MN-Sen: Franken Camp Says He's Ahead By 22 Votes

According to the Minneapolis Star Tribune, as of this posting, with 96% of precincts counted, Norm Coleman is currently leading Al Franken by 295 votes, a net gain for the incumbent of 80 since the recount began. This count is obscured, however, by the fact that the Coleman campaign has challenged 3,094 Franken votes and Franken has challenged 2,428 Coleman votes. So, what's the real tally? For the first time since the recount began, the Franken campaign now believes it's ahead.

From TPM:

In a briefing going on right now with reporters, Al Franken's lead recount lawyer Marc Elias made a stunning announcement: According to the campaign's methodology of tracking the recount results, they believe Al Franken now leads Norm Coleman by a margin of 22 votes.

This would be the first time that Franken has claimed a lead in this drawn-out process, and was clearly made possible by the discovery yesterday of ballots in the suburban St. Paul town of Maplewood, which gave him a net gain of 37 votes.

As I wrote yesterday, the Franken campaign has been releasing its own estimated tally according to its assessment of how likely certain challenged ballots are to be upheld. If accurate, Franken is in very good shape with just 3 days, 5 counties and 138,000 ballots left in the recount.

It's telling both that the Coleman camp has challenged 173 more ballots than Franken has AND that they are not having conference calls of their own to set the record straight on what they consider to be the real recount tally. In the coming days, expect the Franken campaign to withdraw at least 633 of their challenges; it will be interesting to see how many Coleman withdraws.



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Re: MN-Sen: Franken Camp Says He's Ahead By 22 Vot (none / 0)

I hope that he's proven right in the end, but I've stopped paying attention to the vote tallies - as you say, there's just too many uncertainties.


by auronrenouille on Wed Dec 03, 2008 at 02:44:28 PM EST

nailbiterrr (none / 0)


vote blue in 2008
by sepulvedaj3 on Wed Dec 03, 2008 at 02:48:21 PM EST

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Well, the margin between the difference reported by the paper and the challenges has remained pretty consistent, at 122 right now. It's not that assuring that this isn't lower. That said, challenges are not black and white, so this means next to little.


by Jerome Armstrong on Wed Dec 03, 2008 at 03:00:30 PM EST

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Franken needs to challenge more of Chicklet-Teeth's ballots.

If we learned anything in 2000, it's that perception counts.


by Bush Bites on Wed Dec 03, 2008 at 03:48:00 PM EST

Re: MN-Sen: Franken Camp Says He's Ahead (none / 0)

Except what worked in Florida is unlikely to work in Minnesota. Minnesota has a secretary of state more invested in the integrity of the process than the outcome. Whatever happens I expect it to be transparent and fair.


by wengler on Wed Dec 03, 2008 at 04:29:01 PM EST
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Re: MN-Sen: Franken Camp Says He's Ahead (none / 0)


Has anyone done a poll to see who, between the two, Minnesota voters want to see win in the end?

Gore lost 5% of the national electorate to Bush on the day after Election Day of 2000.  And the split stayed about 55/44 in favor of Bush until the 'verdict' that went 5-4.


by killjoy on Wed Dec 03, 2008 at 04:28:53 PM EST

Re: MN-Sen: Franken Camp Says He's Ahead (none / 0)

The last six or so polls had franken up within the MoE.  At this point it does not matter what people want.  The voting is done.


Howard Dean is my go-to guy
by lojasmo on Wed Dec 03, 2008 at 04:43:52 PM EST
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Those are preelection polls.  And what the general bias or desire in Minnesota is probably can affect the recount process in subtle ways so that the candidate who 55% or 60% want to see win will end up with the ballot count his way.
by killjoy on Wed Dec 03, 2008 at 05:28:39 PM EST
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Re: MN-Sen: Franken Camp Says He's Ahead (none / 0)

No polling since the election.


Howard Dean is my go-to guy
by lojasmo on Wed Dec 03, 2008 at 06:53:22 PM EST
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Franken will win (none / 0)

Nate Silver says so.  By 27 votes.  The spirits must obey!


by GreginFL on Wed Dec 03, 2008 at 06:17:05 PM EST

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Looks like he lost about 44 net votes today though to accidental over-counting of ballots in November.

I guess it's going to come down to those rejected absentee ballots, which should favor him as Franken did better in early voting.


by Skaje on Wed Dec 03, 2008 at 08:32:12 PM EST


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