Criticism of Chelsea Clinton.

Yesterday I praised Chelsea Clinton here as possibly among the "very promising young women out there now working their way through the ranks," but then I read about an outrageous recent remark she has made.
A student asked Chelsea Clinton last Monday at the University of Wisconsin-Madison "Has your mother shown any remorse for the fact that her vote cost Iraqis a million of their lives?"
To which Chelsea Clinton replied "She cast a vote based on the best available evidence. Perhaps you had clairvoyance then, and that's extraordinary."
Granted the question was antagonistic, but that does not excuse Chelsea's arrogance. Does Chelsea realize that her answer is identical to the response Dubya gives when his decision to invade Iraq is questioned? Does Chelsea know that her mother didn't even bother to read that National Intelligence Estimate before sending 4,000 plus soldiers to their deaths with her vote?
As a U.S. serviceman that has given 12 years of his life to the country that he loves, I am mortified and offended by Chelsea Clinton's arrogant, unapologetic, response, and am drawn away from Senator Clinton for another reason all together.
What has Chelsea Clinton been doing these five years that the war her mother authorized has raged? She has been working for a hedge fund. Chelsea Clinton's occupation since she turned 22 isn't disconcerting, but it leaves a huge opening for McCain to attack Senator Clinton. Senator McCain's son, like Senator Webb's and Senator Biden's, has served his country in Iraq.
If you think that won't get thrown around in the campaign for the vote in November, then you are seriously deluded.
Today I have changed my position again; unless Senator Clinton apologizes for her Iraq War authorization vote (which has killed several coworkers from my past), then I will have great difficulty voting for her, and probably wont.


Poll
Should Senator Clinton apologize for voting to authorize the Iraq War.
Yes
No
Hell no, I want her to invade Iran, just like McCain would.
Yes, and if she doesn't I'm not voting for her.

Votes: 32
Results : Vote Link : Polls

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Chelsea's job isn't relevant (none / 0)

because Clinton will not get the nomination.  Furthermore, I don't think Americans may be all that taken with the idea that pretty young women have a duty to be donning combat boots.  Only a goofy liberal would even imagine this to be an issue.


by lombard on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 02:51:40 PM EST

Re: Chelsea's job isn't relevant (2.00 / 1)

Who said Clinton will not get the nomination?


by HillaryKnight08 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 02:56:03 PM EST
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Too much against her at this point (none / 0)


by lombard on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 03:00:11 PM EST
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Re: Too much against her at this point (2.00 / 1)

Yeah, but what an amazing victory it would be over the media it would be. I still believe she can do it.


by HillaryKnight08 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 03:04:19 PM EST
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I am not optimistic (none / 0)

The Obama train is loaded with those who cannot help themselves from being caught up in the hysteria of the moment.  Clinton is good but she's not good enough to overcome that within less than 30 days.

This wave will crest but not in time for her.


by lombard on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 03:47:06 PM EST
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Re: Chelsea's job isn't relevant (none / 0)

the american people ;)


"Katie, i'd like to use one of my lifelines, i'd like to phone a friend." "governor Palin"
by Doug Tuttle on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 06:10:31 PM EST
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I personally know (1.20 / 5)

Many pretty young women who are donning combat boots. Why is Chelsea Clinton not donning them, especially since her mother initially believed in the War, and has not apologized for authorizing it?


"Please. How stupid do I look to you? World Domination. I'll leave that to the religious nuts or the Republicans, thank you." The Monarch (Evil Villain)
by fetboy on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 02:56:39 PM EST
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Try to restrain your most stupid impulses (none / 0)


by lombard on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 04:29:36 PM EST
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Re: I personally know (none / 0)

OK this is an example of idiots on this board who dont have a clue what a troll rating is. Fetboy hasn't attacked any of the other posters here by name. He hasn't attacked Chelsea in vulgar terms. he is trying to make a point. You do not troll rate him just because he disagrees with you. And these Hillary fans have the audacity to get outraged by the hypervigilance on Dkos towards dissenting viewpoints. You guys are such hypocrites.


by Pravin on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 05:25:19 PM EST
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Arrogance but also a lie. (1.50 / 2)

Her mother didn't based her decision on the best available evidence. She didn't even read the evidence. She trusted the Bush administration's assertions. That's far from the best available evidence. It's nice to know that I'm a psychic though since I knew it was all bullshit. That'll come in handy.

Well I might not be a psychic come to think of it since I based my decision on what folks who weren't in the Bush administration were saying. That was the best available evidence.

This family and the truth aren't good friends.


by illlaw1 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 02:56:35 PM EST

Re: Criticism of Chelsea Clinton. (2.00 / 1)

Chelsea is not running for president.  Hillary is.

What happened with Iraq was a result of Bush not listening to the Senate when they asked for diplomacy first.


The Kentucky Democrat
by kydem on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 03:02:56 PM EST

It was a result of Senators voting to authorize it (2.00 / 1)

Senator Clinton voted to authorized the invasion, and has not regretted her vote since.
Would she stand up against pressure to invade Iran?
"Please. How stupid do I look to you? World Domination. I'll leave that to the religious nuts or the Republicans, thank you." The Monarch (Evil Villain)
by fetboy on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 03:06:40 PM EST
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It was a result of... (2.00 / 2)

this entire country over-reacting to 9/11.


by JimR on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 04:08:36 PM EST
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Re: It was a result of... (none / 0)

As I remember things, polls at that time indicated that most wanted the war, including Chris Matthews and his cousins in the media. If you think back, anyone who opposed the war was called "unpatriotic" and some like the Dixie chicks had their career almost ruined. Hindsight is easy. Obama claims good judgment because he opposed the war, however, he has not always exercised good judgment in everything he does.


by Actright on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 10:59:21 PM EST
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And less than 2 years later! (none / 0)

Obama was the key note speaker at the Democratic convention, and went on to win his senate seat by more than 40 points.


"Please. How stupid do I look to you? World Domination. I'll leave that to the religious nuts or the Republicans, thank you." The Monarch (Evil Villain)
by fetboy on Mon Feb 18, 2008 at 01:53:46 AM EST
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Re: Criticism of Chelsea Clinton. (none / 0)

Actually the senate authorized Bush to ignore the United Nations when they opposed the Levin Ammendment.


by greenboy on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 06:55:24 PM EST
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Re: Criticism of Chelsea Clinton. (1.33 / 3)

Chelsea Clinton is now fair game for criticism. She did it to herself by putting herself out as a surrogate for her mother's campaign.

It doesn't mean, however, that the electorate will be receptive to such criticism, only that she is fair game to criticize.


Bill Foster would agree, Barack Obama has coat tails.
by Walt Starr on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 03:06:07 PM EST

Re: Criticism of Chelsea Clinton. (2.00 / 2)

Why then, after all this time is Michelle Obama still not fair game for criticism?


by HillaryKnight08 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 03:07:21 PM EST
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Re: Criticism of Chelsea Clinton. (2.00 / 1)

People criticize her...


by illlaw1 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 03:15:43 PM EST
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Re: Criticism of Chelsea Clinton. (none / 0)

She is fair game, and has been roundly criticized.


Bill Foster would agree, Barack Obama has coat tails.
by Walt Starr on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 04:30:10 PM EST
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Obama Did Not Oppose the War (2.00 / 3)

Once in the Senate, his fiery speech was retired.  Once in the Senate, he voted time and again to fund a war he supposedly opposed.  Once in the Senate, Obama said he did not know how he would have voted had he actually been in the Senate.  Once in the Senate, Obama had the opportunity to vocally call for an end to the war, and did not.  He could have taken to the floor of the Senate during all those votes on funding, and decried the war.  He did not.  His silence reminds me of all those "present" votes.  And where was he during the vote on Iran, for which he now has the audacity to criticize Clinton?

Do you want a president who stands up for his beliefs, even when it's difficult and challenging?  Or do you want a president who goes missing when it's decision time?

Hillary's vote on Iraq reflected the sentiment of her constiuents in NY, where most of the 9/11 victims lived.  Had Obama been in her shoes, do you really think he would have stood up in opposition?  I don't believe so.


by CalGirl on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 03:07:50 PM EST

Re: Obama Did Not Oppose the War (2.00 / 1)

Yes and I think that a person who talked formerly about pushing the wrong button (5 times in fact) should hardly be talking about being right on day one.


by HillaryKnight08 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 03:09:12 PM EST
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Bull shit (2.00 / 1)

Obama spoke out against the War from the onset. He voted for every withdraw time table bill, and voted to fund troops. You don't cut off funding to troops while they are in harms way.


"Please. How stupid do I look to you? World Domination. I'll leave that to the religious nuts or the Republicans, thank you." The Monarch (Evil Villain)
by fetboy on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 03:11:26 PM EST
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Re: Bull shit (2.00 / 2)

Where WAS he during the Iran vote, do you know?  How can you criticize someone else's vote on an important subject when you can't even show up?  In fact, showing up seems to be an issue for Obama.  Don't be surprised if McCain points this out sooner than later.


by CalGirl on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 03:14:58 PM EST
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I will refer to this... (none / 0)

http://thinkonthesethings.wordpress.com/ 2007/10/11/did-obama-skip-the-iran-vote/


"Please. How stupid do I look to you? World Domination. I'll leave that to the religious nuts or the Republicans, thank you." The Monarch (Evil Villain)
by fetboy on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 03:18:56 PM EST
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Re: Bull shit (none / 0)

From what I read Reid pulled the K-L bill from the calendar so BHO didn't even know it would be voted on and wasn't around and then Reid put it back on with little warning.


by illlaw1 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 03:19:36 PM EST
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Re: Bull shit (2.00 / 1)

Then how is it that all the other senators who were also running for president managed to get there? they were all told...are you saying everyone was told but Obama?


by americanincanada on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 04:12:34 PM EST
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Re: Bull shit (none / 0)

No. I didn't say any such thing. Who knows. Though I knew the Bush administration was lying about Iraq I'm not a psychic.

However you're incorrect. McCain was also out campaigning and didn't make it.


by illlaw1 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 04:40:00 PM EST
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Re: Bull shit (2.00 / 1)

Hillary has done far more to end the war in Iraq than Obama has. If Obama was really against the war, then where was the legislation formed to help end it by him?


by HillaryKnight08 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 03:17:01 PM EST
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Re: Bull shit (2.00 / 1)

You mean like Senate bill 433?


by illlaw1 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 03:22:30 PM EST
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Re: Bull shit (2.00 / 1)

If that is the Bill she was talking about at the debate.


by HillaryKnight08 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 03:39:14 PM EST
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Re: Bull shit (none / 0)

Is it?


by illlaw1 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 03:42:38 PM EST
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Re: Bull shit (none / 0)

What's the point of ending the war now? The damage has already been done and pulling out impulsively could make things far worse. The time to oppose the war was before it began and that's why Obama is winning.  


by greenboy on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 06:59:05 PM EST
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Re: Bull shit (2.00 / 1)

Please provide me with a link to a speech or media appearance where Obama spoke out against the war in 2004, 2005 0r 2006,


by MOBlue on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 03:40:15 PM EST
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Re: Bull shit (none / 0)

His DNC speech in 2004 references it from what I recall.


by illlaw1 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 03:50:09 PM EST
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No it doesn't (none / 0)

and he wouldn't have gone there when the nominee was someone who had voted for the war.

In fact, it was at the DNC 2004 that he told the media he didn't know which way he would have voted.


by linc on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 04:38:12 PM EST
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Re: No it doesn't (none / 0)

Yeah so he didn't diss Kerry.


by illlaw1 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 04:41:23 PM EST
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Re: No it doesn't (none / 0)

Oh and what do you mean he doesn't? He talks about patriots opposing the war and that the government has to tell the truth about why you go to war.


by illlaw1 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 04:43:11 PM EST
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Re: Bull shit (none / 0)

Here's a speech from 2005 in front of the Chicago Council on Foreign Relations.


by illlaw1 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 04:27:18 PM EST
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Re: Bull shit (none / 0)

Here's a speech in 2006 at the Chicago Council of Global Affairs.


by illlaw1 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 04:28:54 PM EST
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Re: Bull shit (none / 0)

Who cares whether Obama opposed or supported the war in 2004, 2005, or 2006.  By that point there were no good solutions; only bad solutions and worse solutions. The time to oppose the war was before it began.  


by greenboy on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 07:01:32 PM EST
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Re: Bull shit (none / 0)

That logic is unfortunately erroneous. If something is bad, supporting it is bad at any point in time is wrong. Better is it to discourage something when it is figured out to be bad.


by HillaryKnight08 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 07:07:27 PM EST
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Re: Bull shit (none / 0)

No, it was the decision to invade in the first place that was bad.  Once the country had been indvaded and the government overthrown, the U.S. had no choice but to stay because the alternative would be to leave the country in chaos.


by greenboy on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 08:06:56 PM EST
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One mention in one state senate speech. (2.00 / 1)

He wasn't that much against it.


by JimR on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 04:10:56 PM EST
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Re: One mention in one state senate speech. (none / 0)

See above


by illlaw1 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 04:29:07 PM EST
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Re: Obama Did Not Oppose the War (2.00 / 1)

Didn't he introduce a bill to withdraw the troops? You seem to be conflating voting for an appropriations bill which would have all sorts of necessary things in it with a vote for war.


by illlaw1 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 03:16:37 PM EST
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Re: Obama Did Not Oppose the War (2.00 / 2)

I think that about everyone in the Senate has.


by HillaryKnight08 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 03:17:44 PM EST
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Re: Obama Did Not Oppose the War (2.00 / 1)

Well that's about all you can expect then I supposed. Voting against an appropriations bill, many if not all of which would have included necessary items for Afghanistan and the military in general, would have been a good way to marginalize yourself but not a good way to end a war.


by illlaw1 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 03:21:12 PM EST
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Re: Criticism of Chelsea Clinton. (2.00 / 3)

Well, Hillary's office seemed to know that there was a vote on Iran, and she showed up for it.  Frankly, it just seems lame to say you did not know about the vote.  But then again, organizational skills are not his strong suit, we've been told.


by CalGirl on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 03:29:13 PM EST

Re: Criticism of Chelsea Clinton. (none / 0)

Too bad she screwed up the vote! Organized but wrong isn't a selling point.


by illlaw1 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 03:36:00 PM EST
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Chelsea is stating something... (none / 0)

that many people believe.  You should also note, fetboy, that a majority of the American people, including many of the people who are now attacking her for her vote, ALSO SUPPORTED THE WAR!  Hillary voted based on the available intelligence at the time.  A majority of Democrats in the Senate voted for the resolution.  Hillary along with the rest of the American people was misled by the Bush Administration.  She should not be rebuked for this vote.

Also, I firmly believe that had Obama been in the Senate at the time of the vote, he would have voted for the resolution, too.


by unabashed dem on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 03:48:52 PM EST

Re: Chelsea is stating something... (none / 0)

You mean you believe that HRC based her decision on the best available information?


by illlaw1 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 03:51:02 PM EST
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Senator was not an average citizen (none / 0)

When she voted from the Senate to authorize the Iraq invasion.
True, Clinton, like Edwards, was faced with too much popular pressure to go along with the Republicans in their march towards war, but Edwards has long since regretted his vote.
The question is, will Clinton cave again against poll pressure to act nasty against a foreign state?
With Obama you know he won't cave, because he is completely against the mind set that got us into the war in the first place.
"Please. How stupid do I look to you? World Domination. I'll leave that to the religious nuts or the Republicans, thank you." The Monarch (Evil Villain)
by fetboy on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 04:03:25 PM EST
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Re: Criticism of Chelsea Clinton. (none / 0)

My point is....Obama could have put his highly effective oratory skills to the highest use by making anti-war speeches in the Senate, once he got there.  What good is the art of rhetoric if a politician does not use them when it's most important?  He had a chance to lead.  He did not.


by CalGirl on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 04:03:38 PM EST

Re: Criticism of Chelsea Clinton. (none / 0)

What good is saying you have good judgment and then voting for war based on the assertions of the Bush administration. I think you believe a Jr. senator has a lot more power than he or she really has.


by illlaw1 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 04:22:35 PM EST
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Re: Criticism of Chelsea Clinton. (none / 0)

She had far more information available to her than the general public. She didn't look at any of it. She just listened to the propaganda.


by illlaw1 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 04:32:09 PM EST

Re: Criticism of Chelsea Clinton. (none / 0)

Riot inciting? Comedy. In a twisted way I hope HRC gets the nomination so you can see what you have wrought.


by illlaw1 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 04:33:22 PM EST

Re: Criticism of Chelsea Clinton. (none / 0)

the questioner told her her mom killed a million people in the question.

in this circumstance, her answer was fine. leave Chelsea alone!!!


allprogressives.com
by Scan on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 04:55:35 PM EST

Re: Criticism of Chelsea Clinton. (none / 0)

Yeah lies and dissing people against the war are OK if someone is a meanie. If she can't handle it then she shouldn't be out there.


by illlaw1 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 05:03:19 PM EST
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Re: Criticism of Chelsea Clinton. (none / 0)

Comedy! Thanks for the levity. Dead soldiers and lying politicians is a bit depressing.


by illlaw1 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 05:11:42 PM EST

Re: Criticism of Chelsea Clinton. (none / 0)

Fine. If you want to paint Hillary as a "murderer," you are entitled to do so (I don't believe she is). However, then you would have to paint Obama as the bystander who sat there and watched as the horrible crime took place. Either way, he doesn't win.


by HillaryKnight08 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 06:25:06 PM EST
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As far as Senate records on Iraq go (none / 0)

neither Clinton nor Obama have much to be proud of.  In a position where a real leader could have made a difference by eloquently persuading fellow Democrats to make a stand and curtail the funding and bring the troops home, both of them capitulated like most other Democrats.  Unfortunately, any Democrats who had the courage to face down the Bush White House, were quickly marginalized by the media, leaving us with the sad choices we have today.


by pascal1947 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 06:36:42 PM EST

No one is claiming Clinton is a Murderer! (none / 0)

But for Chelsea Clinton to cast off her mother's lack of remorse in regards to the travesty that has unfolded in Iraq as acceptable because her mother isn't clairvoyance is mortifying and insulting.
More 4,000 of America's best and brightest have died due to the fact that Hillary Clinton isn't clairvoyant.
Does that make Hillary Clinton guilty of those more than 4,000 deaths?
Of course not, but she is partially responsible for the decision that killed them.
And I will have great difficulty voting for her if she doesn't show remorse for the consequences of that vote that she gave.
But I probably will vote for her, if she wins the nomination, and I think she might lose my state to McCain.
But trust me, Chelsea Clinton's occupation for the past 5 years is going to kicked around quite a lot, if it is Clinton vs McCain in the general election.
"Please. How stupid do I look to you? World Domination. I'll leave that to the religious nuts or the Republicans, thank you." The Monarch (Evil Villain)
by fetboy on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 06:47:14 PM EST

Re: No one is claiming Clinton is a Murderer! (none / 0)

<Does Chelsea know that her mother didn't even bother to read that National Intelligence Estimate before sending 4,000 plus soldiers to their deaths with her vote?>

And that is from your diary.


by HillaryKnight08 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 06:51:06 PM EST
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Yeah I put that in my diary. (none / 0)

It is common sentiment, that won't claim as having originated from me. And that line does not accuse Hillary Clinton of Murder.
Clinton is partially responsible for sending more than servicemen to their deaths, but I believe we all agree on that fact.
Imagine what would have happened had Clinton, the New York Senator, come out initially against the authorization to invade Iraq (a nation that has absolutely nothing to do with 9/11).
Had Hillary Clinton been against the war from the get go, perhaps another series of events would have unfolded.
A President can ill afford to be so horribly wrong on day one, and the neo-con mind set needs to be put to rest for good.
A war with Iran would be an even greater travesty than Iraq has been.
"Please. How stupid do I look to you? World Domination. I'll leave that to the religious nuts or the Republicans, thank you." The Monarch (Evil Villain)
by fetboy on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 07:01:44 PM EST
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Correct; Yeah I put that in my diary. (none / 0)

It is a common sentiment, that I won't claim as having originated from me. And that line does not accuse Hillary Clinton of Murder.
Clinton is partially responsible for sending more than 4,000 servicemen to their deaths, but I believe we all agree on that fact.
Imagine what would have happened had Clinton, the New York Senator, come out initially against the authorization to invade Iraq (a nation that has absolutely nothing to do with 9/11).
Had Hillary Clinton been against the war from the get go, perhaps another series of events would have unfolded.
A President can ill afford to be so horribly wrong on day one, and the neo-con mind set needs to be put to rest for good.
A war with Iran would be an even greater travesty than Iraq has been.

I wish I could edit my comments here.


"Please. How stupid do I look to you? World Domination. I'll leave that to the religious nuts or the Republicans, thank you." The Monarch (Evil Villain)
by fetboy on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 07:05:15 PM EST
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Re: Yeah I put that in my diary. (none / 0)

I would like to tell you a similar thing: imagine if those 80% of Americans had come to oppose the war.


by HillaryKnight08 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 07:05:36 PM EST
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Re: Yeah I put that in my diary. (none / 0)

The masses need good leadership.
Hillary Clinton didn't provide in it the months after 9/11, few did, but Obama was one of the few that did (but unfortunately he wasn't in the Senate at that time).
"Please. How stupid do I look to you? World Domination. I'll leave that to the religious nuts or the Republicans, thank you." The Monarch (Evil Villain)
by fetboy on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 07:10:22 PM EST
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Re: Yeah I put that in my diary. (none / 0)

Leadership requires actions that correspond with words. Leaders NEED to take action. Otherwise, a leader becomes like a peer who when sees his fellow peer getting beat up by a bully, says "Stop!" but does nothing to actually stop the bully.


by HillaryKnight08 on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 07:15:51 PM EST
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Re: Criticism of Chelsea Clinton. (none / 0)

I don't see anything wrong with what Chelsea said.  Politics is not a tea party.  She's allowed to respond to an Obama plant in a strong manner - in fact, I'm impressed that she did.  And it's incredibly easy to take a comment out of context and vilify it.  Chelsea Clinton is not running - her mother is.  

As for Hillary apologizing for her Iraq War vote, check this out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjUebX01p NY

Pat Buchanan (against the Iraq War from the beginning) actually has the right idea (listen until the end).


by Larissa on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 07:05:09 PM EST

Re: Criticism of Chelsea Clinton. (none / 0)

Chelsea Clinton is entitled to say whatever she wants, it's a free country. And I am entitled to be mortified and insulted by what she says.


"Please. How stupid do I look to you? World Domination. I'll leave that to the religious nuts or the Republicans, thank you." The Monarch (Evil Villain)
by fetboy on Sun Feb 17, 2008 at 07:07:24 PM EST
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