- gave it to my nephew.


by campskunk on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 10:44:41 PM EST
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Re: David v. Goliath (2.00 / 1)

For you, camp, a slingshot is a dangerous weapon!  :-)


I'm United Methodist. I already have a Messiah.
by KnowVox on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 11:08:28 PM EST
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Re: Florida Selects Delegates for the Convention (2.00 / 4)

obama hasn't realized yet that theere's a real election after the primaries. practically all these tactical moves he's making to win the nomination are gonna bite him in the ass if he gets the nomination. if he does get the nomination, it'll be practically worthless by then, like humphrey in 1968.


by campskunk on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 10:12:34 PM EST

But he needs to... (2.00 / 3)

Because once the primary's over, we'll need to win Michigan & Florida in November! Jeez, when will Obama's folks start thinking more long-term?


Want to defend marriage equality in Maine? Ask me how!
by atdleft on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 10:21:30 PM EST
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Re: Florida Selects Delegates for the Convention (1.80 / 5)

He doesn't have to work for your vote, my vote or Florida's vote.

You will naturally gravitate to him in due course.  Got it???

I don't.


by Si Ella Puede on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 10:23:45 PM EST
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Re: Florida Selects Delegates for the Convention (2.00 / 3)

oh, if he gets the nomination i'll vote for him. as a matter of fact, i will crawl over broken glass to vote for obama if he's the nominee.

that will give me four years of i-told-you-so bragging rights, no matter who wins the general. i'll spend all my time over on dKos telling all of them what dumbasses they are, whether it's mccain starting more wars, or obama stepping on his dick and betraying his non-existent progressive principles. they love to whine- i'll just be the facilitator.


by campskunk on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 10:32:54 PM EST
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Agreed. (2.00 / 2)

If Obama's the nominee, I'll support him in the fall. End of story.

But until then, I'll keep asking the hard questions. What's the "hope"? What's the "change"? What's his commitment to the Democratic values that people like Hillary have fought like hell for in her whole lifetime?

I hope for his sake, Obama answers these questions and does it well.


Want to defend marriage equality in Maine? Ask me how!
by atdleft on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 10:41:23 PM EST
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Re: A bit radical but so am I (2.00 / 2)

can't do that. as a party official, if you don't support the democratic candidates for all offices, you're outta there. there's a link to a "loyalty pledge" you have to sign to be a delegate.

now the rank-and-file florida voters... that's another matter.


by campskunk on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 10:34:38 PM EST

Re: Florida Selects Delegates for the Convention (none / 0)

"Obama cannot win the Pres. without Fl"
Are you so sure?

In general election polling so far, Obama wins old Kerry 'swing' states such as Oregon, Washington, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and NH by wide margins. He also leads in Nevada, Colorado, Iowa, and Virginia.

That wins him the presidency easily.


John McCain
by MILiberal on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 11:19:03 PM EST

Re: A bit radical but so am I (2.00 / 0)

They would never do this.

Heck the FDP hosted a fundraiser for the DNC with Dean last fall here in Florida. The party, candidates, politicians were all not going to be harmed by any punishment of Florida. It's really just about disenfranchising the people because they think people will take it and still vote Dem. At least that is how I see it, but I'm bitter. :D


If Dems take away my primary vote, they don't deserve my general vote.
by Step Beyond on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 11:19:40 PM EST

write-in Hillary? Iron this, DNC! (none / 0)

I'm beginning to wonder if the best thing for the Dem party would be to wake up the DNC by electing McCain. This DNC has lost us almost every election in 60 years! Four more years of GOP would hurt, but it would leave Hillary free to run again in 2012 (if Obama got in,she'd be too nice to run against him).

Somone was thinking of a website (and petition?) to show just how many of us would rather write-in Hillary than support Obama. This may be the time to say so, while the superdelegates (and DNC?) still have time to do the right thing and back HIllary.


by 1950democrat on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 08:10:07 AM EST


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