Tonight Shaping Up To Be A Big Night For Obama?

Looking for some signs of what to expect out of the results tonight, the results are somewhat mixed.

Some early exit polls in from Mike Allen, per Ben Smith are certainly signalling a huge night for Obama:

Democratic officials with access to exit polls say Sen. Obama looks like he's headed for a huge win in today's Wisconsin primary. The polls could turn out to be off, as they have in the past. But the officials' revelation reflects the chatter in the campaigns in advance of the 9 p.m. Eastern poll closing.

The party officials said that if the trends reflect in the interviews with hundreds of Badger State voters, the news out of the primary will be: Obama encroached deeply into three of Clinton's core groups of voters -- women, those with no college degree and those with lower incomes -- while giving up none of his own. However, Clinton looked to be winning senior citizens, the officials said.

Now, the exit polls have tended to inflate Obama's real voter support in the past, but Allen's take on the numbers certainly sounds unambiguous.

This news doesn't exactly square with some reports of lower than expected turnout in Wisconsin today, which, if true, would likely hurt Obama rather than Clinton, especially in the college town of Madison.

From Madison, WI's Capital Times:

The city of Middleton has two polling places, with roughly an equal number of residents eligible to vote in each: St. Bernard's Parish Center and the high school.

When I voted at 3 p.m. at the school, I was No. 1,759. The polling place was not all that busy, but a poll worker said it had been fairly steady.

Patricia Amble, city clerk-treasurer, said at 3:45 that she thought the turnout so far was "less than expected."

As of 4pm local time, 2,000 people had voted; for their precinct to reach 38%, as they originally expected, they'll need to reach 5,000 voters by the time the polls close at 8pm (9pm EST.)

One major reason for the lower turnout does seem to be the weather.

Frigid temperatures and slick roads are keeping voters at home so far this primary election day.

Just before noon, Early reports from polling places across Dane County show only about a 10 percent turnout, according to the county clerk's office.

Up to 35 percent of the state's eligible voters had been predicted to turn out statewide, mainly because of the close Democratic primary race between Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton.

But one aspect of Wisconsin voting that appears to greatly favor Obama is the same day registration, and if one polling place in Madison is any indication, voters are taking advantage of it.

One of the heaviest polling places for voter turnout this afternoon was the Heritage Congregational Church on Madison's southwest side, where election officials estimated more than 800 ballots had been cast by 2:30 p.m.

A steady stream of new voters filled out registration forms as already registered voters waited for ballots.

An informal survey of voters leaving the polling place showed overwhelming support for Barack Obama.

We'll know pretty quickly tonight, probably just after polls close at 9pm EST, if it's going to be another rough night for Hillary Clinton or not. If it's a clear win for Obama, it will likely be called for him right away; if they can't quite call it, that's good news for Clinton. Just going by a completely unscientific and observational criterion, if Howard Wolfson's confidence level in an interview on MSNBC is any indication at all of what the campaigns are seeing on the ground, I'd bet we have a call for Obama at 9:01pm.



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Re: Tonight Shaping Up To Be A Big Night For Obama (none / 0)

   Good news for Clinton has now been reduced to not being demolished by Obama.


Jim Oberweis
by cilerder86 on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:15:36 PM EST

Re: Tonight Shaping Up To Be A Big Night For Obama (none / 0)

funny where life will take you sometimes!


by affratboy22 on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:16:31 PM EST
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Re: Tonight Shaping Up To Be A Big Night For Obama (none / 0)

Seriously, talk about the soft bigotry of low expectations.  


by Adam B on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:30:19 PM EST
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Re: Tonight Shaping Up To Be A Big Night For Obama (none / 0)

Best comment of the night. Easily.


by pcjnyc on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:07:13 PM EST
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Re: Tonight Shaping Up To Be A Big Night For Obama (none / 0)

seconded.

p.s. did anyone else think "oh shit" when they heard Bush say that because it was such good writing?

i did.


BHO/HRC 08
by omar little on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:52:10 PM EST
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Re: Tonight Shaping Up To Be A Big Night For Obama (none / 0)

I still say Hillary wins by three points.

Full disclosure: I am an Obama supporter.


Bill Foster would agree, Barack Obama has coat tails.
by Walt Starr on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:35:42 PM EST
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Re: Tonight Shaping Up To Be A Big Night For Obama (none / 0)

it will be a 10-20 point obama win. looking at the exit polls i feel safe saying 12 percent is my personal prediction.


by Leftyy2k4 on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:41:44 PM EST
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Re: Tonight Shaping Up To Be A Big Night For Obama (none / 0)

  You win.


Jim Oberweis
by cilerder86 on Wed Feb 20, 2008 at 12:17:54 AM EST
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Re: Tonight Shaping Up To Be A Big Night For Obama (none / 0)

The leaked Fox exits indicate Obama just slightly edging out Hillary among women and lower income earners.  If that trend is reflected in the actual vote, as it was in Virginia, it is going to be more than a tough night for Hillary, it will be another tough week.


by Shaun Appleby on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:16:10 PM EST

Isn't this (2.00 / 1)

BS to be releasing exit polls BEFORE the polls close?

Talk about influencing the vote.


Washington Woman

Progressive Blue

by kevin22262 on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:17:37 PM EST

Re: Isn't this (2.00 / 1)

As much as I love MYDD, I doubt many Wisconsin voters even know about the exit polls. I think there is a rule were television stations can't report on them until polls close.


by mecarr on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:33:11 PM EST
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Do they have cable TV? (none / 0)

Sat radio? Syndicated talk radio on local stations? Do they have computers where they can view the national news?

This is wrong... No matter where, no matter who, no matter why.


Washington Woman

Progressive Blue

by kevin22262 on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:39:43 PM EST
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Re: Do they have cable TV? (none / 0)

I agree.  And the source was initially Fox.  Still, they aren't reporting head-to-head comparisons of candidate's aggregate vote.


by Shaun Appleby on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:48:45 PM EST
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We sooooo (none / 0)

need to get control of the media for We The People.


Washington Woman

Progressive Blue

by kevin22262 on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:51:15 PM EST
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Re: Isn't this (none / 0)

Not really. Normal people (non-bloggers) will never even see them.


by conspiracy on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:40:34 PM EST
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YES! (2.00 / 1)

As someone who lives on the West Coast, I think leaking or reporting exit poll numbers (other than talking about overall turnout) and who looks to be winning is ethically wrong.

If it keeps just one person from pulling on their coat, postponing dinner and going to vote, the price isn't worth the media moment of getting numbers up first.

Much as I love reading about elections and want news, democracy and GOTV always has to come first.


the third eye does not weep. it knows.
by mijita on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:50:52 PM EST
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Re: Isn't this (none / 0)

they are releasing data on issues and voter demographics...I didn't see any conjecture on WHO they voted for.


by cargocult on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:58:05 PM EST
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Re: Isn't this (none / 0)

Yes! Free speech and more information is a BAD thing!  Let's give the voters LESS information because it's DANGEROUS and let's let the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT tell press organizations what to print!


by Adam B on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:03:53 PM EST
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Re: Tonight Shaping Up To Be A Big Night For Obama (none / 0)

The exits have got to point towards an Obama victory, but they've been overly pro-Obama many times before.  Not counting any chickens until they hatch tonight.


by Nissl on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:19:35 PM EST

CBS Exits (none / 0)

Marc Ambinder has CBS exit polls, which look more favorable for Clinton, but are still mixed:

Info from our trusty pals at CBS News:

this electorate is very white; only four in ten have a "college degree." They're "less affluent" than Dems in other states. The percentage of late deciders is declining: only 27% made up their minds within the last seven days.

-- Issue number one is, of course, the economy, followed by health care... adding the economy and health care brings you to nearly 70% of the electorate.

-- Change trumps experience, 52 to 24.

-- Very few first time voters -- only 17%.

-- 27% of the electorate were independent

-- Clinton was seen as the most unfair attacker;

-- Obama (55%) was seen as the candidate most like to improve relations with the res tof the world.

-- Clinton and Obama are seen as equally qualified to be commander in chief (50% and 48%), while Obama draws 60% or more on the questions of who best can unite the country and beat the Republicans


by rcipw on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:22:30 PM EST

Only one group of exits (none / 0)

The CBS exits are the same as the Fox exits. They are pooled. CBS is just reporting them differently.

The telling number is Obama winning women. All the other numbers just serve to muddy the waters.


by johnnyappleseed on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:29:48 PM EST
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Re: Only one group of exits (none / 0)

I agree that is telling.  Of course we have seen that in other states where young voters turn out it such numbers it also flips women for Obama.

So far...there is not evidence of huge youth turnout  in Madison, but we will know soon.

If there was more evidence of big youth turnout I would be more worried about that women number, but without it I just think they oversampled young voters or something.


by rcipw on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:31:35 PM EST
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Re: Only one group of exits (none / 0)


Madison -- Voting activity was swift and steady on the University of Wisconsin-Madison campus.

Polling places in student areas - at the Memorial Library on State St. and in Holt Commons near the lakeshore dorms - was busier than usual, according to elections officials there.

Stacy Forster - Campus turnout is swift and steady Milwaukee Journal Sentinel 19 Feb 08 3:46 PM


by Shaun Appleby on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:39:00 PM EST
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Re: Only one group of exits (none / 0)

Yes, I quoted from that same article earlier.

"Swift and Steady" usually means....totally normal.

The numbers they use in that article and that Todd also has from later in the day show student turnout at less than 2,000 in the late afternoon.  To match the statewide predicted turnout of 38% they would need 5,000 (per Todd).

In a state where hundreds of thousands are predicted to turn out, 5,000 votes from UW Madison is now that much.


by rcipw on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:41:13 PM EST
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Re: Only one group of exits (none / 0)


The potential for student votes to deeply impact the Wisconsin primary seems to be taking shape in Milwaukee, where City Election Commission Executive Director Sue Edman said turnout has been steadily busy at UW-Milwaukee, Milwaukee School of Engineering, and Marquette University.

The Dane County Clerk's office will not begin collecting data on the participation of the state's largest campus, UW-Madison, until later in the day according to County Clerk Bob Ohlsen.

Milwaukee students turning out in big numbers WisPolitics 19 Feb 08 3:38 PM


by Shaun Appleby on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:57:31 PM EST
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Re: Only one group of exits (none / 0)

yes, my "Milwaukee: Give us more ballots" diary points out how they are running out of ballots in Marquette precincts.


by rcipw on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:01:35 PM EST
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I lied to the Exit poll. (none / 0)




Democratic Candidate, US Senate, Wisconsin 2012
by benmasel on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:44:38 PM EST
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Off with your head! n/t (none / 0)


the third eye does not weep. it knows.
by mijita on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:53:55 PM EST
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Warning: Spoiler Exit Poll Data!! (none / 0)

By extrapolating gender results already out, looks like second wave exit polls are reporting: Obama 55, Clinton 43. Certainly not a blowout on the level of last week. And, of course, could tighten or be reversed, I guess, though I think late voting (think students) might favor Obama.
by jmr1948 on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:22:46 PM EST

Re: Warning: Spoiler Exit Poll Data!! (none / 0)

where do you see this exit poll?


by bayareasg on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:27:08 PM EST
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Big Night? (none / 0)

I'm not really sure about that.  I always tend to think it'll be closer than the polls show.  I thought that Plagiargate could shift a few points to Clinton, so if tonight's lead is large I would be really surprised.


This administration is not sinking. This administration is soaring! If anything, they are rearranging the deck chairs on the Hindenburg!
by venavena on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:23:52 PM EST

Re: Tonight Shaping Up To Be A Big Night For Obama (none / 0)

in my mind this is a TELLING number

Democrats: It costs jobs- 70%, Creates jobs- 17%, No impact 9%

Clinton can be blow out just by this number alone as she is seen as a NAFTA supporter.


by bayareasg on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:26:27 PM EST

I guarantee you that Obama will have NAFTA ads... (none / 0)

up and running in Ohio within the week. HRC is getting clobbered on it and it eats into her early advantage with Blue Collar workers and Union households.


by johnnyappleseed on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:32:56 PM EST
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Naming = Framing. (none / 0)

Ron Paul hung it with the NAFTA HIGHWAY moniker.




Democratic Candidate, US Senate, Wisconsin 2012
by benmasel on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:46:38 PM EST
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Agree Bayarea (none / 0)

Thats a big number. I think that hurts Clinton


by falcon4e on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:28:55 PM EST

Re: Tonight Shaping Up To Be A Big Night For Obama (none / 0)

I'm an Obama supporter, and when I see Clinton folks mentioning exit polls showing a blowout for Obama, I don't believe it.  Expectations management...I'll take a 2% victory by Obama, anything else is gravy.

Clinton can keep beating expectations all she wants, but it won't matter much if she also keeps losing.  A


by snaktime on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:29:10 PM EST

Re: Tonight Shaping Up To Be A Big Night For Obama (none / 0)

right now i agree there is no path to winning by loosing.


by bayareasg on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:31:35 PM EST
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OT (none / 0)

Off topic: Ben and Jerry endorse Obama. Discuss.


by DPW on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:30:40 PM EST

Re: OT (2.00 / 0)

They've eaten the Baracky Road.


by Weirdsmobile on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:54:23 PM EST
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Re: OT (2.00 / 0)

And driving down it in an ObamaMobile.


by Shaun Appleby on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:07:01 PM EST
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I don't think so... (none / 0)

I bet we don't get a call until we see a good 25-30% of the totals in.

Ultimately - I think we're still going to see a 5 pt Obama win.  


by zonk on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:32:00 PM EST

Re: exit polls from right pundit blog (none / 0)

5:53 Update- Early Exit Poll: Clinton 49 Obama 45 Hold onto your Hats! It's gonna be a long night!
This poll doesn't account for evening voters (professionals) who are now getting off work and heading to the polls.
Bad Economy is on Dem. Wisconsin Voters mind.

15% of Dem voters had never voted before. Half think the economy is very bad. More women than men voted Dem.
Dem. voters, or at least voters who voted for a Dem. candidate outnumber Republican voters by LARGE margin. Could this signify Republican cross-over? Probably not as it's been seen in other states without open primaries.

6:45 Update: Obama 57 Clinton 41. One of these polls is going to be wrong! 90% of Dem voters were white.

7:07 - White - 88%, African American - 8%, Latino - 4%. Male, 43%, Female - 57%.

7:15 - Change more important than experience, 52-24%. Hillary is far more "mean," but everyone knows that already. :)

Late into is that Obama is looking stronger.

Clinton carried Seniors by +21, Obama carried Independents by +29


by bayareasg on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:32:06 PM EST

Re: exit polls from right pundit blog (none / 0)

what right pundit blog put this out?


by mecarr on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:40:53 PM EST
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Re: exit polls from right pundit blog (none / 0)

http://www.rightpundits.com/


by bayareasg on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:44:38 PM EST
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Re: exit polls from right pundit blog (none / 0)

New info from rightpundits has Obama up by "as many as 10 to 20."

See here

My guess is they see the same polls everybody else has seen.


by elrod on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:00:24 PM EST
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Does WI Count? (none / 0)

So, does this mean the Wisconsin doesn't count?

Also is there some formual we can use to weight Obama delegates-- maybe an Obama delegate can be worth 3/5ths of a Clinton Delegate.


by Socraticsilence on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:38:07 PM EST

Re: Tonight Shaping Up To Be A Big Night For Obama (none / 0)

WI does not matter...It is the Rudi/Clinton "Firewall" that counts right?

The Jury will disregard any trend here
http://www.pollster.com/08-TX-Dem-Pres-P rimary.php


"If you want to end war and stuff, you gotta sing loud"...Arlo Guthrie
by nogo war on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:39:23 PM EST

Big O supporter (none / 0)

Big O supporter
Dreading 1.5 hours
uhg
by gil on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:40:20 PM EST

Re: Tonight A Big Night For Obama? (none / 0)

This is anecdotal, but it even surprised me.

Up until this point, My big Catholic Union family was for Hillary, My mom, both uncles, my grandma, my fiancees parents... all strong hillary

Then Obama came to Wisconsin, and Hillary didnt

My mom got flipped at the Obama rally
One Uncle flipped on NAFTA, the other thought that plagiarismgate was petty, and flipped.
My in-laws changed at the last minute because Hillary didn't show up, they felt snubbed

Every person I have talked to today who I would have assumed were strong Hillary ended up voting for Obama... which represents nearly 15 people.

Every last one


Wiz in Hussein Wis
by Wiz in Wis on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:43:06 PM EST

I Dunno (none / 0)

Big Night for BO?  As an Obama guy, and as a guy who worked today taking people to the polls and knocking on doors, I can't say that i agree.  Two reasons:

1) I kept hearing from HQ that turnout was lower than expected in key areas.

2) More importantly perhaps...there are 4 documented examples of Right-wing radio (1 station in Madison, 2 in Milwaukee, and 1 in Wausau)  TELLING THEIR LISTENERS to eschew voting for McCain or Huck, and going to vote for HILLARY, whcih is of course in theri best interests, given her status as GOP uniter...and the weaker GE candidate.

Good news for HRC supporters (and Republicans) to be sure...not so much for the rest of us.


by a gunslinger on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:43:26 PM EST

Turnout Predictions Realised? (none / 0)


State Government Accountability Board Elections Division legal counsel Kevin Kennedy said this afternoon he expects voter turnout to meet the predicted 35 percent total.

Kennedy said clerks in Kenosha County told him they have been very busy, and he heard similar results from clerks in Dane and Milwaukee counties.

"I still think we'll have 1.5 million voters when it's all said and done, but I've got nothing to base that on until all the numbers are in," he said.

Turnout projections appear on target WisPolitics 19 Feb 08 5:15PM


by Shaun Appleby on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:43:33 PM EST

Heritage Church ward (none / 0)

Lots of new construction on recent farmland, hence new residents. Plenty of at the polls registrants in my near east side ward too. Older neighborhood, 1/3 students, mostly upper class and grads. In the 2002 Guv race, the RepublicAan finished 4th.




Democratic Candidate, US Senate, Wisconsin 2012
by benmasel on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:43:45 PM EST

WI does not cout its too cold (none / 0)

and they did not win the SUPER BOWL


by bayareasg on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:46:24 PM EST

Shaping Up To Be A Big Night For Obama? (none / 0)

more signs of big turnout:
http://blogs.jsonline.com/allpoliticswat ch/archive/2008/02/19/city-polling-sites -ask-for-more-ballots.aspx

by gil on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:47:39 PM EST

Shaping Up To Be A Big Night For Obama? (none / 0)

Obama wins:
http://blogs.jsonline.com/allpoliticswat ch/archive/2008/02/19/kids-vote-for-obam a-mccain-and-trenton.aspx
by gil on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:48:26 PM EST

Re: CB NEWS 56 / 43 (none / 0)

From CBS NEWs
                HRC     BO
Male (43%)    35%    61%
Female (57%)    49%    51%

If exit polls are accurate you can predict everything you want from this its 56 6o 43.

CBS NEW is giving out the winner.


by bayareasg on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 07:55:59 PM EST

Misunderstanding turnout (none / 0)

If tournout is low exogenously, then it is probably bad news for Obama. But if turn out is low because of bad weather, it could even be GOOD for Obama, because, as in caucuses, he seems to be on the good side of an enthusiasm gap. This is elementary statistics.


better luck next universe
by thenew on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:00:01 PM EST

Re: Tonight Shaping Up To Be A Big Night For Obama (none / 0)

The one thing we can all be sure of- regardless of the results- the media will continue to dance with its 'star'
www.politicalamnesia.blogspot.com
by darlamc on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:01:02 PM EST

Re: Tonight Shaping Up To Be A Big Night For Obama (none / 0)

that 43% is basically what she was polling in most of the polls. That is what I am afraid of ... she may have hit her ceiling in this state and decided it wasn't worth the money/time to fight for the extra few votes.


by gomer on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:01:14 PM EST

Re: Tonight Shaping Up To Be A Big Night For Obama (none / 0)

Wisconsites don't like negative campaigning and they overwhelmingly saw Clinton as the negative one.


by mainelib on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:02:19 PM EST

Re: Tonight Shaping Up To Be A Big Night For Obama (none / 0)

Weather is MISERABLE in Wisconsin today - even by Wisconsin standards. Turnout has to be affected by that. Who wants to stand in line, or canvass, in 3 degrees?


by elrod on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:02:40 PM EST

Re: Tonight Shaping Up To Be A Big Night For Obama (none / 0)

Barack shared another deep insight today:
"The time is now". That should settle it.
Does anyone remember Chance the Gardener?
by DeanOR on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:02:42 PM EST

About Turnout (none / 0)

It sounds like nobody is really sure about the level of turnout. And, even if there were some certainty about the level of turnout, I'm not sure anyone could predict how it would affect the outcome.

If there's low turnout, that could mean the most motivated voters got to the polls -- voters who are the most change-oriented. Most people seem to think Obama voters are more highly motivated on average. That's the root of the Clinton campaign's caucus complaints.

On the other hand, low turnout could mean fickle independents and younger voters didn't show up while the ever-reliable (bored? :-)) elderly did. And conventional wisdom holds that that pattern favors Clinton.


by BBCWatcher on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:03:05 PM EST

Re: Tonight Shaping Up To Be A Big Night For Obama (none / 0)

Am I the only one who thinks the turnout numbers and demographic profile looks for a Clinton win?


by crazymoloch on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:03:14 PM EST

Re: Tonight Shaping Up To Be A Big Night For Obama (none / 0)

since i don't want to plagiarize one of the blogs wrote its so cold that old folks wont go out to vote so HRC looses.


by bayareasg on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:05:51 PM EST
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Re: Tonight Shaping Up To Be A Big Night For Obama (none / 0)

Yes.


by swarty on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:08:15 PM EST
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Re: The only reason she wouldn't win (none / 0)

Every time I try to feel a little sympathetic towards Clinton's campaign, I'm reminded of how her campaign and its supporters never waste an opportunity to insult a category of voters.

C'mon, 'university droid' districts? What exactly is wrong with you people?


by crazymoloch on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:36:29 PM EST
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Re: Nothing. Students enjoy Chappel style jokes (none / 0)

Sheesh! Condescending Jerks for America! It really rallies people.


by crazymoloch on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:49:20 PM EST
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Re: Nothing. Students enjoy Chappel style jokes (none / 0)

Yeah, too bad we can't make Obama voters only count as 3/5ths of a vote huh!


by Socraticsilence on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 09:04:22 PM EST
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WI Doesn't Matter.....HI Doesn't Matter (none / 0)

Yeah!


by Thom on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:17:44 PM EST

A Big Night For Obama? (none / 0)

For what it's worth, This was posted on DK:

WISCONSIN DEMOCRATS - EXIT POLL RESULTS
REPORTABLE BEFORE POLL CLOSING
POLL CLOSE IS 9PM (ET)

-The Wisconsin Democratic Primary electorate looks different compared with the Potomac states that held contests last week.

-Wisconsin Democrats are mostly white. Fewer than one in 10 are African American compared with about a third in the Maryland and Virginia Democratic primaries.

-More than half of Democratic voters in Maryland and Virginia were college graduates. In Wisconsin, four in 10 have a college degree.

-Voters in Wisconsin are also less affluent.

27% of Wisconsin Democrats decided on their candidate within the last week - since last week's primaries.  Most made up their minds before that.

Time of Decision
Wisconsin Democratic Voters
Last Week 27%
Before That 73

The Economy was the most important issue for voters today.  This has been the case throughout the campaign.

Most Important Issue
Wisconsin Democratic Voters
Economy 43%
Health Care 25
War in Iraq 29

In addition, nine in 10 Democratic voters today said the economy was in bad shape.

View of U.S. Economy
Wisconsin Democratic Voters
Good 10%
Bad 90

On the issue of trade, a majority Wisconsin Democratic primary voters said U.S. trade with other countries takes jobs away from their state.

U.S. Trade with Other Countries
Wisconsin Democratic Voters
Creates more jobs 17%
Takes away jobs 70
Has no effect 9

Change was viewed as the most important quality.

Most Important Quality
Wisconsin Democratic Voters
Change 52%
Experience 24
Cares 16
Can Win 7

Most voters today have voted in a primary before. Few were voting for the first time.

First Time Voter
Wisconsin Democratic Voters
YES 17%
NO 83

18% of voters are union members.

Union Voters
Wisconsin Democratic Voters
YES 18%
NO 82

Wisconsin's primary was open today. 27% of voters identified themselves as Independents - about the same number as four years ago.

Party Affiliation
Wisconsin Democratic Voters
Democrats 64%
Republicans 9
Independents 27

In terms of the tone of the campaign, voters today viewed Clinton as more of the attacker than Obama. 54% said she attacked unfairly, while 34% said that about him.

Who Attacked Unfairly
Wisconsin Democratic Voters
Clinton did 54%
Obama did 34

Democratic voters today said Obama was the candidate most likely to improve U.S. relations with the rest of the world.

Most Likely to Improve International Relations
Wisconsin Democratic Voters
Clinton 42%
Obama 55

Most Clinton voters say they would be satisfied if Obama was the nominee.

Satisfied With Obama as Nominee
Among Cinton Voters
Wisconsin Democratic Voters
Yes 57%
No 40

Fewer Obama voters, however, said they would be satisfied if Clinton won the nomination.

Satisfied Clinton as Nominee
Wisconsin Democratic Voters
Yes 46%
No 53

Clinton has a slight edge over Obama as the candidate most qualified to be commander in chief.

Most Qualified to be Commander in Chief
Wisconsin Democratic Voters
Clinton 50%
Obama 48

Obama is seen as the candidate most likely to unite the country.

Most Likely to Unite Country
Wisconsin Democratic Voters
Clinton 35%
Obama 62

And Obama is seen by Wisconsin Democratic primary voters as the candidate most likely to beat the Republican nominee in November.

Most Likely to Beat Republican
Wisconsin Democratic Voters
Clinton 37%
Obama 63

WISCONSIN DEMOCRATS - EXIT POLL RESULTS
REPORTABLE AFTER POLL CLOSING ONLY
POLL CLOSE IS 9PM (ET)

Obama is getting the support of men today...

Men
Wisconsin Democratic Voters
Clinton 35%
Obama 61

...while women are more divided in their support.

Women
Wisconsin Democratic Voters
Clinton 49%
Obama 51

Independents make up 27% of voters today and they supported Obama over Clinton. Among self-identified Democrats, voters are split.

Independents
Wisconsin Democratic Voters
Clinton 34%
Obama 63

College graduates went strongly for Obama.

College Degree
Wisconsin Democratic Voters
Clinton 37%
Obama 61

While voters without a college education were more divided in their support.

No College Degree
Wisconsin Democratic Voters
Clinton 48%
Obama 50

Income had an impact too. Clinton and Obama are splitting those earning less than $50K
But those earning more are backing Obama.

Less than $50K
Wisconsin Democratic Voters
Clinton 49%
Obama 51

$50K or more
Wisconsin Democratic Voters
Clinton 39%
Obama 59

In addition, Obama continues to win the support of young voters, while Clinton wins the support of those over age 60.

Those voters who made up their minds since last week's Potomac primaries were divided in their vote.

Late Deciders
Wisconsin Democratic Voters
Clinton 42%
Obama 58

Clinton had the edge with union voters.

Union Voters
Wisconsin Democratic Voters
Clinton 50%
Obama 49

Those who viewed the economy as the most important issue backed xxxx today.

Economy is Most Important
Wisconsin Democratic Voters
Clinton 43%
Obama 55

Those who said change was the most important quality in their vote supported Obama today.  

Change is Most Important
Wisconsin Democratic Voters
Clinton 20%
Obama 77


Bill Foster would agree, Barack Obama has coat tails.
by Walt Starr on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:18:24 PM EST

Re: A Big Night For Obama? (none / 0)

If those exits are true, it will be a blow out for Obama.  He won every demographic group.


by rcipw on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:23:01 PM EST
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Re: A Big Night For Obama? (none / 0)

If true, winning men by 26% and women by 2% makes this about a 57 - 43 outcome.


Bill Foster would agree, Barack Obama has coat tails.
by Walt Starr on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:29:25 PM EST
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Re: A Big Night For Obama? (none / 0)

That is right.

The full CBS exits are up now, I posted the link on Jerome's WI thread.


by rcipw on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:32:06 PM EST
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Re: A Big Night For Obama? (none / 0)

yeah, if these are accurate, it's going to be a big win for obama.  wow.


by island empire on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:33:37 PM EST
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damn!!! (none / 0)

that's all


by highgrade on Tue Feb 19, 2008 at 08:55:17 PM EST


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